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A Mother's Story
By Rosie Batty and Bryce Corbett, 329 pages, published Oct 1, 2015

Amazon's Description:

An updated edition of the profoundly moving and inspiring memoir from Australia's domestic violence crusader, Rosie Batty.
Rosie Batty knows pain no woman should have to suffer. Her son was killed by his father in a violent incident in February 2014, a horrendous event that shocked not only the nation, but the world. Greg Anderson murdered his 11-year-old son Luke and was then shot by police at the Tyabb cricket oval. Rosie had suffered years of family violence, and had had intervention and custody orders in place in an effort to protect herself and her son. Rosie has since become an outspoken and dynamic crusader against domestic violence, winning hearts and mind all over Australia with her compassion, courage, grace and forgiveness. In January 2015, Rosie was named Australian of the Year, 2015. Inspiring, heartfelt and profoundly moving, this is Rosie's story.

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  • +3

    John Setka loves this book

    • +2

      Ah yes, another sad specimen engaged in victim-blaming.

      How brave.

      • +3

        white knighting simpletons, the foundation of her 'success' story

        • -1

          Well this simpleton helped trigger the Victorian Royal Commission into Family Violence. Suck it up.

    • +10

      As someone who has heard her speak live about family violence and all that lovely stuff, it was honestly really eye opening to how much of a hypocrite and or sexist she is.

      The audience would say something like "well what about violence against men?" to which she'd say "well the statistics aren't definitive" only to then go "well here's statistics in the same field and area and so on, but about women, that are 100% definitive and you can't deny them because they are statistics"

      There was a trans kid in the crowd (this took place at my uni's theatre), who was a friend of mine, who then proceeded to ask about trans relating violence a couple of times, only to be shot down as well.

      It basically was an hour and a half of "here's why men are the problem and any questions or statistics or anecdotes or anything you have to say that is not blindly going along with my narrative are also part of the problem"

      And I find the whole situation with her son's death very (profanity) suss, as I have since day dot, especially considering how much she's milked it for. I'm not saying she wanted it to happen, obviously, but she very much let it happen from my understanding of the story.

      • -2

        And I find the whole situation with her son's death very (profanity) suss, as I have since day dot, especially considering how much she's milked it for.

        Wow. Fortunately we have an independent coroners report that dealt with the actual facts to rebut that sort of toxic narrative.

        I'm not saying she wanted it to happen, obviously, but she very much let it happen from my understanding of the story.

        Oh, it gets worse. Sure buddy - she wanted her own son that she'd nurtured since birth to die so she could get some press. How toxic can you get? Come on, keep digging.

        • +2

          First off, learn to read, I said she didn't want it happen. Good job though, nice toxicity with your obvious aggressive angle and approach, subtly is clearly not your strong suit.

          Second, coroner schmoroner, how did the husband get there, how did the husband know they would be there, how did he get access to the child, blah blah blah. If she was so concerned she should have never let the boy out of her sight, it's (profanity) negligent at best and I don't even want to talk about what it is at worst.

          But good job avoiding all the earlier points about her angle and agenda, that's not toxic at all, dismissing valid criticism without so much as a second glance. Yeah, I'm the problem here, the one stopping and thinking about the situation for two seconds, rather than just trying to rile strangers up on the internet.

          • -1

            @TheDukeOfNukem: You're not the problem. You're just part of the problem. Best not to overstate your influence.

            My understanding is he had limited court-approved access. Read the Coroners report instead of just making shit up.

            But look, keep blaming her for everything. You know - her kids death, the fathers violence, climate change. Just keep digging.

  • What is wrong with this book to show such scorn

    • +33

      I have not read the book so I cannot comment on it. What I do recall concluding, is that the absolutely tragic events involving Rosie Batty, her clearly severely mentally ill ex-partner, and her young son were 'latched onto' by all sorts of groups with different agendas. At first even RB herself seemed to be against this, but as time went on that seemed to change and ultimately she was declared an 'Australian of the year'; but for no logical reason/achievement at all that I could fathom. I will tactfully refrain from commenting further on that particular issue.

      Then a whole lot of things spiraled out from there, the main 'gist' of which was 'guys are POTENTIALLY bad, mmmmmOK?'. It was absolutely like the beginnings (or dissemination) of a racist ideology, sowing small seeds that even just by their very nature guys (males) should be considered with a degree of caution/suspicion. The repeated implication seemed to be that it was extremely important for women to be 'protected' from potentially violent guys (but without any practical solutions as to how that should be done), whereas peaceful guys did not need to be 'protected' from potentially violent guys. Again and again a 'gender divide' was reiterated (I would say, FUELED) in all forms of media, followed by heavily scripted words loosely pertaining to the RB tragedy. The fact that the overwhelming majority of guys are completely/absolutely/totally non-violent ALL of the time was blatantly and serially ignored. It was clearly an inconvenient truth that the media in general preferred not to acknowledge. The fact that ALL Australians are deserving of protection from the very small percentage of humans in our society that are violent was majorly distorted, by numerous 'interest groups'. Those groups turned it into an issue that was constantly and repeatedly framed in inherently sexist terms.

      No doubt I will receive hundreds of 'negs' for posting my 'raw thoughts'/recollections about this historical event, but I don't care, really. Yay for 'free speech'…

      • -6

        "It was absolutely like the beginnings (or dissemination) of a racist ideology, sowing small seeds that even just by their very nature guys (males) should be considered with a degree of caution/suspicion."

        It's not "ideology" that's the issue, it's a propensity towards violence, and yes, men are mostly the perpetrators and it's mostly women with VRO's and/or their children/family who are beaten to a pulp or murdered. Unless you think UN ODC statistics are lying.

        "A 2013 global study on homicide by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime found that men accounted for about 96 percent of all homicide perpetrators worldwide and 79% of the victims."

        • +12

          I take your point with absolute respect. My point though, is that it is not helpful/productive to suggest or constantly reiterate in the media that simply because most violence is perpetrated by males, there 'should be'/'needs to be' (or even) 'it is fair to' attach a 'general stigma' to males in general in this regard. That is simply not the case at all, and is entirely akin to utterly misguided racism. May I respectfully ask you if you are aware of what the percentage of males that have never been convicted of any violent crime of any type is? Would it surprise you if it was incredibly low? Given this, is it really 'fair' (or productive/helpful/etc.) to constantly attach the label 'male' to human violence?

      • +5

        @GnarlyKnuckles

        Really well summarised. I'm sure there are many in public life who agree but the narrative is too dangerous to challenge in these political correct times.

        This line in particular was right on target:

        It was absolutely like the beginnings (or dissemination) of a racist ideology

        Exactly. Now, for every murder of a women there is an army of feminists, with RB in tow, backed with media condemning ALL MEN. The very definition of sexism/misandry.

        • -1

          *…condemning ALL MEN.

          No they're not, that's just how you're taking it.

          Why do you feel so guilty?

          • +2

            @[Deactivated]: Actually, that's exactly what many radical feminists have said. High-profile Australian feminist Jane Caro is a repeat offender - see her Twitter account.

            • -3

              @rokufan: Oh i love Jane. She's a beautiful human being.

              Wish she'd run for parliament so we can get more laws to deal with all these man-babies who can't cope.

              • +3

                @[Deactivated]: Approving of misandrist. Colour me surprised.

                • -2

                  @rokufan: Sorry, but your appointed time has ended. As i've said, from now on you need to take it up with your mummy.

                  • +1

                    @[Deactivated]: Shame you didn't check out earlier, you ran out of intelligent comment along time ago.

                    • @rokufan: Nup, still bored. You're boring me man.

      • +4

        Each week 15 people exposed to domestic violence are killed or kill themselves.

        10 are male, 5 are female.

        Yet you continue to push the bollocks that women are the only victims of domestic violence.

        Source: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/…

        • -4

          It was a man in Batty's case, and it's mainly men.

          I don't buy the 10/5 figure - where did that come from? Does it include women striking men with fly swatters? If you can't come up with hard evidence for these figures then you have no credibility at all.

          You also sound very angry. Are you an incel?

          • +4

            @[Deactivated]: I just provided figures that prove that men die at twice the rate of women and you can't be bothered looking at the source which is from Australian government data.

            And you claim I have no credibility despite the fact that I linked to the source but it's ok for you to spread lies.

            I'm not angry at all, but the bollocks that people like you spread needs to be countered with facts.

      • +3

        I negged you.

        Such a complex issue involving homelessness, disadvantage, and severe mental illness and yes a lack of respect for for women, was distilled into a very simplistic "men = disrespect = violence". Which in turn turned into asinine political sloganeering and point-scoring from various groups.

        What to you think would have been more likely to save Luke's life - Respect for Women training and white ribbons, or a properly resourced mental health system?

        If asking that question makes me want to "maintain power over women" or be a "man-baby" then so be it.

        • Thanks for coming in.

          I agree - it is complex, but as you say a lack of respect for women's autonomy is one factor. The problem i have is when people seek to totally ignore that.

          And yes, there are serious issues with our mental health system. I don't know if this particular guy had a mental illness - the Coroner did say:

          I am unable to make any findings in relation to the reasons for Mr Anderson's decision to kill his son. I note Ms Batty's plausible explanation that Luke was growing older and wished to withdraw from his father, and that Mr Anderson was aware of this and wished to assert his control over his son.

          I accept the evidence of Emeritus Professor Paul Mullen, Centre for Forensic Behavioural Science that Mr Anderson may have had a delusional disorder. However, the absence of any full psychiatric assessment during Mr Anderson's life, means no finding can be made with certainty about whether Mr Anderson suffered from any particular mental illness or how me might have been treated.

          I don't know what would have saved the kid - though mental illness may well have been one factor, however it's unclear. He may not have had a mental illness at all - serious or otherwise.

          However it seems to me he was mainly seeking to cause mental harm to Rosie - and she's on record as saying that. The son independently drifting away from him as he got older looks like another factor, but not dominant. But that's just my take…

          • +5

            @[Deactivated]:

            I note Ms Batty's plausible explanation that Luke was growing older and wished to withdraw from his father, and that Mr Anderson was aware of this and wished to assert his control over his son.

            Notice that no-one else provided any information or proof that the boy wanted to distance himself from his father.

            I don't know what would have saved the kid - though mental illness may well have been one factor, however it's unclear. He may not have had a mental illness at all - serious or otherwise.

            So you think a sane person would stab his child to death?

            However it seems to me he was mainly seeking to cause mental harm to Rosie - and she's on record as saying that.

            She can say whatever she wants now.

            The son independently drifting away from him as he got older looks like another factor, but not dominant. But that's just my take…

            Once again you're saying the woman is innocent and the male is at fault. There is a lot that is unknown about what happened and only the word of one person who will be biased to portray it in a certain way.

        • +5

          yes a lack of respect for for women

          The murdered victim is a boy. So maybe a lack of respect for males should get a mention. Or more likely, the mentally ill perpetrator had a lack of respect for human life period rather rather it being gender-based.

      • +2

        BTW let's see how many of the neggers identify themselves.

        Why so you CANCEL them?!

  • Not Free anymore

    • have you got Amazon Prime?

      • Nop

        • +3

          eBook is only free to read with Amazon Prime AU membership

  • -1

    I love that we are aware of this issue, but what now?

    What does awareness achieve?

    • +1

      Support from the rest of society

      • How ? I see it is all talk ( IMHO )

        • +6

          Sure, but it takes pebbles to build a mountain. Maybe this will get a few people to seek treatment, or vote for politicians who'll actually fund psych / family services etc.

  • +4

    was this only domestic violence or was it also mental illness? The fact mental illness is never ever mentioned gives me questions

    • +3

      What is there to question? He clearly had severe mental issues and she realized this, but good luck getting someone in that state to voluntarily get treatment.

      • but good luck getting someone in that state to voluntarily get treatment.

        You seem to know a bit about him.

        How did he get to that state?

        • +4

          I don't know anything about him, and anything written is conjecture since he never got a proper diagnosis. Just from my limited experience with guys with depression / anger issues.

          • -2

            @Merlict:

            Just from my limited experience with guys with depression

            so he did get diagnosed with depression ?

            • +3

              @jv: Doesn't look like it jv - check out the summary findings on page 3 from the Coronial Inquiry.

    • +8

      or was it also mental illness?

      It was very clearly due to mental illness. The guy walked onto an oval and stabbed his own young son (an entirely faultless child) to death, in front of his ex-partner/the boy's mother; completely unprovoked by the son in any way. Sadly the father was evidently completely deranged.

      • +12

        Exactly, I don’t understand how this tragedy is used for domestic violence and not mental illness

        • -5

          No, you don't understand. A father killed his son to cause harm not only to the son but mental harm to the mother who wasn't doing what he wanted. There may have been elements of mental illness in this man, but that doesn't mean it does not come under the rubric of domestic violence.

          Have you got that? Father-Mother-Son. Sounds family/domestic to me.

          Is that so hard to understand?

  • +9

    She is a sociopath according to several female workers from the charity regulator that refused to work for her and folded her charity quietly.

    • -1

      Not that I've ever heard of. What's the source?

      According to the Guardian, Batty took on too much, too soon, after her son's murder and it finally got to her. I can imagine that having the charity to invest her time in was a good way to cope with the grief and aftermath, but she couldn't keep it up.

      • +2

        2.5 million in income, mostly from donations.

        15k in project expenses.

        I found this at the compulsory online reporting from the luke batty foundation.

        I am not qualified to say if this is corruption or not. I remember hearing that no other company would take the her on afterwards, despite her high profile.

        I don't rely on googling words written from reporters who understand where their pay comes from.

  • +15

    I only heard her story from ABC Radio. She picked the man in a bar, then got pregnant and raised her son. But she felt Like needs a father while growing up, so invited the man into Luke's life, knowingly, the man had mental illness and violent.
    I'd keep away from even knowing such a man in the first place, so I won't be the story myself.,

      • +7

        Lol, "TheGhostWhoWalks (although its difficult for him to walk in a straight line because he's constantly veering over to the far left)".

        • +1

          Thank you. It is a rare happy occasion when I laugh out loud in real life after reading a comment online.

          • +1

            @Happy501: If you thought that was funny i've got some knock knock jokes for you.

            • +1

              @[Deactivated]: Joker reference? Cool movie.
              If not fire away….

              • -1

                @Happy501: Oh that's an old joke. Might also appear in some movie somewhere.

                I lied about the knock knock jokes.

  • +3

    As someone who’s known a guy who was stabbed to death by his wife after suffering years at her verbal and other physical forms of abuse, I find Rosie’s unwillingness to address family violence as a whole disappointing.

    But then again, maybe that’s not her role. She’s telling a woman’s story that is reflective of many other women’s stories.

    The question is are we willing to grant exposure to men to speak about domestic violence towards them?

  • +4

    Most victims of "male violence" are men.

    • -1

      …at the hands of other men. What's your point?

  • +1

    Don't for a second assume there isn't countless assaults female>male that goes unreported for all the usual reasons, and male stigma on top. Not to cast aside; Emotional trauma, controlling behaviours and abuse of the family violence protection act.. definitely not.

    Family violence will always exist, sadly. Love sits next to hate on the scale of emotion.

    Its not about gender, roles or blame. Its about understanding one another and having compassion to resolve things. The conflict will always happen, it's learning to deal with it in a civilized manner that will take us forward.

    • citation needed

      • +2

        Self.

        • -1

          Oh wow, I can't believe the police and ABS haven't contacted you for your opinion which is most definitely not based on biased insights or unsupported by statistics.

          citation
          /sʌɪˈteɪʃ(ə)n/
          noun
          1.
          a quotation from or reference to a book, paper, or author, especially in a scholarly work.

  • https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/domestic-violence/family-dom…

    For people who want to look at the actual data, rather than the unsubstantiated, whataboutism stories listed above.

    • +1

      At a glance, this data doesn't talk about gendre but talks about race. Yumi Synes wouldn't like these numbers.

      • -1

        Did you look at the Excel sheet? Refer to figures 4.1-4.5 as a start.

    • +3

      You fail to grasp the concept that unreported data isnt analysed.

      • You fail to grasp that the reported data speaks for itself. Are you trying to tell me that the unreported data would solely be related to female on male violence to the point where it would vastly outweigh the reported data? citation needed

        Sorry, who has an agenda again?

        • +1

          "you trying to tell me that the unreported data would solely be related to female on male violence to the point where it would vastly outweigh the reported data?"

          Yes.

          Citations in the sociology represent nothing but a waste of papet.

        • +3

          No citation supporting your ridiculous question but here are some excerpts related to what I believe lethalmoney was actually referring to. These are from the 2019 AIHW report that your linked data is associated with:

          As many of the data sources collect information about female victims of intimate partner violence perpetrated by men, these incidents make up a large part of this report. However, the report includes information about men’s and children’s experiences of violence, and the experiences of specific population groups where data are available. Data on perpetrators are limited, but reported where available

          Specific information about a perpetrator may not be available for a number of reasons, including information not being reported by, or on behalf of, victims, or information not being recorded in the patient’s hospital record. The perpetrator of assault was less likely to be specified for male, compared with female victims, and for young or middle-aged adults, compared with child and older victims. Comparisons of the type of perpetrator between sex and age groups, and across time, should be made with some caution (AIHW 2018d)

          Males are less likely to specify the person responsible for assault than are females (Figure 3.6). As a result, there may be an undercount of males hospitalised due to assault from a partner. Also, the proportion of hospitalisations where a perpetrator was not specified fell between 2002–03 and 2016–17, from 34% to 19% for females, and from 67% to 51% for males. This should be considered when interpreting the results. The rise in the proportion of hospitalisations where a perpetrator was specified may in part explain the rise in hospitalisations of females due to assault by a spouse or partner.

          Some of these relate to the perperator but from one of your earlier (unsubstantiated and uncited) comment I expect that I your real concern anyway.

  • -1

    Didn't realise OB has so many Incels………

    • not following a false narrative makes someone an incel, right …
      logic from the i'm a doormat crowd?

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