Why Are There Entry Level Positions That Require 1+ Years of Experience?

I'm currently studying in my final year of business school. I figured that I could get a full time or a part time job in the field I'm studying in as I currently work in retail and I utterly despise it. It's eating away at whats left of my soul and I would prefer to leave it ASAP. I figured I could study during the night while I work during the day. it's the final year I can push through it I don't mind, and I'd have plenty of experience by the time I graduate, not having to waste time looking for a job when I finish is also a plus.

What I'm finding for undergrad and graduate positions is job descriptions that will often have the words "entry level" and "X" amount of years of experience that are required to even have your application be considered for the position. I've had 6 months of workplace experience, I did that about a year ago, thought it would be useful to add in my resume, and it's there, but It's just not enough. why are the requirements set so high for entry level positions? Why do they need X amounts of years of being in a specific field when it's very well advertised to be an entry level position for undergrads or new graduates? In case someone recommends that I fabricate some parts of the resume, which I've been told to do before, I don't feel comfortable with lying about anything as I might find myself being put in a position where it's assumed that I have knowledge in something when I don't, and i'm left alone with the expectation of completing it with no idea how.

Could someone who has been in this position or who has dealt with anything like this, whether you're a recruiter or a job seeker who's managed to find work despite sifting through this stuff shed some light on it?

Thanks everyone

Comments

  • +2

    Pretty simple. The companies that advertise 'X yrs experience required' even for a basic job title means that they have no resources available to train completely fresh recruits. Training people costs money and time so the vast majority of employers seeking to fill entry level positions want somebody who already has a bit of industry experience so they don't have to run through a lengthy induction process.

    TLDR: they're just fishing and hoping they can get somone that needs less training.

    The definition of entry level has changed significantly to be a Uni degree + work experience. Because currently people with that skill set will work at that level. For things that require zero experience you'd usually be looking at something like internship (whether paid or unpaid), volunteering or apprenticeship.

    If you've worked retail, technically, you already have work experience under your belt and you need to make use of the skills that you've picked up in retail and turn it into a selling point for yourself. If I were you, I wouldn't give two hoots about the x Yr requirement and hit the Apply button anyway.

    If you have been treating your retail job as merely a job and not the 'start of your career', then you're probably doing it wrong.

    • I always saw the retail job as something temporary to make money while I studied until I start my career. Probably because it was such a miserable job, I didn't enjoy it at all. I suppose you're right though, I should consider it as more than a job. I'll definitely look more into what I actually did at my retail job, time management, problem solving, handling transactions, all the teamwork, commercial/product awareness… Hey it's actually coming to me I can use all this stuff. Thanks :)

    • Scrimshaw Pretty simple …….. they joined OzB 10 hours ago,

      • +11

        10 hours ago? We are looking for posters with at least 1 years experience…

      • I'm a long time lurker, Been using OzB for about two years, for the deals and to read the forums. I promise I'll post a deal soon as I come across one.

  • +1

    I've been in a few areas where a manager was searching trying to get applicants to fulfill a role, biggest thing I learned was that although they write up a critical list of minimum requirements for a job, most of the time they aren't expecting anything close. One place I was in, the job add sounded so intense, but they would literally have taken any applicant that wasn't out of mind. So first thing to learn as a job seeker is to take those adds slightly lightly, if they say 1 year experience, they'll probably be happy with none if it comes down to it. Just remember that they're looking for the best they can get, so they will exaggerate the role a little also.

    One thing that took me forever to learn is not to undersell yourself, after uni I was looking for the lowliest starting position I could get, and I got rejected from every single one, I started applying for more full on roles and starting getting interviews. Turns out the lower the position the more worried they are that your resume is better then they expected so something must be wrong (I asked them). So for your example 6 months coming out of uni, I'd say is really great, and would still be applying for those 1 year roles.

    Lastly I think a lot comes down to balance, if there is quite a few people applying in your area, it's much easier for them to pick and choose and asking for more experience for less pay.

    I also think in some areas some people move around and entry level is perfect for that, for example say I worked in Sales, I might go for a job in Business or Finance as an entry level pathway, but have experience in some finance since it was part of my sales work.

    tldr: Apply anyway.

    • I understand that they need to exaggerate the role, but it sometimes gets to a point where it's just too intimidating to apply, so I just close the tab. I think I have a problem with underselling myself, but where do I even begin when I barely have anything to work with? Regarding retail, I didn't work in sales, I was a team member in a supermarket. Stacking stuff, dealing with customers so not much finance experience there that I could use like you did. I did manage for a while, had a few 4 AM starts to manage my department and got offered a management position, but refused it as that's the last thing I wanted in retail. I'll take your advice and keep applying anyway, but I hope i'm not way in over my head regarding the jobs i'm applying to. I'll just ignore the typical 1 year experience required for entry level positions from now on.

  • +2

    Spacemannn, you need to re-evaluate your resume/skill set in light of the enterprise skills employers are telling us they are looking for: digital literacy, communication skills, presentation skills, financial literacy, critical thinking, teamwork, problem solving.

    Stop thinking about the job title or things you have done/studied. Start thinking about the way in which the things you have done in all areas of your life can illustrate or be brought to the role in question. Yes, there are specific job roles and skills/knowledge that you will need, but by reflecting to yourself about your ability to be enterprising (be self sufficient, add value etc) in the workplace, you might gain a greater understanding of where you are at an then be able to approach employers with more success.

    And yes, it is a buyer's market so there is a lot of competition and this might not pay off immediately. But what you are doing now is not working for you, so it is worth looking at it from another perspective. Good luck.

    • Thank you, that's insightful. I'll definitely look at it from another perspective.

  • Get experience "embellishing/upselling" yourself on your resume and in interviews…it's unfortunately the law of the land and you will likely be one step behind if you don't as 99% of others do it.

    Obviously don't say completely outrageous things like you can speak another language when you can't.

    There was a user recently who offered to review resumes for people and improve them. Recruiters should be able to to this also.

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/348927

    • I'll definitely contact a recruiter and ask them for feedback if I get an interview. looking at the requirements, applying for them anyway and not hearing back eventually becomes demoralising. Gotta stick to it though.

  • +1

    I started working at the end of my second year at uni and finishing the rest of my degree part time. I got an internship quite easily, it was bare minimum wage but I was only going to stay there for a year. Since then I've had no problem getting jobs. I'd recommend the same route if possible.

    You've got to remember that you'll be up against people like myself for entry level positions (well at least for my second job you would have been).

    Basically to get an entry level job it helps to have completed an internship or similar.

    You're probably more likely to get find a job on minimum wage as a student than as a graduate trying to get a job.

    • I thought I would be done with internships if I had the work experience, but I'll start looking for them. Got nothing to lose anyway, just exposure to more work and more networking opportunities.

  • +2

    There's no harm in applying for jobs you don't think you'll get, just a little extra time to tweak the cover letter and resume for each one. They might even put you in a merit pool and call you up about future positions, if you don't get the job you applied for.

  • what field?

    if you are looking for a role in corporate perhaps, retail / cold calling sales - 1.5 to 2 years -> sales support ish role (to prove that you work well in 'corporate' roles) 1 year or more -> junior acct mgr 2-4 years -> account exec or senior AM or BDM.

    for finance or marketing, go for assistant role, use whatever relatable skillset in current workplace to fluff it up.

  • Places that say things are "required" when they actually mean "preferred" are normally run by idiots anyway.

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