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Likely the best price currently in Australia for this camera, if you need something simple with good IQ.
Canon M50KIS M50 Mirrorless Camera 15-45mm Lens Kit $678.40 + Delivery (Free C&C) @ The Good Guys eBay
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Correct, purchase limited to 3 only, which is still one more than you have available hands to take photographs ;)
Fantastic camera. Very happy with mine. My 7d never gets used anymore because the M50 does everything so well..Much better than the M3 and M1 that I previously owned.
Mind elaborating aspects where the M50 is better than the M3? Thanks
Sure. Here are the ones I consider important:
1.built in EVF (and it is a good EVF)
2. Autofocus is brilliant. In a different league to the slow AF of the M3. You can actUally rely on it tracking moving subjects when in servo AF.
3. The UI, especially the way the screen doubles as a trackpad when looking through the EVF.Only disadvantage is it has one less dial than the M3. (And i guess the lack of infrared remote)
Thankfully it still has a mic input.
@sayako: Unfortunately… thanks to AUD/USD rates that have been going down for the last few years, raising prices in Oz…
I've got the M50 aswell very happy with it.
How's this compared to the OM-D one on offer atm?
Sightly bigger sensor means better low light performance, higher megapixel count (but if you're only looking at a screen, then anything over 16MP is good enough really) and fully articulating screen are the main talking points. I find Canon colours to be the most pleasing to my eye, following closely by Olympus and Fuji, so if you're only planning on shooting jpeg then either will give you great out of camera shots.
Both have great single point autofocus performance and both are 4k 30/25. In terms of real performance, they're both pretty similar, but it depends on which ecosystem of lenses and accessories you want to get locked into.
The benefit of the OM-D (and micro 4/3) is the sheer choice of lenses, from small and lightweight up to semi-pro. That and the in body image stabilisation in Olympus bodies is still industry leading.
In short - you can't go wrong with either one. I prefer MFT because I have a bunch of lenses and I love the compact nature of my setup even with an entire set of lenses for travel
They are pretty comparable. Both are the entry level model for the respective companies. The Canon M50 has the advantage of a larger sensor so better light collection, but Olympus has better stabilisation so you can have longer exposure to partially compensate. The M50 has a pretty bad battery life (235 shots vs 330) but that's easily mitigated.
The focal length on this kit lens however is likely to be more suitable if you don't plan on buying another lens compared to the 45-150mm on the Olympus $599 one.
Therefore if you aren't planning to invest more money into lenses, get this one for sure. The advantage of the Olympus and the micro four thirds system is that their lenses are plentiful and cheaper. From what I can tell the list of native ef-m mount lenses are comparatively limited.
Change a few settings from default to get anywhere from 800 to 600 shots on a single charge.
Taken from this forum post
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61006957
On my M5 I usually have ECO mode on and previews off, without flash, using EF-M or EF type lenses. Screen brightness set to default using Canon brand batteries.I routinely get 800+ shots out of a full battery and that's with using playback regularly.
With previews on and non-ECO mode, I get well over 600 shots.
Wow, although I admit, this sound overly optimistic, based on other opinions.
I was expecting ECO mode to increase battery life by approx. 50% (to about ~350 shots).
Anyone to confirm these numbers in practice?@User102430: I've taken just over 400 shots in Eco mode and the battery indicator wasn't blinking red but under half.
This was a few months back so can't remember exact details but was a marked improvement from default settings.
Thank you for the advice ozbargainers 😊
Check this out, great comparison of M50 with similar cameras: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWIhYzr4qkg
Unless you're trying to freeze motion at night you'll find the Olympus has substantially better low-light image quality. Those 5+ stops of IBIS means being able to shoot at ISO 400 on the Oly compared to ISO 12800 on the M50.
A camera without on-sensor image stabilisation is like a mobile phone without a touch screen. It can still make calls (take photos) but it's significantly hamstrung compared to contemporary hardware.
Not quite - the image quality vs stabilisation that allow longer exposure time without having blurred photos are two completely separate things.
Not sure what Olympus are we comparing here, but just check it out:
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen…Canon's 24MP sensor has a clear advantage over Olympus 16MP ones.
When it comes to image stabilisation, let's not forget the kit here also offers one, built into the lens.
There may be 1-1.5 stop difference in favour of IBIS, but this is negligible in practice, as my 20 years of experience shows…
(also quite funny how these days no one, even professional portals like DPreview complain about lack of IBIS, yet 10 years ago no one cared…)Not quite - the image quality vs stabilisation that allow longer exposure time without having blurred photos are two completely separate things.
I'm sorry but this is fundamentally incorrect. The term 'a stop' has meaning. It's a measurement of light.
One stop of stabilisation equates exactly to 1 stop of sensor amplification (ISO). So when it comes to image quality they are one and the same, not "completely separate things" as you claim.
In low light conditions 1 stop of stabilisation means not having to increase ISO by 1 stop. A similarly exposed night photo of the clock tower requiring ISO 6400 to get a sharp image with the M50 can be taken at ISO 400 with the Olympus camera by utilising 5 stops of IBIS instead. The M50 has barely 4 stops of dynamic range at ISO 6400. The Olympus image quality will be vastly superior by comparison.
This is not an exotic example! Travel photographers for instance will be faced with such circumstances constantly.
When it comes to image stabilisation, let's not forget the kit here also offers one, built into the lens.
Well first of all kit lenses are good-light optics. No one uses kit lenses at night. Secondly, lens I.S. only counteracts movement on 3 axis. IBIS does all 5. Each axis is equally susceptible to camera shake.
Thirdly, the EF-M mount barely has any lenses at all let alone a stabilised prime. I stand to be corrected though. Feel free to list the native stabilised primes available for the system that you'll be shooting at night.
Not sure what Olympus are we comparing here, but just check it out:
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen…If anything this comparison illustrates my point. ISO 3200 is only 4 stops above base ISO. The Oly could've take it hand-held using any lens without needing to budge from ISO 200. The M50 isn't taking that shot at base ISO except when mounted on a very stable tripod.
Well, following your argument and logic, you could say that use of tripod gives you even higher advantage as you can take 30 minutes shots at ISO100… that doesn't add up.
Image quality done on professional sites/forums is ALWAYS analysed regardless of the lens and/or built-in stabilisation.
@User102430: No my premise was predicated on a common situational example of travel photography without a tripod. A like-for-like comparison in real-world everyday shooting conditions.
Which one is better for video recording? Or can anyone recommend a camera for outdoor videos with good AF and IS? Thanks
Go with the E-M10iii if you want 4k video with reasonable AF and IS.
If you're only planning 1080p, then the Dual pixel AF of the M50 (which only works in 1080 - not in 4k) makes it pretty compelling, but again, the IS of the Olympus is still an advantage for it
Standard Canon kit lens has stabilisation too…
Check out this review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWIhYzr4qkg
Yes of course sorry - it's been a while since I've used Canon glass, I keep forgetting about lens based IS!
Does anyone else have problems with TGG ebay and not being able to C&C? I am on the Gold coast and it says that everything is out of stock for all of my local stores.. this seems to happen every time TGG have an ebay sale and I am forced to pay the delivery charge if I want to buy it through ebay. (not that $5 in this case is a big deal.. but ~$50 delivery for a freezer when I have a ute and a store 15 minutes away…)
Yes, you can't pick up the goods from the store that doesn't have it in stock.
Applies to most of eBay sales I've seen…But the stores do have it in stock on the website, nothing shows as in stock on Ebay. The point i was trying to make was that NOTHING on their Ebay store is in stock in any of the local stores near me.. nothing at all. Every single item on the good guys ebay store is "out of stock" in every store nationwide. This is what it shows for me. (tried local postcodes and 4000, 3000 2000 etc) I do not get the option to click and collect anything through ebay from the Good guys. if I go to their website, I can see the local stock availability. I have tried contacting both TGG and Ebay about this in the past, but no response. For me to take advantage of the 20% ebay sale, I can only order with delivery.
Ack missed :(
Good deal but looks like low stock.
Edit: actually quantity says more than 10 available but drop-down only shows 3 so maybe there's a limit per purchase.