Hi - looking to purchase my first car! Currently in the market for a 2019 Golf (Comfortline edition). EOFY sale is on - going for $29,990 drive away with 5 years warranty.
Has anyone bought one recently? Really keen to find out how much you guys think is an acceptable amount to push for when negotiating on a new car.
Also would you take a demo with < 5000k's if it saved you $2k?
How are these cars generally on petrol and are they reasonable to maintain?
Thanks so much!
BHHAHAHAHAAHA reality check
Lolz
At least he's taking uncle ozb's advice!
I feel slightly guilty about the Golf comment now
I think you need to take a break from the forums for a bit mate.
Why?
@magic8ballgag: Cheap laughs? No. I actually went to a decent amount of effort posting this comment for the OP without any input from them.
OP attacked repliers, hence that comment having a -24 score.
Not 'trawling' through their posts when it's on the first page. Not like there's many to go through.
So no, not cheap laughs, more like getting OP to wake up and have a good ole slice of humble pie.
@spackbace: To be fair, the OP did ask for a luxury car and the 'repliers' went out of their way to assume they should get a car suitable for a baby.
@spackbace: I did think at that time that it was a lot of effort you put for that list, infact I bookmarked your comment for future reference..
😂
lolll nice find
I bought it last year with the 1.99% finance deal. I paid $33,500 for fully loaded brand new MY18.5 silver comfortline with 5 yr warranty. I think I paid around $1k for 5 year extended warranty but now it's included in the price.
They saw you coming then… :D
Why do you say that? Because they didn't buy an OzBargain special? cough used Camry cough.
Don't forget it has to be the hybrid base model, filled up with discounted fuel from 7/11 and serviced using groupon vouchers/DIY.
May I ask how’s your car been since your purchase? Any major of minor issue and what have been VW customer support like? I’m looking to purchase MY20 Highline soon
I have had no issues whatsoever. I'm sure you'll enjoy it very much.
VW Artarmon is my servicing dealer. Surprisingly, very happy with them as well.
I bought a Trendline with DAP for a really good price a couple of months ago. I won't disclose the price as the discount was honoured due to the connections I had.
Whirlpool is a good place to get an idea of what sort of prices you could get: https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/thread/9j5m75z3?p=4
May I ask how’s your car been since your purchase? Any major of minor issue and what have been VW customer support like? I’m looking to purchase MY20 Highline soon
Just buy a 2013 model, you couldn't tell the difference between that and one sitting at the dealership. The 2013 model might be on its last legs though.
… and the OP is looking for a car on first legs.
Also would you take a demo with < 5000k's if it saved you $2k?
No - for me, that's not a big enough difference between new and used (yes, demo is used). You could prob negotiate some or all of that $2k off the new car or negotiate a lower driveaway price on the demo.
Yep sorry I meant 2k after the negotiated value of the used.
Then I would pay the extra $2k to get brand new. (Given the difference you've said is "final", Im pretty confident you could still negotiate more off the demo - if that's what you want).
yeah i'd prob just pay the extra 2k to get a new one…how long has it been a demo for - because if it's like 5 months does that eat into the 5 year warrantry?
also ppl rev engines etc in demo cars, i guess unless if you plan to sell it in 2-3 years id just go with a new one,…if you're going for a demo just buy a compeltely second hand car with 20k on it for much cheaper, at least you still have the warrantry
e.g. https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Volkswagen-Golf-201…
because if it's like 5 months does that eat into the 5 year warrantry?
Yes it does. It's a used car.
also ppl rev engines etc in demo cars
The reason to never buy a demo.
Yes it does. It's a used car.
No, it doesn't. ACCC changed that about 2yrs ago from memory. Manufacturer's warranty starts from delivery, assuming it is a genuine demo (ie you're the first owner in the book), and the car hasn't been on-sold to the dealer.
also ppl rev engines etc in demo cars
Lol there's always a salesperson in the car and most people drive cautiously as they're not used to the new car.
And I'm yet to see a salesperson hoon around in something like a standard Golf.
@spackbace: Maybe not a standard golf but a turbo hot hatch type of vehicle probably gets revved up outside of manufacturers driving in recommendations.
Family member got a discount on a demo VW Tiguan with ~50kms on the clock a few years ago. They made a few visits to the dealership over a period of a few months (always with a apprehensive attitude).
They got offered a different demo every time they went (must have been selling them) always with more kms, then the final visit VW offered the ~50kms demo in the specific colour they wanted and they bought it on the spot.
Discount was around $3k if I remember correctly, and it seemed as if they were so desperate to make a sale, they pulled a demo out of nowhere.
Apparently they had to drive it down from another dealership far far away, and that basically must of made up for 20km of the 50kms on odometer.
Note: They also sold their previous vehicle in private sale for $7-$8K so they were happy with the outcome.
lucky you! it sounds like they just gave you a new car, without admitting it was a new car! haha
Yes I think that was the case.
I think in this case being fussy pays off, the colour can be an important factor for people.
And in said family members case they must have chosen an ‘unpopular’ colour.
So the other demo’s were passable no matter the discount.
Once realising this dealer most likely pulled one out of the hat and said ‘here a demo model in your colour’.
I think your definition of "far far away," 20km, and mine differ by a fair margin.
It may have been further, my memory is very poor. I just remember odometer was definitely under 100.
Also it seems further when others drive off on the spot, and you are told to wait a week or so until the car gets to the dealership.
Lying in a hospital bed and having to reach 1.5 m for a cup of tea is “far, far away”. Walking 2 km to buy a Coke is “far, far away”. Driving 200 km to buy an OzBargain car battery is “far, far away”. Flying to the other side of Australia for a Tinder date is “far, far away”.
Not sure what I’m trying to say here.
@Ozpit: Depends on the reward.
Flying to the other side of Australia for a Tinder date is “far, far away”.
If you get laid, the distance wouldn't matter.
@RSmith: You also might get stabbed, but YMMV
Anyhow, how is 200km to buy a ozB battery a long way? I bet half of us would at least consider it… 'Is there someone near there I can visit…'
@resisting the urge: Tread carefully. You are getting very close to: drive 200km to get a free pair of Mickey Mouse oven mittens.
@resisting the urge: Shoulda said 200km there, and 200km back. 400km of fuel and the good part of a day to save what… let’s say $80? Some would do it, I guess.
“Far, far away” is a state of mind, and one that is not always equal among OzBs; and some being far more unequal than others.
@Ozpit: Distance is just another relative term.
And don't forget that our passage through the time-space continuum can sometimes be bent in your favour by interstellar objects on their own interplanetary journeys
But of course, once you have the math calculated, don't forget to consider other fqactors such as whether there are relatives you need to visit, or relatives you really need to avoid
@resisting the urge: Yes, it goes without saying that Einstein’s ‘Theory of Relativity’ goes hand-in-hand with his ‘Theory of Relatives’.
It may be worth mentioning it was base model, front parking sensors as only option. With floor mats thrown in for free (they always comply with this one 100% success rate).
With floor mats thrown in for free
Usually these come free with a car these days anyway?
@serpserpserp: From memory on they usually charge a few hundred dollars (something like $500 way more than they are worth).
Agreed. $2k is not enough is it has over 1000KM on it.
I just got a My19 highline with leather and sunroof on the 1.99% finance deal for 34K DA. Bloody good car very impressed and the interior looks up market compared to its competitors.
Thanks mate! Still tossing up between this and the comfortline.
Throw the GTi into the mix too
I'd chalk out for the adaptive cruise; It's absolutely magical on the highway.
enjoy it mate. they are great cars
May I ask how’s your car been since your purchase? Any major of minor issue and what have been VW customer support like? I’m looking to purchase MY20 Highline soon. Also did you buy the vehicle early 2019 or around EOFY
We use this as company car (mk7 golf comfortline).
It's been reliable. One of them had the typical dry clutch problems but replaced under warranty.
Prefer the Corolla for linear power delivery and brakes. The Golf has a bit more too end power (or at least the feel of).
Nice fit and finish on the Golf considering the budget price tag. Real world fuel economy not far from advertised.
Comment above you must mean ‘low-end’ power.
OP: considered a Skoda?
Why would you buy a Golf now? Mk8 is due next year, and the current model isn't in run-out yet.
I wish I didn't need a car now.
Every other C segment car on the market from Corolla, Mazda3, i30 to Focus got a recent update. Shop there first, even if you don't think those badges are 'luxurious' enough.
It's the worst time to buy a Golf because it'll be outclassed by Mk8 in a year, but not cheap enough without run-out sales.
I got a comfortline last month, negotiated to $28,600 inc. metallic paint and black slimline plates. They had a 2018 demo with ~4k on the clock for $25.6k; for the extra $3k a new car and new model is a no brainer.
Car is amazing though, quite fuel efficient and has the grunt. Can't fault anything with it.
I wouldn't go near a VW, a Skoda, or an Audi. The horror stories of poor after-sales service are mind boggling - have they sorted out all the DCT issues? "replaced under warranty" is a miracle - a mate of mine had to take his car back 4 times, each time they said they fixed it with a software update, or whatever, and each time it was no better. They finally agreed to change it (after he showed them forum posts).
Anyway, they're on the lemon list from John Cadogen - https://autoexpert.com.au/posts/ultimate-lemon-list-the-top-… and he despises VW almost as much as I do - watch a few of his VW videos and listen to some of his stories.
Don't do it - you will regret it.
May I ask what you drive?
Mazda 3 - look, everyone has their opinions - mine is VW just really isn't worth it. Cadogen has had a lot of experience of all the car brands in Australia, and he clearly has them towards the bottom of the list (along with Jeep, Fiat, Chrysler, etc.)
I get people need confirmation they bought (or want to buy) a good car - a VW is not it, regardless of which model. You absolutely owe it to yourself to take a whole range of other brands for a test drive. The value-for-money isn't there with VW like it is with the Korean or Japanese brands.
Have you done your due diligence and taken comparables out for test drives? Have you compared the features of the top contenders? VW are seriously renown for bad after-sales service. If you don't have any issues, that's great news. If you do though, it's double-bad-luck.
Yet, when we were looking for cars everyone that we talked to (friends, family, work friends, people we didnt know) that owned a Golf raved about them and recommended them fully. I dont know why - but we didnt get this with any other car brand / make that we were looking at???
We bought a golf and we love it. And fully recommend it to anyone that is looking in the market
Yet, when we were looking for cars everyone that we talked to (friends, family, work friends, people we didnt know) that owned a Golf raved about them and recommended them fully.
Different types of people. VW are just poorer Merc/BMW drivers, they drive it for the badge. Of course they'd rave about it.
I drive it to get from point A to B - IDGAF about the badge and it was priced at the same as all the other cars we looked at
I was concerned about this when purchasing mine last month, but these issues seem to be related to the 6 speed gearboxes, no widespread issues with the 7 speed that have been in circulation for ~2 years
No, the issues were with the 7 speed dry clutch DSG in the earlier Polos and Golfs. The later ones in the last couple of years seem to have less issues. Relatively few issues with the 6 speed wet clutch DSG which are in the higher powered cars like the GTI, Octavia RS, Golf R etc.
What about the manuals?
Agree with you. My 12 A6 has a 7sp wet DSG and it's shocking. Just had to pay $1.5k to fix part of it and to learn the clutch packs and mechatronics are on their way out.
I'd never buy a DSG again - even if the later ones are much better.
Have a mechanical workshop in Sydney and can say they don't last for ever.
But in saying that I bought a golf R last year ex demo. Saved $10k off list price ($5k off the deals at the time) with 5 year warranty.
Have owned many new and used cars over the years, and this is hands down the best car I have ever had.
If you don't plan on keeping it for 10+ years go for it.
My brother has a golf. It's always having issues. lel
Like what
I have a golf (which I happen to be selling, but it's an R so I won't push my sale).
It runs great, no issues at all and a year old. What issues has your brother got? How old is it?
There are a lot of Golf's on the road, so they can't be all that bad!
How do you go from wanting a luxury car to buying a vw golf?! 😕
Budget was 30k upwards…this is 30k
As for luxury - I think I used the wrong term. Just wanted different options - didn't really know what I was after.
Yes I think you used the wrong term.
Volkswagen is considered the Toyota of Germany.
Also ‘Volkswagen’ roughly translates to ‘People’s car’.
Thanks marge
Also ‘Volkswagen’ roughly translates to ‘People’s car’.
And it will be rather interesting to explain "who" coin that term.
Hint: he was Austrian, dark hair, ex-army, politician, died in 1945 in Berlin, Germany.
But I digress…
Going back to your Volkswagen: Golf is no longer the best and first, the new (2019) Polo is about same size, cheaper and more modern.
The new Polo is now the former Golf.
My "guess" is that the good old Golf will evolve to the eGolf or a fully fully electric Golf. One version of such sold in the UK since yonks.
@LFO: Yes new Polo is same dimensions as Golf 7, except length & wheelbase +20cm for Golf. Most likely this all translates to more rear-legroom which is quite important I think.
So although size is similar, I think Polo still translates to a ‘City car’, and Golf is still having its ‘small-car’ designation. I’m sure this is intended by VW when designing new Polo.
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Very fuel efficient. But don't expect reliability even with routine maintenance.
Not sure about your definition of reliability.
It is a very good car.
Not a truck, it is to be treated as a city car. Not a truck. Not a high performance. Not a van.
Is it abnormal to expect a city car to not develop an engine leak, and transmission problems within the first 3 years of ownership? That's what happened to my gold despite being serviced on time regularly. It is a very good car indeed when it works.
Mk7 MY16 Golf Owner here: Car is 3.5 Years old, has done 35k's.
No issues except for a loose clip on a plastic interior panel on the B-Pillar when we bought the car- fixed under warranty. No mechanical issues.
800km easily achievable on a tank of fuel. I've gotten up to over 900km on one tank doing a long drive down a freeway.
@Buckshot: Engines are crazy efficient. They are way a head of Japanese manufacturers in that department. Low displacement turbo charged engines with direct injection - everyone thought they were mad. Honda didn't even have direct injection until a few years ago.
@mordinhoz: True that.. one of the few cars where the advertised Fuel consumption sticker is accurate!
@mordinhoz: Disagree.
The 1.4T on the Audi A1 used to run 9l/100k, city driving. S3's 2.0T sits at 9.5-10.5l/100k. 3.0t diesel on the Q7 @ 15l/100km.
My current Mazda 2.0l skyactiv average from 6-6.8l/100km city driving. First car ever that is able to achieve what's on the sticker, or occasionally better than claimed.
@[Deactivated]: Those are terrible numbers. I achieved 6l/100km on my 1.4T. My corolla of the same year averages 7.2/100km in the same conditions.
So much for Best Luxury Car