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Gripping, thought-provoking and deeply rewarding, 12 Rules for Life offers an antidote to the chaos in our lives: eternal truths applied to our modern problems.
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I’ll take 2, but I don’t want either
Rule 7 - Self Help book are a waste of money
Rule 8 - An easy way to make money is to write a Self Help, or How To Get Rich Quick book
OK, I'll take Rule 7
Rule 1 - You do not talk about self help club
Rule 2 - If you take advice from me, without checking who I am or what I know, you deserve what you get.
I thought rule 2 would have been: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT SELF HELP CLUB
@Scorn: Well it was, but at the last minute the author didn't have the self confidence and changed it. But it's okay, he's working through it himself.
"Rules for life" is pretty simple, there's only one: don't die.
Good luck with that
So far so good!
Here they are for free:
1) Stand up straight with your shoulders back
2) Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helping
3) Make friends with people who want the best for you
4) Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not to who someone else is today
5) Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them
6) Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world
7) Pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient)
8) Tell the truth – or, at least, don't lie
9) Assume that the person you are listening to might know something you don't
10) Be precise in your speech
11) Do not bother children when they are skateboarding
12) Pet a cat when you encounter one on the streetspoiler alert!
Sounds like the advice my old Grandmother would mumble😉
Your grandmother charges $12 when she mumbles at you? I thought I was the only one ;-)
6 is the one that should be ringing alarm bells for you. Firstly because no one has their house in perfect order. Certainly some people clearly do better than others but anyone who tells you their house is in perfect order is not to be trusted, and I'm including the author. 6 is how someone can dismiss and deflect valid criticism while pretending to be superior.
Peterson has some really good ideas. But they're mixed in with a lot of BS. And he mistakes his ability to speak clearly and convincingly with the ability to reason in areas outside of his own expertise.
A few of my other issues with his list.
5 is really horrible advice if your kid is off the rails. Your job as a parent is to love and guide your child as best you can even if they do horrible things you despise. You'll have more control when you're young, but I'd love to see how he tackles the issue of a child who is under the influence of an addiction or has chosen a criminal lifestyle. Perhaps he tackles it well in the book. I don't want to bother reading it to find out. On the surface this soundbite sucks.
8 is one where you have to use your judgement. Fair and honest dealing is a good first principle but there are lots of exceptions where the truth will do much more harm than good.
11 is good advice. They'll probably beat you up and steal your wallet ;-)
12 must be because he has a fetish for being scratched and bitten.
Good valid points.
#6 is particularly good to deflect any criticism - if you write a book like this. Just say "Read #6!"😉
(Also handy for authoritarian groups to stop dissent!)
Perfection is never possible, for mere mortals like us.Seems a repackaging of the Biblical "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." (Creating a new phrase - that's worth gold for marketing & copyright. Already ordered the mug😀)
However, many people are unaware of their own failings, but criticise others for lesser issues. It can be easier to see others problems, than deal with our own.
Another way of saying #6 in common use, without demanding perfection - get your shit together. We can all benefit from dealing with our own issues.
#12 seems just a repackaging of the age old recommendation to “Stop and smell the roses”🌹 Enjoy life!
I play with cats & dogs, say hello to strangers I meet, & smell the flowers. Makes for a pleasant day. But watch out for claws & thorns😉@INFIDEL: Might want to stick to smelling the flowers
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121206203240.h…
@Wally: Yes - cats can be pretty scary!
But we've lived with them for millennia.Cat faeces are a risk for Toxoplasmosis. And the parasite can be anywhere on the cat & ground.
🚨Don't touch your face or let the cat touch your face & thoroughly wash hands afterwards🚨 Appropriate action when handling any animal, soil, other humans…
Those most at risk of more than the flu-like symptoms: toxoplasmosis in the brain can be fatal in people with depleted immune defence and in fetuses, which can be infected through the mother.
As for smelling the roses - watch out for bees if you're allergic to their stings!
It's a scary world! I'm staying at home, locking the door & watching endless cat videos🐈😉
@INFIDEL: I recommend reading the book before jumping to comments. Rule 12 has little to do with cats. It is quite an amazing chapter,I found
Last 2 rules seem a bit strange, I'll have to buy the book to understand what he means
You need to buy a book to explain such sayings?
Just think about it for a while.
If still in doubt, there's… Google - plenty of discussion & videos.Similar advice has been given out by many others, long before this book.
The book & ebook is available at many libraries for free. My council library stocks 90 copies!
Fossil-Fuel companies L-O-V-E "Rule 6"
Example of "Rule 8" in use:
- Liquid-Fuel, Molten Salt Reactors (MSR) = the Future of Nuclear Energy
(Look Forward to &
Expect 'em ~2030)
Peterson?!?
Very important book here some of the actual rules :
11) Do not bother children when they are skateboarding
12) Pet a cat when you encounter one on the streetI have to upvote Gramps to help some good folk:)
If on Prime you can get it free on trial .
If on Prime you can get it free on trial .
If you're later convicted, do you still have to return it?
lol :)
Jv on fire 🔥 today :) brilliant replies buddy.
I just finished reading this and loved it! His way of articulating each rule is fascinating
Great book
in what way?
He's awesome, I love all of the YouTube clips where he shuts up the feminists
love it, I've actually never seen him be a jerk. Unless you take offence to truths and disagree with his arguments, but that's not being a jerk.
"Peterson has become a lifestyle guru for men and boys who feel displaced by a world where white male privilege is under attack."
I think you mean 'destroys feminists with facts and logic'
He's like Ben Shapiro, but he doesn't talk as fast. And his wife isn't a doctor.
He's like Ben Shapiro
No he's not.
Ben Shapiro uses child like behavior to make moronic people feel like he won an argument regardless of what the argument is about.
@mranderson978: Not at all . Ben Shapiro tries to be smart by being a bully. When confronted by logic, becomes a cry baby and leaves the set. Jordan is a man of logic.
@mranderson978: and he's not Jewish, Canadian not American and a fair bit older. Just like Ben Shapiro, it's uncanny…..
My rule number 3 - Do not replace one tyrant with another.
Wrong.
he only eats meat and salt.
Have you bothered to find out why ?
no one who knew he ate just meat and salt would not also know why. Downvote away, reality is a terrible thing.
no one who knew he ate just meat and salt would not also know why.
I know he only ate meat and sale, but I do not know why
I believe he only eats non seasoned veggies and meat, except for tumeric and salt, he puts tumeric and salt in everything, he claims it cured him from depression and got him off meds that he would've been taking for life, and it also helped him lose 50 pounds.
Making this comment was never going to end well for you Bartholemew..now, go clean your room and start to take some responsibility.
Why are there twelve rules when there are only Ten Commandments? I’m all for cutting corners wherever I can.
There are many more than Ten Commandments.
Religious scholars quote 613 commandments.
But that's too much for us - so usually only refer to the top 10.Actually 614, which is generally igonred " thou shall not make any more commandments"
New Testament squeezes it down to TWO:
"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?"
Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
One of the most influential psychologists of today, highly recommended book
Having read the book myself, and found most of it to be just common sense. The fact that he has been "laughed out of academia" says more about how embroiled in identity politics and just out of touch academia is these days.
You may get a sense of this once you start job hunting after completing that PhD psychology degree of yours.
"laughed out of academia"
More like driven out, like when Cambridge University rescinded his Fellowship due to a campaign by left-wing activists.
You may get a sense of this once you start job hunting after completing that PhD psychology degree of yours.
HugoHugo Wins. Flawless Victory.
@hugohugo Which cereal box did you collect that from? Or was it a university? Same diff these days.
Wow those comments are some of the stupidest things I've heard about him.
Give them a break, their ATAR score only allowed them to get into psychology…
Lolwut?
Prolly the number one selling book in the world for a while.
Source: I have identity x so am the only person who can judge issue yIggemo is outer here, he will be DESTROYED if he doesn't
Wrong.
patreon beggar
Patreon, where people voluntarily support creators because they value their work. Literally, the free market at work.
Whereas, academia is funded by taxpayers, and quite often regardless of quality and popularity. I would say they are more akin to having out their begging bowls, many too conceited to realise it. And judging by his critics' articles that focus on his Patreon numbers, quite jealous.
wouldn't have mattered if he became popular or not, his stuff just happens to be more widely available now since it blew up and now more people have been exposed to it. Doesn't take away from the guy's work though.
It was laughed out.
After all, we all know that the validity of things should be measured by what's popular, certainly no issues with that at all.
You're absolutely right.The Earth is flat
The Earth is at the center of the Universe
Witches are real
God is-I'm joking. A lot people on Ozbargain like to believe in what their emotions tell them because they're simply sub-human apes. In the face of facts and documented evidence, or even just standard Academic practices like citations, they'll just yell at you until you shut up without giving a shred of logic behind their ramblings.
@Blitzfx: We're not talking about facts though, but popularity, ie:
i was thinking more Justin Beiber is an awesome musician since he's popular
Superhero movies are the best movies about
Married at First Sight is the best show on TV
Jordan Peterson is the most most influential psychologist of today, which is what my initial comment which is so beloved by so many actually said.I never doubted his popularity, oh god no. He's a real Deepak Chopra of today. There's a reason popular things are always dogshite, cos it appeals to the sub-human apes you referred to. These people commenting here are hardly going to go real James or Rank or Jung themselves, are they? I did have a look at that playstation lgbt theme thread just recently though and i recall a few cages eggs threads on this board too and i am getting a clearer picture of the sort of neanderthalls who frequent this site.
@Iggemo: Calling people neanderthals because they don't agree with you? The classic tear-down/discredit tactic for people who have no real argument. Love it.
If you really are working towards your PhD then you would know how extensively his work has been peer reviewed. Only a fool would laugh at Peterson.
Don't bother arguing with these people mate, check the comments made on the LGBT PlayStation theme and you'll see that they aren't worth the time or effort
Tell me about it. Wasted too much time there.
comments made on the LGBT PlayStation
What ????
There is now an LGBT PlayStation ??
I am more than dualshocked !!!
@jv: "LGBT PlayStation theme". But you knew that already because you were one of the homophobic people on that thread. You wouldn't say these edgy things in public would you? Grow up
you were one of the homophobic people on that thread.
LOL… sure… go ahead and label everyone with a different opinion to yours 'homophobic'.
How hypocritical of you…
@jv: Well another one of your opinions is that lgbt celebration stuff is alienating for non-lgbt people. Clearly you have some non-trivial issues you gotta work out. Maybe take a look at yourself instead of pacing around this thread making edgy comments
Well another one of your opinions is that lgbt celebration stuff is alienating for non-lgbt people.
really? where did I say that?
@jv: Really? Playing dumb? You said that on the thread for the lgbt playstation theme. Take care now
@jv: That's not an opinion? Then you are taken a leaf out of the Peterson book and your definition of "opinion" is a bit abnormal.
@jv: jv deftly demonstrating the Jordan Peterson art of debate.
Person: "Here's a view you appear to hold based on your comments."
jv / JP: "Where did I say that?"
Person: "Here are your words, verbatim."
jv / JP: "Sorry, the broadly accepted definition of what the word 'opinion' means doesn't apply to what I wrote."
Person: "Right. Sorry, what do you mean?"
jv / JP: "I'm interpreting you saying sorry as an apology, which I accept, regardless of how the word was used in context."
Person: Goes off to find something better to do.
@Pantagonist: Midway through a great bottle of red wine I thought to myself "I can answer JV or I can finish the bottle of wine." I woke up with a sore head at 0600 when my son woke up and his mother wanted a sleep in.
jordan left patreon earlier this year, jokes on you
Anyone interested in a group buy?
I'm keen to get 4 rules for $4