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TP-Link EAP225 V3 Wireless Access Point US $71 (~AU $94) Delivered @ Amazon US

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BlueSkyAPI on 01/05/2018 - 08:56 amazon.com (162 clicks)
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This looks like a legitimate contender to Unifi AC-PRO at half the price. This WAP is very new, released December 2017. Wave-2 AC chip with MU-MIMO support. Please note this is "EAP225 V3" which is not available in Australia as yet. Don't confuse it with "EAP225" in Australia as they are several years apart in terms of tech.

EAP225 V3 is a AC1300 product compared to Unifi AC-PRO which is a AC1750 class. However it's important to note that very few clients can actually make use of 3x3 in 5GHz range and therefore this difference is not relevant in the practical sense. See discussions posted by the author of a recent SmallNetBuilder 2x2 WAP review at (https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/881bfc/2x2_wifi_a…)

EAP225 V3 2.4GHz antenna is listed at 4dBi, 5GHz at 5dBi. Compared with Ubiquiti AC PRO where both bands are 3dBi.

Key features:

  • PoE injector is included but it will be US plug
  • SSID to VLAN mapping
  • Band Steering
  • MU-MIMO
  • Airtime Fairness
  • Beamforming
  • Rate Limit
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  • matt777 on 01/05/2018 - 09:04

    Great deal - ordered 4x thanks

  • kipps on 01/05/2018 - 09:06
    +3

    Good price but Ubiquiti Unifi isn’t only about the features but the ongoing support/upgrades and enterprise rock solid stability. Neither of which TP Link is known for. I’ll stick to Unifi thanks. Since going to Unifi my home wireless has been flawless.

    • Enjj0y on 01/05/2018 - 09:18

      Agree. No more router restart or resets.

      • Megahowler on 01/05/2018 - 09:20
        +1

        Was the best thing I've ever done for my home network..

        Just rock solid internet.. Never had to reset or restart the access points.. Going on 11 months now

      • justtoreply on 01/05/2018 - 09:41

        They do nbn routers? I thought it was just networks

        I'm the kind of person who wants one do it all item, not multiple doohickeys

        • daven1985 on 01/05/2018 - 12:10

          Depends on your NBN connection.

          If you are FTTP you can just plug in a Ubiquiti Secure Gateway, configure it and away you go. If you like me :( and have FTTN CTTP you can put a VDSL Router in Bridge model then connect to Ubiquiti Secure Gateway, which is what I do.

          Gives you great DPI on all traffic and some great features.

          https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-routing/usg/

        • richy_o on 01/05/2018 - 14:54

          @daven1985: Sorry I'm late to the party on this, Do you guys use the WAPs plugged into the LAN ports on your NBN modem? Can I use these to extend the internet in a big house with hard wiring?

    • Jamesx on 01/05/2018 - 09:32
      +1

      Unifi Lite is only going for ~A$120 on eBay.

  • AlexF on 01/05/2018 - 09:19

    Bands for (Consumer) WiFi routers for sale in North America are hard-locked as mandated by FCC - firmware upgrades or country setting modification won’t unlock. Bands on imports from other countries operate as per country setting.

    Are these locked for US?

    • BlueSkyAPI on 01/05/2018 - 09:47

      Are access pointed treated as routers? Can't find info on this for this specific access point. Anyone?

      I don't think you could install DD-WRT on these things. Channel 1-11 should still work normally.

      • AlexF on 01/05/2018 - 18:33

        Channel 1-11 should still work normally.

        You don’t want to use 2.4GHz band because all your neighbors are likely to do too. Bandwidth made available by a channel is shared among all WAPs using it. Additionally, 2.4GHz band’s channels are limited to 802.11n standard.

        • BlueSkyAPI on 01/05/2018 - 18:57

          Good point.

          Does the US FCC lock down affect 5GHz?

        • AlexF on 02/05/2018 - 08:47

          @smiley-k:
          There’s a link to a nice picture for 5GHz in https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/360470.
          See “No Access” rows.

        • BlueSkyAPI on 02/05/2018 - 21:00

          @AlexF: Thank you for this - had a go but think it's getting beyond my level of technical understanding. Will have a go to see if I can find some explanations in laymen's terms.

    • BlueSkyAPI on 01/05/2018 - 13:50
      +1

      One should assume these are US-locked so band 12, 13, 14 are not available until proven otherwise. However personally I don't use those bands at all and there's no particular need to use those bands. Generally the routers/APs should just auto select whichever is the cleaneset at the boot up time anyway.

  • Boertjie on 01/05/2018 - 09:40

    Stupid question here. I have Optus cable and currently run the normal optus modem with a wireless station (supplied by optus).
    I live in a double story house and the internet downstairs is shocking. I tried a $60 WIFI extension but speed drops from 80 m to around 5. The reach is also shocking.
    Will this unit address that issue and if not, what should I look at?

    Thanks in advance.

    • BlueSkyAPI on 01/05/2018 - 09:52

      Generally you need ethernet cables to guarantee success. But if you absolutely can't run cables then can try mesh wifi or access point over an ethernet over Powerline.

      • Boertjie on 01/05/2018 - 09:59

        Thanks very mush.

      • daven1985 on 01/05/2018 - 12:11

        Or, in a pinch get a set of Powerline adapters and run it through your power cables. Won't be as good as Ethernet but should give you something acceptable to use.

        Also… get Ubiquiti. So much better! And has an amazing support forum to get help with.

    • dekkar on 01/05/2018 - 10:11

      You will get mixed success depending on the variables.

      Powerline can often give you a decent solution, however you need to buy it before you know. Wifi extenders etc etc, while work, often dont work that well.

      • BlueSkyAPI on 01/05/2018 - 19:04

        Personally think wifi extender should be banned. Almost always perform below expectation and cause more frustration than they are worth for the less techy consumers

  • virtual81 on 01/05/2018 - 10:14
    +1

    Not to take anything away from this deal, but some of Ubiquity's basic units can be had for around this price.
    They'd be a hell of a lot more AP for the money, and the support and continuing improvements from the Ubiquity team are the best in industry I've experienced so far.

    • BlueSkyAPI on 01/05/2018 - 10:19

      No question Ubiquiti has a lot going for it. Just trying to suggest some potential alternatives. Also a bit messy for the Ubiquiti AC LR and AC Lite where the older stock didn't have PoE af support and the update is so minor that online retailers cannot be relied to to ensure we get the new stock. PoE af support is important to future-proof for migrating to new PoE swtiches.

      Also note the antenna for EAP225 V3 seem to be of higher gain types - not necessarily better in all occasions but might help in some cases.

    • BlueSkyAPI on 01/05/2018 - 16:59

      Looking on the specs alone I think this roughly correspond to AC LR. So yeah, definitely still a lot of merits in going with Ubiquiti

      TP-Link Ubiquiti Ubiquiti Ubiquiti Ubiquiti
      EAP225 V3 AC PRO NanoHD AC LR AC Lite
      AUD$ discounted 94 172 253 134 111
      Power (Watt) 12.6 9 10.5 6.5 6.5
      POE Type af af af/at af/passive af/passive
      5GHz 2x2 3x3 4x4 2x2 2x2
      dBi 5 3 3 3 3
      2.4GHz 3x3 3x3 2x2 3x3 2x2
      dBi 4 3 2.8 3 3
      Data Rate
      5GHz 867 1300 1733 867 867
      2.4GHz 450 450 300 450 300
      1317 1750 2033 1317 1167
      • alvian on 01/05/2018 - 17:34

        The EAP225 V3 is a Wave 2 AC device with MU-MIMO.
        Ubiquiti AC range (PRO, LR and Lite) are Wave 1 AC devices with SU-MIMO.
        Ubiquiti HD range (nanoHD, AC HD and AC SHD) are Wave 2 AC devices with MU-MIMO.

        • BlueSkyAPI on 01/05/2018 - 18:45

          Do you know what sort of usage scenarios would the MU-MIMO provide much benefit over SU-MIMO?

        • AlexF on 01/05/2018 - 18:55

          @smiley-k:
          The scenario where there are lots of 1x1:1 .11ac MU-MIMO stations served by a single (or few) 4x4:4 .11ac MU-MIMO WAP; such as, an office.

        • BlueSkyAPI on 01/05/2018 - 21:22

          @AlexF: Thank you!

          Just came across this, looks amazing for a Wave2 MU-MIMO at A$67. More of a match for Unifi AC Lite. https://temp.wisp.net.au/index.php?product_rewrite=sp-w2m-ac…

          The ac wifi market definitely has matured and on the last leg of commoditization.

        • AlexF on 01/05/2018 - 23:44

          @smiley-k:

          looks amazing

          In 2x2:2 WAP, MU-MIMO is pretty much irrelevant.

          ac wifi market definitely has matured

          All radio manufacturers have announced .11ax SoCs - we should see new products before NY.

      • BlueSkyAPI on 01/05/2018 - 18:44

        The lower power usage for Unifi series needs to be considered as well as over the longer term the running cost may be sufficient to negate some of the cost differential.

  • walaj on 01/05/2018 - 10:57

    Piggybacking on the back of this (yes - should be in forums, but seems relevant to the benefits of this post), house has Cat6e to all rooms, but lots of devices want wifi only (google home, light switches, phones, speakers etc.)

    I'm currently running the ssid on the main adsl (dont ask) modem on 2.5g and 5g, and have a dlink DAP-1650 running the same ssid on different 2.5/5g channels (connected via cat6e to the main house switch.

    my issues
    1) coverage in garden is poor. I could add a new AP near a rear window on either ground or first floor?
    2) coverage upstairs can be poor - was looking to add an AP hanging off ethernet in one of the bedrooms.
    3) moving between APs can be poor

    so suggestions?

    would this be overkill? or better as a migration path?

    • DoesntEvenMatter on 01/05/2018 - 12:09

      Ummm cat6e? Lol but you should use a wifi analyser and see what's happening in the invisible around you but 2 or free AC-AP-Lite would do you wonders with lots of control through there software but lol cat6e

      • walaj on 01/05/2018 - 13:57

        why the amusement over the Ethernet? it wasn't any more expensive than cat6, and whilst all ports are only connected to a gigE switch, it gives me options for the future.

        (I push a lot of data between a couple of storage servers and tvs, pcs, and a projector, as well as test stuff for work)

        • alvian on 01/05/2018 - 14:19
          +1

          There is no such standard called CAT6E. There are CAT5e and CAT6A standards though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable#Category_6e

        • DoesntEvenMatter on 01/05/2018 - 15:28

          Yeh there is nothing called 6e that's genuine and if you were supplied with cable with that labelling my guess is that's not solid copper but CCA (copper clad aluminium) instead which would have me worried about anything about a future using them

        • walaj on 01/05/2018 - 15:29

          Ahh - my typo - it is CAT6A - been a while since it was fitted and yes - I've mixed standards in my posting.

        • walaj on 01/05/2018 - 15:32

          @Dezeption:
          interestingly, I have a bunch of patch cables, which whilst the label says CAT6, the printing on the cable itself says 6E

  • asa79 on 01/05/2018 - 16:46

    Wouldn't say tplink compares to unifi. Consumer VS commercial grade

    • alvian on 01/05/2018 - 17:43
      +2

      Ubiquiti sells consumer grade devices too, the Amplifi range. TP-Link sells business grade devices too, of which this is one; it does not currently sell consumer grade wireless access points.

      You cannot generalise the two companies as consumer versus business. Almost every companies will sell consumer as well as business products and at different price points. At one stage, even Cisco Networking has a consumer range (through its purchase of Linksys and the rebranding of its products).

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