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RM Williams Dynamic Flex Craftsman Boot (Black or Chestnut) $413.10 Delivered @ Blowes Clothing eBay
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If you don't want to pay RRP, then the likes of TheStableDoor, Nungar and PortPhillipShop all allow you to order F, but I believe they are custom orders which take a few weeks. All three shops have sales every now and then, but always cheaper than RRP.
Anyone have any experiences with this store?
Yes, bought the Comfort Craftsman from them. Very happy, no issues.
Yes, they're great. Mostly around the central west area.
Yes i got my shoes from their ebay store for the discount code even though i live 2 minutes from one of their brick and mortar stores! Still got a kick for supporting local business :)
That's a paddlin'
I've never owned RM Williams before. I've noticed through comments that the sizing for these is very specific. Is there a way I could size myself and order online or do I have to walk in store first and get myself sized there?
Definitely best to size instore
Do you walk in pretending that you’re gonna buy in store or are you up front about just wanting to get fitted and are going to buy online?
I just go to any of the stores even in myers or David Jones and ask if they can size me. No pressure to buy on the spot. Never had any problems!
There's nothing stopping you from going into a store to try for size and saying that you'll have a think about it.
Yes, make sure you're fanning your face with a dozen $50 notes while asking for assistance. After you've established your preferred shoe size, bid the sales person "good day" and exit the store. If they begin to protest, then immediately interject with "I said good day!"
I'd definitely get the wrong size if I didnt size indoor previously.
You'll probably find that the RMs don't match your usual shoe/boot size. I found that for me I needed 1/2 size down, and a friend a full size down….and then there's the width to consider. I believe the Dynamic Flex add more considerations to the correct sizing given the insole padding.
I didn't find the online RM size guide that helpful either.
So better to size first instore, otherwise PayPal and Ebay plus do have free returns.Will definitely have to get my feet sized for RMs soon before another bargain pops up :) thanks guys
I usually wear a size 9 UK in Clarks. I needed a size 8 UK in R.M Williams. If I hadnt of tried them on instore I definitely would have gotten the wrong size.
I've never owned a Chelsea boot - I would have thought you'd need a larger size to squeeze your feet into them.
Blowes are awesome, and usually have the best prices. I have a pair of RM's from them and I ordered at night, and got them 2 days later.
I found the Dynamic Flex boots to be focused on people that need arch support, so they were a bit uncomfortable for me because I already have high arches. They have by far the best inner sole of all of the RM boots though!
Your mileage may vary, but I would try a pair on before buying if you've never used the Dynamic Flex style. I am not sure if wearing them in will make them more comfortable under those circumstances, but they're a bit pricey for the risk so I declined.
obviously don't know your stuff m8
I'm looking for an additional boots since my RM is getting old. What brand should I look into ? :)
Recommend any brands?
IF there are, they're not marketing very well
Feel free to link lower priced wholecut chelsea boots that you can try on in person
@mlburnian: $55 for the rubber. Should last for about 2 years. Well that's what mine lasted anyway. Wore them everyday for 2 years.
Ironically, ignorance seems to be strong in you. Heaps of people buy their boots and that already shows how silly your comment is.
It's far from an average Aussie brand. RM Williams is renowned worldwide for their whole cut, Goodyear welted boots. Are the prices high compared to yesteryears? Yes, as a result of LVMHG, but they still represent value and world-class quality.
You seem happy to make a vague claim there are 'better' worldwide shoe brands at this price level, but neglect to actually provide examples to support your claim. Please, share what brands are of better quality at this price, that you can try on and purchase locally?
Can we have some examples? This is OzBargain, I'd love a deal on some better and cheaper RMs!
Can anyone who upvoted this let us know which brands are better?
what are these much better leather boot manufacturers you speak of then??
Yes I agree. Not that far off a pair of Red Wings which I would much rather
Different kettle of fish. Not many red wings that go with formal attire.
Carmina, Vass and maybe Justin Fitzpatrick. A little bit more…but once you're in that price bracket an extra $100 or so isn't much more to fork out for internationally recognised quality boots
You can try Loake, Meermin, Cheaneys or Church's.. I just bought a pair of Church's and they are very nice. Very pricey though, even more than RMs. I have 3 pairs of RMs too :)
@ozioziozi: I think Church's are overpriced, C&J is better for similar money (i think they're similarly priced)
@fractalsonfire: Slightly below Crockett and Jones are Barker, Trickers or Herring from their UK web site. Pediwear is also an option. From what I recall, some people prefer Trickers to C&J bench-grade.
Why would you rather a pair of Red Wings? Genuinely curious.
Not particularly a fan of RMW myself but I'd take them any day over typical Red Wing clown shoes.. err, Iron Rangers.
Feels like Red Wings have been somewhat overrated by Americans on the internet learning about leather boots for the first time.
I have over 10 pairs of quality shoes, which includes a few RMs, Church's and a pair of Red Wings Iron Ranger. Red Wings Iron Ranger is one of my top favorites. I wear jeans with blazer to work everyday and switch between Red Wings and RMs alternatively. Red Wings are very good quality and last years. I find them more rugged them RMs but they are very different look. I have been wearing them since last 6 months and they are as good as new.
Has anybody had the lining of their RM's go? I have an issues where the left heel lining has torn. Not sure If I should worry or try to get them repaired. Any comments?
Should bring it in store that also does repairs - ask for their opinion !
‘Eligible Items’ means all items listed on eBay.com.au where these terms and conditions are found and the coupon redemption code PADDLE is displayed in the item listing.
Has someone tried the code? I cant find paddle on the page
Try PARADISE as an alternative code
…well yes they do. Myself, along with all other RM customers wear the shoes for year possibly decades.
I've got a pair I wear every now and then that are 27 years old this year..
How many times have they been resoled and what does it cost to have them done?
not sure if serious haha
I have worn mine daily for nine years now.
And yes, they are targeting a small segment of the shoe market, but they dominate it.
Not every business model requires chasing maximum market share.
I love how this is framed as some kind of factual, authoritative statement, when RM Williams deals are always popular on OzBargain.
"so no one wants to pay their high price"
"They sell a quality product that most people don't actually want."$143 million revenue in 2018
OK.
Grad working in a big 4 starterpack.
80k euro car - check.
$100 shoes don't last 10 years lol
The RM's can be repaired, I had my last pair brought back to brand new for $250.
Total cost of ownership over the long run works out to be pretty much the same or better and you get to wear a much nicer boot during that time.
@FilePeter: All shoes can be repaired if we're talking about wear and tear only? And what makes something "nicer"? It's all pretty subjective. Again, no disrespect to owners of the brand, if you like them, that's cool too. Just providing my perspective.
lol @ 'take it literally'. sorry for using your exact numbers when your entire second point was based around a math comparison.
i think it's probably reasonable to say that $100 shoes last ~2 years, and $400 shoes could last 10+ years. which is exactly what the guy below me just said - works out to be similar/a little cheaper, and they are better shoes.
@dirkgonnadirk: All good. Everyone's got different experiences with durability of shoes, I just used 10 as an arbitrary figure. I've got cheap AirFlex shoes that are going on to their 7th year with no signs of it slowing down for example. Could have said 7 years, and then it would be 28 years to recoup costs, just used a rounded up figure.
@orly: Not all shoes can be repaired/reconditioned the same. Most of the department store brands are simple glued soles, RM's are stitched in the Good Year Welt method, you may find it useful to Google that term as you can then seek out brands that also use it.
Nicer is subjective, but as someone who used to stand on my feet 8 hours a day (Casino manager), by legs and back felt substantially less fatigued after wearing the RMs than the cheaper shoes that I went through at a rate of about 2 pairs per year. The RM's lasted me 8 years of Casino work and then another 3 years at my office job before I felt the need to have them redone.
Always look after your feet.
@FilePeter: That's a fair review, I can appreciate that..👍🏻 And goes to show the variance in who wears them. Mine is mainly at a computer and some occasional site work so they won't get the same amount of wear as someone like yourself.
@mlburnian: Yes, possible. Depends on a number of factors including your wear, gait/pronation, how many shoes you rotate, how well you look after them.
Sure other brands have similar styles, but none at a $100 price point are constructed even remotely the same as a whole cut, Goodyear welted shoe. I'd say $100 from those brands are a rip-off for cemented shoes. Wear-through the sole and they are done. There is no point repairing them once they are gone.
A Great Wall Ute does the same job as a Hilux, but why do people buy a Hilux? It's obvious.
"They go on your feet. They're utilitarian. I find all my shoes super comfortable, regardless of brand because they were bought with fit being a priority."
Not everyone's feet as are accommodation like yours. So its a very narrow-minded view you put out there. RM Williams have so many different quality soles (including these Dynamic Flex soles) and lasts (narrow to wide fit). A proper leather sole is a different beast to cheap rubber. It's fine if YOU don't need it, but don't write off other brands based on your own limited experiences and needs.
how many shoes you rotate
That's clearly the biggest factor in having shoes for 10 years. You're being intentionally misreading if you're trying to slip that under the radar and pass these shoes off as lasting for 10 years under normal wear and tear of even every second day. Any shoe would last 10 years with the adequate amount of rotation.
They do if you don’t wear them.
I bought these this morning for the same price with code 'PARADISE'.
For $400, these are a no brainer. You would go through 5 pairs of $100-200 Julius Marlow/Florsheim/Aquila/other department store brand in the time it would take to wear out the RM's. I sent my last pair of RM's back to the factory for a relast/resole/refurb and they came back looking brand new for $250 shipped to my door.
Yes, there are international brands of similar quality, but I really don't have the time to search through the GoodYearWelt forums to find them, plus as I'm in a country town in SA I really can't try any of them on.
My RM size (10H) is well below my Nike (12) size, so best to try on first.
I have been buying those brands when on sale for about 50 dollars. I have a black and brown shoe that I alternate 4 days a week. By doing this they typically last about 2 maybe 3 years. 100 bucks for 3 years is pretty good, works out cheaper than having Goodyear welts that u resole for 150 bucks every year or so.
Also,its not good to wear the same shoe every day, the leather needs time to dry. So two pairs of RMs.. U need about 1000 bucks.I bought my first pair of Comfort Craftsmen for $250 from the RM's outlet. I've since had them resoled/relasted for an additional $250. So far they've provided me 11 years of hard wear and I just had the reconditioning done in July this year and am now in a job with substantially less wear, so I would expect another 10+ years before another touch up.
With this latest purchase I will be up to a $900 spend total for 2 pairs of goodyear welted boots, that is about $30 a year for the expected wear time. Plus if you do a search on eBay, they will resell for a minimum of $100+ depending on condition.
None of the above includes the benefits for your body of wearing better fitting footwear.
It truly is a case of spend more up front to save money in the long run.
Does anyone know if these are TRS eligible?
Should be fine. I assume it’ll come with a GST invoice, but if it doesn’t, shouldn’t have any problems asking the seller for one.
Any goods purchased that has a GST component that you take out the country is eligible. Technically, if you bought a $300 gold covered chocolate bar and wanted to eat it Airside in a airport terminal, it will be TRS eligible.
Yes i claimed TRS on my RMs from Blowes - ordered via ebay
Thanks OP. Rare I find these on sale in non-regular sizing.
Generally the people that knock RM's for the price have never owned or worn a pair.
You'll struggle to find a more durable and comfortable boot. I can literally wear these 5 days for years and not have an issue. Not to mention they look fantastic. Heaven on the feet.
And that’s coming from ‘Tight Terry’ 😂😂👌
Pretty much this.
CAn you run in them?
Any hiking boot would be more comfortable. I know it's not a like for like comparison but as an owner of an RMW I do believe their comfort is overhyped. The upper takes a long time to break in and the sole simply doesn't have good cushioning.
For a dress boot (if there can be one) it can be considered comfortable of the shape of the last suits you. Many people have feet shape that don't go well with RMW - please don't assume that they are whining as they can't afford one.
Have you tried a Dynamic Flex insole + sole though? Different kettle of fish in terms of comfort for many.
I have a comfort sole and have added some soft insole which helps.
Just ordered my first pair. What do u guys suggest I use to keep them looking good and last? Some sort of leather conditioner? Sorry I’m new to this!
Trimly shoe trees + RM William leather products or Saphir, will keep it in good nick for years(decades).
Thanks mate I’ll good into them.
Are the trees to maintain shape or to absorb odours?
Bit of both. I have trees for my Loakes work shoes and they do that.
I got some Trimly ones for my wife's RMs from Nungar, the trees look as good as any. That said, the boots from Nungar were ordered in June and still haven't arrived so I can't actually say they fit / work perfectly yet…
^Yep. Get yourself some shoe trees to keep them in shape and fresh. Get yourself some leather conditioner if you haven't already. You can buy the exact color matching for boot polish as well from RM :)
Thanks mate. Will do.
Where do u get the trees? Do u get them from RM? Ebay?
Thanks again!
Ebay if you just want generic. If you buy the ones through RM or the really good quality ones youre looking at 3 figures. The good ones are def better, i just cant justify the price.
@TightTerry: Wowsers. I’m not spending $100 on a shoes tree. Can u link me one off eBay that looks ok?
Thanks I’ll owe u one.
@Bellpop: Just put in shoe tree and there is heaps all offering the same or similar product, usually around $20
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Would you know how i can get a width F. Is the only way to walk into a store and order?