Is Finding a Job Working as a Professional(degree holders) as Hard as They Say It Is? Especially for People who are Overseas?

Hey Guys,
Need to ask some advice for my partner whom I want to bring here to Australia. She has quite a plethora of work experience under her belt as an Auditor in Singapore, and is currently working in one of the big4 companies.

I don't think her English is an issue, but I think that her lack of a CPA certificate might be some sort of barrier for her. She is a chartered account with ACCA certification here in Singapore though, but I don't think it means much to the Australian companies here.

She does not want me to sponsor her the visa for coming over, due to concerns that she would not be able to find a job here after she moves in with me. Due to this reason alone, we've been trying to find a job here through the 'normal' avenues like applying for jobs through jobstreet and such.

Together with my help, we hit our 100th cv submitted today, and its completely heartbreaking to say that she has not got a single potential employer who showed interest over the last 2 months.

Meanwhile other people have used the not-so conventional method of using local businesses to sponsor these work visas that almost end up as PR statuses towards the end of the day. It makes me quite upset that hardworking people like her do not have an opportunity to contribute to Australia, and uneducated/connected family friends can pretty much bring over the horde.

I've heard comments from my parents and several friends that jobs for people like her are scarce and are pretty much 1 in a million opportunities. I heard that the same industry is also tough on our own local students fresh out of Uni.

I would like to know whether the above-mentioned statements are true in your industries? And if there are any tips for helping her get a work visa here.

Comments

  • hard

  • In short, its a very competitive jobs market

  • Who uses jobsteet ? Ive never even heard of it before. Use Seek.com and Linkedin to look for jobs. Having said that she must have full working rights in Australia to have any chance of getting a job. Even after that it may take some time as local job experience counts for a lot in Australia.

  • Most difficult part is the visa, as without it, company would need to sponsor her and it's much harder now since last year.

    457 visa doesn't exist anymore, it's replaced with the 482, so first you have to check if her job is listing into the short or medium term
    https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/visa-1/482-

    The easiest is probably to get the WHV and apply for the partner visa as it can take a long time to get it now (10-12 months).

  • someone I know used to work in a mid tier accounting firm in Sg and her boss helped her contact the Aus equivalent firm for her and got her an audit role in Aus. she was working while waiting for her PR application (spouse option sponsored by husband) and only got her PR maybe two or three years later.

  • Especially for People who are Overseas?

    I think that being from overseas, is not so much of an issue. It is english proficiency spoken and written.
    In getting a job in Australia, you are almost certainly be required to communicate with native english speakers on a regular basis at least, maybe even constantly.
    Therefore if communication with you or any non native English speacker takes more time, through misunderstandinga and having to repeat things etc, then that time=$ for any employer.
    I would suggest work very hard on ensuring your english is near perfect (best would to find an Aussie person to advise you on how understandable your english is). Then devise some way to get to show your great spoken english skills, perhaps call up on the phone and ask to speak with the boss/manager etc. That way they can know straight away, that your english communication skills are excellent. Perhaps even trying to speak english without your accent, would help also.
    These days of multicultural Australia, there would likely be no issue with employing someone from overseas. Provided your english speaking/listening skills are great and also providing you have permanent residency or similar (no employer wants to hire someone who will likely leave and who cannot legally stay and work in Australia in the long term) .

  • -1

    hey mate. partner is from OS. pm me if you have any q

  • I know employers who are hiring in Australia and I know friends from Singapore who are trying to find jobs here without a visa. I can tell you straight up unless she’s a genius she has zero chance. She is better off asking for a secondment from her company to Au then asking the local office to sponsor her a work visa (sponsor in name, fees paid by her). That process will take years. Most people bite the bullet and pay the 7k to move their partner over, takes about 6 months to a year.

    You need to know the number of people who want to move to Australia is mind-boggling. Even employers specifically asking for visa holders get tens of thousands of unrelated CVs from countries like the Philippines, China and Indian just to name a few

  • My ACCA qualified partner came here on a partner visa with no job secured beforehand, because we knew employers will rarely look at candidates not in the country, and found a job within a month or so. I don't think you need to worry about not being able to get a job as long as you have a visa. Good luck!

  • +1

    if she works in big 4 she needs to talk to her partner and explain she wants to relocate to Australia. EVERY big 4 firm in the country is crying out for experienced audit staff. She will get a job via that path.

    the other option is to look on the firms internal job board for offshore audit jobs in the same firm and apply via that.

    you are actually in the best position you can be given she is already "in" the big 4 world, has chalked up the years of experience and is accredited. If you get no luck with your current firm, just hit up DTT/EY/PWC/KPMG.

  • Best route, get your partner the Permanent Residency visa applied while she is in Singapore and then move in after getting the visa. It's easier to the get the PR visa in Singapore than getting it after coming over here. This is from personal experience.

  • Welcome to the shitty world of overseas employment.

    My friend's girlfriend was a fully qualified chemical engineer in Columbia. Had been working over there for about 5 years. You would think she would find a job easy - female engineer - jackpot! Nope.

    It took her 4 years to find a job (4 years working in cafes/bars submitting countless job applications) and 8 years to get permanent residency and get back up to the level of work she had been doing almost a decade earlier.

  • It's not that it is hard due to regulation its that Australia is a relatively small country compared to how many people want to work here. Due to the high demand of people wanting to move to Australia there has to be limitations. My own professional workplace has more than 50% foreign workers. So IMO there should be more limitations and rules on employers to train local staff over hiring foreign staff.

  • Hey mate. I am ex Big 4 but from Australia. She should easily be able to get a job in a Big 4 firm in Australia. They're always looking due to high turnover at the Senior to Assistant Manager level. I think she should apply for a transfer or secondment from her own firm to Australia first and if that's slow, just apply for a rival firm. There's also a lot of recruiters on LinkedIn who would love to put someone with Big 4 experience forward. Global audit methodology within the the firms are the same, it's only local reporting she'd need to learn. After a bit of experience locally she can then bail to a commercial role.

    Apologies for poor grammar, on phone and lazy.

  • There is massive turnover of auditors in accounting firms, I doubt finding work would be hard once here, many firms take on grads who are studying for post grad qualifications, has she considered CA vs CPA? Also I wouldn't hang my hat on a Big4 role, longer hours, more expected and unless she wants to climb the ladder why bother with the pain, smaller firms seem to try harder to look after and retain staff by offering flexible arrangements.

  • Hey OP,

    been there, done that. I was in your partner's shoes a while ago.

    When I was still overseas I didn't even hear back from any job I applied for. Once I came to Australia and had a visa / the right to work I found a job within a month of my arrival.

    Good luck!

    As for her accounting qualifications: I'd assume that there is a way to transfer overseas qualifications from a recognised institution.

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