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[WA] 6.6kW Trina Solar Panels + 5kW Zever Solar Inverter PV Solar System $4100 after STC Rebate @ E-Solar (Perth, WA)

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[WA] 6.6kW Trina Solar Panels + 5kW Zever Solar Inverter PV Solar System $4100 after STC Rebate @ E-Solar (Perth, WA)
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AssociatedLesolar on 27/02/2018 - 13:01 esolar.com.au (251 clicks)
Last edited 01/03/2018 - 17:29 by 2 other users

The Package includes:
24 x 275W Trina Solar Panels
5KW Zever Solar - German Owned Inverter
5 year warranty on workmanship installation
Fully installed

$4,100……from $4500!!!

Other brands of panels and inverters available on request

Anybody can sell… will they keep your solar system running and your electricity bills down?

e-Solar supplies only tier 1 solar panels and inverters from reputable manufacturers with proven record.

A Solar System is like a roof on your house… Once installed you're kind of stuck with it.

It takes 8 hours to install it properly by experienced professionals and much less for a shoddy hurried job with roof leaks when the rains come.

Might not always be the cheapest initially, but decisively in the long run. According to ASIC statistics, more than 500 solar companies have closed down since 2011 leaving many clients stranded and the industry reputation in tatters.

e-Solar has been involved exclusively in Solar and Renewable Energy for over 30 years.

Visit our Facebook page(facebook.com) to see that we are up to or read what past clients say about us.

solarquotes.com.au/installer- review/esolar/ or Google Reviews

Prices based on single phase meter, single storey home in Perth Metro area. For a limited time only.

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    • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 13:07

      Why would you post such comment?

      • bemybubble on 27/02/2018 - 13:10
        +2

        Why is this a bargain in comparison?

        • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 13:18

          The same system was going for $500 more recently.

      • tavk on 27/02/2018 - 13:16

        DO you also provide Jinko panels? Do you do work in Melbourne?

        • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 13:19

          Unfortunately on WA.

  • Andoes on 27/02/2018 - 13:16
    -8

    Visit our Facebook page(facebook.com)

    Just in case you hadn't heard of fb.

    But srsly, is this restricted to a particular state or territory? What is the rrp vs your advertised 'bargain' pricing?

    • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 13:21

      Yes WA as mentioned at the bottom of the description. The normal price was $ 4300

      • Andoes on 27/02/2018 - 13:24
        +3

        But not in the description at the time. As per the posting rules.

        • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 13:27
          +3

          Thanks for pointing it out….just rectified.

    • WatchNerd on 27/02/2018 - 14:20
      +3

      You've just asked a couple of questions, so why did you neg?

  • specwarop on 27/02/2018 - 13:26

    Im no electrical engineer, but if the panels can do 6.2kW, wouldn't the inverter also need to be able to handle 6.2kW (unlike the 5kW one listed)?

    • kipps on 27/02/2018 - 13:28
      +2

      The inverter will clip the output to a max of 5kw. Overloading the inverter with panels is common.

      If you're paying peanuts for solar then the installers will not be very eager to do a good job.

      Search for "Crap Solar" on Facebook for a good idea of how bad it can get.

      In short - do your research before you pay a cent.

      • specwarop on 27/02/2018 - 13:29
        +2

        So whats the point of the 6.2kW worth of panels, may as well just get 5kW right?

        • kipps on 27/02/2018 - 13:30
          +3

          Longer hours of production - particularly where there are say two strings facing different directions.

        • cornucopia on 27/02/2018 - 14:19
          +1

          Eh?? The peak yield is always a percentage of the theoretical max photovoltaic output, typically 75-80% in peak season but depending on many factors like orientation, latitude, time of day etc etc. So the higher the theoretical max output the higher the yield. To get a peak 5 Kw yield you typically need at lease 6 Kw in theoretical max output but you still only need a 5Kw inverter.. Commonsense really .. :-( .. !! (There are restrictions in some instances on what capacity you're allowed to have feeding the grid and attracting the FIT but that's a whole other discussion - see press item following)

          https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/restrictions-on-rooftop-…)

      • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 13:36
        +5

        Having a string of more than the inverter max output ensure your inverter works at peak for more hours during the day. A 5 KW array of solar panels will only hit 5 Kw peak under best conditions only one hour during the day

    • Diji1 on 27/02/2018 - 13:29

      I imagine 6.2kW is a theoretical maximum that will never be seen.

      • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 13:44
        +1

        You will not see it produced at any moment you look at the inverter output but a you will notice that system will produce many more KWh or Units daily than with 5 KW solar panels

    • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 13:33
      -1

      The inverter can manage a lot more than 5 KW which refers only the AC side by the way. In fact it's because of Western Power rule that we can only limit the max solar panels output to 6.6 KW.

      Putting more panels than inverter rating it's quite efficient and the norm these days

      • Speedster on 27/02/2018 - 17:41
        +2

        This is incorrect. It's not a Western Power rule, it's the CEC rules for creating STCs. You can install over 133% but the additional panels have to be installed separately after the rest of the system, the string DC open voltage has to be under 600V and of course the string voltage and current has to be within inverter limits. As an installer you should know this.

  • liveish on 27/02/2018 - 14:02

    1 year warranty on workmanship installation —
    LOL - why so low ?

    • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 14:10

      it's 5 years…where did you get the 1 year from?

      • liveish on 27/02/2018 - 14:27

        https://www.esolar.com.au/terms-conditions/

        Also your website says you been around since 1988, but can only find Esolar trading since 2003?

        • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 14:32

          Just noticed as well. That had not been updated but on the quotes we send out it is stated clearly 5 years for a while. Anyway to avoid confusion I have also updated it above.

        • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 14:36

          e-Solar started in Australia in 2003 hence the name e-Solar Australia but we have been operating in Africa Middle East and Europe way before 1988.

          Started with Helios Technology of Italy which was producing solar panels already in 1981…

        • liveish on 27/02/2018 - 15:02
          +1

          @esolar:

          Cheers just a little misleading from your website

          • BACKGROUND – E-Solar has been involved exclusively in Solar and Renewable Energy for 30 years and only offer products with proven performance, manufacturer reputation and reliable service warranty claims
        • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 15:58

          @live_1991: Please point out how is a little misleading. By the way terms and conditions on our website have been updated!

  • AdrianW on 27/02/2018 - 14:09
    +3

    If you're in WA and considering Solar - you need to read this thread on Whirlpool before doing anything else: Perth solar installations

    Sounds like Talesun are cheap panels, probably not what you want unless you're only staying in the house for a few years.

  • gizmomelb on 27/02/2018 - 15:45

    was going to suggest 6.2KW of panels means the system will still be outputting 5KW to the inverter as panels degrade over the years.

    • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 15:53

      Yes…but the same applies on daily basis. Such system will hit 5 KW already at 10 AM instead of waiting for Midday. Useful operating life of the panels will outlive some of us

    • klaw81 on 27/02/2018 - 16:02

      That's also true I guess, but most panels come with a performance guarantee that their output will be at least 80% of their rating after 20+ years. So that part is negligible.

      Having extra panels has two main benefits:

      • The inverter will only "wake up" and begin sending power to the grid/house when a certain threshold of output is generated by the solar panels as the sun rises. Having additional panels will allow your system to start generating power earlier in the morning. Early morning production is usually the most efficient time of day because the panels are cool from the night, and solar panels are less efficient at higher temperatures.

      • The inverter can only output 5kW maximum to the grid, but you can reach that 5kW limit much earlier, and maintain it later, if you have additional panels. This means your inverter will be at maximum production for a longer duration, increasing overall output.

      The cost offset from claiming STCs make solar panels fairly cheap, so the small additional cost in buying and installing extra panels is quickly offset by more production and thus a faster payback period.

      TLDR: Extra panels don't add much cost and improve output.

      <Disclaimer: I am not a solar salesman, but my friends are….and they talk about this a lot. I paid extra for more panels and it's totally worth it.>

      • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 17:19

        Valid comments and reflections. Thank you for contributing

  • fertiliser on 27/02/2018 - 16:55
    +1

    A cheap price for cheap panels. This is a good deal if this configuration is what you are after, but it's probably better to invest in slightly better quality (especially the inverter)

    • Associatedesolar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 17:29

      Having pointed out more than once in this forum that we can supply more expensive panels and inverters ….I actually disagree.

      The biggest capital investment are your solar panels which to add, change or replace would be something to avoid. However inverters technology is already and will change quite rapidly sooner than we think. In 5 years time when the warranty expires (which can be extended for another 5 by the way) we shall have in the market cheaper and more efficient inverters which will comply with the regulations of the time. So I would rather go for the biggest solar system you can afford and the cheapest reasonable inverter as these will be replaced. Just think of how much we spend on smart phones and how we change them every 3-4 years …and not because they stopped working

      • fertiliser on 27/02/2018 - 17:40
        +1

        the panels themselves will become more efficient as well though. Then you'll wonder why you stuck 22x 280w panels up when you could have had 22x 400w panels taking up the same space.

        The cost difference between this inverter and a better one (Fronius etc) will be marginal, however the difference between these panels and non-chinese generics is considerable. This is why I mentioned focusing on the inverter and not the panels.

        In any case I appreciate you're on here discussing this instead of just dropping a "bargain" and disappearing into the void like many other businesses. It's qualities like this that would influence my choice of installers and you seem to back up your product with actual customer service which is good.

  • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 27/02/2018 - 18:27

    Thank you for your comments. Much appreciated. We have been around a while and don't intend to change line of business now. Going back to panels efficiency besides the very expensive ones like Sunpower and LG, 5 years ago we were selling 250 Watts and now we still have 270-290 Watts in the market reflecting the fact that panels technology is moving forward (still the same cells technology developed by Bell Labs in 1951) but no proven breakthrough technology coming to the market any time soon. Lastly we have now 6 KWs systems available at a reasonable price which can be easily fit on most houses in Perth….If they suffice the power needs of the household why change them?

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