Buying House to Live in - Melbourne Western Suburb Vs South Eastern Suburb - Which One Is Recommended?

babiguling on 01/02/2018 - 23:24
Last edited 02/02/2018 - 09:30

Hi

We are looking to purchase an independent house
Wondering whether Western Suburb (Truganina, Tarneit, Wyndham Vale, Manor Lakes, Hoppers Crossing, Werribee) is a better option than South Eastern Suburb (Hallam, Hampton Park, Narre Warren)

Also considering Northern Suburb, but now seem too overpriced (i.e Mernda, Kalkallo).

Currently those above mentioned suburbs are the ones we can still afford to buy.

Can Anyone point out the right direction for me please? in terms of

Safety (lesser crime, burglary, gang/bikies)
Growth prediction in future
Development (new highway, expansion etc)

I am relying heavily on public transport/ commute to work.

Max Budget is 500K, desired minimum land size 400 sqm

Thank you in advance

Home & Garden

Comments

      • idonotknowwhy on 05/02/2018 - 18:41
        +2

        Why doesn't the government build a world-class residential internet network using fibre optics, allowing white collar works to telecommute and reduce peak hour traffic?
        oh wait…

  • jzx100 on 04/02/2018 - 11:02
    +2

    The way things are going, we'll soon be moving overseas to buy a house.

    • BartholemewH on 04/02/2018 - 11:41
      +4

      I've always said that once all the Kiwis move to the Gold Coast I'm going to buy New Zealand. We can go halves if you want the North island.

      • jzx100 on 04/02/2018 - 15:46
        +2

        Done!

  • [Deactivated] on 04/02/2018 - 12:19
    -1

    Gentrify? How on earth will that ever happen with streets overtaken by Black Afrucan Gangs, tattooed gangster bikies and a politically correct police force weaker than the keystone cops? Move to the bush or interstate.

  • LUTSlit on 04/02/2018 - 15:38

    Eeek

  • nurbsenvi on 04/02/2018 - 17:12
    +7

    Try to get a smaller land in Tarneit West near the proposed new station.
    You should see a good capital gain.

    I've lived in bunch of different suburbs across the melbourne, east to west:
    CBD, Oakleigh, Clayton, Glen Waverly, Rowville, Tarneit, Williams Landing, Truganina, Point Cook, Sanctuary Lakes and Hoppers Crossing

    Can confirm West-East divide is just a fantasy made up by wanna be elitists.

    For example I'd say life style in Sanctuary Lakes is right up there among melbourne's best.

    Hoppers Crossing is easily comparable to Oakleigh-Clayton in term's of convenience but is half the price.

    • DiscoJango on 04/02/2018 - 18:18
      +2

      do you move house every single year

      • nurbsenvi on 04/02/2018 - 18:22

        Unfortunately, I had to move a lot with career changes, education and growing family needs.

        Long story :(

    • serpserpserp on 05/02/2018 - 21:43
      +1

      I find that people promoting the mid to outer tier suburbs down SE Melbourne are the ones trying to be elitist. It is all they have while they commute 90 minutes each way to work. Sure there are a few ugly places out west and north, but if you actually put the time in, you'll find really nice places, and under appreciated places.

      • machej on 05/02/2018 - 21:47
        +1

        Certainly, there aren't many suburbs with the greenery and tranquility of some of the houses next to the river with ease of access to transport and shops. Not to mention the train crossing removal and other perks.

        • serpserpserp on 05/02/2018 - 22:00
          +1

          What river? Inner eastern suburbs are lovely. The majority of the SE suburbs are not the inner east though (even if they want to be associated with it).

          Ease of access to transport and shops you'll find to be surprisingly good out west.

          The only thing you don't get mid to outer west is the early era architecture, but you don't get that out of the inner eastern suburbs either.

        • machej on 05/02/2018 - 22:01

          @serpserpserp: Werribee River. Check out the houses in Richmond Crescent in Werribee. Really nice. Suburban living with greenery.

        • serpserpserp on 05/02/2018 - 22:03
          +1

          @machej:

          Werribee is pretty nice.

  • worker on 04/02/2018 - 19:44

    Forget the West, come to drouin/Warragul it’s beautiful

    • burningrage on 04/02/2018 - 21:25

      YAY! This is so true…

      or consider Warrnambool. Beautiful city. Used to live there.

      • serpserpserp on 05/02/2018 - 21:44
        +1

        Yeah the 'bool is a short commute to Southern Cross for OP…

    • myfuturej on 07/02/2018 - 02:17

      Yup, this is where we bought our house last year, 450sqm, 5br home under 400k. Plus great views and 2 minutes away from station serviced by Vline. Work locally as well so just a few minutes of commute daily. Only downside is very few restaurants and no Asian shops.

  • d-hunterz on 04/02/2018 - 22:18

    OP you might worth considering RockBank, Aintree, Thornhill park. New Train station coming and hopefully electrification too by 2019.

    • babiguling on 05/02/2018 - 09:41

      Thanks a lot @Withdr4wn for your time spent writing this, =)) and for sharing your personal experience.
      I'll put it into consideration & check out Melton, also Rockbank & surrounding.

      Thanks everyone for all the input/advice and kind thoughts.
      Cheers..

    • serpserpserp on 05/02/2018 - 21:56

      Nice to hear good reports on Melton, seem everyone is happy to live anywhere but there. What is the greenery out there like?

      Tarneit is a bit of a wasteland, but I still think it is a good buy given the train station (Tarneit West) is opening soon. I think in 10 years it'll be a nice family area and still only 25km from the city. Better yet, I think Hoppers Crossing is good value and already established, just a few areas to avoid but generally ok!

        • serpserpserp on 06/02/2018 - 18:48

          Great info, thanks.

          Was going to ask your thoughts on Plumpton. Why the massive price increase for houses there compared to Melton when they are right next to each other?

        • d-hunterz on 07/02/2018 - 15:04

          @serpserpserp: that is just hype in my option and the benefit of being next to Caroline Springs( which is no doubt a master piece). However there is no train station closer to Plumpton (not even any plans on it). Thornhill Park or Atherstone are much better options, that how I see it anyway.

        • serpserpserp on 07/02/2018 - 21:04

          @d-hunterz:

          Plumpton is a pretty area with big lots, I guess that is why it is expensive. Caroline Springs is beautiful now. 20 years ago people bagged it and now it has to be one of the better suburbs in Melbourne for a family.

  • yoonibear on 05/02/2018 - 13:12
    +1

    You won't get much from 500k in the SE - unless you're looking out Pakenham way.
    Perhaps Rockbank would be good alternative? It's fairly "close" to the city and traffic isn't that bad (both car and train).

    I moved from SE to NW and it's a bit better. The daily commute has gone from 2 hours on the Monash to about 20 minutes on the Tulla.

    • babiguling on 05/02/2018 - 13:28

      Rockbank, mainly it's House & Land Package? am I correct? I don't find any result for established house on RealEstate.com.au website and the H&L also already overpriced like Mernda & Kalkallo, most of the land size are under 400 sqm for the H&L in Rockbank

      • lunartemis on 06/02/2018 - 17:53

        I think the population of Rockbank was 1500 in 2015 but there are so many new estates popping up. We bought a block of land and noticed other buyers are first home owners,young families,retirees. The estate has very strict guidelines and rules that should sway low lives.
        The land prices has also gone up by around 15-20% since we bought it back in 2016

        • RiseAndRuin on 06/02/2018 - 23:31

          that sounds interesting, what kind of guidelines and rules? hard to imagine you could keep low lives away just with those (?)
          in any case, I'd still be concerned about the proximity to areas like caroline springs and tarneit tbh

    • babiguling on 05/02/2018 - 13:31

      way too far, but thanks for looking up =)

  • jnathanc on 05/02/2018 - 14:27

    In Hallam , Hampton Park, Narre Warren you're looking at the lowest end at 450k-500k and other houses hovering between 500-560k on average with 3 bedrooms all within those suburbs at around 600-700 sqm.

  • kindra on 05/02/2018 - 15:17
    +1

    Hi mate,

    I have lived in Wyndham Vale and Hampton Park and both has its pro’s and con’s.

    Freeway access: Hampton Park wins as it takes me about 5-10 mins to get to the freeway, manor lakes takes about 20 mins to get to the freeway. I didn’t find traffic that bad travelling to the CBD during peak hour. I would rather travel from Wyndham Vale to the CBD rather than Hampton Park, but maybe things will change with the new Monash upgrade. I noticed there’s only 1 road to get to the freeway, it lacks infrastructure.

    Crime rate: lived in manor lakes for a few years haven’t had a bad experience yet even with the back door unlocked, Never got robbed once. It was a pretty friendly neighbourhood, all the people there said hello and talked about stuff. Moved to Hampton Park and after 1 year our cars got broken into. Also we have some dodgey neighbors down the road that did some dodgey stuff I.e snooping around etc.

    Internet access: Hampton Park has ftn where as Wyndham Vale has fttp.

    Public transport: Hampton Park after 8:00 AM forget about parking and catching public transport, there will be no parking unless you park in a side street about 1 km away. Also you will be standing most of the time. Wyndham Vale train station has ample parking and depending on where you live in Wyndham Vale, you can walk/ride your bike to the station.

    Nightlife: not/no nightlife in Wyndham Vale or Hampton Park, but if you like the CBD then Wyndham Vale is closer.

    Groceries/markets: Hampton Park is close to Dandenong market if you want fresh produce. Closest market for Wyndham Vale was Werribee and was small only good for veggies and such.

    Land size: is bigger in Hampton Park but the houses are older.

    Community: Hampton Park is non existent, manor lakes usually have fairs, local dog park with obedience training.

    I think the best place to choose is whichever is closest to your family and work.

    • babiguling on 05/02/2018 - 16:07

      Yeah pretty interested with Wyndham Vale/Manor Lakes now after few times visit.
      Thanks for sharing your experience in both suburb =)
      60% I'm leaning towards choosing the west suburb now.

      • burningrage on 05/02/2018 - 21:59

        Look. Ask your friends who currently live in the West and compare to those in the East.

        There are a lot that can be said but can't do so because of fear of being politically incorrect.

        Comments here should be treated as another input but in the end, you should live closer to work and your friends (yes, friends matter).

  • Dr Techno on 05/02/2018 - 16:13

    I think the tip @ Hampton Park has had their operating license extended to 2040.. From forums I think somedays theres a bad smell in the suburb.. I never been there, so dunno if its a concern.. If I had to move out that far, I wouldn't mind moving further out to the new housing estates near a train station (officer ?).. so that I could at least get a seat going into the city and sleeping during my journey.. or reading.

    • serpserpserp on 05/02/2018 - 22:02
      +2

      Or watch the sunrise while waiting for a train that'll get you to the office in the CBD by 9am ;)

  • eleon00 on 06/02/2018 - 13:14

    Ballarat. Changes to the train line will make it sub 60 mins to CBD and house prices aren't that high yet. I feel unsafe in some western suburbs. And not much info on South East burbs

    • mr fox on 06/02/2018 - 15:01

      What changes? Are they being discussed or concrete?

  • samsam10 on 06/02/2018 - 14:11

    Rockbank ,Mt Atkinson would be a good option.

    Woodlea is a Good established Suburb with new schools in the Estate ….Other new Estate are there ..you can shop Around .But this is a Good Community

    Stockland -Mt Atkinson is a new Estate with a lot of Popularity in news -Proposed new train station,Westfield Shopping Center …..They sold last 2 release in 2 min ..

    They take Approx. 40-45 to City both are close to Highway so will have less traffic.

    Tarniet is established but the roads are full of traffic during weekday on Peak Hours .

    Or Try new Estate in North-Olivine/Stockland cloverton but the prices in West are cheaper and less distance to City .

    • d-hunterz on 07/02/2018 - 15:14

      Any links to the sales in Mt Attinkson by Stockland

  • ioga on 06/02/2018 - 14:59

    Southeast is more Asian-friendly. Lebih banyak orang indo disana

    • machej on 06/02/2018 - 23:15
      +2

      Footscray is very asian friendly… also Hoppers.

    • Wills7 on 07/02/2018 - 08:41
      +1

      The stretch from Caulfield to Clayton have lots of Indonesians (and other Asians in general). But Hallam, Hampton Park, Narre Warren?

      • ioga on 07/02/2018 - 11:07

        Narre Warren was a prime spot for Indonesians. Mostly those who decided not to go back home after finishing their studies at the E/SE universities (Monash, Deakin, Swinburne) but was priced out from buying closer to their familiar neighborhoods (i.e Clayton, Box Hill, etc). There's also a lively community in the Cranbourne/Pakenham areas for the Muslim Indonesians because it's close to Dandenong.

  • yoonibear on 07/02/2018 - 10:48

    Seems like they're squeezing everyone into smaller land lots now and the bigger ones are getting snapped up, demolished and rebuilt with 2-3 houses on it.

  • [Deactivated] on 07/02/2018 - 12:15
    +1

    With $500k as your budget, I dont think you can get anything 400sqm in your mentioned SE area (narre warren, hallam, and hampton park). Even all of the H&L packages in Clyde are now over $550k for over 400sqm land. or you can get the 400sqm in Clyde for under $500k but without the building..Maybe it is possible in Pakenham, but its like 10 more mins from Clyde.

    sorry cant comment on the West area.

    Btw, yes saveAhok! kasian Ahok

    • phaol7ta on 07/02/2018 - 22:41

      +1 for mentioning Ahok

  • yjun355 on 07/02/2018 - 18:37

    OP: Would be great if you can let me know on what you decide and outcome of your research. I am in similar situation as you.

    • babiguling on 07/02/2018 - 19:07

      will focus on the west at this stage =) still have room to grow I guess..

  • machej on 07/02/2018 - 21:28

    If anyone wants an investment guide on Werribee that I received feel free to PM me.

    • babiguling on 07/02/2018 - 21:34

      what kind of guide? please share

      Thanks!

      • machej on 08/02/2018 - 22:04

        All sent! Mainly details the investments in the area and a few different stats on property.

    • jrt2020 on 08/02/2018 - 21:49

      Can u please share

      • machej on 08/02/2018 - 22:04

        Sent!

        • babiguling on 08/02/2018 - 22:13

          Thanks heaps mate! =)

    • wils2k on 11/02/2018 - 11:40

      Could you PM me the guide , please?

  • yjun355 on 07/02/2018 - 23:30

    Anyone recommend good buyer's agent specialising such properties. Maybe we get group buy deal :)

    • jrt2020 on 09/02/2018 - 11:33

      Good idea

  • jrt2020 on 11/02/2018 - 08:05
    -2

    West turning worst

    Was in a auction today and at least 30 other people and there were goons driving past us in cars, came back shouted at us and made obscene comments

    Frightening to the kids to the core

    When I read news about worst I dint but seeing it in real , make avoid west altogether particularly Manor lakes, Tarneit , Werribee

    • babiguling on 11/02/2018 - 09:11

      Where did it happen specifically? Which suburb/estate/street?

      • jrt2020 on 11/02/2018 - 21:33

        Eureka drive manor lakes

    • Baysew on 11/02/2018 - 19:14
      +3

      Probably just OzBargain bikies.

      Just an approach to reign in home buying affordability, so there won't be a bidding war at the auction.

    • machej on 11/02/2018 - 21:15

      Nice downramping… people are over it ;)

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