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Toshiba 12TB SATA 512e 3.5" 7200RPM Enterprise HDD $184.31 Delivered @ Newegg

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Jase2801 on 04/06/2019 - 11:52 newegg.com (5055 clicks)

Read some reviews and found out that you get 10.9TB after formatting. Still a great price!!

Toshiba 12TB SATA 3.5" Enterprise HDD
SATA3 6.0Gb/s, 7200RPM
512e Persistent Write Cache Technology
Innovative 9-disk Helium-Sealed Design
3.5" Form Factor, 26.1mm height

The MG07ACA Series utilizes Toshiba precision laser welding technology to seal helium inside the 9-disk mechanics for the life of the drive. The helium-sealed design reduces aerodynamic drag to deliver a lower operational power profile, helping to achieve TCO objectives for cloud-scale and software-defined data center infrastructure. The MG07ACA Enterprise Capacity SATA HDD provides up to 14TB of conventional magnetic recording (CMR) capacity and 7,200 rpm performance. The industry-standard 3.5-inch form-factor integrates easily into cloud-scale storage infrastructure, business-critical servers and storage, and File and Object storage solutions. Includes Toshiba Persistent Write Cache Technology for Data-Loss Protection in Sudden Power-Loss Events.

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Isabelle W.Jun 4, 2019, 11:33am
Hello Jason. Thanks for the item link. may I have a moment to check it for you?

Jason Jun 4, 2019, 11:35am
ok thank you

Isabelle W.Jun 4, 2019, 11:38am
Thank you for holding. After checking, I show the price of the item is correct, it is the same price as I check in our system.

Jason Jun 4, 2019, 11:39am
Thanks can i confirm the capacity is 12tb and not refurb product

Isabelle W.Jun 4, 2019, 11:41am
You are welcome. Yes, durning, checking, the item is a brandnew one and it showsToshiba 12TB SATA 3.5" Enterprise HDD on our webiste. The item should be the exact same as the info shows on our website.

Jason Jun 4, 2019, 11:42am
Great thank you for confirming that.

Isabelle W.Jun 4, 2019, 11:42am
My pleasure. Do you have other concerns?

Jason Jun 4, 2019, 11:43am
No thank you

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  • isthisreallife22 on 04/06/2019 - 11:54

    Anyone researched to see how this compares with a NAS red drive from WD or Seagate?

  • phoenx on 04/06/2019 - 11:56
    +7

    what? this seems crazy cheap. these should be going for $700+
    pricing error?

    • [Deactivated] on 04/06/2019 - 14:26
      +4

      More like around 400 dollars.

  • scrimshaw on 04/06/2019 - 11:59
    +6

    Nice. And i thought paying $236 for the 8TB Toshiba was a good deal…

    Now I have to work out if I actually need this.

  • crazyperpman on 04/06/2019 - 12:00

    Insufficient quantity

  • spackbace on 04/06/2019 - 12:01
    +4

    Read some reviews and found out that you get 10.9TB after formatting

    I believe that's the whole kb>TB conversion isn't it? My 10TB came to 9.09TB, but 10,000,000kb or similar

    • scuderiarmani on 04/06/2019 - 12:02
      +13

      Yes, not sure why he's mentioning it at all. Every hard drive, ever, isn't the capacity they list.

      • Jase2801 on 04/06/2019 - 12:05
        +10

        I'm a newb lol. Anyway just putting it out there for newbs like me :)

      • JMC on 04/06/2019 - 13:48
        +2

        To be fair on the manufacturer, they are using the correct definition of gigabyte and terabyte when they rate drive capacity (powers of ten). It's the fact that Windows and other software uses powers of two (gibibytes etc) while incorrectly calling them GB and TB which causes confusion.

        • Harold Halfprice on 04/06/2019 - 16:59
          +4

          To be fair, HDD manufacturers get to put a bigger number on the box if they use base10. They're technically correct, but they know what they're doing.

          Who is and isn't correct depends on what standard you choose to define what is and isn't correct. Windows isn't incorrect for using base2. It's correct according to JEDEC standard 100B.01. MB vs MiB etc weren't even a thing until 1999.

          Now if someone states MB you can't really be certain what they mean. MiB might be defined by the IEC, but it hasn't really taken off, it sounds a bit silly and it's not commonly used.

          Then once you start throwing upper and lower case into the mix (kB, KB, Kb, kb) it becomes even more confusing. Thankfully there is now a single definitive standard.

        • Antikythera on 04/06/2019 - 21:13
          +2

          it was the HDD manufacturers who lobbied to have the standard definitions changed in 1999. after they had had legal actions against them for deceptive advertising.

          before then
          KB = 2^10 = 1024
          MB = 2^20 = 1024^2
          GB = 2^30 = 1024^3
          TB = 2^40 = 1024^4

          but those are named MiB, GiB and TiB now.

          only since 1999
          KB = 10^3 = 1000
          MB = 10^6 = 1000^2
          GB = 10^9 = 1000^3
          TB = 10^12 = 1000^4

          • JMC on 04/06/2019 - 21:47
            -1

            @Antikythera: The HDD manufacturers had the more sensible position, though. Kilogram, kilometre, kilopascal, kilonewton, kilovolt etc are all 10^3. It was weird and inconsistent having a unit which used the SI prefix but was defined as the nearest power of two.

            • This Guy on 05/06/2019 - 23:04

              @JMC: Bit's and bytes are in base 2, not base 10.

              It is weird and practically useless to have a prefix for a base two number system defined by powers of ten in base ten.

              The only reason to define byte's and bit's SI prefix as a power of 10 is to short change customers.

        • Scantu on 04/06/2019 - 22:11
          +4

          Incorrectly only if you don't do computer science… It's so bloody annoying when people use the powers of ten measurement. It's meaningless with respect to computers - gibibytes is the only actually accurate way to measure things

    • scud70 on 04/06/2019 - 12:02

      Yep sure is…..

    • FireRunner on 04/06/2019 - 12:15
      +8

      1TB according to computer = 1024^4 bytes ~ 1.1 x 10^12 bytes
      1TB according to manufacturer = 1000^4 bytes = 1 x 10^12 bytes
      12TB / 1.1 = 10.9TB.

      • flywire on 04/06/2019 - 20:22
        +1

        GST

  • scud70 on 04/06/2019 - 12:01

    Yup as i was about to check out… oh well :*(

  • semice on 04/06/2019 - 12:01

    all sold out :)

  • isthisreallife22 on 04/06/2019 - 12:03

    Damn

  • reacher on 04/06/2019 - 12:04
    +1

    damn.. was about to check out and get removed…

  • wrx5 on 04/06/2019 - 12:04
    +1

    Just consider this info. This HDD is 512e (emulation model) not native 4K version. Here is the info from wiki and Toshiba website link

    https://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/us/product/storage-produ…

    512e

    Many host computer hardware and software components assume the hard drive is configured around 512-byte sector boundaries. This includes a broad range of items including chipsets, operating systems, database engines, hard drive partitioning and imaging tools, backup and file system utilities as well as a small fraction of other software applications. In order to maintain compatibility with legacy computing components, many hard disk drive suppliers support Advanced Format technologies on the recording media coupled with 512-byte conversion firmware. Hard drives configured with 4096-byte physical sectors with 512-byte firmware are referred to as Advanced Format 512e, or 512 emulation drives.

    Potential areas using 512-byte-based code
    The translation of the 4096-byte physical format to a virtual 512-byte increment is transparent to the entity accessing the hard disk drive. Read and write commands are issued to Advanced Format drives in the same format as legacy drives. However, during the read process, the Advanced Format hard drive loads the entire 4096-byte sector containing the requested 512-byte data into memory located on the drive. The emulation firmware extracts and re-formats the specific data into a 512-byte chunk before sending the data to the host. The entire process typically occurs with little or no degradation in performance.

    The translation process is more complicated when writing data that is either not a multiple of 4K or not aligned to a 4K boundary. In these instances, the hard drive must read the entire 4096-byte sector containing the targeted data into internal memory, integrate the new data into the previously existing data and then rewrite the entire 4096-byte sector onto the disk media. This operation, known as read-modify-write (RMW), can require additional revolution of the magnetic disks, resulting in a perceptible performance impact to the system user. Performance analysis conducted by IDEMA and the hard drive vendors indicates that approximately five to ten percent of all write operations in a typical business PC user environment may be misaligned and a RMW performance penalty incurred.[20][21]

    When using Advanced Format drives with legacy operating systems, it is important to realign the disk drive using software provided by the hard disk manufacturer. Disk realignment is necessary to avoid a performance degrading condition known as cluster straddling where a shifted partition causes filesystem clusters to span partial physical disk sectors. Since cluster-to-sector alignment is determined when creating hard drive partitions, the realignment software is used after partitioning the disk. This can help reduce the number of unaligned writes generated by the computing ecosystem. Further activities to make applications ready for the transition to Advanced Format technologies are being spearheaded by the Long Data Sector Committee and the hard disk drive manufacturers.[22][23][needs update]

    4K native

    Advanced Format 4K native logo
    For hard disk drives working in the 4K native mode, there is no emulation layer in place, and the disk media directly exposes its 4096, 4112, 4160, or 4224-byte physical sector size to the system firmware and operating system. That way, the externally visible logical sectors organization of the 4K native drives is directly mapped to their internal physical sectors organization. Since April 2014, enterprise-class 4K native hard disk drives have been available on the market.[24][25]

    Readiness of the support for 4 KB logical sectors within operating systems differs among their types, vendors and versions.[12] For example, Microsoft Windows supports 4K native drives since Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012 (both released in 2012),[26] and Linux supports 4K native drives since the Linux kernel version 2.6.31 and util-linux-ng version 2.17 (released in 2009 and 2010, respectively).[27][28]

    The color version of the logo indicating a 4K native drive is somewhat different from the 512e logo, featuring four rounded corners, a blue background, and text "4Kn" at the center of the logo.[29]

    • The Value on 04/06/2019 - 12:08
      +6

      TLDR?

      • chymb on 04/06/2019 - 12:13
        +4

        TLDR: It’s fantastic, great value, will make you happier than you’ve ever been but not perfect so stay away.

        • The Value on 04/06/2019 - 12:15

          I see

          PS. I should of said "ELI5" instead.

          • quanticism on 04/06/2019 - 12:40
            +4

            @The Value: From what I understand.
            If you use the drive with a "legacy" OS that doesn't support 4KB sectors, there will be a performance hit when writing data.
            If you use the drive with Windows 8 or later, there is no performance hit.
            If you use another OS, you should probably check if it supports 4K sectors.

      • djlongy on 04/06/2019 - 15:03
        +4

        Basically it's 512-byte sectors on the platter. (which 99% of consumer hard disks are)
        So when you format a disk in Windows, usually the smallest cluster size is 4096 bytes (4KB).
        So, when writing something like a 1GB movie file to a disk, it has to write 512 bytes multiple times to full one cluster of 4KB, which means more work for the hdd. This actually is more space efficient because if you have small files they can only take up a minimum of 512bytes. Where as on a 4KB cluster, the minimum space for a single file is 4KB, even if the file is only 6bytes big. There would be a file slack space of 4090 bytes wasted that can't be used by any other file because it's 4KB cluster size.

        But, where this accels is when there are large media files or SQL 4KB databases where each write is 4KB, the disks only need to write 4KB blocks instead of 512bytes to fill up a 4KB block.

        Basically 4KB sectors on a disk in addition to 4KB formatted NTFS filesystem matches 1:1 for every cluster written.
        512Bytes on a 4KB formatted NTFS, the disk performance is less efficient when read/writing, but space usage is actually more efficient for the Operating System.

        TLDR, unless you're running SQL Server optimised for 4K writes or storing huge media/video files 4K isn't going to offer much to the everyday user.

        • The Value on 04/06/2019 - 15:09
          +6

          Perfect. I recently deleted all my 1080p content and have began transitioning to 4k.

    • havebeerbelywillsumo on 04/06/2019 - 15:17

      In plain speak (no disrespect to any poster) does this (512e/4K formatting) have any implication for a PC running win 7 pro 64 with latest service packs installed. Tried to find a clear answer but couldn't. Was working on the idea that my win 7 is unlimited concerning drive sizes, is this still the case?

  • phoenx on 04/06/2019 - 12:04

    did anyone get any?
    I should have been more decisive! might have been able to finish my order if I wasn't so busy not believing the price.

    • Jase2801 on 04/06/2019 - 12:07

      I managed to get one after 2min's of posting the deal. Stock would have been low at that price.

      • chriise on 04/06/2019 - 14:03

        Am i missing something? Appears in stock for me with $170.66 AUD delivered. I've not used Newegg before…

        • OZBMate8911 on 04/06/2019 - 14:12
          +1

          I'm in the same boat…lets me get up to billing then tells me it isn't available?

          • chriise on 04/06/2019 - 14:23

            @OZBMate8911: Ah fair enough, i didn't go as far as billing - i knew i must have been missing something and couldn't be bothered to create an account

  • honkas on 04/06/2019 - 12:05

    Oh man!! That was quick!! I wanted 6..

  • wrx5 on 04/06/2019 - 12:06

    Seems like Only 1 can be ordered at a time and $50 delivery fee per HDD in that case

    • honkas on 04/06/2019 - 12:07

      Knew they were going to get ozbargained! So must've capped it..

    • The Value on 04/06/2019 - 12:28
      +4

      I managed to get 2 for $316 shipped.

      Edit. Shipping was $50 total for both.

      • giovannip on 04/06/2019 - 17:16

        keep us posted (pun intended)

  • Mechz on 04/06/2019 - 12:08

    Almost got one…next time.

  • giovannip on 04/06/2019 - 12:12
    +4

    Damn, 20 minutes off ozb and this happens. I have been holding off buying drives for ages and missed the Amazon deal, now this!

  • AEKaBeer on 04/06/2019 - 12:13
    +2

    It let me add to cart and I got excited… Sad now.

    😀

  • redhaze1 on 04/06/2019 - 12:15

    I just had a look and it says it's in stock… Oh, the problem appears when you add to cart.

    Edit: NOW it says out of stock on the item listing.

  • Homr on 04/06/2019 - 12:16
    +3

    ahhhh bugger, called in to some useless meeting at work and then this happens. :(

  • Kontiki on 04/06/2019 - 13:01

    Damn, this could be a really nice archiving disk for video projects.

  • tellhimhesdreaming on 04/06/2019 - 13:03
    +1

    Gahhhh, that'll teach me for doing work at work and missing out on this

  • GoodDealDave on 04/06/2019 - 13:14
    +1

    I owned HGST 4TB 7.2K RPM HDD, a solid drive. Only concern is its power consumption and higher temperature. I may put a 5.4K or lower RPM drive for a 24/7 NAS build.

    • AEKaBeer on 04/06/2019 - 14:11

      There's a 3w difference between 5400 and 7200, imperceptible on power bill unless you're running 100+ in an array with no power saving features enabled. Temps are a little higher but these drives are helium filled so lower temps and wattage used compared to conventional HDDs. This is due to the reduced load on the servos from less friction against the spinning platters in a sealed helium environment.

    • Agret on 05/06/2019 - 17:13

      Wouldn't recommend a 5400 in a NAS. Rebuilds will take forever.

  • Felixrising on 04/06/2019 - 13:22
    +1

    Damn you backblaze!

  • playswithfire on 04/06/2019 - 13:45

    dammit I was in a meeting… I need 2 of these!!

  • lasertip on 04/06/2019 - 14:13
    +1

    Looks like its back in stock again… but I just can't justify buying 4 of these when my 4 x 1TB drives are not even at 50% capacity

    • OZBMate8911 on 04/06/2019 - 14:15
      +1

      Says in stock but can't be checked out.

      • BarneyKB on 04/06/2019 - 15:08

        Yeah I tried refreshing constantly and couldn't get to work even when it said in stock :(

  • DKZ370 on 04/06/2019 - 14:16

    It was just back in stock…. and then gone again! :(

  • hollykryten on 04/06/2019 - 14:39
    -2

    100% was a pricing error in the system. They just don't sell a 12TB hard drive for any where near that price.

    That live chat knew nothing. That wasn't the right price.

  • Illian on 04/06/2019 - 14:43

    Damn I also missed it! I have close to 20TB of data and just had a mechanical failure yesterday, lost a whole 2TB+ of data on a 4TB drive and have to rebuild from scratch. Thankfully it was just my anime drive, which is arguably the easiest to rebuild, and I had just made a copy of it's perfectly named/organised directory in a word document so I know exactly what was on there. This would have been perfect as I'm planning to change over to 10TB HDD's next year so I can keep a backup exactly for situations like this, just can't afford to any time soon.

    • hollykryten on 04/06/2019 - 14:44
      -2

      It has to be truly a pricing error. It wouldn't have even got shipped out to you.

      • Jase2801 on 05/06/2019 - 21:32
        +1

        It's shipped ;)

  • AlienC on 04/06/2019 - 15:56

    Needed a few for a steam drive.

    Wanted to install my entire or maybe 75 percent of my steam games on my machine.

    My 8TB is already at 90 percent capacity.

  • naphman on 04/06/2019 - 16:19
    +3

    Nooooo I’ve missed the WD’s and now this! While my 4tb is failing in my 6x drive array. 3 of these would have blown it away!!!!

    (Fully aware it’ll be a pricing error - but like being stuck in an elevator for hours with Scarlett Johansson just us two - I can dream)

  • luffyex2010 on 04/06/2019 - 17:31

    Damn needed these

  • foolsgold on 04/06/2019 - 17:32

    Damn this was cheap.

    • hollykryten on 04/06/2019 - 18:16
      -2

      Because of a pricing error. It can be nothing else.

  • barneyn on 04/06/2019 - 17:38
    +1

    Noooo missed this!!! I should have checked obz sooner >"<

  • Fatboy74 on 04/06/2019 - 18:41
    +2

    Thanks. Managed to get 2 just after original post came up. Fingers crossed it comes through. Thanks OP.

    • hollykryten on 04/06/2019 - 19:07
      +5

      You didn't get 2. You made an order for 2. You get when the product is in your hands.

      • Fatboy74 on 04/06/2019 - 19:09

        Thanks Holly.

      • Fatboy74 on 05/06/2019 - 13:41
        +2

        Dispatched!

        • BarneyKB on 05/06/2019 - 13:49

          Nice! Although now i'm even more annoyed I missed out on this deal…

        • Jase2801 on 05/06/2019 - 16:38
          +1

          Mine too :) So you ended up paying $158 each. Nice. I should have bought 2. Oh Well!

  • xdivino on 11/06/2019 - 15:11

    Got mine delivered today.
    Recieved a 1TB external instead of a 12TB internal drive.
    Refund now will probably be a hassle. Will be very upset if I don't get the full amount back for their stuff up.

    • Jase2801 on 11/06/2019 - 15:35

      What 1TB that is crap. Sorry mate.

      • xdivino on 11/06/2019 - 16:25

        yeah and I read they dont refund the shipping, well they better since it was $50 to ship the wrong thing.. .so annoying…

        • Jase2801 on 11/06/2019 - 18:55

          Bloody shifty NEWEGG. I received a 1TB Toshiba portable hard drive. WTF!!

        • O O on 12/06/2019 - 17:06
          +1

          If you pay by PayPal, you can claim $45 postage back. Well, you still need to cough up $5.

        • The Value on 13/06/2019 - 21:07

          Just started a return request, it was free via DHL.

    • The Value on 13/06/2019 - 11:17

      2 X 1tb portables here :(

      • xdivino on 13/06/2019 - 11:45

        What a stuff up on their behalf
        Hopefully get return confirmations soon
        Really annoying

  • Jase2801 on 17/06/2019 - 17:34

    I received a refund without returning the 1TB hard drive. Did anyone else get a refund?

    • xdivino on 18/06/2019 - 15:04

      oh man, that makes me mad.
      I'm now fighting them about the shipping costs for their stuff up.

    • ihfree on 19/06/2019 - 23:17
      +1

      Sending the item back via DHL with postage label. Two customer service reps have advised i'll be getting a full refund.

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