Should I Buy This $570 Tech Fast "Gaming" PC?

N1NJ4W4RR10R on 02/11/2018 - 16:13

G'day ozbargainers, it's me again ;)

Long story short I need a PC, a gaming PC at that (I play lots of games) and came across Techfastau a bit ago. have been prowling their offers, and this one really caught my eye (link below).

Seems like a pretty good offer, no? Only big issues would be the case, SSD, power supply and MoBo (assuming the specs listed below is true).

Case - I can live with it. Small ish form factor, so a plus for me. I tend to treat things well enough that it wouldn't break. USB 2.0 ports are deal-able.

SSD - These seemingly have a 2 year waaranty, so I'd be fine trusting them (I back up everything anyway). Plus, would likely upgrade to a larger SSD in the future.

Power supply - My big concern, though I think it should be fine. This'll be the first item I switch out, but I don't believe it should go haywire if I don't go crazy?

MoBo - Not familiar with biostar, though I've seen a few of their MoBo's. Any crazy concerns or no?

I'm not missing anything, am I? Would this be a good buy?

Deal:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ryzen-3-2200G-120GB-SSD-8GB-DDR4…

Thanks for any help, is always greatly appreciated.

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  • bargainhunter87 on 02/11/2018 - 16:19
    -3

    WOW amazing deal, I paid well over $1000 for this - yes buy it

    • jiberz on 02/11/2018 - 16:30
      +6

      If you paid 1000 you got ripped.

      • N1NJ4W4RR10R on 02/11/2018 - 16:58

        Parts woulda been better quality, but it'd probably end up at around a grand (assuming poster paid 100+ for windows)

  • djkelly69 on 02/11/2018 - 16:32
    +3

    There have been a few of the Techfastau/eBay deals posted on here in the last few months. I think general consensus has been good deals, but quality of components is an issue longterm (ie. if you will be looking to upgrade later).

  • ozbjunkie on 02/11/2018 - 16:38
    +2

    I'd go for a rx 580 deal as was recently posted for around 700 if the budget will stretch. Will be better for ultra settings on 1080p.

    But for 500 bucks that system is a steal.

    Pretty sure they have a rep on Ozbargain - might be able to PM regarding the ram.

    That PC comes with a single stick of ram, so no dual channel, but my reading says 10-20% performance hit at most.

    Either tell them to keep the ram and give you a bigger SSD, or give you a second stick of ram and forget about the SSD (good luck with that though, ram too expensive at the moment).

  • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 16:41
    +1

    If you’re not a heavy pc user then it’ll be fine.

  • Smashed Avo on 02/11/2018 - 16:42
    +2

    Damn that's cheap. If you're looking to get 2-3 years of use out of the whole system definitely go for this deal, if you're looking to hold onto the system for 4+ years upgrading individual components as you go I'd invest the extra money to get a system with higher quality PSU etc.

  • Jimmycfc on 02/11/2018 - 17:55
    +1

    That SSD is WAY too small, its not 2010, a 1TB now costs around $200 bucks.
    Also 8gb RAM is too small these days, bump up to 16gb

    • N1NJ4W4RR10R on 02/11/2018 - 17:59

      Odds are I'll stick to single channel then throw in an extra 8gb when I have the money.

      Agreed on the SSD, will grab a 1tb HDD then throw in a much larger SSD when I get the money.

      General point, I've got some upgrades in mind for when I have the money, so take the deal as a "I'm a broke boi with just a laptop should I buy"

      • Jimmycfc on 02/11/2018 - 18:02
        +1

        If you don't need the laptop i would sell it and upgrade the SSD, you will fit your OS and half a game on there.
        The speed difference from HDD to SSD is insane and you will notice it playing games.
        Apart from that its not a bad PC.

        • N1NJ4W4RR10R on 02/11/2018 - 18:08

          Haha! I wish I didn't need the thing, but unfortunately need it for school and during travels (happens enough to make a laptop worthwhile).

          Laptop has an SSD so I know the difference already! Odds are if I grab it it'll be around the X-mas time I'd be able to upgrade.

          Should also say my current gaming system is the PS4…with a 500gb HDD (tmk). So for games I should be able to deal for the time till then.

          Alternatively I might just throw in the extra $30 ish for the 500gb SSD rather than the tb HDD.

      • Beanvee on 02/11/2018 - 19:55
        +2

        If you turn off hibernation and page file you can keep the used space pretty low. Only used 40 of my 120.

    • onevstheworld on 02/11/2018 - 18:15
      +1

      Also, a WD Green SSD has probably the worst performance of any mainstream SSD you can get. I shudder to think how a "Techfast" SSD would perform.

      • N1NJ4W4RR10R on 02/11/2018 - 18:31

        Doesn't appear the majority of SSDs function differently in real world use. Big difference would be longevity, which admittedly I'm slightly worried about.

        Only slightly, because like I said I'll likely switch it eventually. Unlikely it'll be around long enough to die.

        Just curious…SSDs probably aren't something I'd want to resell, are they?

        • onevstheworld on 03/11/2018 - 16:19
          +1

          Mostly true, and definitely true if you're moving from a HDD to SSD. But the cheapest SSDs are DRAM-less designs, which are an inferior design to DRAM designs. Historically they were pretty bad, although it may be a bit better now
          https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dramless-ssd-roundup,48…
          E.g Kingston 240gb A400 (DRAM-less) has much slower write speeds, lower endurance and lesser warranty period vs a UV500 (DRAM)

          Also, not sure where Techfast source their SSDs from; but some brand-less Chinese SSDs can have truly horrifying performance
          https://youtu.be/v7YBCynA-b0

  • Flanders on 02/11/2018 - 18:51

    Yerr.. nahhh

    • N1NJ4W4RR10R on 02/11/2018 - 19:03

      Why so?

      • Flanders on 02/11/2018 - 19:04

        Just because ;)

        • N1NJ4W4RR10R on 02/11/2018 - 19:06
          +1

          Haha!

          Enjoy your day stranger :P

  • Godric on 02/11/2018 - 19:06
    +1

    You had answers in your first post no?
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/406840

    • N1NJ4W4RR10R on 02/11/2018 - 19:12

      Few things different with this one, specs are much more locked in, AMD build, price, lack of peripherals etc. Also been over a month (?), So wanted to maoe sure nothing's changed.

      Admittedly also some nerves, $600'd be a pain to lose, so really want to make sure I'm not doing something stupid.

      Mind that, I reckon I'll be grabbing this one. Will make sure to update the thread when it arrives, the parts and the like.

      • Godric on 02/11/2018 - 19:34
        +1

        I'm still oppose to buying complete builds in general let alone off ebay, but if you're comfortable with it go for it

  • p1 ama on 03/11/2018 - 00:04
    +1

    Seems like a pretty good offer, no? Only big issues would be the case, SSD, power supply and MoBo (assuming the specs listed below is true).

    Yeah, it's a good offer if you spec it out part-for-part.

    Case - I can live with it. Small ish form factor, so a plus for me. I tend to treat things well enough that it wouldn't break. USB 2.0 ports are deal-able.

    I have one of these cases. They're fine. It depends on what you want from a case. If it's anything more than just a few pieces of metal to hold your components, then you can always get a nicer case and move the components over.

    SSD - These seemingly have a 2 year waaranty, so I'd be fine trusting them (I back up everything anyway). Plus, would likely upgrade to a larger SSD in the future.

    SSDs aren't like cars, they don't break easily and they all buy their NAND from the same manufacturers. Of all the things that could fail, I'd put the SSD at near the bottom. Also pretty cheap, a 120GB SSD is like $30 now, so you'll be fine even if this breaks in a year.

    Power supply - My big concern, though I think it should be fine. This'll be the first item I switch out, but I don't believe it should go haywire if I don't go crazy?

    Nothing power hungry in here, so I doubt it'd be an issue. If it really concerns you, get a decent 430W PSU for around $100 and you'll be good to go. I agree this would be the biggest issue out of all the components.

    MoBo - Not familiar with biostar, though I've seen a few of their MoBo's. Any crazy concerns or no?

    Not really, I wouldn't say they're any less reliable than any other budget board.

    I'm not missing anything, am I? Would this be a good buy?

    I think it's a good buy. You get what you pay for. It's a $570 PC with decent performance. Some people spend more than that on one component alone. The question isn't whether you can build a better system or use better parts (obviously you can). It's whether you are willing to pay that extra. If not, this is a good buy.

  • MagicMushroom on 03/11/2018 - 00:12
    +1

    I bought thier i3/rx570 system posted on ozbargain just few weeks ago. My system had faulty gpu and needed to send it back. It was very easy process and took them 3 days (pick up from home and back) to fix.

    Also, teckfast is probably under origin pc (said on shipping label) so that's a plus.

  • Paraya on 03/11/2018 - 11:00
    +1

    If you are after good graphics and speed this PC will never be close to a X box or PlayStation for games

  • AlienC on 04/11/2018 - 06:51
    +1

    I went the sff refurbished route.

    Was a fun little project and as a person who likes to squeeze as much as they can out of underdog performers it was perfect for me.

    Pick any sub $300 sff refurbished unit

    • GTX 1050Ti 4gb low profile card ($200-300)
    • 8gb ram stick to make it 16gb minimum ($50-100)
    • hdd/ssd as needed heaps of deals for whatever you need keep checking SSD and HDD pages (my picks are ssd Samsung 860 EVO $200/TB - hdd Seagate External Hubs $30-40/TB)
    • optional add DVD combo drive and network card for WiFi Bluetooth connectivity options
    • optional add external speakers from gumtree
    • optional add 1080p 60Hz monitor from gumtree
    • optional add webcam/microphone from gumtree/ebay
    • headset, mouse, keyboard from ebay

    I did this and got most stuff from gumtree or deals on ozbargain very very cheap that if I told you you would be crying.. my machine is a beast for an old spec HP elite compaq 8200 with overkill ram and storage specs and also not too big size wise but it is very heavy and not at all light.

    For budget mid range products it runs all currently 350+ installed games nicely yeah I bought a juicy 8TB HDD from Amazon U.S. and it is nearly 6TB full.. the SSD site reserved for the OS and some non gaming programs only.

    I like to push my units to the limit and do tests on pc myths like the big one today is you need a SSD for everything.. nope only for booting up and small productivity programs even then it is only like an extra couple of seconds of waiting which you just use room multitask anyways and you save a lot.

    You honestly don't need anything higher than an i3-8100/2200G right now unless you are doing video/image/editing/rendering or intensive cpu/gpu work on it full time by which then you would be already researching those workloads and comparing cost benefit analysis.

    But if like most people you only need it just for gaming, media consumption, crazy heavy 100+ tab browsing the above will do just fine at 1080p 60hz. Only if you are hitting 1440p or higher will you need something more than a 1060 6gb / RX 580 8gb and faster cpu than a i3-8100/2200G.

    This is the best value gaming machine you can make these days.

    For same price you can get i5-8400/2600 1080/1080ti prebuilt but terrible everything else I have not seen those deals anymore around but they $1400-1600 when they were alive before just check the desktop computer ozbargain pages.

    My specific PC is more of an experiment to see how long these parts will last me until I see some unplayable games at 1080p medium and when parts start to die under extreme usage case scenario.

    Built and up and running in July 2018 been going hard since then.

    • hamwhisperer on 05/11/2018 - 14:24
      +1

      When did you buy a HDD from Amazon USA? I didn't think they ship to us anymore?

      • AlienC on 05/11/2018 - 16:49
        +1

        This was before July 2018.

        Yeah I was very lucky. Managed to get a few stuff from Amazon U.S. before the new law change.

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