Car Broker for a New/Demo Car Any Recommendations Please

Hi all I have recently contacted a car broker in the hope of getting a good deal on a Hyundai i30 n-line Premium, demo or low mileage example.
Having spent 30 minutes telling them of my requirements, (yes I know should only take 3, but the guy insisted on trying to “bond” with me lol). I was assured they would get back within 24 hours with a brilliant deal,, That was 8 days ago and still waiting. I have been contacted by their department that tries to sell all the extras (paint protector etc.)
Then whilst browsing the online cars was contacted by a chat line that promised to find me a great deal,, again after the usual meaningless back and forth, then sent me a link to my local Hyundai dealer… I’d already checked them out and it’s unlikely that they will offer me a good deal.
I don’t necessarily have to trade my old car in, will pay cash, and ready to buy as soon as possible. I’m mature (70years old) or even an old fart if you prefer, haha.
Has anyone here had a worthwhile experience with a car broker, and if not how can I negotiate the best deal.? My target price is $27/28k
The whole experience is very frustrating so far..Any help and tips would be much appreciated,, thanks.
P.S. I’m Gold Coast based but perfectly happy to travel interstate if it’s viable.

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  • -3

    https://autoexpert.com.au/

    Absolutely great service!

    • They were unable to beat my own negotiations.

      • Can confirm. They were rubbish. Autoexpert isnt the broker, they are a broker broker. They palmed me off to a mob called “Georgie” who were utterly useless.

        I was in the market for a 18/19 Hyundai Tucson Active X in April/May this year. They came back to me after 6 weeks of waiting and only after I called them to chase it up. Their price was $1,000 more than what Hyundai had on their website. So they basically looked at the website and added their fees on it.

        • Interesting! I used them a couple of years ago and they were quick and cheaper than the dealer price.

          I'm actually on market for a Tucson Elite, so will pay close attention to the pricing and try to deal direct with local dealer instead.

  • +1

    Have you tried negotiating with the dealer?

    My target price is $27/28k

    Holy hell where is that from? Absolute cheapest example in the country is $30k + stamp for a 2018 car with 8,700kms.

    Are you trying to fit a car to your budget, or do you really think you'll find one for your price?

  • +1

    Ok well the site is called Ozbargain, I’ve seen 2018 examples for sub $30k. But happy for any useful information. As yet Not negotiated with a dealer. I recall a friend telling me a few years ago to use a broker,,, I buy a car every 8/10 years so not exactly an expert.

    • Ok well the site is called Ozbargain, I’ve seen 2018 examples for sub $30k.

      Yes, it is called that but there's still a market price for the car, and my search showed the cheapest cars in the country, as simple as that. Kinda difficult to look at the cheapest in the market and then expect a further 10% discount, broker or not. Adding stamp duty, that car becomes $30,933. Even if you negotiated further, you might get it to $30k drive away. That's still miles off your target.

      You might want to revisit your budget to find the car, until then you'll just waste your time and money paying brokers their fees.

  • Incidentally was offered a $500 discount on a car from Carsales.com … completely unsolicited because I looked at it online. Makes me think that perhaps I can still do better, but happy for any constructive advice thanks.

    • $500 isn't $3,000 though…

      • +1

        Yep I worked that out fairly quickly too thanks…I guess I’m hoping to do a little better than the standard offers I’ve already had. Maybe I should just pay what they are asking and stop being an Ozbargainer.

        • Or… negotiate yourself? But be reasonable in your haggling. IE don't take the cheapest car on Carsales in the country and expect a further 10% discount

          • @spackbace: The prices on car sales are negotiable. They inflate the prices on purpose so they can get negotiated down.

            • @Circly: Yes of course they're negotiable, but the cheapest one on the market is the cheapest because they left the smallest margin.

        • +2

          Far out, go into the dealer, say you have $28k, will they take it? If yes, fantastic, if not, wait for a used example to come up that you can afford.

  • I’m mature (70years old) or even an old fart if you prefer, haha.

    Then you should know better than to lie about your age :p Unless your birthday is coming up… Scorpio?

    P.s: No constructive comment as I know next to nothing about cars. I always buy the same one.

    • +1

      I always buy the same one.

      Beige Toyota Camry with tissue box on rear parcel shelf?

      • Do I come across as that boring online? 😖

        Hint: The kids have nicknamed my car the "Batmobile".

        • Because Toyota Camry’s make you look like a crazy old bat when you drive them?

          • @Euphemistic: Only if "crazy old bat" is an euphemism for totally awesome caped crusader… :p

            I drive an suv 😳 current iteration is black on black, hence the nickname. We also went through a stormtrooper(white exterior, black leather seats) and a short-lived Spiderman phase ( sapphire blue exterior with red leather seats) .

            • @[Deactivated]: Blue and red? Yeesh that would've had an affect on resale

              • @spackbace: Always the car salesman…

                2 corrections:
                i)The manufacturer called it Sapphire blue and Red Devil leather.
                ii) My kids called it the "superman" car. Auto-correct changed it to spider-man.

                And you're wrong,I actually made a profit when I sold it, once you factor in depreciation of course. TBH, the novelty of the superman car treatment wore off pretty quickly . I was more in love with the thought of it than the actual car and I was glad when a colleague made me an offer.

    • Haven’t had my 71st yet but thanks for reminding me

  • Got the i30 SR (which the N-line has now replaced I believe?) for 28.5k driveaway only a few months after it was released. Dealer was Hyundai Croydon.

    • Ok that sounds promising, hopefully a broker can source a good deal, thanks

      • Talk to dealers yourself!

        Brokers charge dealers around $500 for bringing a customer to them. That's $500 less they can negotiate on your behalf. Go in there yourself and do the business

        • Hmm I will go in personally.. I’m still just a bit interested in the claims from others that a broker will do better.. I was really asking if anyone here had good experiences using a broker,, but thanks again.

        • Not everyone wants to deal with dealers, for many very good reasons.

          Its a bit like volunteering for an enema, not a pleasant experience for most people.

    • By the way are you happy with that car? I believe it’s practically the same as the n-line.

      • Very happy - no issues at all.

        I think the SR is actually better because the n-line has some features removed (cross traffic alert? and maybe more).

  • +2

    IMO brokers are a joke. Trying to give you a better deal by ‘buying in bulk’ but insist on getting a cut. Dealers will have a bottom price and won’t go lower just because they are approached by a broker. Unless you are lazy go an negotiate yourself. You’ve set a target price, get as close as you can personally with the dealer.

    • Some are better than others, like everything… Most people cannot negotiate to a level a broker can, but a broker that just buys in bulk and tenders the deal out to several dealers rather than truly negotiating each specific car is just a waste of time.

      IMO a broker that works truly independantly of the dealers without kickbacks etc often get the best results (there arent many that work that way)

  • I guess we all have an opinion,, and I will respect that. I’m a tradesman (retired) and would expect to know a bit more than the man in the street in my chosen profession. I think there are probably others that can negotiate better than me, and possibly save me more than the cost of their services. Thanks

  • I will go see my local dealer though ,, just for the sake of comparison

  • I used http://carsearch.com.au/ recently they were able to get me lease pricing on a vehichle and delivered it to my door. It took them about 12 hours to get me a quote
    but you have to specifc in your requirements i.e model, make, colour, accessories etc. I tried negotiating with the dealer but they did not/could not come close to the price the broker had given me they were still 6k higher and needed a 3 month lead time.

    • Thanks, Maybe some brokers ARE worth using, my requirements are quite straightforward, no accessories no preference in colour, make model as my original post. 6k is a very worthwhile saving, I’m optimistic but we will see.

      • Please update us when you get a car.

  • Try Peter Warren in Sydney. They work on volume. Always cheap if you negotiate with them. tell them Stephen Adamson from Glenfield sent you.

  • If you want to get a good deal try going close to the end of the month. If they need more sales you will receive a call if not they don't want your business for your price targets

  • I car shop every couple of years, looking for great opportunities. I think best way is fine one on Carsales.com.au or similar. Individuals who have advertised for 2 weeks+ will typically come down a lot, and dealers can sometimes come down as well. But for a specific current model like that you'll find you get what you pay for, best get one from Hyundai dealer and pay the extra $1k. It will pay off with good will and warranty support….

    Why not be adventurous and do a generic search for that price range in late model, low mileage cars and find awesome alternatives!

    Check out these cars: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/results?q=((((Year%3Drange%5B2017..2019%5D%26Price%3Drange%5B20000..30000%5D)%26Service%3D%5BCarsales%5D)%26State%3D%5BQueensland%5D)%26Odometer%3Drange%5B..20000%5D)&sort=Year

  • Was happy with our experience through Milton Vehicle Brokers

  • If you don't mind spending 7K more for brand new MazdaCX-5, you can contact peznoodle

  • I used an online car broke (privatefleet) when I bought my car about 10 years back, and the experience was really good. Very helpful and got me a good deal. The person I dealt with had left though - received an email about 4 years back he’s moved to Carquotesonline. His name is Robert Kauter and assuming his contact details didn’t change, mobile: 0477 000 999; email: [email protected]

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