My dishwasher seems to have lost the ability to heat water. It's probably 9 years old and came with the house.
I've been considering whether I should spend like $500 on a Beko or something like a Bosch for $1000+
The Beko appears to come with a 5 year warranty and that seems pretty good. I figure dishwashers are pretty much like toasters now i.e you can get a perfectly good one for almost nothing.
Any views?
We have 5 of those F&P dish drawers at work (10 drawers in total). Constantly breaking down despite only being installed in June 2017. Warranty is worthless.
I wouldn't have one in my own kitchen.
I’ve got a $700 base model Bosch, made in Thailand, it works great, obviously the German built ones are better, I’d go with Asian built Bosch over beko.
Better than hand washing either way, for sure.
I see dishwashers/washing machines/dryers as just consumables. Lucky if you get more than 5 years. I once had a $2000 smeg brand one only last till end of warranty. Have a bosch now, it's probably the best one we've had over the years.
My cheapo Dishlex Global 300 purchased 1997 is still going strong. Have replace the water pump ($60) and the heating element ($40) about 2 years ago.
Cheap ones can last.
I had a $2k+ Miele in my old place that was still going strong after 25 years. It broke down twice.
Repair 1 was $400 and I have no idea what the issue was.
Repair 2 I was going to scrap it but did some diagnosis and worked out it was the water supply hose. Cost in AUS was $400+. I bought one from the UK for $125 and installed it myself.
It's also needed 2x cutlery baskets and a couple of major cleanouts.
Before that I had an expensive Smeg for 5 years until I moved.
The apartment I bought last year had a brand new Westinghouse that the previous investor/owner installed prior to settlement. It was ~$500 from 2nds world and I assume they've done a dodgy with tax and bought themselves something expensive and claimed it as their was no request on my part to supply a new dishwasher.
It seems to work fine but is a bit noisy.
My main buying criteria would be electricity use and noise.
I rented an apartment that had an Ikea dishwasher. For the 4 years that we rented, it never missed a beat. Did a good job cleaning as well. There was a previous tenant before us so It would have to have been going for at least 5 years. They sell from $500.
The earlier Ikea were Whirlpool dishwashers, the newer Ikea units are made by Electrolux.
I've got a Westinghouse that I paid about $650 for. I've had it about a year and it is to replace the prior model that gave 11-odd years of service without missing a beat.
If you're only concerned with personal use I'd be getting something at that sort of price point.
If you're worried about the "appearance", match the value of your dishwasher (and other similar appliances) to the value of your place. If you're living in a lower end place, get lower end gear. If you're living in a top end place, get top end gear.
My dishwasher seems to have lost the ability to heat water.
it's the element.
post the brand and model, and some one will show you where to get the part for $25 and how to install the new one.
if that is the only issue then replace the broken part. buy a new machine when something truly expensive dies in it.
Thanks for that. It is Omega DW402XA.
I would be happy to attempt to fix it myself, although, to be honest it does not seem that well made.
ok, a little bit more at $52~ delivered from ebay
simple install by releasing 2 house clamps on the old one and disconnecting a couple of wires.
or used for $35 delivered - has make an offer so …
Just cause it’s not heating that doesn’t mean it’s the heater. It could be the PCB.
@altomic: That is correct. Could be the PCB not sending voltage, at worst could even be faulty wiring. More likely to be a heater or PCB tho. If parts are cheap and you’re not confident on fault finding, just change both parts.
Or just buy a $600 Beko with 5 years warranty 😂
FYI, I am affiliated with Beko.
I have no experience with Beko but we have had a $700 bosch and its been going strong for about 10 years.
I can vouch for Bosch, i have a semi integrated one and i paid over $1k.. one of the best appliances in my kitchen :)
We have a couple of Bosch Serie 8 ones and my neighbour has the same.
Nothing but good things to say.
I upgraded the houses to the Series 8 from the low end Bosch and Miele stuff so no doubt it is going to be better but my neighbour has some serious boutique euro set up in his other place and he reckons the Serie 8 is a better performer.
YMMV.
I went from Westinghouse about $600 to Bosch (German model) $1000. for $400 difference, Bosch wash better.
Our old Miele was 20 plus years and we only replaced it, with a new Miele, because it was getting a bit noisy, it had not been serviced in all that time. We have an open plan house so having a quiet dishwasher is important to us. I think the answer is, it depends. You can get duds for any make. The thing to remember is the cost of installation and removal has to be included in your calculations when considering a model that might be less reliable. Our experience with our Miele stuff has been pretty good, however YMMV. I’m not interested in “snob” value I just hate buying junk that breaks down and has to be replaced.
Seems like the consensus is that Bosch is pretty good.
I am not fussed about brand, that's which the Beko seemed fine, even though I had not heard of the brand, I figured that something with a 5-year warranty is better than something with a 2-year warranty.
Choice Magazine just reviewed dishwashers( 19/02/19) if you're interested .Might be worthwhile at having a look at review if you're able to get your hands on a copy.
Thanks. I actually can access that so I'll have a look.
what does choice say?
@OzFrugie: Choice says:
Best overall LG XD3A15NS
Best Compact Haier HDW9-TFE3WH
Best on Budget Haier HDW13G1W
Best Avoided SMEG DWA6214S
Notably several of the best models were Bosch although all above $1000 RRP
We got an LG quadwash late last year from TGG. Love it
When our 25 year dishwasher finally died, we bought a $30 second hand one. Value for money.
When our previous one was going, we asked our dishwasher repairer what he thought (he's been in the industry for a couple of decades and also does warranty repairs). He said if you're staying somewhere for at least 5 years, he recommended Siemens as they have a 5 year warranty and he rarely has to repair those. Otherwise out of dishwashers with a 2 year warranty, he recommended Dishlex since they aren't too expensive and haven't been too dodgy. Choice also recommend a bunch of Bosch models, but note they are 2 year warranties and also the cheapest model as a plastic base which not everyone is keen on.
Have you seen the new post today for a dishwasher-down from!k+ to $209 http://www.delonghi.com/en-au/products/kitchen/major-applian…
Delonghi is just a cheap Chinese made unit.
Tbh, can’t go past the Beko 5 year warranty. Whilst there is better brands out there, why pay $1000+ for a Miele with 2 years warranty when you can get a Beko for $500-$800 with a crazy warranty period.
FYI, I’m affiliated with Beko.
Doesn't matter if its 1, 2, 5 year warranty, they usually last for 5+years.
It's all about how good is the washing, noise etc.
Warranty does matter to a lot of people actually. Something with 5 years warranty means along as it’s a manufacturing issue and not a customer misuse they don’t have to spend a dollar on it for 5 years as where something with 2 years warranty you will after two years.
With correct cycles and powered they will all get the same wash result.
Noise is something that does differ from a cheap to expensive brand.
Well according to Australian statutory guarantee, items such as dishwasher supposed to last for more than a year anyway. So it's pretty much covers manufacturing issues, altho claiming process would be a pain. So extra warranty or extended warranty is a gimmick for my understanding.
@boomramada: No dishwasher on the market currently has a year warranty.
Further more, ACL doesn’t state how long an item should last.
Extended warranty with third party company’s like ICFrith, Lumleys etc are just like an insurance policy, they’ll dodge it anyway they can. Beko’s extra warranty is with the manufacture so the same warranty conditions apply as the standard 2 year warranty period.
I had f&p dish drawers in current house. Absolute pain out of warranty. I ended up butchering parts from bottom drawer just to keep the top drawer functional for a few months.
Replaced with a beko that was scratch and dent at Stan Cash. Was rrp $800 for around $400. Still going strong after 4 years without issue. It washes better than the $1500 f&p (using aldi powder) and is also quiter.
I see no reason to be a brand snob in the kitchen. Ooooh my friends will think I'm poor if I don't have a top of the range Bosch/Miele dishwasher and a subzero fridge. Those "friends" no longer matter in my simplified life. /rant