Why Are People So Angry

LOaZis on 04/07/2019 - 11:58

Hi all together

I have noticed a lot of angry comments about deals in general.
People complain, that it is cheaper somewhere else, or that it is even a bad item. Some drop links to cheaper pages overseas.
Honestly, not every deal is for everyone. For some, it is a deal for others it is not.
It's a deal that a store hands out and differs from their normal price.
If you don't think it's a good deal for you, totally fine, no need to bash a deal, as that does leave a bad feeling not just for the deal poster (who has the best intention) but also for the people who already purchased.

All I'm saying is keep the comments positive, as goes the old says: say something nice or nothing at all.
If you have constructive feedback, contact the posting person directly so they have a chance to improve.

Happy shopping

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  • John Kimble on 04/07/2019 - 12:00
    +3

    Examples?

    Just because people comment, doesn't mean they're angry?

    • Baysew on 04/07/2019 - 12:02
      +26

      These ones?

      • payton on 04/07/2019 - 16:37
        +4

        In Op's case, people weren't sympathetic because OP's deals sucked, weren't bargains, just undesirable products and clutter.

        • Whisper Quiet on 05/07/2019 - 12:23
          +3

          Yep looks like he's having a garage sale on Amazon. Now can't believe that people don't want any of his junk. Seems like he's telling ozbargainers not to ozbargain!

  • o53djz7qTPY4der on 04/07/2019 - 12:04
    +6

    I found a better post elsewhere online!!! [in my angry voice]

    • backpaqer on 05/07/2019 - 08:57
      +1

      SORRY CAN'T HEAR YOU!

      • mattyman on 05/07/2019 - 11:15
        +2

        A SENTENCE CONTAINING CAPITAL LETTERS!!!

        • Dean29 on 05/07/2019 - 12:02
          +2

          I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT

          • spackbace on 05/07/2019 - 13:12
            +1

            @Dean29: LOUD NOISES

            • wretyu on 05/07/2019 - 21:45

              @spackbace: CAPITAL LETTERS STAND OUT TO ME AND ARE QUICKER TO READ, SIMPLE LOGIC FOR ME!!!!!!!

              • reCAPTCHA on 06/07/2019 - 13:03

                @wretyu: WHAT IS HAPPENING??! CAN Y'ALL SPEAK UP, THE NEIGHBOUR HAS SOME LOUD MACHINE ON.

  • tsunamisurfer on 04/07/2019 - 12:07
    +16

    This site is about sharing of 1) Good deals, 2) Good Products, 3) Good experiences.

    If someone has posted a deal for Bananas for $1 and someone else has seen bananas for 50c, why can't they reply saying there is a better deal (refer to sharing above) ?

    Or alternatively if someone has a bad experience with the shop or the product? Why can't they say the product is cheap but sometimes rotten?

    It's not about attacking anyone and most replies are not 'angry'.

    The most 'angry' ones are reserved for the 'I had an accident but I forgot to buy insurance' or 'I bought a sold my video card by post on gumtree' and the seller hasn't paid me the agreed $1000 yet' thread.

    • neyo on 04/07/2019 - 12:56
      +5

      It's 2019, you have to be nice and consider the feelings of the person who posted the $1 'deal'.

      Participation awards for everyone

      • one man clan on 04/07/2019 - 15:10
        -1

        Common courtesy isn't a trait invented in 2019

        • neyo on 04/07/2019 - 20:42
          +4

          There's a difference between common courtesy and sugarcoating to the extent that it's counter productive.

          I was speaking to the latter.

          E.g. Upvoting a $1 deal when there is a 50c deal for the same item elsewhere. Then also not commenting that there is a better deal elsewhere so as to not hurt OPs feelings

  • spackbace on 04/07/2019 - 12:07
    +26

    Sorry but this isn't OzKindaACheapDeal is it?

    People complain, that it is cheaper somewhere else

    Well yes, that's the whole purpose of this site

    or that it is even a bad item

    Again, no one wants to spend money on a bad item

    If you have constructive feedback, contact the posting person directly so they have a chance to improve.

    No, the whole idea is it's public commenting to prevent prospective buyers from buying an overpriced, bad item

    Maybe this site and advertising medium isn't for you

    • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2019 - 12:08
      +10

      this site and advertising medium isn't for you

      FTFY. /Thread

      (The fixing was the need to bold and enlarge because it needs to be read as a primal roar).

    • npc on 04/07/2019 - 17:12

      Well written. @CanDealOnline - see there are positive comments too!

  • holdenmg on 04/07/2019 - 12:09
    +1

    I saw Ghostbusters II and I think they were onto something with the Psychomagnotheric Slime…

    • spackbace on 04/07/2019 - 12:14
      +1

      Psychomagnotheric

      I thought you were writing Prodigy lyrics there for a second :P

  • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2019 - 12:15
    +3

    Lot's of reasons.
    People can remain anonymous online and say things they would never say in public.
    No body language or audio tone to detect mood (eg. Sarcasm)
    Writing anything to get as many votes and replies as possible, rather than having a genuine interest (dopamine rush - some experts say this is the new crack!)

    I used to be in another forum decades ago where people would post photos of things, and strangers would give a flurry of praise and thoughtful and constructive comments. Times have changed.

    • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2019 - 12:21
      +3

      where people would post photos of things, and strangers would give a flurry of praise and thoughtful and constructive comments. Times have changed.

      MS paint diagram please.

      • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2019 - 14:20
        +3

        Might have been ratemystool. No diagrams please.

        • John Kimble on 04/07/2019 - 15:03
          +2

          ratemypoo has competition?!

          • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2019 - 16:38
            +2

            @John Kimble: ratemystool was the toilet bowl pioneer, circa 1998. Lycos, Alta Vista search engines, Mosaic web browser. Paletted images. Memories. Workplace amihotornot pranks.

            Cmon, Americans say poop, not poo.

            • Ozpit on 05/07/2019 - 10:37

              @[Deactivated]: “Poo” feels a little bit dirty. “Poop” is more friendly. “Pooper Scooper” is downright fun.

    • Cave Fire on 04/07/2019 - 13:48

      Technology was just coming in… So there was some respect for it. I see a lot more blatant racism than what I remember in 2005. Pre-Youtube I guess.

    • payton on 05/07/2019 - 10:53

      people would post photos of things, and strangers would give a flurry of praise … Times have changed.

      Yeah because it got boring

  • PinzVidz on 04/07/2019 - 12:15
    +4

    Why Are People So Angry

    Either they missed out on an epic OzB deal or read a comment from jv.

    • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2019 - 12:22
      +8

      After years of reading his comments, I still don't understand the reason for the hate.

      • PinzVidz on 04/07/2019 - 12:23
        +2

        Oh yes, I fully agree. OzBargain would be nothing without jv.

      • Godric on 04/07/2019 - 12:40
        +4

        I'm still hopefully one day I'll meet him and get my Ozb T-shirt signed with his autograph

        • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2019 - 12:41
          +1

          Be careful with that signed T-Shirt. Anything jv writes is a magnet.

      • payton on 05/07/2019 - 10:54
        +5

        the pro same sex marriage crowd targeted jv because of his/her opinion on the topic
        ie the usual, they preach inclusiveness and tolerance but actually are vicious, hateful people to anyone not sharing the mindset

        • [Deactivated] on 05/07/2019 - 13:22
          +1

          I find it a bit funny when SJWs say that diversity brings benefits to a workplace. Have they seen a newline bracket, tabs versus spaces coding standards argument? Makes the same sex marriage debate look like a tea party. The survey/referendum should have been for opening bracket position.

          • scotty on 09/07/2019 - 17:17

            @[Deactivated]:

            Have they seen a newline bracket, tabs versus spaces coding standards argument?

            Would it be workplace discrimination for belittling those who not only insisted on using Tab character, but also aligned tabs with 4 spaces?

        • sa-ozzie on 07/07/2019 - 00:20

          Absolutely true …the most vicious , nasty people on the left

        • try2bhelpful on 07/07/2019 - 01:16
          -1

          What absolute BS. The religious people were trying to tell some people they can’t have equality with the rest of us. This discrimination has been going on for Millenia; you want to talk about long term intolerance. They were discriminating against Gay people, when the issue had nothing to do with them. You really can’t get more hateful than that. As usual the right calls intolerance when they are being the ones being intolerant; they are only fooling themselves. I don’t think I have the right to tell religious people they can’t get married, they don’t get to tell gay people they can’t marry, it is as simple as that. Also using the term SJW makes you look unintelligent. It is just another right wing trope.

          • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2019 - 10:33
            +2

            @try2bhelpful: Do you try to look intelligent? The most important part about intelligence is that it can be freely demonstrated, so can I test yours? What do you see as the major shortcomings of AGM methods with quaternion fractal distance functions? Do you believe in marriages between people and bridges, rollercoasters, cartoon characters, a pillow or themself?

  • Caped Baldy on 04/07/2019 - 12:30
    +1

    Welcome to ozwhinge. There is a bit negative around and it leads to less deals being posted… In general there is a lot of stress and anxiety that gets passed on. Housing affordability, poor wage growth and paying for the oldies generations who caused many of the issues.

    • John Kimble on 04/07/2019 - 12:33
      +4

      Pretty sure whinging existed since the dawn of man. People have just become snowflakes.

      • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2019 - 12:39
        +6

        How dare you invalidate my feelings. I'm not a snowflake.

      • Caped Baldy on 04/07/2019 - 12:44

        +1 Yeah that's true. The world will be a better place if social media disappeared too.

    • PinzVidz on 04/07/2019 - 12:47
      +4

      Welcome to ozwhinge.

      AKA Whirlpool V2.0

      • Bid Sniper on 04/07/2019 - 13:15
        +2

        This, the original Australian a$$holes forum. Middle mangers wannabes making $100K+ and drive Falcons on LPG…

    • Illian on 04/07/2019 - 13:18
      -2

      Except the majority of ozbargain posters seem to be rich out of touch men, so I'm not sure why they would be complaining about that stuff.

      • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2019 - 16:08
        +1

        It's no coincidence that frugal/price conscious people tend to be wealthier.

        … or that the rich are fat, lazy and know nothing.

        • try2bhelpful on 06/07/2019 - 18:14

          Not sure that follows, however, a large number do inherit money from their parents. There are plenty of frugal/price conscious pensioners who will never be wealthy.

          • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2019 - 19:50
            +1

            @try2bhelpful:

            Not sure that follows, however, a large number do inherit money from their parents.

            What are the percentage of the wealthy that are wealthy because they've inherited money?

      • Cheaplikethebird on 06/07/2019 - 16:29

        I'm pretty sure it's at least 50% IT workers from my experience.

  • Fergy1987 on 04/07/2019 - 12:31
    +3

    DONT TELL ME HOW TO BARGAIN DAMMIT!!!! screams

  • Dack Smith on 04/07/2019 - 12:36
    +11

    People now feel super entitled to everything, have no sense of accountability or self control, very little common sense and want everything even if they can't afford or don't deserve it.

    And when they don't get what they want they get angry and behave like three year olds on too much coffee.

    This is the new Australia, all complaints, zero brains

    • Illian on 04/07/2019 - 13:19

      You can thank the LNP for that.

  • Godric on 04/07/2019 - 12:39
    +9

    Maybe your deals are just not good deals, maybe you can take that on as feedback as oppose to anything else

  • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2019 - 12:39
    +13

    there's a lot of a-holes on ozbargain. just like in real life!

    • Ozpit on 06/07/2019 - 10:19

      OzBargain is not real life?

      • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2019 - 10:20

        not until we are connected by electrodes in the brain for 0day bargains!

  • Ughhh on 04/07/2019 - 12:45
    +1

    as goes the old says: say something nice or nothing at all.

    So everything in life should be sugarcoated.

    Smoking is great, nothing to worry about.
    Drugs make you happy? So happy for you, keep it up.
    You earn minimum wage and want that lambo? Here's the perfect loan for you.

    Do agree that the approach of some maybe a bit mean, but it is the internet.

  • wannagrababargain on 04/07/2019 - 13:00
    +4

    I for one support the Angry Bargain Hunting methodology.

    • theHMASfriendship on 04/07/2019 - 13:44
      +1

      There can be no mercy granted in the pursuit of bargains.

  • frondono on 04/07/2019 - 13:00

    Outrage culture!

  • unco on 04/07/2019 - 13:14
    +6

    More like CantDealOnline amirite?

  • GG57 on 04/07/2019 - 13:38
    +10

    I think there is a difference in responses to deals posted by general OzB members, and those posted by 'Associated' / 'Marketing' members.

    When I review a post, I check if the deal is posted as what the OP considers to be a deal. Remembering that a general OzB member is taking their time and effort to share what they consider to be a deal. If that item can be found cheaper, or at a better quality level, or whatever, the feedback given is usually just that - feedback.

    If a post is purely an advertisement, OP's job is to get sales, regardless of the alternatives that are in the marketplace at a better price, or better quality, or whatever. In those cases, this community will highlight if good or not, sharing their knowledge.

    If the item posted is not of interest to me, I usually don't look at it unless it is gathering lots of votes and/or comments.

    • spackbace on 04/07/2019 - 13:43
      +4

      For sure

      There's more reason for me to neg vote a store rep (affects posting limits), than a standard member. I'll only neg vote a standard member to highlight something (cheaper price, issue with the store etc), but not to add to a barrage of neg votes.

    • try2bhelpful on 04/07/2019 - 14:12
      +9

      Yup, and that is how I ride as well. People need to breath before they reply and think about all the deals people wont post if they are attacked all the time. It takes 2s to bypass a deal you aren’t interested in. I’m more than happy for people to point out if the item I’m posting can be found cheaper elsewhere so I can look at the alternative, however, I also reserve the right to review the alternate deal based on the reputation of the provider and the convenience factor in using them. As we have seen on a number of occasions getting issues remedied with some online providers is problematic. What I do object to is the people who act like dicks when they do post the alternative or just make dick comments. I very rarely post deals nowadays because it just isn’t worth the hassle and, I suspect, I’m not alone in that. I do like the comedic replies if they are actually funny and clever. What I find baffling is telling someone who is doing you a favour to “harden up”; the reasonable response to that is just not bother posting anymore because it is abusive not constructive. The issue is not indicating there is a better deal out there just the manner of indicating it.

      • yolo123456789 on 04/07/2019 - 17:13

        Agree with you totally.

      • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2019 - 12:19
        +1

        Should they 'breath' or 'breathe'? You seemed concerned about appearing intelligent above.

    • Seraphin7 on 04/07/2019 - 14:35
      +5

      100% correct.

      When the post is effectively an advertisement, it deserves stricter critiquing than those that are simply a shared deal.

      • try2bhelpful on 04/07/2019 - 15:07
        +6

        Absolutely, an advertisement should be held to a higher standard. However, pointing out the alternatives should still be done in a civilised manner.

        • Seraphin7 on 04/07/2019 - 15:11
          +3

          Agreed.

        • Clear on 04/07/2019 - 16:52
          +4

          However, pointing out the alternatives should still be done in a civilised manner.

          That's where the community fail with associated members. They think it's an invitation to be an ass.

  • Bid Sniper on 04/07/2019 - 13:41

    Internet is a pretty toxic place in general, not unique to OZbargain, its just spillover bile IMO

  • TheBilly on 04/07/2019 - 14:47

    I disagree… The purpose of the comments section is for opinions to be published. Good or bad. OP needs to come somewhere back in the middle, too skewed to one spectrum.

  • Cheap Steve on 04/07/2019 - 14:56
    +2

    Mama says that Ozbargainers are angry because they got all them teeth but no toothbrush.

  • [Deactivated] on 04/07/2019 - 15:06
    +3

    I hate this saying

    say something nice or nothing at all

    It's pretty much another way of saying "I'm fragile, don't hurt my feelings". Toughen up, no one said the world is going to be nice to you.

    • try2bhelpful on 04/07/2019 - 15:12

      I think the phrase is wrong.

      It should be “if you can’t say something constructive, rather than abusive, the STFU.” This especially applies when someone is doing you a favour.

      There is another saying “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you”.

      • conza on 05/07/2019 - 08:24

        Then*. Then STFU.

        • try2bhelpful on 06/07/2019 - 05:22
          -1

          Yeah, I know. I saw it after I could edit it.

      • Ozpit on 05/07/2019 - 10:55

        The OzB dictum: Don’t feed the mouth that bites you.

  • npc on 04/07/2019 - 17:11

    Negative feedback is one of the most powerful drivers of improvement, once you learn to listen instead of fighting against it.

    If you post an average deal and people tell you about it you have 3 options:
    1. Recognise it and learn
    2. Start crying and never return to the internet
    3. Say that it hurts your feelings and call yourself a minority that must be treated equally better than everybody else

    • try2bhelpful on 05/07/2019 - 04:50

      I could write “you’re a dick and your opinion is worthless, how does this make you feel?”, but that would get me done for personal attacks. I think you need to look at my comment on constructive rather than abusive comments.

      • npc on 05/07/2019 - 08:11
        +3

        So sad you see the negative feedback exclusively as the personal attack.

        • try2bhelpful on 05/07/2019 - 14:39

          The problem is too much of it is a negative attack including your own post.. Have a reread of what you have posted. It has intolerance written all over it. No wonder some people are stepping back and not posting. There are ways of couching suggestions without being negative per se. Most people respond well to suggestions but metaphorically “hitting” them is not it. Yes, I would like people to learn to do better but the post they don’t put up could be a massive bargain. I got onto the round the world business class airfare deal for virgin and it was the gift that kept giving, including gold class membership in Virgin. If the person had decided not to bother I would’ve missed out on a great experience. Now, as I said above, provide useful feedback not an attack.

          • bobwokeup on 05/07/2019 - 14:56
            +1

            @try2bhelpful: Probably because of how so many people reply to posts! It’s not a negative attack when it’s not directed at a person…I personally try to avoid posting because of how people attack you.

            • try2bhelpful on 05/07/2019 - 15:13

              @bobwokeup: However, there are also too many people who use negative general comments and then complain “if you are offended it is your own problem” or “nothing personal”. Both of which are a massive crock. I’m more than willing to offer advice but I try to say it in a positive reinforcing way so people understand I’m trying to assist them rather than attack them. Telling people to harden up or suggesting they aren’t fit to be on the internet, because they object to negative comments made in judgemental terms, is not helpful. What npc wrote is not going to encourage people to post a deal for him. The problem with me posting is not so much the abuse, I mostly learn to ignore it, but I just don’t want to do people like that a favour. The problem is then people who aren’t like that miss out too. Please keep posting to help the non abusive people and I will try too.

  • AMLagonda on 04/07/2019 - 17:37
    +1

    Its not anger per say, its entitlement, some have a lot of it….

    • Speckled Jim on 05/07/2019 - 16:11

      It's not entitlement per se, it's pus-say, some have anger…

  • Cheaplikethebird on 04/07/2019 - 18:41
    +7

    I've said this before but the point of the comments section here is for people who aren't familiar with a product to gauge how much of a deal something is. We're preventing people from unnecessarily feeling a sense of urgency to buy items that are either poor quality or regularly at that price point.

    There are a lot of average deals that get posted on this site. It's fine, sometimes I just want to know what the cheapest price on an item is right now, but a lot of people get caught up spending money on deals that are average, for items they probably won't even use. I know I did a lot in my early years of browsing OzBargain.

    • Cheaplikethebird on 04/07/2019 - 18:53
      +4

      LOL just realised this is a REP. Get lost mate, offer better prices on better items. The site isn't here for you to get free advertising.

      • spackbace on 04/07/2019 - 19:07
        +5

        Well that escalated quickly! 😂

  • Hardlyworkin on 04/07/2019 - 19:46

    Tempura

  • conza on 05/07/2019 - 08:22

    By posting a better deal you're helping others participating in the market to not waste their money and continue to keep prices low, aiding competition.

    Of course people will and should be angry if a bad deal is presented, do you like being robbed? Do you like it even strangers are robbed? C'mon.

    • [Deactivated] on 05/07/2019 - 09:32
      +2

      Robbed? Lol.

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