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Nice new listing from Dell just in time for the 20% off.
Note they got the title wrong, it says i8.
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Dell XPS 13 QHD Touch 8th Gen Intel Core i7-8550U 16GB RAM 512GB SSD 13.3” $1999.20 Delivered @ Dell eBay
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Specs wise it's still the same. Great price for the form factor, I doubt you'd be able to find a similar specd ultrabook for a close price
Would note that the Thunderbolt 3 port on this only has x2 PCIe, while the newer model has the full x4 PCIe. May be relevant for those looking to go eGPU.
This model arguably has better ports. Same 8th gen CPU too
Kind of agree. Shame they couldn't have kept the full-sized SD slot on the newer one.
thanks plant - how do I know if its a 2018 model?
When is it the Rose Gold 8th gen model releasing?
i8-8550U
Is that a real CPU or did they mean i7?
I think typo.
Calling it now. Next week someone's gonna post on the forum complaining that they didn't get their i8 model and would like to seek compensation for damages/loss.
SO is it the processor and the touch screen that makes this so expensive? Graphics chip Intel, so onboard graphics. I genuinely don't understand why this would normally sell for $2.5k
The borderless screen is one of a kind.
does move the webcam below the screen, so yes the screen is 'one of a kind' but also means everyone sees up your nose in a video call
Make sure you clean out those boogers before a web conference.
Does anyone make video calls from notebooks anymore?
@steff: I do work for one, we video conference. Don't use it at home which I assumed most buyers here are looking at one of these for.
No need to get name calling.
@serpserpserp: didn't mean to offend you or single anyone out, but why would you buy a $2000 ultra portable to use at home? This is clearly a business machine. Also this makes the comment you made previously moot
@steff:
The last ultraportable I bought (and earlier version of the advertised Dell in this thread in fact) I used for home and uni. It perfectly fitted my needs as I wanted something I can lug around at home really easily between in and outside and also to class via work in need (all my work notebook way too bulky).@serpserpserp: i hear what you're saying. In your case, it may not be a deal breaker but coming back to my original comment, the position of the webcam kind of does in a purely business situation
Hardly one of a kind, there are other laptops with the same sort of screen design
Will say I've had the 9370 for a week now, about to be refunded due to a hardware fault, but I hate the borderless screen. It's a touchscreen, so all too often you go to adjust the screen a little and your finger catches the touch screen, boom you just did something you didn't want.
I've now added not a borderless screen to my list of requirements for my new new laptop.
That's a good insight. I didn't thought about that before.
what hardware issues have you experienced?
Same question as previous reply - what hardware fault did you face with your unit?
Few hardware issues, few general usage issues that mean I could never live with it.
The fans go nuts anytime it's plugged into power. Thought it was all the setup work I was doing but once I realised fans would run with CPU < 10% it was game over.
It also had the dreaded coil whine, I just didn't know until I the fans eventually shut up when it wasn't charging.
Trackpad was an issue too, constantly detecting my palm. Sure I could have worked something out here eventually but as the other issues required a replacement, I didn't bother working through them.
There were other issues that were more down to personal preference, but these were the big ones.
After a less than stellar experience with Dell Support I decided to give a Lenovo Yoga 920 a try. Had it a few hours and loving everything about it so far, not one thing I don't like.
Funny I was in JB HI-FI doing the return, about to start negotiating on the Yoga 920, when they started putting out signs for a 15% off sale that starts tomorrow (21/2 - 25/2). So I said rather than haggle can I just have that discount which they agreed on :)
I did see this but didn't fancy disabling/enabling drivers every time I wanted to use the touchscreen, the reality would be that I would never use it then. That being said I may never use it anyway, just happened the laptop I wanted had a touchscreen!
Wait, this doesn't even have the 1050?
13" model doesn't nope.
Technically it is a 'bargain' as it's cheaper than anywhere else. But it doesn't mean it's good value for money.
This laptop is more for people who value form over function.
has more ports than the macbook pro then?
Was going to make a similar call!
It's expensive because it's very light and powerful . Add 500g take off $500 more or less .
It's also has great build quality. Carbon fibre is rare.
So if I add 2kg is it free? :P
But seriously, I don't want light, more expensive and less useful.
'useful' varies based on use case. No need for extra power if you're only doing light browsing and word processing. On the other hand, it probably is useful to have a bag half a kilogram lighter if you need to walk around with it for over an hour every day.
Well not really free, but cheaper yes.
This can be in your list: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-Inspiron-15-3000-8th-Gen-i7…
it's big and badass and cheap.
Wow! People on this board now have the need to downvote a joke complete with emoticon.
It's more to do with what you're stating what you don't want, which doesn't reflect the functionality and price that reflects this.
I bought an XPS13 in May to travel with around the world for 6 months and I can tell you it was an absolute godsend comparing to lugging arounf a 15 inch IBM ThinkPad on my last 6 month trip two years ago.
Good for you. People should buy what they want. I don't want to decide on behalf of anyone else. I still don't see any reasonable reason you've given to downvote a joke though. And I can still comment on what I want.
Integrated graphics is a bit meh at that price point.
Not for gaming, more for work and productivity.
Not everyone a gamer, you know :)graphics cards are used for more than just gaming. you know that right?
No I don't. For mining?
Even browsers enjoy a bit from hardware acceleration, and then obviously any graphical design app. But at this price point, you'd hope that it would be a better all rounder with a 1050TI. I'd say its a decent enough developer machine though, but if you want to start playing around with android dev (for example), the emulator enjoys GPU hardware acceleration, not to mention if you want to expand into Unity.
For a simple productivity machine, I'd probably go lighter specs/price in an ultrabook.
I see, thanks mate. I didn't know that before.
We learn something new in every bargain :)
"Even browsers enjoy a bit from hardware acceleration" . True but your battery life will be severely reduced . Normally something like a 1050Ti GPU will be switched off when merely browsing . The 1050Ti will only be utilised when you start up a game or something else that needs it .
@troyww: Thats a good point when talking about these ultrabook competitors, however considering all the other specs are so high and its screen is so small, I imagine many would use this as a portable work station and dock it often (its terrible doing long periods of work on such a small screeen/keyboard). In which case, you'd be running off power and not have to worry about battery life. When off power, I often configure my computer to utilise dGPU as often as possible and in my current machine have turned off the iGPU through the bios completely but thats because the battery is terrible in it anyway.
Another point I guess on this front would be the ability to run multiple monitors (I run 3 from my laptop at work). I believe you can run 2 using the Thunderbolt connection on this but then you start taxing the iGPU even harder, leaving less for work. Again, these aren't deal breakers but at this price, I'd want a true mobile workstation. I guess the money here is going to the 4k touch screen which I don't think is particularly useful at this form factor. I do like the glossiness though.
Ultrabooks are not really for use as a workstation . I agree the I7 is over the top for most use case scenarios for an ultrabook .
I recently bought my son a 2in1 Lenovo 720 for school which is a similar machine apart from being 2in1 . I opted for the I5 as the extra 2Hundred dollars seemed a complete waste especially considering the new 8th gen CPU's are quad cores now anyway .
The low weight makes it easily luggable , My son rides 8.5km to school . The small screen gives makes it smaller obviously and gives better battery life . On a side note upgrading from a 1080P screen to QHD drastically reduces battery life and seems IMHO to be of minimal benefit on a 13" screen .
Ultrabooks are really well suited to students where portability and battery life are all important . Ironically it's those that can least afford them that they will benefit the most .Ironically it's those that can least afford them that they will benefit the most.
not all students are unemployed undergrad with no sugar daddy :)
Also lots of executives enjoy using ultrabooks for long flights.
@troyww: Ah sorry, I was thinking of uni students.
Why not chromebooks?The Asus UX330 are excelent ultrabook for the money
My son worked hard and got himself into Perth Mod public GATE school so i didn't mind splashing out . Apart from that the school recommend a 2in1 with a touch screen and or pen , The Asus looks to be pretty much the same price/spec . The Lenovo was on their recommended list and I've owned a few thinkpads and been very happy with them .
I agree a chromebook is probably perfectly adequate for a year 7 . Plenty of other schools specify chrome books . It will undoubtedly get broken , lost , stolen ….
Which 13 inch laptop has a decent GPU?!
Surface Book 2, 13.5in has GTX 1050
Rather have the zenbook UX430UN for $400 less.
That is not QHD touch though. That may not matter, but XPS 13 is Editor's Choice for many magazine for their excelent durability.
The Asus does have MX150 graphic though.The listed UX430UN is price jacked, usually $1800.
Given the difference and Dell's support, the $400 difference is worth it imo.
Well personally i find touch pretty useless on a traditional laptop… It can be useful on a 2-in-1 which this isn't.
QHD on a 13" is overkill imo, nobody can see the negligible diff unless you maybe compare them side by side.
This also comes from Malaysia and not covered by Dell Australia.
Personally i rather take the MX150 and keeping $400 in my pocket….. ymmv.
My understanding is this ships from Malaysia but the purchase is with Dell Australia (via their eBay store), so covered by Australian warranty. Is this right?
100% covered by Dell Australia, because it is Dell Australia.
Dell Australia usually assembles/ships from Malaysia. As long as you buy from the official Dell Australia you should be covered by the Waranty + ACL/ACCC consumer guarantees.
I agree with all your points, except the warranty part. This is Dell Australia. Their warehouse is in Malaysia.
Only advantage I can think of is that if there's a dead pixel you'll need a magnifying glass to see it, so it won't bother you.
Found this new laptop on Amazon, 512gb PCIe SSD for 1.7k AUD. I think the ux430un is still SATA SSD. Any thoughts?
https://www.amazon.com/UX461UN-DS74T-Ultra-Slim-wideview-key…
ux430un is sata m.2 ssd. But the motherboard supports NVME. You can spend extra and replace the SSD easily.
They still have 45 minutes to price jack…
Dell rarely price jack I think.
But this price is more than in their website by $250.And the shitty eBay CashRewards as opposed to the half decent Dell one.
If you purchase this have fun playing the coil whine lottery.
Yup this…. just got a xps 13 last week and coil whine been really bad. Dell support seem to think its fan noise but they're sending a technician over to check it out.
I think the model really matters here, as I would imagine the coil whine issue would have been fixed by now.
I've got the XPS 13 9360 with FHD screen and 8th gen i5-8250u. Also with 256gb pcie ssd abd 8gb of ram. I did a little digging apparently they managed to reduce the coil whine with a BIOS update but doesn't completely fix it.
They also said and I quote "remaining ‘coil noise’ heard after implementation of 2.4.2 (BIOS) will be deemed as working within specification". IMO any coil whine on a laptop within this price range should be unacceptable. So yeah they're not going to do anything about it and this was back when they were still on 7th gen Intel CPUs (early 2017 I believe) and the fact that I have it on mine which is the late 2017 with 8th gen CPU which look similar to this deal as they still have legacy USB port and the 2018 model only have USB type C.
beware the coil whine…
I just returned mine for other reasons but had coil whine too. This was the 9370 so anyone that thinks it's been resolved in the latest model, not the case. Some people are more sensitive to others I guess, drives me nuts.
The people complaining about the specs are missing the whole point of an ultrabook. I see this in every thread.
Want top specs for a cheap price? This is not the laptop for you
Want a light and ultra portable laptop that has more than sufficient power to do most tasks and doesn't feel like a chore to lug around all day? Then this is for you
The high price comes from the design and portability, not the specs
Not to mention battery life - the XPS 13 can easily go 12+ hours on a single charge which is crucial for those who are not at their desks for most of the day.
QHD model will not last 12+ hours, from personal experience.
The specs are pretty good. It's just that those same people just see the integrated graphics and go all whiny without seeing that discreet graphics will add more bulk and consume more power.
I still remember XPS line being the gaming laptop.
Ah yes the pre-alienware days…
The XPS desktops are still pretty gaming focused at least (with 1060 and 1070s) without looking all gaudy like the alienware ones.
Hmm this or ux430un…
Exactly the same dilemma…
A friend has a ZenBook, i dont know if it is because she has an i7 version but the fan turns on to full speed a lot. Even when it is idle which isnt very good as it is noisy…
Might be because of the thinness. The fan isn't driving a lot of air flow through so needs to spin more
I'm not sure, i would expect there are heat pipes and other things to keep the heat down as much as possible before a fan is needed.
The XPS may be similar but i haven't ever used one
@spaceflight: If you google the UX430UN, the site forum.notebookreviews has plenty of discussions around GPU throttling, heat issues, and PWM flickering.
Basically the MX150 never reach its potential.@boohooimissout: I will be looking for a new laptop to play a new game releasing at the end of the year. I wonder how the HP Envy 13 with MX150 will perform.
@AlgoTrading: Depends on what game.
I think no ultrabook with dedicated graphic cards truly perform well in gaming due to heat issues that it has.
You should consider getting gaming laptop for gaming, like asus ROG or inspiron gaming.@boohooimissout: It's the Total War: Three Kingdom game releasing in US fall, which I can't imagine to be too taxing. Otherwise, I'm doing a part time PhD in machine learning so some dedicated GPUs could be handy (for the initial development anyway).
If only this had the MX150, would make it a no brainer
Those looking to understand the key differences between this late 2017 model (9360) posted here and the newly released 2018 model (9370) I understand them to be as follows:
- 9370 has NO USB-A ports. 9360 has 2.
- 9370 has 3 USB-C ports, supporting Thunderbolt 3 at the full x4 PCIe spec. 9360 has a single USB-C port, supporting Thunderbolt 3 at the half x2 PCIe spec. Relevant for those looking to hook up an external GPU.
- 9370 is about 24% smaller footprint overall, and lighter. Can also choose the rose gold exterior with the "glass fibre" interior. Silver exterior with black carbon fibre style interior (same as 9360) is however still available.
- 9370 has webcam on bottom centre, 9360 on the bottom left
- 9370 has smaller 52 Whr battery, 9360 has 60 Whr. However, from reviews it appears that both have very similar battery life.
- Both 9370 and 9360 share the same hardware (8th gen intel CPUs, SSD and RAM configs are same across each tier).
Both 9370 and 9360 share the same hardware (8th gen intel CPUs, SSD and RAM configs are same across each tier).
The motherboard on the 9370 has been redesigned and there are many other new components compared to the 9360.
This has been to address the coil whine issue on the 9360
Good pickup - thanks for that. I think the other one would be 9370 has dual fans while the 9360 has single fab cooling.
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It's the old model from 2017 camera to the left…..