eBay Pre Built PC, Am I Missing Something?

LN1NJ4W4RR10R on 03/10/2018 - 18:53
Last edited 05/10/2018 - 11:01 by 2 other users

Edit: Just sent Techfast a message via eBay. Namely to find out what the Techfast power supply is (lets face it, it's gonna be the one!), what the frequency of the RAM is (RAM speed isn't listed :/) and whether the 1060 is actually in the bundle (because of the bit about PC upgrades, just to confirm whether or not it is part of the bundle)

Their reply

**Good morning, and thanks for your enquiry.

The TechFast supply is currently not rated. There is an option for an 80+ Gold PSU in PC Upgrades
The RAM is 2400MHz
The PC Upgrades section is standard across all systems, so the 1060 is more there for systems that don't have a GPU.

Kind regards,**

Edit: And as if to make it better, even the simple eBay 5% off brings it under ~~$600~~ $700

Am I missing something here? Seems like a bit of a crazy deal. Been intending on building my own, but it's come out $500~ more (albiet counting way better peripherals)

I'm honestly tempted to grab this one unless someone can give me a good reason not to. Doesn't appear to be missing anything, all (important) parts appear to be good brands.

And yeah, I know those peripherals are probably garbage. If I do go for it I'll just go the above mentioned deal. It's something like $30 to $50 more expensive then the one without peripherals and gives me a back-up keyboard, mouse, and gives me a second monitor for all those….monitory stuff.

There's also an i5 8400 version, but it's $200~ more expensive. By that point I'm better off just selling off the i3 and buying an i5, lol.

(Sorry, first thread. Just seen this and am baffled)

EDIT: This is the list of part brands they gave in the item description.

RAM: TeamGroup, Crucial

Motherboard: Biostar, ASRock, ASUS

Power Supply: Thermaltake, Corsair, TechFast

Graphics Card: Biostar, ASUS, MSI

Solid State Drive: Western Digital, OSCOO

Hard Drive: Seagate, Western Digital

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notfrodo on 03/10/2018 - 19:07

+1

They are targeting volume here. PC component margins are wafer thin. This price is pretty good.

The power supply is probably garbage but that is fine as long as you are not planning to overclock or anything.
Also remember that you are probably getting a bottom on the rung SSD. They dont mention the model number in the listing.
And the 120 is just enough for OS + some programs.

The i3 8100 is WAY better than the i3s of last gen.

All in all not too bad.
- N1NJ4W4RR10R on 03/10/2018 - 19:15
  
  Assumed the power supplies would be mediocre, but they're from good brands so shouldn't explode.
  
  Don't think I'd be able to overclock the i3 anyway? At least not with the board they have.
  
  The SSD is listed as either WD or OSCOO. Never heard of the latter, but WD apparently have excellent quality. I won't be doing anything requiring phenomenal speeds anyway.
  
  Definitely agree on size though. Will have to replace that as well with a larger drive when they get cheaper.
  - HighAndDry on 03/10/2018 - 19:36
    
    Assumed the power supplies would be mediocre, but they're from good brands so shouldn't explode.
    
    Well… it's [good brand], [good brand], [HOME BRAND]. Check when it arrives to be safe. Shouldn't be too much of an issue, it's not a power hungry build and even only half the rated 500W is on the 12V rail, it should still be fine, but
    best to know what you're working with.
    - N1NJ4W4RR10R on 03/10/2018 - 19:39
      
      Naturally. Would hate for a bad PSU to take the good parts with it!
      
      Will have to do more research into there homebrand as well. Based off their reviews I'd potentially be fine trusting it if it is the homebrand.
    - ronnknee on 04/10/2018 - 19:36
      
      Haha I bet only the home brand one is used. The other brands are thrown in to make it sound possibly good.
stratbargain on 03/10/2018 - 19:15

+2

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LtKN29

The cheapest building it yourself is going to come to $1000-$1200 or so.

So the price is bloody good. I'd be concerned about the build and I can guarantee they will using the lesser known/cheaper brands across the build, but their feedback is good overall so probably worth the gamble.

If you're confident to rebuild it when it arrives then I'd say go for it. I'd also be testing the 1060 to make sure it's not a fake.
- N1NJ4W4RR10R on 03/10/2018 - 19:18
  
  The listing actually gives the brands they use for the important parts (will throw that in the OP).
  
  But yeah, thought this myself. Was intending on building my own but any decent system comes out at $900~ without peripherals…
  
  As with the rip off thing, will definitely be making sure it's legit. But based off the reviews for the seller it seems they're actually legit.
  - stratbargain on 03/10/2018 - 19:20
    
    +1
    
    I can guarantee they will using the lesser known/cheaper brands across the build. i.e the ram will be TeamGroup not Crucial. The power supply will be Techfast, not Thermaltake/Corsair, the graphics card will be Biostar not ASUS and the solid state will be OSCOO not Western Digital.
    
    That OSCOO 120GB for example has a write speed of 150MB and read of 320MB which is pretty piss poor for an SSD.
    
    But with that said, assuming the 1060 and i3 are genuine, the rest is almost free at that price. So you could upgrade a few parts after the fact and still be very far ahead.
    - N1NJ4W4RR10R on 03/10/2018 - 19:23
      
      Techfast appears to be their own brand. Would be slightly worried at that. Besides that, I'd be switching out the SSD eventually anyway and from a bit of research the rest appear to be relatively good brands anyway (I'm assuming the RAM'd be 2400mhz at max)
stratbargain on 03/10/2018 - 19:22

Also read the description and be very careful (confirm the 1060 is actually included)

" For an optimal gaming and graphics performance, we recommend upgrading to a Nvidia GTX 1060 graphics card."
- N1NJ4W4RR10R on 03/10/2018 - 19:25
  
  Yeah, will be confirming that if I end up deciding to buy. Picked that up myself, but seems more like that's just their standard bio as it seems to be pretty clearly stated everywhere else it's in the build.
HighAndDry on 03/10/2018 - 19:22

That's a nice deal. I mean - expect bargain basement 'brands', but the specs are solid and if all you're doing is gaming, this is a very good build for the purpose.

I second stratbargain that you should probably rebuild it when you get it - not that their build quality is necessarily bad, but shipping can knock things loose. Invest in some thermal paste and maybe reseat the CPU cooler even. And check the PSU brand so you know what you're dealing with, but again - you're not going to be doing much more than just gaming on it (don't OC), so even then it won't matter too much. There's only so much power a GTX1060 and an i3 build can draw, no matter how many hard drives you add.
- N1NJ4W4RR10R on 03/10/2018 - 19:27
  
  Yeah, no chance I'll OC. Would be switching from consoles (lol)
  
  Will have to invest in a proper cooler after I see how kuch clearance there is. I've heard intel stock coolers suck.
  - HighAndDry on 03/10/2018 - 19:32
    
    I've heard intel stock coolers suck.
    
    Yes.
    
    Just…. yes. Of the things to upgrade, that's near top of the list, but also:
    
    Check with the seller if they can give just 1 x 8GB RAM, so you can add a second 8GB RAM stick later; and
    
    Maybe get a bigger SSD because 120GB will fit your OS and some programs/games and that'll be it.
    
    And obviously peripherals.
    - N1NJ4W4RR10R on 03/10/2018 - 19:37
      
      +1
      
      xD
      
      Comes with 1x8 stock. Will be picking up an extra 8 gb for sure (eventually) if I grab it.
      
      Yeah, will upgrade that sooner or later to something bigger/better. The PC comes with a 1tb HDD as well…not great, but as someone who's dealt with the oh so lovely 500gb of the ps4s HDD for 4 years I can deal with it a little longer when kt comes to this.
      
      Yeah. Monitor will be nice as a second, but keyboard and mouse will be delegated to "in case ~~rage~~ accidental breakage.
Axelstrife on 03/10/2018 - 19:59

+2

No rear exhaust case fans at all.
Case is REALLY shitty (it's $29.99 AUD)
No Operating system (they can be has cheaply though)

Looking at the parts brand section i notice theres a shitty almost unknown brand in most catagories
techfast Power supply (they are $35AUD for 550w PSU)
Biostar GPU and Motherboard (another very cheap brand)
OSCOO SSD (another completely unknown brand)

They say depending on stock but i bet they did the description like this to give people hope they will get good brand parts (i highly doubt it) "Individual component brand requests cannot be catered to at this stage.." OFC it can't lolol
- N1NJ4W4RR10R on 03/10/2018 - 20:13
  
  99.5% positive reviews though. Litterally 6 negative reviews over the past 12 months.
  
  Bar the PSU though, I'm fine with middling/mediocre parts for that price. And even then, it's a good enough price to grab another anyway
  - Axelstrife on 03/10/2018 - 20:32
    
    Majority of people who buy prebuilts wouldn't have any idea about computers so as long as it turns on and works fine they're none the wiser that they have shity parts or inadequate case cooling.
    - N1NJ4W4RR10R on 03/10/2018 - 20:41
      
      +1
      
      Out of thousands of reviews though?
      
      Don't get me wrong, I'd still be confirming that stuff, screw risking it.
      
      If I end up grabbing it I'll make sure to update you all by the way.
      - AdosHouse on 03/10/2018 - 21:54
        
        @N1NJ4W4RR10R: Yeah mate there are a shit tonne of people out there who have no idea about computers.
        
        I can go and talk to 10 random people and I can almost guarantee 8 of them wouldn't know who AMD or Intel are.
        
        As someone who builds his own PC, I'd never use those low end brands. Like a "Techfast" PSU wouldn't go within arcing distance of my PC.
        
        Like someone posted earlier, they will be using those lower class brands in each category. This way people will think they might get the better brands, but the seller didn't lie.
    - Diji1 on 03/10/2018 - 22:27
      
      they're none the wiser that they have shity parts
      
      None the wiser about what? They have a working computer, what is losing money for "non shitty" parts going to get these people?
      - N1NJ4W4RR10R on 03/10/2018 - 22:31
        
        @Diji1: Think the poster meant they think they're getting great parts due to marketing, but are actually getting mediocre/bad parts.
Godric on 03/10/2018 - 23:01

Your name reminds me off Modern Warfare 2 days
- N1NJ4W4RR10R on 04/10/2018 - 09:43
  
  Made the Username years ago now, lol. Kept it since :shrug:
AlienC on 04/10/2018 - 00:02

+1

It's ok but you can definitely go lower if you gumtree ebay this but then you gotta do it yourself do for peace of mind and luxury it is ok but for example I saw a titan x going for $350 before which is probably what they are valuing this 1060 6gb at so there is definitely room for improvement in the value department if you do it yourself but for convenience and peace of mind it is ok.
- N1NJ4W4RR10R on 04/10/2018 - 09:45
  
  +1
  
  Probably, but I'd have to run with the used market. At least for my first I'd want to avoid a build on individual used items.
  - AlienC on 04/10/2018 - 12:42
    
    To each their own I am personally not that invested in my pic's so it is kind of like an experiment for me. I understand the need to go new though as I like my mobiles new or in very good condition.
  - HighAndDry on 04/10/2018 - 17:08
    
    +1
    
    I build my own and it's bad enough trouble-shooting if it doesn't POST. I can't imagine how bad it could get if it was a build of all used parts. Different from buying 1 used part, and then if you swap it in and it doesn't work, 1. you have the old part to swap back at least, and 2. you'll know that it's that part that's the problem.
bargdebarg on 04/10/2018 - 06:16

+1

It's probably built by the guy from The Verge…
- N1NJ4W4RR10R on 04/10/2018 - 09:44
  
  +1
  
  Haha!
  
  I'll have to make sure the system isn't swimming in thermal past ;)
Geekomatic on 04/10/2018 - 14:46

$729 - 5% = $692.55

How'd you get it sub- $600?
- N1NJ4W4RR10R on 04/10/2018 - 19:27
  
  RIP. Meant 700
N1NJ4W4RR10R on 05/10/2018 - 10:35

Techfast just replied to my email.

Good morning, and thanks for your enquiry.

The TechFast supply is currently not rated. There is an option for an 80+ Gold PSU in PC Upgrades
The RAM is 2400MHz
The PC Upgrades section is standard across all systems, so the 1060 is more there for systems that don't have a GPU.

Kind regards,

Will definitely wanna avoid that Techfast power supply then. Either pick up a second or try your luck with the randomness. Should be fine to use if you needed to wait for money, but even then, don't stress it.

Mind that. For the money, still cheaper than even bargain part DIY builds (from what I've seen)

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