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Mmm, the link goes to the product on amazon.com.au?
no the product is sold via.com with completely different terms and conditions including returns.
these are also varied by .au whenever it suits.
I've had amazing service from Amazon US in the past. Reimbursed postage and refund after 3 years when the item failed. Plus they gave it to me in US dollars so I ended up making around $150 more than what I should have. There's an option on the site to get the customer service rep to call you for free for international orders.
@Whisper Quiet: Unfortunately you don't get that option when buying through amazon.au, only when buying direct from .com.
I have explained that fact many times but clearly you think you get the same protections when buying through .au.
I have recommended buying through.com directly when they actually ship to au. for the perks including being able to talk to .com directly when necessary but clearly people don't get you can't talk to the seller, only .au, which is an issue.
so you're saying that you can get .com to ring you about an order you placed via.au even though your account is an .au one? That doesn't sound like that would work?
@petry: You have no idea what you're talking about! Its a customer service line that you click for any international orders including if you've bought from Amazon AU international. Maybe because I have both accounts there is the option for me… Amazon AU was automatically setup for me when it started as the account was transferred over with all details. So don't say that they're completely different. I've even done it for Havaiana slippers (AU international order that were the wrong size) I don't know why you're saying that Amazon US and Aus are so different. We've all proved to you that both regions are fantastic with warranty and customer service. Did you have an issue and weren't allowed a return? Obviously because of your own fault, so they're all bad and stay away is your motto. Even though everyone has proven you wrong and you look like a whiny baby who hasn't even given any reason to say the things you are
@Whisper Quiet: oh dear another one…
so amazon automatically set up an account on .com .au for you because you had .com account? that's interesting. Filled in your payment details as well did they?
no-ones proved anything - a lot of people clearly are not telling the truth though as can be seen.
and I have never said stay away either, I have pointed out they are different stores with different terms and conditions, and that difference should influence where you buy from, if you are allowed that choice.
its pretty clear that I am being stalked on this site, and that the moderators here are quite happy to tolerate it which is also interesting.
and I have never said stay away either,
You said if the item is available on amazon.com, then we should buy from there instead. i.e. stay away from amazon.com.au if amazon.com has the item.
Why?
You never explained yourself.
its pretty clear that I am being stalked on this site, and that the moderators here are quite happy to tolerate it which is also interesting.
If it seems like everyone is "against" you, it is quite possible that you could be the one who might be mistaken. Perhaps explaining your reasoning would help your case. But after so many posts you still refuse to explain why buying from Amazon.com is superior to Amazon.com.au.
no the product is sold via.com with completely different terms and conditions including returns.
I bought a $12.50 lock from Amazon US via amazon.com.au. It was faulty so I went through the orders page which instructed me to mail it back and they will reimburse me shipping.
I mailed it back to the US which cost … $22. I then contacted the web chat to ask where I should send the auspost invoice to.
They said I didn't actually need to return it, they would have just refunded the whole amount to me. But because I did, once they receive it they will refund me $32 for shipping even though I only paid $22.
Doesn't sound bad to me!
@eug: SO where was the return shipping to ? presumably US? So you had to return it to get a refund and after you had returned it because the shipping was more than the cost of return they just said they would have refunded you in full to save them money.
you could only talk to .au because you had no option to talk to .com. its interesting that because .com does have the ability to put you through to .au but so far I have never managed to do it the other way.
So you had to return it to get a refund
No. I didn't contact them to ask about it, I just used their returns link.
Later on I contacted them and they said I didn't actually have to return it, they would have just refunded me right away.
and after you had returned it because the shipping was more than the cost of return they just said they would have refunded you in full to save them money.
No. No idea how you're getting that from what I said. You're now just making up scenarios in your head to suit what you want to think.
you could only talk to .au because you had no option to talk to .com.
Why would I even want to talk to .com? I did not buy it from .com. I bought it from .com.au. They are the ones who sold it to me. So I want to talk to them.
@eug: the item you bought was stated to be sold by a separate store. the only link you were given was to .au not the seller . you only had one option to return it. those are the facts.
the reason why they said about refunding after you had returned it was because they used to refund without return on low value items when the return cost is higher than the cost. Always have - another fact.
its not made up and you have no real idea why they said that afterwards so why the accusation? for some bizarre reason you seem to think that I don't know what I am talking about….
you only had one option to return it. those are the facts.
My other option was not to return it at all. But because I returned it, I'm making $10 profit from the faulty lock.
they used to refund without return on low value items when the return cost is higher than the cost. Always have - another fact.
Did I say that was untrue?
its not made up and you have no real idea why they said that afterwards
As I said in my first post, I never asked them in the first place. When I requested the return the site mention they will reimburse "up to $32" which is why I didn't mind paying $22 upfront.
You're pushing this off topic. Going back to your original statement:
So you had to return it to get a refund and after you had returned it because the shipping was more than the cost of return they just said they would have refunded you in full to save them money.
No, I did not have to return it to get a refund. That is a fact.
after you had returned it because the shipping was more than the cost of return they just said they would have refunded you in full to save them money.
No. This is the part you're making up. Amazon knows that the lock cost $12.50 because they sold it to me for that price. When I started the returns process, it said they will reimburse me up to $32. It seemed dumb to me but I did it anyway, since it was Amazon's money. When I got onto the chat about it, I was told I did not have to submit any receipts and I would be automatically reimbursed the full $32. If they were trying to save themselves money, there is absolutely no way they would offer to reimburse $32 for $22 shipping, plus the $12.50 refund on top of that.
For some bizarre reason you seem to think buying from Amazon US via Amazon AU is an experience to be avoided. If you have solid examples of why, do share. So far you haven't done anything to explain why you're so against buying from Amazon US via Amazon AU.
@eug: you were talking to au. - they did not have the option available to them to save .com the money because they are separated stores.
I am not against buying from amazon us via amazon .au when its appropriate, however sometimes it is inappropriate, and you are better off if you can buying directly from.com.
I never said otherwise.
and I have never made anything up - that's your style not mine.
you were talking to au. - they did not have the option available to them to save .com the money because they are separated stores.
No. Amazon AU gave me two options. The first was to return the item and make a profit of $10. This would not have saved them money. The second was to keep the item and get a refund. That would have saved them money.
I am not against buying from amazon us via amazon .au when its appropriate, however sometimes it is inappropriate,
What makes it inappropriate? This is your main point but you have not explained why.
and you are better off if you can buying directly from.com.
Why?
and I have never made anything up - that's your style not mine.
Read your post again. Particularly this sentence where you completely made up the scenario in your head.
So you had to return it to get a refund
No. I did not have to return it to get a refund. Why did you make that part up?
because the shipping was more than the cost of return they just said they would have refunded you in full to save them money.
No. Amazon knows the lock cost $12.50. When I lodged the return request they said they will reimburse up to $32 for return shipping - this is before I even knew how much it would cost to mail it back. Why did you make that part up?
@eug: you are very strange - the only options open on the pull down menu are not as you are describing - you are describing a conversation.
either webchart or phone - with .au
so .au offered you a refund and to keep the item and you declined that , so as to make a profit on the postage to send it back and to get a replacement - correct?
and you are saying Amazon. au do that for everything and everyone - correct?
because to start with you wrote this…
'I bought a $12.50 lock from Amazon US via amazon.com.au. It was faulty so I went through the orders page which instructed me to
mail it back and they will reimburse me shipping.
I mailed it back to the US which cost … $22. I then contacted the web chat to ask where I should send the auspost invoice to'
but above you just wrote
'No. Amazon knows the lock cost $12.50. When I lodged the return request they said they will reimburse up to $32 for return shipping - this is before I even knew how much it would cost to mail it back. '
Clearly your story keeps changing solely in order to waste my time and deride me…
@petry: Before getting to your reply, you still haven't answered these questions.
So you had to return it to get a refund
No. I did not have to return it to get a refund. Why did you make that part up?
because the shipping was more than the cost of return they just said they would have refunded you in full to save them money.
No. Amazon knows the lock cost $12.50. When I lodged the return request they said the website stated they will reimburse up to $32 for return shipping - this is before I even knew how much it would cost to mail it back. Why did you make that part up?
I am not against buying from amazon us via amazon .au when its appropriate, however sometimes it is inappropriate,
What makes it inappropriate? This is your main point but you have not explained why.
and you are better off if you can buying directly from.com.
Why?
the only options open on the pull down menu are not as you are describing
Go to your amazon.com.au's Your orders page.
The second button on that page says "Return items".
so .au offered you a refund and to keep the item and you declined that
No. I did not decline anything. But I see why you're confused, and I could definitely have worded that sentence better so I apologize for that. There are two options. I wasn't aware of the first one (refund without return) because, as I said in my very first post, I went directly to the return items link on the orders page. Later on I found out if I started a chat instead, they would have just refunded me.
and you are saying Amazon. au do that for everything and everyone - correct?
No, incorrect. Please point out where I said Amazon.au does that for everything and for everyone. I was describing my experience with them. Why did you make that up?
Clearly your story keeps changing solely in order to waste my time and deride me…
Nothing has changed. But the sentence above - "When I lodged the return request, they said they will reimburse" should really be "When I lodged the return request, the website stated they will reimburse".
I did a test checkout and I can buy it with free expedited international delivery using Prime, from Amazon.com.au for $174.62
So yes, it is available on .au. It’s just coming from the US.
no .au is a just a freight forwarder for .com
You’re pretty clueless. No one is denying that buying from .au is getting it shipped from the US.
@theguyrules: no .au is a just a freight forwarder for .com
the seller is not .au it is .com
its a tax dodge .you are buying from the .com in the us. you can neg reality as much as you like it ain't going away.
the product is sold via.com with completely different terms and conditions including returns.
these are also varied by .au whenever it suits.
the seller is not .au it is .com - you are not buying it from.au
it is very odd that so many can read they are buying from a different company in a different country and apparently do not believe that to be the case as made clear by all the negs..
@BlitzR: really?
so many here think they are buying from amazon.com.au despite the site telling them otherwise on the product page….
next people will be saying here how that chunk of coal in scomo's hand was about to become a diamond…
@petry: It is sold be Amazon, then arrives at your door within 2 weeks of purchase. Warranty is covered by Amazon. So why do you need to kick up such a fuss about it? Wait, your name Gerry Harvey?
@BlitzR: warranty is not by amazon.au, it is by amazon.com - it goes to America - takes up to 4 weeks sometimes.
I am unsure why you think all amazons are the same when the items sold by each have their own separate terms and conditions.
.com items do not get price protection, promo's and bonus's are not supplied - this is solely about moving revenue for amazon.
and goods purchased from .com can take months to arrive….
@petry: Ok uncle Harvey. I've just purchased 2. Ive been purchasing items from amazon.com (well before they opened.com.au) for many years without having issues when it comes to claiming warranty. Thanks for the info but
@petry: Purchasing on .au means buyer has a contract with .au. In turn .au has a transaction with .com. .com then sends the product to the buyer according to the instructions from .au.
.au is an intermediary in terms of the goods but not in terms of service.
.au is not a forwarder because it assumes the responsibility of fulfilling the contract it has with the buyer (which it subsequently passes onto .com). A freight forwarder performs the function of forwarding only and you cannot chase the forwarder for say if the product is faulty. However in this case the contract is with .au and you can chase them if the product went wrong.
This is my understanding but by no means an expert. Open to be corrected
@BlueSkyAPI: well essentially you're wrong.
differentiation is made clear in terms and conditions of world store and au. is not the seller because if it was the separate terms would not be highlighted by .au.
try thinking of it as a marketplace with world store being just another third party with the same name and you'll be about right……
@petry: Ok I can live with the marketplace & third party analogy - it makes sense. However if that is the case then your previous analogy as a freight forwarder would not stand.
Anyway it's a thought experiment - in practical terms as long as the buyer is aware of the differences in terms/shipping terms that is okay.
Don't quite get your tax dodge argument though. I believe orders placed on .com do incur importation tax. So for a order that's placed via .au then implicitly it gets fulfilled by .com which would include a tax. Probably explains part of the price disparity between .com and .au for the identical item sold by .com. Do you mind to elaborate how this tax dodge works in your thinking please?
@BlueSkyAPI: where is the money being banked for .com purchases? It appears to be au.
reckon in the early years of operation plus deals claiming against au. operations despite it being sold by .com they're paying less tax here.
in regards to marketplace analogy although that works better as a mental model these purchases are not being fulfilled by amazon because of the store separation - the freight forwarder reference is more revealing in that sense.
clearly the separation of amazon stores and the finer points of the different store services available to the customer are clearly difficult for some to grasp, its a very clever setup and you can see why they make so much profit.
@petry: The separation of amazon stores and finer points are quite detailed. OzB being a public forum I can't and don't expect everyone to be able to pick up the nuances. For most people only the practical service/delivery matters to them. Behind the scene what actually happens depends on how Amazon's structured their accounting and there is more than one way to shift profit. Another alternative is the Google/McDonald model where a separate IP/franchise fee is levied between the parent and the local operating entities. In that case the fee won't be applied to each individual transactions even though in principle it should be spread over all the consumer transactions.
Point being there are many ways to skin the cat - and the truth might not exist. With enough money thrown in the lawyers/accountants can bend the rules to fit.
Under the market place analogy it would make sense the money is banked at .com since the buyer is paying .com as the seller. It's possible .au charging some fees for facilitating the transaction but this is not transparent. This is a possible mechanism to achieve profit shifting.
My first intuition has this as a sub-contracting model (ie. buyer contracting with .au, then .au transact with .com) is because of the .au Amazon Prime membership covers the shipping cost of .com items purchased on .au platform (min US$49). So from the buyer perspective it seems like the order is placed with .au, which would then apply a shipping discount to negate the shipping cost that would otherwise appear if the transaction is placed on .com.
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ELI5 what's QLC?
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How does this compare to the Samsung QVO and EVO SSDs?
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So probably not as good as those deals that came previously
I don't think we're comparing apples to apples in this case because Samsung's QVO range doesn't have any PCIe products.
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