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7-Day Ketogenic Diet Meal Plan: Delicious and Easy Keto Recipes To Burn Fat and Gain Energy
How to Lose Belly Fat Fast: For Men and Women (Emma Greens weight loss books Book 3)
How many grams have you roughly been aiming to keep under?
It's usually under 40-50 net carbs.
I always keep it under 30 grams. I've also tried carnivore for a month and have found that the lower the carbs, the better I personally feel. But for most people, under 40-50 grams is ideal.
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Just curious what is your current weight
How much kg did you lose per week
Did you ever plateau or start gaining weight back?
Thanks
TBH I never did it for weight loss. I've always been fit and had what most people would consider a healthy diet. I was just curious about the keto diet and wanted to try it and it was only meant to be a temporary thing. But I felt amazing on it, cured 5 years of tendinitis in my elbows within 3 months, and stopped my energy drink addiction.
FTW indeed. 9 months on it for me. It’s a lifestyle, not a diet.
Reminder that to lose weight, you only need to eat less than your TDEE, not follow a diet created for reducing the severity of seizures.
Oh wow! So simple. Why do we have so many fat people then?
Eating less than your TDEE is very difficult for most people with the current foods we’ve created. My experience with keto has me eating less because i simply don’t get so hungry. Hunger also feels very different, it’s like a soft voice reminding you to eat. Off keto my hunger was a pounding beast in my head. I can also add intermittent fasting and be a little bit “meh” when meal time comes.
I’m also missing 18kgs.
Once you’ve tried keto for a month or two you’ll understand.
Because food tastes good and many people don't have much willpower. Similar reason why we have such huge credit card debt.
Yeh, baby…metabolic syndrome, linked with sedentary lifestyle, frankenfoods and an advertising industry designed to make us consume…
Old willpower ain't got a chance, but hey it's a good story.
Oh wow! So simple. Why do we have so many fat people then?
You're confusing simple and easy. And the answer is obvious, they're eating more than their TDEE. They don't need to follow keto or intermitted fasting to lose weight, just eat less.
Blaming foods for getting fat is childishly irresponsible.
I’d say it’s childish to think it’s easy or simple to eat less than your TDEE and all weight loss problems would be solved. You think most fat people want to be fat?
Of course foods are to blame for most people being fat.
just eat less
Now that’s childish. Not only is it childish, it’s the same message that has been given to fat people for a long time. It’s a message that has no chance against the addictive power of sugar and carbohydrates for a lot of people. Ditch those and you’ll be able to eat less than your TDEE easily.
Nope.
Absolutely the most untrue thing. The simplest way to put why this is untrue is that when you eat a diet high in carbs, specially simple carbs and sugar your insulin is constantly high in response to the massive increase in blood sugar. While your insulin levels are high your body will either just not or try really hard to avoid using stored fat for energy and will instead burn your muscles. You'll lose weight, maybe, but not the weight you want to.
For a better explanation with more science and sources see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcMBm-UVdII
While your insulin levels are high your body will either just not or try really hard to avoid using stored fat for energy and will instead burn your muscles.
That doesn't happen. If it did, we wouldn't have survived as a species when we lacked food for any short amount of period and our bodies cannibalized our only means of securing more.
Stored fat is energy for this exact purpose. Leptin signaling being disruptive and causing food addiction is laughable at best. Nobody is forcing these people to overeat, I know because I was obese.
They are using food as entertainment and will reach for any excuse to continue that, including ignoring physics like thermodynamics and what the purpose of fat storage is.
You can't use stored fat with high insulin. This is a pretty accepted fact.
@deelaroo: Straight up bullshit now? Give it a rest dude. Your cells are constantly using energy with food you eat and oxygen you breathe.
How do you expect to maintain consciousness and normal body temperate exactly?
@philmarcracken: What were you trying to say? It’s like you’re answering completely different posts.
How to Lose Belly Fat
Stop eating sugar and drinking alcohol in large quantities.
PSA, this diet was rated 1.9/5 by a panel of experts. Partly made up of a 3.5/5 score for weight loss, and 1.6/5 for being healthy
Source: https://health.usnews.com/best-diet/keto-diet
YMMV
Maybe you are right. A doctor admits it's the worst diet :)
http://youtu.be/HcvQW-gBKpM
Experts are experts after all.
One doctor shilling a book versus a panel of experts. Anecdotal evidence anyone?
Anyway it's your body. Maybe try the new all liquid melted butter diet. If a sarcastic ninja doctor on Youtube tells you to, they know best.
So instead we should listen the the advice that says half my diet should be carbohydrates. Because for millions of years while humans evolved we didn't kill animals and ate them, we subsided on a diet of bread and pasta. For real look up the food recommendations, all the food pyramid and stuff, they rate carbs, a thing we never had for millions of years, as the second most important food group, the one group you don't even need! Far out it makes me angry how dumb everyone is about this..!
Honestly, you're clutching at straws. My experience with these fad diet people is that they think they've uncovered a grand conspiracy. You haven't. Here's the number one diet, rated by the same panel of experts:
https://health.usnews.com/best-diet/dash-diet
"It emphasizes the foods you've always been told to eat (fruits, veggies, whole grains, lean protein and low-fat dairy), which are high in blood pressure-deflating nutrients like potassium, calcium, protein and fiber. DASH also discourages foods that are high in saturated fat, such as fatty meats, full-fat dairy foods and tropical oils, as well as sugar-sweetened beverages and sweets. "
It doesn't say eat a bunch of white bread. If you choose to stick to your unhealthy diet, good for you. Just don't pretend that you're smarter than everyone, or you've uncovered a conspiracy. You aren't, and you haven't. You've jumped on a bandwagon and it makes you feel special.
Did cave men eat grains? Lean protein? Avoid fat? Our bodies evolved over millions of years to eat a certain way. Then you want to tell me "oh no these scientists advise we eat a bunch of food our bodies were not designed to eat". And I'm clutching at straws?
And it is a conspiracy, sorta. Some scientists cherry picked data to make fat the enemy, not sugar, and now we're here. Simple as if all this advice we're given was right, why do we keep getting fatter and sicker year after year?
You are dead wrong, so wrong it hurts that there are sheep like you in this world who will take the word of a US news site, of paid off doctors and BS, over facts or common sense.
You've jumped on a bandwagon and it makes you feel special.
Yes I do feel special. Learning about fat, cholesterol, carbs, insulin etc. It's like in the movie They Live where he puts on the glasses and sees the real world… It's exactly that. You see how wrong everything is with food, how dumb all these recommendations are. It's so simple, like dead simple; what would a caveman eat - that's what you're meant to eat. Don't need to count calories, don't need to track macros, don't need to buy some book or some diet program BS, just eat food your body was meant to eat and you won't be fat or unhealthy.
@deelaroo: Well at least you admit you're a conspiracy nut. You spelled "Wake up sheeple" wrong though.
i did keto for 2 weeks, i miss the agility it gives you. even though my bmi is 27 i felt like i weighed nothing and was able to move fast and freely but when i stopped keto my stomach was bloated and was too much work to move so now i am stuck on my couch eating chips and pizza
LOL
Stack with the maccaz deals, and maybe break out even :/ lol.
Maccas is keto. I have it all the time.
Burger with no sauce or bun. Perfect.
Or you can order from the condiments menu: 2 egg, 2 bacon, 2 sausage patty and 2 cheese.
If you think that's healthy because it's 'keto' you're kidding yourself
What’s unhealthy about it? No chips, no bun and no sugary sauces.
The only think I would take issue with is the oils used to fry with. Apart from that, if you think there's something wrong, I challenge you to back up your statements.
@pinchies: Lack of fibre, high salt and oil content, processed foods, high saturated fat, lack of nutrients, lack of vegetables
Some of this is because it's fast food though
@greater mimic: Lack of fibre: What do you need fibre for? Fibre is useless to our bodies as a nutrient, its only use is if our bacteria in our digestive tract are able to process it for us. It is not an essential dietary component, but it can have beneficial functions.
High Salt content: Salt raises blood pressure by an insignificant amount, in comparison to other dietary choices. Salt is an essential nutrient the body uses to make things like stomach acid. There is a minimum required salt intake per day too.
Oil content: I acknowledged this one, but I was probably wrong - the beef patties are grilled, not fried.
Processed foods: A beef patty is a beef pattie, with 100% beef at maccas. Eggs are eggs. Bacon… has lots of nitrates…. just like lots of veggies too.
High Sat. Fat: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/it-aint-the-fat-people
Lack of nutrients: Plenty of nutrients in beef, egg. Essential amino acids and vitamins.
Lack of vegetables: What essential nutrients cannot be gained from meat? Vit C? Well, on a keto-adapted metabolism, the body has a lower requirement for Vit C.
@greater mimic: Sure, I'm happy to do that, seems sensible enough. But what would it mean if I did and I posted it here? Would it actually change your view either way?
@greater mimic: Ok, well I just did it today at a pharmacy, and it was normal. :) So in that case thanks for your concern, but I'm doing just fine.
@pinchies: Good to know, just keep an eye on it
Though I should mention that an actual blood test, not a pinprick one, would be better to do
I thought you’re a real deal with keto until I read this comment haha. Keto is high fat I get it, but no way they would “tell” you to eat bad fat and in this case is trans fat that you have been having “all the time”.
Which item has trans fat? Please provide your source for this….. still searching. Thought so. Pretty much ZERO trans fat.
And I’m not sure how that’s a high fat meal either, it’s mostly protein.
All the time = maybe once or twice a month. It’s a convenient meal when I’m on the road.
@ChickenTalon: Do you cook eggs, bacon, and sausage patties without oil? You can argue that bacon can be cooked with its own fat, but adding oil will fasten the process of cooking bacon and since veg. oil is cheap, I don't see why McDonald would not use oil in cooking bacon.
Apart from trans fat, it's obvious that all above foods (eggs, cheese, animal fat from bacon and don't get me start with what's inside sausage patties, mate) that you mention are relatively high in saturated fat, not to mention cholesterol arises from those foods before and after being cooked.
Technically you're right, your macca version is a "form" of keto, but I think it is bad keto. Once or twice a month is alright, but not "all the time".
@scooboo: You're implying cholesterol is a bad thing. It isn't, it doesn't cause heart disease, it doesn't do anything negative - cholesterol is your bodies reaction to inflammation. What causes inflammation? Simple carbs with no fibre converted to sugar in your body. So cholesterol levels are a symptom, not a cause, of potential heart disease.
Oh and to note you need fat to produce cholesterol, and you NEED cholesterol to be able to think.. or do anything including live.
OK so imagine you have the starting of heart disease, your arteries are all inflamed and swollen which will lead to issues. Your body does the right thing and produces cholesterol to combat the inflammation. But either two things happen, you keep eating the sugar laden, simple carbs, full of additives shitty food "recommended" to us as healthy and just keep your body from being able to heal, or you happen to have your cholesterol tested by the doctor who finds its high, well better cut out that fat, then your body has none of the required fat coming in to make cholesterol to combat the inflammation.
Not saying you should do keto or start eating piles of fat, but maybe just look into what cholesterol really is.
@deelaroo: I did not say cholesterol is a bad thing did I? what I meant was that saturated fat from those foods has a nexus to cholesterol level, and in fact could cause fatty deposits in your blood vessels. And while @chickentalon thinks that macca's foods = keto diet, all I want to say is that I don't think eating macca is a good keto and instead, if you want high fat, low carb diet, you can choose good fats (nuts, olive oil, avocado etc etc) over bad fats(animal fat, deep fried foods etc etc).
I have gallbladder stone myself, and it was all from bad habits in the past, eating animal fats, junk foods daily so I think I know what I'm talking about.
Read the whole thing carefully!
@scooboo: Yes I agree some people on Keto still eat shit foods. Definitely much better eating good fats and pretty dumb to trust McDonalds cooking oil.
Actually just remembering when I worked there 14 years ago I don't remember using any oil on the grill. It was like some "pull down" thing.
@scooboo: Why are animal fats bad? Sources please. and no more of your obscufication like your attempt to backup your trans fat at maccas claims. Remember association doesn’t equal causation. It’s all the other junk that people eat with their animal fats which are the problem.
@ChickenTalon: Okay, first of all. Trans fat or no trans fat at macca, it's whether you trust them or not. They claimed to use cholesterol-free oil, but I simply don't trust them and ofc they would never claim to have trans fat in their nutritional info.
Secondly, most animal fats are saturated fat Source1
Why are they bad?
"Is saturated fat bad for you? A diet rich in saturated fats can drive up total cholesterol, and tip the balance toward more harmful LDL cholesterol, which prompts blockages to form in arteries in the heart and elsewhere in the body. For that reason, most nutrition experts recommend limiting saturated fat to under 10% of calories a day." Source2
So based on normal man daily diet of 2,000 kcal, 10% = 200 kcal of saturated fat = 22.2gr of saturated fat, pretty little is it?
Your 2 eggs (fried) = 8.6gr saturated fat
Your 2 slices of bacon = 2.2gr saturated fat
Your 2 sausage patties = 11gr saturated fat Source3
Your 2 slices of cheese = 12gr saturated fat
So total = 33.8gr more or less.
Now at this point I don't care about this convo anymore. I'm ill because of excessive saturated fat that I ate in the past so it restrains me from taking such fat and not that I want to touch them again. It's your own health to take care of. If you think such fat is good for you and suitable for your diet, go for it. I would not say anything anymore.
@scooboo: Saturated fats vs Cholesterol: see https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/it-aint-the-fat-people
"elevated blood levels of [cholesterol] are associated with an increased risk of heart disease. This does not necessarily mean that high cholesterol causes heart disease, just that people who have a lot of cholesterol are more likely to get it."
Correlation is does not imply causation. Epidemiology studies are broadly, poor quality science to base public policies on when considered alone.
Im on the keto diet pretty much no carbs, but im not into eating all that extra fat etc.
The extra fat is more about feeling full. Long as you're keeping your protein intake at the right level and not too high you'll just burn your body fat as intended. Yes some people take the fat eating part to extremes, like, its still calores lol you can't eat infinite fat just because on keto.
I don’t go for the high fat stuff either.
I did initially on keto, tea with cream and coconut oil etc. But after a while I wasn’t really hungry.
Thats a good choice. You start with external fat to become fat adapted and later on you run with your own body fat. Basically transiting from one saturated fat source to another :)
Also just make sure you are tracking your ketones because if your fats are not high enough, you might just be low carb / atkins and you may not be in ketosis. Atkins is still good compared to most other lifestyles and diets, however there are specific advantages that come with your body being into ketosis which you don't want to be missing out on.
Utter rubbish. There is no need to track your ketones unless you’re messing around with targeted (TKD) or cyclical (CKD) keto diet. I.e. you have athletic reasons to be eating high carb at certain times. Just keep carbs under 20g per day and you’ll stay in ketosis.
It all depends upon if your body is "fat adapted" or not. In the start for around 6 weeks period your body needs the healthy fats to transition to fat burning where it develops new mitochondria for running the cells on fat. Later on you can transition to not so high fat ~75g and your body uses its own stored fat reserves for energy. Low carb is the absolute necessity otherwise your body will switch to carb burning with not much external fats coming in.
You are 100% wrong ChickenTalon. Your body won't even go into ketosis if your protein is too high and your fat is not high enough. Under 20 grams carbs per day is just low carb and not keto if you are not eating enough fat. Do some research.
If you are going to go on a ketogenic diet, don't be lazy and pig out on just bacon and cheese, remember to get plenty of plant based proteins as well! Previous studies have shown that both ketogenic and regular diets both help people lose weight, provided they're kept up (more people in that study managed to keep up with the keto diet, which suggests it's an easier lifestyle change). This study published by the Lancet a few months ago suggests that very low carb high animal based protein diets are worse off in the long term, but note that plant based low carb high protein diets are much better.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext You can watch all the youtube videos and read all the forum arguments in the world, but nothing beats a properly done scientific meta-analysis.
I am on day 8! a beginner yes, this book will come in handy, thanks!
Doing ok so far, managed to stay below 20g of carb per day, but protein always go over and not enough fat…
Keto FTW. Coming up to 4 years in December.