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Herman Miller: Mirra $880 (RRP $1200), Aeron $990 (RRP $1430)
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KiwiRoo on 20/04/2011 - 16:44 livingedgeblog.files.wordpress.com (5530 clicks)

Awesome chair!! Super great price… Please don't NEG this deal by comparing it to the cheapie chairs from officeworks.

Are you sitting comfortably?

If the answer’s not a resounding yes, this one’s for you.

Herman Miller’s Aeron and Mirra chairs are widely recognised for unrivalled comfort. Now, for a limited time Living Edge is offering fully specified graphite Aeron or Mirra chairs at a fraction of the usual price. These are truly ergonomic chairs and if you’ve never experienced the difference this makes to your work environment, your general wellbeing, and your physio bills, you will be impressed. Contact your consultant for details.

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  • Radar on 20/04/2011 - 16:48

    Where in Brisbane can I try one of these out?

    edit: nm, just found they have a store in the valley.

  • fattyboombatty on 20/04/2011 - 16:52
    +2

    A link to the actual store would be nice - can't do much with a picture

    http://www.livingedge.com.au/catalog/view.php?itemid=77

    My last job provided Aeron chairs for everyone in the building. Must have cost a forture for 500+ employees. I have never sat in a more comfortable chair

  • stumo on 20/04/2011 - 17:01
    +1

    12 year warranty, thats pretty good.

    • KiwiRoo on 20/04/2011 - 20:30
      +1

      The warrantee from living edge is great. I had to get mine fixed and they came on site. Not sure it's standard practice with other supplier as well, or maybe the technician was sent from Herman miller. Anyway great chair and awesome warrantee. Also good resale value as well, dont think u can say the same with other models.

  • abc on 20/04/2011 - 17:02

    Chairs must be ordered and delivered by 28/05/2011 I wonder how much delivery is.

    Does anyone know how much Aeron Chairs went for on Whirlpool group buy once?

  • Hintswen on 20/04/2011 - 17:02

    Are you sitting comfortably?

    I'm sitting on my bed at my desk.

    • eug on 20/04/2011 - 17:05
      +5

      your poor back.

  • Mode on 20/04/2011 - 17:06

    Great chairs, thanks OP.

  • stumo on 20/04/2011 - 17:13

    Cheaper here 799+GST…
    http://www.innerspace.net.au/products.asp?id=182&catId=3

    • chir0nex on 20/04/2011 - 17:51

      Base Price: $799.00 + GST
      Optional Extras:
      Fixed arms + $90.00 + GST
      Fully adjustable arms + $156.00 + GST
      Tilt limiter and forward seat tilt + $85.00 + GST
      Posture fit feature + $67.00 + GST

      The one from livingedge probably comes with all those.

      I got my chair from living edge 3 years ago with a polished based for $1200 and that was cheap at the time especially considering it had a polished base.

      +1 for LivingEdge!

      • stumo on 20/04/2011 - 18:41
        +1

        The one from livingedge probably comes with all those.

        Maybe but thats a pretty big call unless you know something we don't.

        On my link it has an option of

        "Special buy full feature stock program graphite + $191.00 + GST"

        So if thats what livinedge are selling then yeah, $100 saving, not a $500 saving like in the advert.

        • [Deactivated] on 20/04/2011 - 19:20
          +1

          Living Edge is the primary distributor for Herman Miller products in Australia (note "Herman Miller (Aust) Pty Ltd trading as Living Edge"), and innerspace sources their Herman Miller products from Living Edge; innerspace doesn't undercut Living Edge, going by past buying experience.

          The $990 Aeron sold by Living Edge is likely the stock model (which includes a few options) rather than the base model (which doesn't come with arms!) — worth verifying directly with them if you're interested in buying though. Innerspace's price for the Aeron with the same stock options is $1,089: http://www.innerspacestore.com.au/buy-herman-miller-aeron-ch…

    • Mode on 20/04/2011 - 17:56
      +3

      I'm not sure that you're comparing apples with apples here. Maybe we need more info from the OP.

  • anthony on 20/04/2011 - 18:01
    +1

    Before buying one of these chair i would read this
    http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_19/b41770712…

    A 1 paragraph extract for the lazy

    The basic Aeron, by Herman Miller, costs around $700, and many office workers swear by them. There are also researchers who doubt them. "The Aeron is far too low," says Dr. A.C. Mandal, a Danish doctor who was among the first to raise flags about sitting 50 years ago. "I visited Herman Miller a few years ago, and they did understand. It should have much more height adjustment, and you should be able to move more. But as long as they sell enormous numbers, they don't want to change it." Don Chadwick, the co-designer of the Aeron, says he wasn't hired to design the ideal product for an eight-hour-workday; he was hired to update Herman Miller's previous best-seller. "We were given a brief and basically told to design the next-generation office chair," he says.

    • bobjane on 20/04/2011 - 18:36

      It might not make the best bar stool. However I find mine with more than enough height adjustment for any reasonable height desk.

      Those are great prices, I've never seen them discounted in the 4 years or so I've had mine. Might have something to do with the high Aussie dollar though.

      • [Deactivated] on 20/04/2011 - 18:50

        Those are great prices, I've never seen them discounted in the 4 years or so I've had mine. Might have something to do with the high Aussie dollar though.

        I recently bought a few items for my business from Living Edge, and was plesently surprised that the prices weren't too far off US retail prices — it appears that they're passing on savings from the high Aussie dollar, so kudos to them for that.

        Until recently, one could expect prices at Living Edge (and other high-end furniture retailers such as Corporate Culture and dedece) to be anywhere from 75% to 150% more expensive than retail prices in the US or Europe.

    • TimeOrMoney on 20/04/2011 - 18:56
      +4

      See: Better Off Ted, Episode 1.

      • chansthename on 20/04/2011 - 20:59
        +2

        too bad it's canned :(

        shame to see such a great show cut short

    • justtoreply on 20/04/2011 - 19:10

      That's exactly the link I was looking for.

      This allegedly isn't a chair for posture so much as a sellable style.

      Haven't sat in one though. Would love to, to see which side of the argument I'm on.

    • camelgrass on 20/04/2011 - 19:39

      You post that link everytime there is a Aeron chair post. ;)

      I can't see how the chair would be too low for most office desks these days (and is it any lower than any other office chair out there?). But if you do need it to be higher than the built-in height adjustment allows (ie. you have an unusually high desk or you are really tall), there are options:

      Unbolt the 4 screws on the seat pan (between the raisy thingie and the sitty thingie) and cut some 3/4" plywood to fit as a spacer. make a few so you can get the height right. you'll need to drill the appropriate holes in the right places. you'll need longer screws too. when you're done, paint the blocks black and no one will ever know.

      http://ask.metafilter.com/117544/How-can-I-make-my-Aeron-tal…

      You can also use washers for spacers.

      • ash on 20/04/2011 - 20:03
        +3

        paying $1000 and still have to mod the chair yourself?
        not a very worthy investment IMHO.
        Plus you'll probably void the 12 year warranty is part of selling point of high end chairs.

        I have tried lots of high end ergonomic task chairs including the Aeron (it felt too laid back in my opinion)
        before I settled on the Formway Life chair. People looking to buy this should really try other chairs first before buying into the HM brand hype.

        • [Deactivated] on 20/04/2011 - 20:13

          +1 to the Formway Life chair; I prefer it to the Aeron as well. And it's Australian made!

          I picked up a few of these for my business about a year ago at a liquidation auction for ~$300 each, still new in the box.

        • camelgrass on 20/04/2011 - 20:14
          +1

          I'm not saying at all that you'll have to mod it—in fact it's highly unlikely. The aeron isn't any lower than any other chair out there as far as I can tell. But I am saying there is the option to mod it if you have to (unlike some other chairs where it is impossible).

          It won't affect the warranty. When you claim warranty (if at all) it's very simple to reverse the mod.

    • MementoMori on 21/04/2011 - 11:30

      I found mine a bit low. I solved this by doing two things

      Getting the larger 3" wheels, raising it an inch or so, and getting a plastic mat thing to wheel on which stops my chair from sinking into the carpet.

      Note - Do not get an Ikea one, they are CRAP - mine broke as soon as I put the chair on it.

      • MementoMori on 21/04/2011 - 11:33

        BTW - an AWESOME purchase. Checkout the other pimpin' chairs you can get - http://www.sitbackandrelax.com.au

        I recommend going down to try them out. The Aeron is quite old now, and those newer ones are great too.

      • anthony on 21/04/2011 - 13:02

        Note - Do not get an Ikea one, they are CRAP - mine broke as soon as I put the chair on it.

        I have an ikea one and it is still in one piece after several years. It is possible you got a faulty one.

        • morphio on 21/04/2011 - 13:46

          I think he means the wheels

        • frinik on 21/04/2011 - 14:44

          If hes talking about the carpet protector, i got an office works one that was completely trashed after 1 year..cracks everywhere…
          got one online for cheaper…a year later and still going strong…
          also re: office works chairs…theres no comparison…the chair i got from office works broke in 3 months..i think i was reclining too much in it.
          needless to say..i try not to buy anything from office works anymore.

  • TimeOrMoney on 20/04/2011 - 18:54

    Is this Aeron the "fully loaded" model?

  • zzz on 20/04/2011 - 19:09
    -6

    Top Chair review of the herman millar Aeron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut4nVqvlJbU

    • Radar on 20/04/2011 - 20:01
      +4

      once is enough.

  • Sirocco on 20/04/2011 - 19:28

    They look cool, but seriously that is just way to much unless your totally loaded. Plenty of cheaper chairs would be ergonomic.

  • MattyD on 20/04/2011 - 20:11

    My office splashed out for these as part of a very pricey refurb.

    Heavenly.

  • Saiya on 20/04/2011 - 20:19

    Very nice price! Always wanted an Aeron.

  • slix_88 on 20/04/2011 - 20:48

    Got one at work and can confirm that it is not all it seems. It's extremely uncomfortable with not enough back support. Even called in an ergonomics specialist and got him to perfectly adjust it for my build and it's still crappy. It's only for show of seniority…nothing else. I opted for an independent back reclining chair with proper cushioning.

    This is only a warning. I can confirm that they are the most detested chairs at work when it comes to comfort.

    • abc on 20/04/2011 - 21:06

      Maybe u got the wrong size. There are S, M and L sizes available.

      • slix_88 on 20/04/2011 - 22:35

        All chairs on my level (maybe 40 or so) are the same size. If anything, i assume they'd be medium. For a guy of average height, shouldn't the size be suitable?

        Also, when the back of the chair is in recline mode, the bottom moves together with the back as you recline, but in a different fashion. Also, it's almost impossible to keep it in recline mode on a permanent basis and do typing. My current chair doesn't have that problem.

        • camelgrass on 20/04/2011 - 22:44
          +1

          I think you're doing it wrong if typing when in recline mode.

        • slix_88 on 20/04/2011 - 23:16
          +1

          @camelgrass: By recline mode, I mean the back of the seat adjusts to your movement. I tend to keep it in "free movement" as I feel it's most comfortable that way. Plus, it surprisingly helps with my posture.

        • sleepy120 on 20/04/2011 - 23:21

          reclined typing is fine if you can touch-type

        • grizz_li on 21/04/2011 - 03:16

          If you want to know what size they are, you can tell by putting your hand on the top of the frame.
          Right in the middle, behind the back of the frame at the top, there are plastic ribs.
          1 rib = small, 2 ribs = medium & 3 ribs for large.

        • camelgrass on 21/04/2011 - 13:31

          reclined typing is fine if you can touch-type

          Not really. Your spine should be as straight and upright as possible, ie. neck / head and back in alignment and back supported at the same time. If you're sitting and using a computer terminal and reclining than alignment is not possible.

        • foggy10 on 21/04/2011 - 13:51

          I'm not so sure about that.

          Read this interesting report where they did an active MRI on pressures on the lower back spine as people sat: http://www.rsna.org/rsna/media/pr2006-2/aching_back-2.cfm

          Turns out reclining at 135 degrees is the optimal position for less back stress. You can even try it out by reclining now rather than sitting straight.

        • camelgrass on 22/04/2011 - 00:19

          Thanks for the link. I wish I knew more about this topic to evaluate whether the study is comprehensive in its findings.

          From:
          http://rsna2006.rsna.org/rsna2006/V2006/conference/event_dis…

          This position was shown to cause least 'strain' on the lumbar spine…

          As you alude to and in the report it refers to less strain on the lumbar (lower) spine. For many people—including myself—the main issue is not the lumbar spine but tension and pain in the neck and shoulders resulting in headaches and fatigue. I'm more concerned in proper seating posture to negate these symptoms. I'm not sure reclining back 45 degrees from vertical is going to help my neck, but I will try, you never know!

        • stumo on 22/04/2011 - 16:44

          @camelgrass

          If you do suffer from a really sore neck (I did for a few years before it became truly unbearable) try these neck strengthening exercises…
          http://www.physioadvisor.com.au/8121450/neck-strengthening-e…

          They really worked for me and are so easy to do (once every second day or so). 3+ years of pain and suffering was gone within 2 weeks. Give it a go, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

        • camelgrass on 23/04/2011 - 12:50

          Thanks stumo, I'll definitely give it a go. Much appreciated!

    • chir0nex on 20/04/2011 - 21:47

      Yeah maybe work got you aeron clones or you just have a weird back.

      • slix_88 on 20/04/2011 - 22:36

        Last I heard, the chairs were bought for about $1400 a pop so I doubt they're fake. They also look exactly like the one in the picture. As for my back, I guess most of my colleagues backs are also weird :P

        • eug on 21/04/2011 - 00:01
          +2

          Yeah, you're all weird.

          Seriously though, chairs are just like shoes. Some shoes fit some people perfectly and are absolutely fantastic, while they fit other people horribly.

          There will always be people who aren't suited to certain chairs. The one at my work is far more comfortable than the generic one i had before, but I think a chair could be even more comfortable. That's why people should always try out a chair first before buying it, especially a $1,400 chair.

          The Aeron is a great chair but it's not the ultimate, and no chair design will fit every single person on the planet with the same amount of comfort.

  • quarrymaster on 20/04/2011 - 21:02

    Does it feel too cold in winter?

    • MementoMori on 21/04/2011 - 11:35

      It can a little. The love handles are exposed with the mesh back. Nothing a jumper or space heater can't fix.

  • jordan5 on 20/04/2011 - 21:13

    bye bye pay cheque, bye bye officework chair

    • MementoMori on 21/04/2011 - 11:36

      Trust me it's worth it. I had a top of the line $300 Ikea chair… just gave it to my brother. Waste of $300.

  • grizz_li on 20/04/2011 - 21:39

    Its normally around $1300 new from Aussie stores so this price is pretty good.
    It doesn't feel cold in winter for me. Maybe because I don't have a freezing room. Who knows.
    Afaik, get the wrong size model and you'll be uncomfortable.
    Theres a chart on Herman Miller's site that'll tell you which model you're suppose to get.
    Its measured according to your height and weight.
    3 sizes to choose from.
    Mine feels absolutely like the best desk chair I've ever sat on. (Could be because my experiences aren't as vast as some of you guys.)
    My previous chair was a Ikea $250 one and it was comfortable but only lasted 3 or 4 years.
    I'll pick up another one for the family if I weren't so broke now.

    • TimeOrMoney on 20/04/2011 - 23:16

      General Dimensions

      Size A Size B Size C
      H 41" 42" 45"
      W 25.75" 27" 28.25"
      D 15.75" 17" 18.5"

      Reference chart for your weight and height here.

  • v1c on 20/04/2011 - 21:43

    In terms of ergonomics, does anyone know how these chairs compare to the saddle seats? http://www.bambach.com.au/

    • dkslim on 20/04/2011 - 21:54
      +1

      Saddle seats are only suitable for women, for obvious reasons.

      • nerobass on 21/04/2011 - 09:07

        hmmm they don't think so look at the website and the photo gallery… those guys look totally comfortable

    • Super8Tab on 21/04/2011 - 14:29

      we have one of those at work and it's uncomfortable to sit on it (for us guys) but the girls with us love it, i sit on my ikea chair and my bum is sore no lie, how can i convince the office to invest in these chairs ahhhh

  • dkslim on 20/04/2011 - 21:55

    Where did the OP get this Living Edge advertisement from? Is it a sale for only one Living Edge office in Australia, or all of them? There's no such advert on their website.

  • smoothymcmellow on 21/04/2011 - 08:33
    +3

    Just some honest feedback, my work has the Mirra chairs as standard for 250 office staff, so many people have back issues and in a recent meeting it came up and everyone was blaming the chair, one of my colleagues took a different more simple chair from upstairs and it improved a lot for him.

    I think the key with these chairs is you need an ergonomic assessments done, they can move and bend in every which way and if setup incorrectly can cause problems and you may as well have a $5 chair you found in someone's hard rubbish in Brunswick , if setup right they are great.

  • dlcx on 21/04/2011 - 09:23

    omg I seriously just got my Mirra chair delivered yesterday (from Sit back relax) after waiting a few months for it to get imported from US - wanted a different colour from graphite.
    First thing I noticed was that it was very heavy and really well built.
    I paid $1200 for the fully loaded Mirra which was pretty decent price at the time.
    If you can get a fully loaded Mirra for $800 (albeit you can't choose any colours as it's only for the graphite option) thats a great price

  • kayeby on 21/04/2011 - 15:55

    Fantastic deal! I picked one up just then from Living Edge in Richmond. I've been looking for an Aeron for about a month, but the lowest Living Edge would go was $1375. I was a week away from buying one at Sit Back and Relax for $1245, so you've saved me a bundle.

    I'm not sure what a "fully loaded" Aeron is, but the one in this deal does include the tilt limiter, posture fit, and adjustable arms. I confirmed with the salesperson on the phone and also in store. From recollection, delivery was $66, but the sales assistant gave me the option to pick mine up.

    This is an extremely good price for the Aeron. Thank you so much!

    • camelgrass on 21/04/2011 - 16:33

      Thanks for the update. Does yours include the polished base as well?

      What's the posture fit? Is that the part for the arch of the back?

    • grizz_li on 22/04/2011 - 13:13

      Fully loaded normally means leather arm rests + titanium base instead of graphite.

  • Livert on 21/04/2011 - 17:45

    Can the Aeron seat tilt be adjusted independently of the backrest? I like my seats to have a permanent, slightly upward tilt.

    • camelgrass on 21/04/2011 - 18:32

      Good question, I would like to know this too. The tilt of the seat can be adjusted to suit, but from from what I've read the Aeron Kinemat system stipulates that the seat pan and back rest pivot together. There is a back rest tilt limiting mechanism so I imagine it could be set up to suit as you require.

      The problem with these expensive chairs is that it may feel great when you try it in-store, but like shoes, once you use them everyday your opinion on comfort levels can change ever so quickly!

      • KiwiRoo on 21/04/2011 - 20:28

        They can't be adjusted independently, but as you said, the seat and the backrest moves together (tilt back and tilt forward). I think this is great because your back is always properly supported no matter how you move.

        A lot of ppl that complain the seat isn't good or not comfortable are most likely not sitting on it correctly. More than likely their butt slides down the chair so, no matter how expensive the chair is, they will never feel comfortable sitting on it.

  • womble on 21/04/2011 - 20:58

    these are great chairs, but I'd suggest any prospective buyers for home use get them second hand from an office furniture clearance place. I picked up 2 of the Aeron for $150 each 3 years back. Look for small to medium sized companies that are moving.

    Also important is make sure you try out the different sizes, my gf got the small (she's 5'4" and small build) and it fits her well (it's comfortable for me as well), I'm 5'11" and average build and the medium is fine for me.

    They're such high quality even after a couple of years in a busy trading floor they still look new.

    • dkslim on 21/04/2011 - 21:44
      +1

      Which office furniture clearance place? I've been looking every month but they never show up :( I suspect insiders buy them straight away before they even get the chance to be put up for public sale.

      • camelgrass on 21/04/2011 - 21:52

        Yeah, if you picked up some Aeron chairs for $150 each you were certainly very lucky.

        People know the value of these chairs and even second-hand they are worth a fair bit.

      • womble on 22/04/2011 - 08:55

        Grays Online had some in the past, and far cheaper than prices above.

        I was lucky but I didn't go to a 2nd hand office furniture place for mine, I got in before them and bought straight from the company that was moving. If you know of someone that works in an accounting, law, media or finance company they are likely to use them, keep an ear to the ground for when they move offices. You can pick up more than just chairs, usually a heap of stuff for free that the company has to pay $100s to dispose of.

        • dkslim on 22/04/2011 - 11:51
          +2

          Doesn't always work. I found a place that was moving, had 2 worn-out aeron chairs, but they wanted $800 for each, way too much!

        • camelgrass on 22/04/2011 - 12:16

          Even if I kept my ear to the ground for the next 10 years I doubt that I could get an Aeron chair in decent condition for $150 or less.

          All depends on the contacts you have I guess.

          Far cheaper than $150 at graysonline including buyers premium and freight? Wow.

  • dkslim on 21/04/2011 - 21:47

    There's been a lot of talk recently, about sitting being bad for health. It's recommended that people use standing desks with a bar-stool like chair, so they can alternate easily between sitting and standing. Also there are ex-Aeron users on the net saying they prefer newer "free moving" chairs like the Swopper and HAG Capisco. Has anyone tried these other alternative ways of working at the desk? Do they work? It would be a shame to sink $990 to buy an Aeron only to discover that it is actually bad for health.

    • anthony on 21/04/2011 - 23:49

      Have a read of this article (Page 2 mentions the Aeron) http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_19/b41770712…

      And also this http://www.rsna.org/rsna/media/pr2006-2/aching_back-2.cfm

      • dkslim on 22/04/2011 - 11:43

        The 2 articles come to different conclusions (one says don't sit still at all, one says sit at 135 degree angle). Which is more correct?

        • camelgrass on 22/04/2011 - 12:09

          I would take everything you read with a grain of salt. For sure, educate yourself by researching articles, but at the end of the day you have to make up your own mind what is best for yourself.

          Regarding the research involving sitting at a thigh-trunk angle of 135 degrees, well it could be true to an extent but that study is hardly exhaustive. Just because there is supposedly less pressure on the lumbar spine at that angle does not inherently mean that it is the best task-desk sitting position. There are too many variables to take into account to make such a simplistic conclusion.

          And regarding standing, well I don't doubt that standing is potentially better than sitting for longer periods but there are practicality issues involved. Do you really want to have bar-high tables and desks everywhere around your home and workplace?

          It's best to go to a physio or ergonomics specialist for professional advice on the best seating posture. Advice can change depending on your particular needs/problems/body type.

        • anthony on 22/04/2011 - 15:20

          The 2 articles come to different conclusions (one says don't sit still at all, one says sit at 135 degree angle). Which is more correct?

          One article says that we are not designed to sit for long periods and the other says if you need to sit then you are best sitting at 135 degrees.

  • SupersawLead on 28/04/2011 - 17:48

    Thank you so much, I got myself an Aeron!

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