Game of Thrones S08E03 - Poll *SPOILERS*

Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 08:23
Last edited 02/05/2019 - 12:13

So those of us who have watched the latest episode of GoT, what did you think?

Personally, while watching the episode I was fully invested and loved every minute of it.

Afterwards, with some times reflecting on the series as a whole, I found the whole thing a little anti-climatic.
The whole series has being building up to this event, to have it end 'just like that'

Seems like winter came and went in one night….

Lots of people are saying the show is about who will sit on the throne….Well yes I agree with that, but at the same time the whole show has been setting up the White King wanting to destroy "men", which you'd think is bigger than the throne.

I personally would've liked episode 2 to have gone into a bit of a back story of the white king and his little entourage who did nothing. Instead of an episode of the main characters having a deep and meaningful, who we already know all about and have made our opinions on them already.

Poll Options

  • 121
    Best. Episode. EVER!
  • 400
    Anti-Climatic
  • 62
    Sucked
  • 88
    OK
Entertainment HBO TV Series

Comments

  • SnowDragon on 30/04/2019 - 08:33
    +6

    I feel like you could have some more options. Perhaps an actual scale like 1-3, 4-6, 7-8, 9-10.
    It was a great episode. I don't know if it was the best. People have differing opinions on what makes a good episode.

    the whole show has been setting up the White King wanting to destroy "men"

    You forget what the name of the show is ;). The White King has just been a subplot. It has brought lots of people together and made allegiances which will affect who ends up on the throne, if anyone.

    • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 08:35
      +2

      I didn't forget, I just expected a little more from this sub plot

      True about the poll options

      But how about:

      Best. Episode. EVER! = 8-10

      Anti-Climatic = 5

      Sucked = 1-4

      OK = 6-7

      • SnowDragon on 30/04/2019 - 08:36
        +1

        Perhaps the books will provide something more climactic.

        • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 08:40
          +5

          Yeh I'm thinking it will be very different in the books.

          If GRRM ever finishes them.

          You can tell 'Hollywood' has taken of the series as another thing in this season is the lack of deaths from main characters

        • Laurana on 01/05/2019 - 00:53
          +2

          lol the books are never getting finished. This is the only resolution we’re going to get :(

        • JulianP on 01/05/2019 - 08:52

          Well considering theres no night king in the books it might differ quite alot.

        • Rumstein on 01/05/2019 - 09:44
          +1

          Tbf, I can imagine that if I were GRRM, I would find it difficult to continue writing the books, because the story has already been finished in TV form, and it's no longer "new" to him.

          • ESEMCE on 01/05/2019 - 09:57
            +1

            @Rumstein: There's a kazillion storylines in the books that aren't even mentioned in the TV series, he keeps adding more with each release… His problem is that there are now so many story threads it's almost impossible to complete them. He's got his major characters spread across the continent halfway through plots that will need either rapid direction changes or at least another 2 books to merge back together and even in 2 books it'll feel rushed.

            The TV series has merged characters and completely ignored others (justifiably) in order to control the story and keep the focus largely on Westeros.

    • dogboy on 30/04/2019 - 09:25
      +7

      The show is called Game of Thrones, the books are called a Song of Ice and Fire. As the first book was called A Game of Thrones, you would think that the fight for the Iron Throne was really just a smaller part of the larger fight between Fire and Ice. I think this is why people are saying it was anticlimactic. While the show tried to encompass the larger story arc, it is only a show so cannot go to the same depth as a book. E.g. the significance of the direwolves and the Starks being Worgs.

      Love the show though and it has eclipsed the books imo which steadily declined in quality since the 3rd one. Annoying they are already talking about a prequel series and don't get me started on that awful Harry Potter spinoff series. There are so many fantastic fantasy books out there which are far better than ASoIaF. Really annoying that Hollywood has become so risk adverse that all they do are remakes and sequels that no one wants.

      • SnowDragon on 30/04/2019 - 09:39

        Yes but they make more money out of milking the cows. Star Wars has become stale again. Give it 30 years and we'll have another 3 episodes to critical acclaim.

        GoT is just "in" right now and they will continue to capitalize on it.
        Breaking Bad had Better Call Saul which might even run longer than BB did.
        Big Bang had Young Sheldon

        Countless of other popular tv shows have had spin-offs solely to continue bringing in the coin.

      • blingerz on 01/05/2019 - 11:15
        +3

        care to share some of those "fantastic fantasy book" titles?

        • ThadtheChad on 01/05/2019 - 11:18
          +1

          I'm keen to know as well.

          • flubba86 on 01/05/2019 - 15:22
            +1

            @ThadtheChad: @gearhead
            See my reply on the parent comment for my recommendations.

        • flubba86 on 01/05/2019 - 15:14
          +3

          I'm not @dogboy, but you can have my opinions.

          The Stormlight Archive series, by Brandon Sanderson, starting with book 1, "The way of Kings". It has similar themes to A Song of Ice and Fire, but with that unique Brandon Sanderson flavour. Its also better written, and easier to follow than A Song of Ice and Fire (in my opinion).

          And a little further removed from the stereotypical "Game of Thrones" style of fantasy, is the Mistborn series, also by Brandon Sanderson, fast becoming a favourite of many.

          In fact Brandon Sanderson is ranked the best fantasy author of the 21st century, ahead of George RR Martin. So check out his other stuff, its all great.

          If you're looking for an amazingly well written and easy to consume fantasy novel, check out The Kingkiller Chronicle by Patrick Rothfuss, starting with "The Name of the Wind", but only if you can stand some cheesy/creepy/cringey romance subplot.

          • darkchoc on 01/05/2019 - 15:33
            +1

            @flubba86: Particularly where the main character becomes a sex god.

            A similar experience reading rothfus to grrm is waiting for books!

            • flubba86 on 01/05/2019 - 16:05
              +1

              @darkchoc: Yeah, the dude goes from "Can't talk to girls" to "literally sexed the Faerie of desire into submission" pretty damn fast. I hope thats not a spoiler for anyone wanting to get into the books. And I find his stalkey infatuation with the poor girl a bit cringey, but its so well written you can forgive that.

          • [Deactivated] on 02/05/2019 - 13:07

            @flubba86: Brandon Sanderson is that you?

          • sachimo2000 on 02/05/2019 - 18:16

            @flubba86: Haha, was just about to post this. The Stormlight Archive series is probably my favorite fantasy series of all time and The Name of the Wind is pretty awesome too! I enjoyed GoT, but felt the pace dropped off in the later books.

        • one man clan on 02/05/2019 - 09:16

          I've read all of Flubba's recommendations and they are good. Personally didn't love Mistborn, and you can tell Sanderson has developed as a writer.

          Malazan book of the Fallen is the best epic fantasy series IMO

          • ThadtheChad on 02/05/2019 - 10:32

            @one man clan: I absolutely loved Mistborn, haven't read Stormlight Archive as I prefer entire series to be complete before sinking my teeth into one. I really enjoy binge reading one after the other.

            Malazan book of the Fallen is the best epic fantasy series IMO

            It is definitely quite heavy reading. I stopped reading on book #7 (Toll the hounds) and haven't gone back. I guess I'll have to re-read all of it again since it has been years (or perhaps try an audiobook version).

        • MoMoney on 03/05/2019 - 12:27
          +1

          I would definitely recommend Raymond E Feist's Riftwar Saga series of books.

    • Bargain80 on 01/05/2019 - 08:44
      -1

      true. it's all about the iron throne. The Night King is a subplot to reunite some characters (and destroy their armies) before the final clashing with Cersei.

      But I'm not sure what are they going to show for the next two episodes.
      I'd have thought they will show the battle on episode 5 and then the final battle with Cersei on episode 6.

    • Rumstein on 01/05/2019 - 09:42
      +1

      The series is called "A Song of Ice and Fire", it was only the first book that was called "A Game of Thrones"

      It was unsatisfying.

    • Whomastadon on 01/05/2019 - 23:30
      +1

      It's not a subplot. The entire core theme and story of Game of Thrones / A Song of Ice and Fire has been / is about, how the petty squabbling of men fighting over the token throne means nothing in the grand scheme of things, when death itself is coming to destroy them all.

  • [Deactivated] on 30/04/2019 - 08:36
    +3

    I have never seen even a minute of game of thrones. I'm saving it for when I retire or get bed ridden in the future.

    • PAOK11 on 30/04/2019 - 23:36
      +1

      Im with you. Its not a very accessible show. I mean you either need foxtel or to buy box sets. Oh well, im sure i would enjoyed it if i was watched it from 2011

      • Danstar on 01/05/2019 - 05:02
        +15

        Plenty of other options in theory

    • ExpressCoffee on 01/05/2019 - 09:41
      +1

      Bran, that you?

    • ihbh on 01/05/2019 - 11:34

      Why are you here? Don't mind spoilers?

    • wengerboy on 02/05/2019 - 18:52

      Honestly I'm gonna do this, after game of thrones is over I'm gonna stop watching tv shows there is too many good shows now, save them for old age when I have less mobility, we're doing the opposite right now in binge watching when we should be out and about.

  • payton on 30/04/2019 - 08:38
    +12

    Cheap and crap. Looks like a Disney production now with Arya pulling off ever more incredulous feats. The plot armor on her is just much wow. Surviving multiple stabs from waif, a little girl somehow able to impersonate a much bigger man and ended House Frey in a matter of minutes, and the whitewalker plot being put in a dumpster in one episode. GG so ez.

    Should rewrite that whole episode.

    • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 08:42
      +5

      Yeh, this seems to be the opinion of the majority that I've read so far.

      The episode was still enjoyable to watch, but so much more could've been done.

      I guess they're trying to get as much done in the 6 episodes they only have this season. (with episode 2 being a bit of a filler and a waste of an episode)

      • payton on 30/04/2019 - 08:43
        +4

        Instead of a game of thrones, what we have now is a Starks family being given superpowers, because: must keep the basic 'good always prevail' fanbase somehow.

        • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 08:46
          +2

          @payton:
          Yeh, you can definitely tell that GRRM isn't involved in this story line

    • manash on 01/05/2019 - 11:10
      +2

      I think this episode was written perfectly. We all know that Ramsay Bolton refused to fight one on one with Jon Snow, so did Night King. Night King has seen him fight and kill one of his generals in battle of Hardhome. This whole episode Night King was avoiding war in front line. He knows the risk. Jon Snow dead means one person dead, but him dying means all dead dying. We all wanted to see Jon Snow and Night King fight one on one. However, Night King chose the smart move. It was his choice not ours. Of-course we all got frustrated. And Arya's plot line was well planned but unexpected making some of us thrill with joy and some with dis-satisfaction.

      • Danstar on 01/05/2019 - 11:16
        +1

        I don't think the Night King puts that much thought into the living.

    • jno on 01/05/2019 - 15:43
      +1

      Dude this is a show that has dragons and ice zombies…is anything farfetched?

      • payton on 03/05/2019 - 21:47

        fantasy setting still doesn't excuse Arya being launched at the NK like a human cannonball
        even Maisie Williams thought it was an odd choice for her to be the one killing the night king.
        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/game-of-thrones-arya-stark-big-…

        • baldur on 05/05/2019 - 18:34

          haha. just because there are dragons, people think any illogical occurrence is okay. some people cant seem to fathom that there being dragons are just the part of the concept created and jon snow managing to escape from 200 zombies are not the same thing.

    • Hirolol on 01/05/2019 - 19:58
      +1

      Did you do this to everything you watch?
      You sound like you would complain a lot in real life

      • payton on 03/05/2019 - 21:40

        Did you do this to everything you watch?

        No I don't, can't stand cringy and BS plot lines tho, got triggered last episode =)
        I don't complain much IRL, I just fix the situation when I can, and get myself out of it otherwise

    • User102430 on 02/05/2019 - 17:36

      "Cheap and crap. Looks like a Disney production now with Arya pulling off ever more incredulous feats. The plot armor on her is just much wow. Surviving multiple stabs from waif, a little girl somehow able to impersonate a much bigger man and ended House Frey in a matter of minutes, and the whitewalker plot being put in a dumpster in one episode. GG so ez."

      I'm under impression entire series had this line of "incredible" things happening all the time… although perhaps they push it harder and harder. Not impressed, either.

  • tabz on 30/04/2019 - 08:40
    +38

    Why do you guys keep calling him the "White King"? That's a toilet bleach.

    • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 08:43

      Hahaha. Actually should be saying Night king, must've seen some White King advertising lately :D~

    • pikapika on 30/04/2019 - 13:27
      +2

      Plus it's Wights and not White..lol

      • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 13:40
        -7

        They're name as a whole is White Walkers, as a 'species' they are Wights.

        • bert-lifts on 30/04/2019 - 14:47
          +8

          The zombies are "wights". the dudes with beards who hang at the back controlling the wights are white walkers. Basically Crasters baby's which the Night King converted.

      • Melong on 01/05/2019 - 20:29

        You are right about the wights not being white

  • pao2x on 30/04/2019 - 08:43
    +1

    Best episode ever 7/10
    Anti climactic 8/10

  • donbot on 30/04/2019 - 09:15
    +16

    Wait, I'm confused about the episode. So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?

  • EightImmortals on 30/04/2019 - 09:17
    +6

    The OP sounds like a round-up of next months election.

  • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 30/04/2019 - 09:21

    Bran is Dr. Strange confirmed.

    • Bargain80 on 01/05/2019 - 08:54

      minus superpower and working legs

  • BOGOF on 30/04/2019 - 09:27
    +15

    I watched it on Showcase HD, and the picture quality was appalling, very blurry action scenes. Anyone else experience this?

    • SnowDragon on 30/04/2019 - 09:40
      +13

      Colleague had it on Foxtel and said their compression was terrible and it was blurry as well.

      I watched a 720p version that I found on the pavement outside my house and the dark scenes were a bit blurry and weird. There are many people online complaining how they couldn't see much.

      • abuch47 on 30/04/2019 - 23:10
        +1

        I found a 1080p version in davey jones locker and it was black as my beard.

        Whats a pirates favourite letter?

        R. But his true love is the C.

        • RocketSwitch on 01/05/2019 - 21:31
          +1

          I found a 4K copy in my neighbours bin.

    • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 09:45
      +1

      I watched it online via the Foxtel site from my HTPC and quality was great (I have a VGA video card that probably about 10+ years old too)

    • umoddbro on 01/05/2019 - 02:57
      +1

      Yep its the compression issue you have with streaming services…

    • RocketSwitch on 01/05/2019 - 21:30

      Should have purchased that 75" Hisense TV!

    • ChickenTalon on 02/05/2019 - 11:33
      +1

      New Panasonic OLED 65”, watching foxtel ShowcaseHD via the set top box. Brightness max, dark room.

      Looked shit

      • Danstar on 02/05/2019 - 12:06

        Kogan Curved 4K TV

        Streaming off Foxtel Website Via Desktop PC using a very old graphics card.

        Looked pretty good on mine

    • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 09:50
      +2

      Fixed for yah champ.

      I'm aware of the difference, just that this is an online forum and wasn't paying a great deal of attention to making sure my sentences were grammatically perfect.

      PS. I didn't neg you :D

      • blewey on 02/05/2019 - 21:48
        +1

        But you did champ him

        • Danstar on 02/05/2019 - 23:00
          +1

          I know ;) hahah

    • Third_Gear on 30/04/2019 - 09:51
      +3

      I was my anyway paragraph coherent.

  • Ryanek on 30/04/2019 - 10:09
    +3

    They reserved 1/6th of the entire season to one battle. I think it was great.

    • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 10:13
      +5

      Or you could say they ended a story arc with 1/70th of all episodes

      • Ryanek on 30/04/2019 - 10:20

        I would say the arc was covered in the first 3 episodes. A build up to the final battle.

        • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 10:33
          +8

          Not really, 1 episode of setting up the army, 1 episode of useless chatter before 1 episode of the actual battle.

          50% of the show has been about winter coming and the white walkers destroying life. Yet it was all wrapped up in 1 episode. No further explanation or details on the White Walkers

          • EightImmortals on 30/04/2019 - 14:37
            +4

            @Danstar: You forgot side boobies.

          • [Deactivated] on 30/04/2019 - 15:44
            -1

            @Danstar: I actually disagree on this point. The white walkers weren’t 50% of the plot, they were more of a side issue. The real focus has and will always be the Game of Thrones.

            • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 16:06
              +6

              @[Deactivated]: They’ve hyped up since the beginning that winter is coming. I said it’s 50% of the main story. I just feel they didn’t give it enough time in the end

              • [Deactivated] on 30/04/2019 - 17:25

                @Danstar: I see what you’re saying, but I think the fact that they’ve devoted the final 3 episodes to the iron thrown shows where their focus is.

                • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 18:02

                  @[Deactivated]: Agreed

                  • [Deactivated] on 30/04/2019 - 18:32
                    +2

                    @Danstar: I can’t believe I spelt throne like that.

                    • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 18:40

                      @[Deactivated]: I didn’t even notice hahahaha 😂😂

                      I just noticed I made a mistake a few comments below saying I steamed it off Foxtel

    • AustriaBargain on 30/04/2019 - 22:13
      +1

      1/12th, if you consider that half the episode was shadows and snow.

    • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 10:35
      +6

      I think people were just expecting plots on top of sub-plots on top of plots with a few deaths thrown in.
      The whole show has been a wild roller coaster not knowing who will die, who is on who's side, who is good who is bad, etc.

      Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed every minute of the episode, just felt anticlimactic upon reflection.

      As a mate put it, felt like a wet fire cracker

      • Clear on 30/04/2019 - 18:03

        That's what happens when there are no books to use as a source.

        • Danstar on 30/04/2019 - 18:26
          +1

          IlL read the books next

          • Clear on 30/04/2019 - 22:34
            -3

            @Danstar: Hilarious part is those same people who I said are upset have been triggered by my comment. Just look at the negs!

            • Kangal on 30/04/2019 - 23:09

              @Clear: Nah, I think they're negging you and its deserved.
              I don't subscribe to reddit/theories, yet, even I can see the issues with the script writers, producers, and directors. Don't get me wrong, I still watched it, and I still enjoyed it, but like many viewers I saw flaws/room for improvement.

              For one thing, I liked the very dark setting at the start of the episode with the Dothraki charge. However, after that the "extra dim" visual had a negative effect on the quality. Next I found the whole battle too condensed and rushed. They should have split it into two episodes. On top of this they needed to up the suspense to eleven. And they needed to show us characters getting killed, rather than relying on it as a cliff-hanger so that people watch the next episode to find out officially. Lastly, this feels like it is too close to the start of the season, meaning what is left isn't as enticing. If you paid attention to seasons 1-5, they were clever in have one big event happen in the third episode and the biggest in the ninth episode, leaving episodes one and two to build up scenarios, and the tenth-final episode as an aftermath episode to get people excited to wait another year/another season. Ofcourse, they had the guidance of GRRM for seasons 1-5, hence why there's a sharp/noticeable drop in content and quality following after.

              Not to mention, these guys are getting paid millions to make this an extravaganza…. and I think they deserve to be called upon a job done subpar and the criticism justified. I mean, if you like, I can type out a two-episode scenario/script on how the entire thing (biggest event of Game of Thrones) could have been done. And I'll do it for free and without changing the plot. And yes, I am a geek.

              • Clear on 30/04/2019 - 23:13
                +1

                @Kangal: I criticised one thing and one thing only and that's the people who subscribed to the crazy reddit theories were wrong (e.g. Night King flying to Kings Landing on his own, Starks in the crypts would fight for the living). You just have see the post episode discussions on the subreddit to understand or at the very least watch the episode to see those theories were wrong.

                Bringing in the producers, directors, writers, how the episode played out, how bad the Dothraki charge was, how X was anti-climatic, how X was stupid and so forth has nothing to do with my comment. I have not shared my opinion on those matters in that comment.

                People need to stop twisting other people's comments here and making assumptions that they're criticising things that they're not.

                For the record my vote is on anti-climatic compared to say Wildings attacking the wall or Daenerys vs the Lannister army.

                • Kangal on 30/04/2019 - 23:43

                  @Clear: Strawmanning.
                  I didn't/wasn't trying to twist your words. I was trying to correct your initial assumption.

                  Most people were upset NOT because of their expectations, I mean, everyone went in knowing that they can only guess the outcome and that there are no leaks nor books to read beforehand. Very few people have been upset that things didn't pan out exactly as they anticipated.

                  The reason why MOST viewers are upset is for two reasons:
                  - the lighting problem
                  - the poor plot/storytelling
                  (if the episode had superb storytelling, then even those people who have strong thoughts about theories would not have been very upset. And the lighting issue is self-explanatory).

                  You see, bringing up the quality of the episode was the crux of the issue, and not off-topic as you insist. And you going around the elephant in the room, to pass the guilt of bad storytelling to the actual viewers are just sensitive, was why some people negged you in the first place.

                  • Clear on 30/04/2019 - 23:46
                    -3

                    @Kangal: As per the OP…

                    So those of us who have watched the latest episode of GoT, what did you think?

                    My response to that question was that people were upset that their outrageous theories about what would happen was wrong. You can bring all the other issues with the episode into this, but that doesn't change anything - many of the big popular theories were wrong and many (but not all) were upset by it.

                    Plain and simple.

                    • Kangal on 01/05/2019 - 00:14
                      +1

                      @Clear: Sure… if you hang out in the reddit echo-chamber.
                      My point was that, that is a small subset of viewers, and a smaller subset of people who were disappointed.

                      I mean, sure, you can never please everyone. There will always be that one "superfan". And the theory dissonance would have added some small part in the population of viewers who didn't like the episode as much as they wanted. Besides, it is unreasonable and unjustifiable to dislike a production if it disagrees with my "headcanon", unlike say, if a work causes plot holes, retcons, or breaks an already established canon fact.

                      But for us John Citizens out there, we were disappointed "anti-climatic" for justifiable reasons (two points above). This is the real concern with the episode, and I was trying to address the incorrect assumption in your initial comment.

                      • Clear on 01/05/2019 - 00:17

                        @Kangal: Well yeah my original comment specifically mentioned Reddit.

                        You made the wrong assumption about my comment. It's either a case of yes people were upset that their Reddit theories were wrong or no they weren't upset they were wrong.

                        • Danstar on 01/05/2019 - 05:08
                          +1

                          @Clear: I think most people didn't read theories….Everyone who watches the show would've had some sort of theory or expectations on what was going to happen.

                          The main point on people being upset is it didn't feel like how the show has been portrayed for 5-6 seasons….They've changed their ways thinking it would be popular, but they were wrong.

                          Still the most popular show on TV regardless….

                          • Clear on 01/05/2019 - 07:37

                            @Danstar: Over 50000 votes and a lot more views of the 2mil readers on most of these Reddit theories. Certainly a lot more than the minority of OzBargain.

                            It's really simple too. Either some people were upset by the theories being wrong or some people weren't. Anything else is a twist of my words.

                            • Danstar on 01/05/2019 - 07:48
                              +1

                              @Clear: I don't know anyone who is upset cos their theories were wrong, and I've spoken to about 20 people about the episode.

                              The main thing people were upset with with the people I've spoken to is the anticlimactic ending of the episode.

                              Which is evident in the poll from the OP

                              You may be right about reddit, but I'm (and the guy your'e arguing with) talking about a much smaller scale of opinion

                              • Clear on 01/05/2019 - 07:53

                                @Danstar: Then I'm not sure why both of you feel the need to mention something completely unrelated to my comment. You're making my comment about something else it's not.

                                • Danstar on 01/05/2019 - 07:56

                                  @Clear: You original comment was saying people upset that their theories on reddit were wrong, that's why they're upset.

                                  No one on here (that I'm aware of) had a theory on reddit and is upset that it didn't come to fruition

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