I noticed that the Coles catalogue states that free plastic bags will end by 1 July and that you can now buy the 80% recycled ones for 15 cents. Will you be stockpiling the free plastic bags before 1 July?
Supermarket Plastic Bags
Lcapslock on 16/03/2018 - 13:22
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It's just another greedy corporate cost cutting method under the deceptive guise of being "eco friendly". I've been saying it for years.
Yep, Im in the food packaging industry. We are loving the ban. Basically, we can now charge our customers for a thicker bag, that is not on the ban list, and our customers can charge the public to purchase the new thicker bag. A win-win for everyone, except for consumers and the environment, because you now have people buying bin liners instead of using the free shopping bags.
This is what some consumers don’t understand. There will always be a need for bin liners. Now they’ve to pay five times the cost because they can’t get more shopping bags.
@whooah1979: and the bin liners are worst for the environment due to the thickness.
Here is an article on how bin liner usage increased in the NT after their ban.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-08/fewer-plastic-shopping…
Ultimately, I will end up boycotting ColesWorth and spend more at Aldi.
Aldi is the only supermarket who can justify charging for plastic bags because they run a tight operation and need to keep their costs low. The other supermarkets can get stuffed.@smigglejiggle:
Bin bags are larger capacity and would have less mass plastic per volume rubbish, I expect
They are not stupid, I use every single plastic bag as bin liners. If this stops, I will be buying plastic bags to use as bin liners. Thus, plastic bag usage will not go down the slightest in my household.
It will only be less useful because it only has one purpose as opposed to two functions for me right now.
Exactly, hence my argument "People are stupid".
The stupid people are "Those in power who make decisions on such things as we're discussing here."
And for that matter, we as voters are also stupid (myself included) because we allow these people to represent us.
You produce too much rubbish… Or don't buy enough groceries… Something is not right.
Everyone I know would end up stockpiling grocery bags. The ones that cared (very few) would bother dropping a bunch into the recycling bins at the supermarket every 6 months or so.
Only use as many bags as you need to use buddy. Something's not right if you take more bags than you need.
But you will be paying for the liners whilst colesworth get to make a profit on them all the while looking like environmental ambassadors.
health and the environment are usually the fronts behind a commercial decision.
they don't give a rats about the environment, but they do want to cut costs from the business.
I'm shopping at Aldi from now on and refunding my 15c bags Scab style xD
I use a couple of this type of bag. I prefer them to plastic as you can fit much more in each bag and they don't break.
I suspect Coles is going to lose sales as if I forget to bring my own bags, I will buy what I can carry with both my hands, not paying for bags.
Just scan the bag as a carrot
After a while you'll get used to it, you'll buy a few reusable bags and take them in with you. I shop at Aldi regularly and sometimes I need to take items home without a bag. Mostly though a few reusable bags go in the car and I repack the trolley into them once back at the car. It's just a change of routine.
Have to take the trolley back too to get my $1/2 back too.
That's how I feel with aldi not providing shopping baskets and requiring a gold coin for the trolleys - I just buy less. Especially since the milk starts hurting your fingers with the cold after a few minutes
Free cardboard boxes all the way
They should have this as an option when the coles bag-ban comes into effect. Offer to customers, all of those boxes they throw away.
@macrocephalic: Smart move because they have to pay for those boxes to get taken away. If we take it, we pay for it to be recycled.
You can't spare some change for the trolley? Doesn't Aldi actually sell a trolley token…
When I used to shop at aldi I lived in a sharehouse and rode my bike there, and the place where I could lock up my bike had no place to put trolleys nearby to get the coin back, and I wasn't going to leave my shopping in my bike basket for it to be stolen while I walked the trolley back through the centre, and I could barely afford meat once a week so I wasn't going to be casually discarding a $1 coin just for convenience sake to leave the trolley on the footpath either — so I'd only buy the things at aldi that were cheaper and buy the rest from woollies another day which was further but had free trolleys
Of course today in Canberra every single supermarket seems to require gold coins for their trolleys so if I was still a destitute student I'd have difficulty
@Quantumcat: You are making that dilemma up, havn't heard something that stupid in awhile. Free trolleys and stuff….
@freemoneyhunter:
Looked a bit different back then but the location now:
https://ibb.co/jsAPuc
https://ibb.co/e7S4uc
There's nowhere to link up a trolley and returning it to Aldi would mean leaving my groceries unattended in my bicycle basket@Quantumcat: Ok I believe you, thanks for going to the effort of that. I hope the issues of $1 trolleys and other things like that are behind you.
Get over it. Tasmania has had no disposable plastic bags for years now, among other states. And you know what? I hardly ever see plastic bags littered around anymore.
About time NSW and VIC caught up.
I can recall the last time, if ever, I have seen a plastic shopping bag "littered around" here in Melbourne
And after they're phased out, you won't be able to recall the last time!
They're all at the tip.
It would be 15+ years since I have seen one littered in NSW.
And QLD
That's north on the mapAbout time Tasmanians stop stealing GST from NSW/VIC
Imagine if Colesworth supplied a trolley frame you collect at the car park and you insert your own foldable plastic crates into it. Push it into the supermarket, walk around to do your shopping, empty your crates onto the conveyor belt, move your trolley with empty crates to the end where the checkout chick scans and reloads them into your crates. You then push your crates to the car, lift the crates into the boot/backseat and return the trolley frame to the collection post.
Similar to a baby capsule/pram combo.
Trolleys would cost less to make.
Just put a couple of the baskets in a trolley and voila! You have what you describe.
Clothes basket is the answer. Chuck in trolley, empty onto conveyor. Load up again in trolley and then you unload whole thing into car. Makes carrying into the house easy. Just be smart and keep very heavy stuff like a box of cans seperate.
The old and disabled can't physically do that.
Aldi sells shopping cart trolley bags that you're looking for. They fit into a trolley in a concertina and you fill them up and put them into your car. https://thismumathomeblog.com/blogs/product-reviews/shopping…
People who live in states where you have to pay for plastic bags, what do you use to line your bins?
and pick up dog crap
I wouldn't use supermarket ultra thin plastic bag for dog crap it's high risk if you bought stuff in boxes, they are full of holes.
Dog shit bags are actually thinner than supermarket bags. It makes sense, you can carry about 8kg in a supermarket bag - which is complete overkill for picking up dog shit.
The great envionmental con.
BAGGING dog feaces is environmentally dumb. Teach your pets to deficate on grass/dirt and let it compost naturally.
dogs defecating in a public place is a nuisance and an offence in nsw if it isn't removed by the person in charge.
https://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/#/view/act/1998/87/part3/…@HARSHREALITY: Yes, that's fine if they do it at home, but they also like to do it when they're out for a walk, or at the dog park.
Cardboard boxes from Bunnings for poop
Well now it's pretty much paying for a product that was previously free with your purchase.
A disposable bag has 2 purposes. To carry your shopping and to be used as a waste bag.
A garbage bag has one purpose and you have to pay for it.
They're monetising something you throw straight in the bin.If they really wanted to reduce environmental impact, they'd allow people to just fill up the wheelie bins without lining your bins
Do you have to put the big bin liners? I dont think thats allowed for our 3-bin system, unless its a biodegradable one..
Good point, in my city council I found this "Use newspaper to line rubbish bins or wrap up rubbish in for transfer to the bin outside. You could also purchase compostable bags that are made from cornstarch and break down completely and a lot sooner than plastic. Another way is to use bread bags, cereal bags or other packaging that is less unavoidable and you might get through your shopping"
So I guess what they're trying to say is that it needs to be wrapped in something, just preferably not a disposable bag
Who's stopping you from just throwing rubbish straight into your wheelie bin?
What are you talking about? You dont have to line your wheelie bin. If you don't, it will need washing out. I think I will leave our bin in the street and chuck the rubbish and dog shit in from a bucket. Our driveway is 30m so not close enough for the smell to annoy us, but the neighbours might not be so happy.
if your anything like me/my family you will have a stockpile that'll last literal years, we always had a bad in the pantry stuffed full of other bags, tasmania "outlawed" plastic bags 6 years ago and im still using that stockpile to line my 2 small bins
you are genius.. i am wondering how much can i stock pile from now on.. Soon wollies will also ban and we will have to buy these anyways.. so why spend so much effort in stock piling them.. even if i do i may stock pile for 3-4 months.. to a true ozbargainer its gold..
once they run out you can buy them for 4c each in small quantities and i suspect you can import a lifetime supply cheaper than that.
As soon as they do that I'm shifting to Aldi. I'm tired of this nanny state BS.
I'm tired of this nanny state BS.
lol
At least they scan your groceries
Another reason not to shop at Coles.
Wait, we can avoid this hippie bs by switching to woolies?
I was hoping so, but Woolworths are doing the same thing. (As well as BWS and Big W)
How will you buy your fruit and veges pick them by hand strawberries and berries come in plastic containers ect
the little plastic bags in the fruit n veg section will still be there
Loophole found.
no handle holes - loophole caveat
Cool, 20 grapes, 20 bags.
Getting rid of plastic bags but then making sure most their vegetables are pre-packaged now. Horrified to see they pre packaged sweet potatoes in a tray and wrapped in plastic!
That's only for organic produce and is a measure taken by the supermarkets because people steal things. *** This is why we can't have nice things ***
Damn healthy hippy thieves.
The package is also marketing to make product look more 'premium'. Only a fool believes the PR that its about thieves.
I think it's mostly to ensure that you can't "accidentally" enter your premium potato as a regular potato at the self checkout.
And bananas
Horrified!! People are staving and dying from war and disease and you care about vegetables in plastic wrapping. Some people really need to get out more and wake up to the real world.
Looking back over your comment history, you seem to be a pretty angry bloke. R U OK, mate?
i think it's (a great business move) pretty rich of business's to take the opportunity to stop eating the cost of bags under the guise of being green but Tasmanian here , 6 years deep into the bag ban and it barely makes a difference, once or twice you will forget your bags and curse the sun but otherwise you just end up with bags stored in a few places or just but what you can carry, on rare occasions you end up with too much stuff and buy a new bag even at 15c you wont go broke.
and it did have a pretty quick impact on how much plastic bag litter you see about, i was in melbourne last month and it's noticable
Yeah I don't get why it's such a big deal. The cost of buying bin bags and a few reusable shopping bags will amount to about $5 per person a year.
It might not make much of a difference to the environment but it will make some difference.
People at my suburb are pretty good at recycling the used bags. I recycle them at the supermarket and the plastic bag recycling bin is always over filled.
Yeah I'm in TAS and very few stores supply the old plastic bags. When I bought clothes the other day from Anaconda I was issued a plastic bag for free. Some stores here like IGA supply plastic bags but there's a 10c fee. Places like Woolworths and Coles sell the thicker plastic bags, the reusable ones for 15c EA. So we're not completely rid of plastic bags but since I've been here over 2 years most places you actually have to pay for a plastic bag and you just reuse them when you go shopping.
How long is the warranty on the 15 cent bags?
For the states that already have bags banned, how do the supermarkets handle online orders? When I pick up my order from Woolies, they always have my order prebagged for collection.
They would possibly pack your items in bags and charge you for them. This is a interesting question.
My coles online orders come bagged, no charge for bags. I usually get 3-6 bags per order, also they're a bit thicker than the ones they used in qld. Great for bin liners.
Bagged with the same type / looking kind of bag in the ACT
SA, no free bags.
Order online to click & collect or get free delivery when available.
You will not be charged for the bags
So they do use the grey plastic bag for delivery?
Yes they do.
You can click and collect from Coles Express or from the supermarketStill the same $30 minimum spend?
So it isn't a ban. Confusing.
It's also a win win for the supermarkets. Will they reduce the prices of their products since we are paying for the bags in our overall shop? Don't think that they supply them for free.
So not only will the supermarkets save on bag costs, they will then sell more plastic bags for bin liners etc.
I always reuse the shopping bags as bin liners or to pick up dog crap.
It's a pity the few inconsiderate people just throw them out without at least using them again.Highly unlikely they will be reducing prices because they don’t need to buy bags anymore. What a great way to increase profit!
I already have thousands of plastic bags for all the years of collecting plastic bags
Plastic bags that don't decompose fairly quickly should be banned. We already have plant based plastic products available for commercial use.
I know "green, environment, blah blah" etc, but honest question, I've been using these to line my bins for years. Other than plastic bags, what do people use?
Most people use plastic, except now we pay for the plastic bags. Makes the environmental impact a bit more noticeable, I support it!
I'll only pay for degradable bags
@freemoneyhunter:
Paraffin is a petroleum based material. All you want is to substitute one petroleum product for another.