CoTD Promoting Stock Today

Lkrum on 24/11/2010 - 13:59

After yesterdays triumphant deals from COTD they decided to do some PR work on Ozbargain to possibly salvage some customers. They posted some deals allowing us to get discounts on some of their products. After a bit of grilling from some of the members here QQQ decided to get rid of his/her post. QQQ's quote for you all to enjoy: "Please accept my apologies, I will no longer be posting exclusives on OzBargain. Would the nearest moderator please delete the post."

No apologies where handed out just the fact that they knew that the "special" (if you can call it that) was about to go downhill and decided to put their tails between their legs. For a few of the people that tried the deal yesterday and were un/successful a few of the products are back there but at a much higher premium.

Just thought you would all love to know about the kind of business they are.

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  • user27 on 24/11/2010 - 14:01

    so the exclusive deals won't work anymore? i was half way processing my order when I couldnt get the code any more!

  • ozhunter on 24/11/2010 - 14:04
    +2

    Yea sucks for those who were actually gonna buy something, but he had to get it removed or it would be filled with comments exposing their dirty business tactics.

  • krum on 24/11/2010 - 14:05

    I am not too sure, you would have to try it out. Did you know what you wanted I'll see if I can remember the code.

  • andy19363 on 24/11/2010 - 14:17
    +2

    yep….does suck for those that wanted to buy something…….

    prices were good……

    yesterday was yesterday….yes, prices were better…..but that was yesterday…sale was over. One assumes that the goods were loss leaders, limited quantities….happens all the time in retail.

    today….some differing goods, some not….different deal, different day….. prices were ok matched to other retailers….ozbargain codes gave better prices…..(they didn't have to do it)

    I wouldn't be surprised if he just thought "sod it….not worth the hassle"

    Are we now better off?

    • QQQ - CatchOfTheDay on 24/11/2010 - 14:28
      -4

      This.

      • sparkles on 24/11/2010 - 15:03

        What. A. Dignified. Reply. To. This. Thread. Not.

      • JPOWER on 24/11/2010 - 15:54

        you're not making any friends QQQ.

      • drdolphin on 24/11/2010 - 15:57

        This…is the attitude that saw a couple of thousand negative comments on their facebook yesterday, and why a LOT of people will never use their site again.

  • user27 on 24/11/2010 - 14:32

    this what?

  • krum on 24/11/2010 - 14:45

    But how can a business say they have run out of stock of a particular item at a special price then the next day post up the same item for a higher price. I am pretty sure that a business that does that is in breach of Section 52 of the TPA.

    I don't mind that Catch of the Day post bargains here, in fact it's better for us. I would just like to know how they expect to grow their business when they are being disloyal to their customers. They probably turned away more then 100 customers yesterday no business in their right mind would turn away that much potential revenue.

    Using yesterday as an example, their servers where down. People were not complaining that they missed out but the fact that the site could not hold a certain capacity. The server then mislead people to believe that they still had an opportunity to purchase an item and so they waited sometimes half an hour.

    Do you (QQQ) believe that this is how the likes of ebay, facebook, google etc. run their business. If ebay (for example) was to crash when you are about to purchase an item, do you believe that their net worth would be as high as it is today?

    Just some food for thought and as they must know from their comments section on facebook that they are disappointing customers and I personally do not know how a business can operate with feedback like that.

    • bort on 24/11/2010 - 15:11

      QQQ had commented that they were in fact different items. (the samsung hdd was different).

      • JPOWER on 24/11/2010 - 15:53

        earphones, camera were the same.

    • andy19363 on 24/11/2010 - 15:14
      +2

      all I know is that today, there is a 640gb hard drive that is cheaper than the best on static ice.
      with the ozbargain special, that took another $20 off that price.

      Yet people bitched about it, the company, sales tactics, etc etc…..and the offer was withdrawn - (why would anyone subject themselves to such attacks)

      I don't care about yesterday, I know the form for those days, so don't bother. The sales are so popular, the servers crash. Doesn't bother me
      Section 52 of the TPA doesn't bother me
      how they run their business doesn't bother me

      I see…. hard drive cheaper than anywhere else (today), with a special that took another $20 off

      what is there to bitch about?

      (apart from the fact I now have to pay $20 more)

      • krum on 24/11/2010 - 15:34

        So breaching the law doesn't bother you? I never said their HDD's were the same, but the camera is identical. There tactics may not bother you but it has clearly bothered other people and it seems as if you are just a person who only cares about what people have to offer you. You are getting angry and rude because they withdrew an offer that was meant to satisfy Ozbargainers, clearly it has not satisfied us.

        No-one attacked QQQ, we were pointing out that the way that they are conducting business is frustrating for us and will be detrimental to their business.

        You say that Section 52 of the TPA doesn't bother you so If a company was to mislead and deceive you, you would be completely fine with it?

        None of the staff have apologised for the way yesterday was run, and as consumers the least we deserve is an apology instead they decide to keep quiet. If you walked into JB or HN etc. and they had a special item for $10 and you wanted to purchase it but they said they ran out. You then come back the next day and the same item is for $80 you as a customer would not feel as if the company has done something wrong?

        You can take it upon yourself and ask QQQ to send you a code to give you $20 of the HDD since that is the basis of you argument.

        • andy19363 on 24/11/2010 - 15:39

          they were clear about how many were available for the sale….how were you misled?

        • krum on 24/11/2010 - 15:47

          It said the item was "sold out", they were clear about how many was for sale, but they said it would be available until all the stock was gone or sold out. Then today I see the exact same camera for $80. I don't understand how they got the same item shipped out to their warehouse so fast. Also to further justify the point yesterday after the camera was "sold out", they straight away then put it on small-fish for the same price they have it today. Can you explain how that is not misleading?

        • andy19363 on 24/11/2010 - 15:56

          How many times do you see/hear ads talking 'for the first 50 only' 'only for the first 100 callers' etc etc? Standard sales practice

          Every deal will have a minimum of 100 units available and a maximum of 1000.
          http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/news.php?article=503

          again, what's misleading?
          It would surely be naive to think that there would be unlimited stock of a loss leader. It's not a charity…..

        • Tenebrae on 25/11/2010 - 01:11

          Edit: Removed in light of QQQ's response below.

  • h4lcyon on 24/11/2010 - 14:57

    damn… was after the headphones

  • jv on 24/11/2010 - 15:23

    I find it really annoying that when you purchase a product from them, and it does not work as advertised, they give you a refund for the product, but do not refund the postage…

    You end up being out of pocket and it is entirely their fault !!!

    I have decided never to purchase from them again, regardless of what they are selling items for…

  • cyssero on 24/11/2010 - 15:29
    +3

    I always thought the OB community was smart enough to know that when COTD do their big sales, very few can get through. I don't hold a grudge against COTD for doing so.

    So if they want to offer some discounts for us to make up for the peak in traffic on their site, that's fine by me. At least we'll be able to make use of the deals now, unlike yesterday.

    I would still like to see COTD deals here, because overall my buying experience with them has been pretty good. If the moderators haven't got a problem with it, I personally welcome future COTD deals here.

    • krum on 24/11/2010 - 15:38

      I do to, they do have cheap items and today I received my shopping items from last week tuesday and I am extremely pleased. They do everything in terms of the product right except when it comes to customer service. These sale-athons like yesterday they get it wrong, and is a huge flaw in their business dealing with customers.

  • BuyoTheCat on 24/11/2010 - 15:38
    +1

    They aint the dodgiest clearance type place that for sure. There are far dodgier ones out there.

    MY experiance with COTD is ok. Despatch was a bit slow but everything else was good.

  • QQQ - CatchOfTheDay on 24/11/2010 - 16:08
    +20

    Here's my side of the story, whether you believe it or not is another thing. I honestly don't care if JPOWER and Mat777 tally their 2000th consecutive negative vote on one of my comments.

    I used to LOVE seeing our deals discussed, debated and up-voted and down-voted strictly on the basis of what was offered.

    Nowadays I can't stand the neo-whirlpoolian finger pointing and conspiracy theorizing that has become part of the character of this community.

    If you don't like our hour by hour sales events, then I would think you would simply choose to not participate.

    What does it have to do with the coupon codes I offered today?

    What I love to see is the votes, the feedback, it gives me a lot of insight. I learn more from a simple comment by some of the more experienced bargain hunters here, than I do from a 5 hour seminar held by Deloittes.

    When I spend two hours entering coupon codes in our system, listing nine deals at under cost, and then to see just vendetta comments and votes, I choose to no longer participate.

    If there is no quality discussion, I see no point. Believe it or not, I've been a member here for longer than most of you, and it wasn't always like this.

    Anyway - I don't enjoy it all anymore, shall not be posting exclusives anymore in future, there more vendetta votes than anything else.

    • cyssero on 24/11/2010 - 17:46
      +4

      Well, definitely seems like you've made up your mind, but should you have a change of heart down the track… I'd welcome bargains posted by you in the future.

      If you look at the posts made here, you can see it's not the majority of the community, and only what appears to be a small minority. However, I can understand you wouldn't want a search result to turn up an OzBargain posting with all sorts of accusations being made about your company.

      Guess it's the same sort of thing which drove Warcom off Whirlpool.

    • h4lcyon on 24/11/2010 - 21:25

      It's one of the unfortunate consequences of a growing community, as more people join the core ideal is diluted with politics. There are valid points about sale items being re-sold, but cheap deals is what we are all here for.

      Now, I've been a member longer than u, can I please have a coupon code for the headphones? ;)

  • krum on 24/11/2010 - 16:13
    +1

    @andy19363

    The way you write your text makes you seem really rude. Anyway, I understand that you believe they were fair, but how can they say they have sold out of an item then only 10 -15mins later say they have the item in stock but for a higher price. That is called a bait and switch and that is deemed illegal in the TPA, and I am quite confident if a company/business is caught doing that they will receive a substantial fine. So please explain to me how this is not misleading.

    • bort on 24/11/2010 - 16:26

      they are different items - different models

      • krum on 24/11/2010 - 16:31

        They are the same champ. Hence the 8K likes.

        • bort on 24/11/2010 - 16:45
          +1

          i was under the impression yesterday was a S2 and today is a G2 … only really looked at the samsung drives

        • Trance N Dance on 24/11/2010 - 16:51

          Nope they're different mate.
          It's just the camera and earphones that are the same or something.

        • krum on 24/11/2010 - 17:30
          +1

          I was talking about the camera but you are right about the HDD's

    • andy19363 on 24/11/2010 - 16:35
      +3

      I am not really rude…

      A corporation that has, in trade or commerce, advertised goods or services for supply at a specified price shall offer such goods or services for supply at that price for a period that is, and in quantities that are, reasonable having regard to the nature of the market in which the corporation carries on business and the nature of the advertisement.

      They tell you they have between 100 and 1000 of each item on sale (not in stock….on sale). Once the sale stock are sold, they are sold, and the price reverts to the original price. They inform you when the sale stock is gone with a big sold out sign.
      I guess it's not up to us to decide what is "quantities that are, reasonable"

      • krum on 24/11/2010 - 16:51
        -1

        Very true, it would be really hard to determine the market and the appropriate quantity.

        There is a very broad provision in the Trade Practices Act that prohibits conduct by a corporation that is misleading or deceptive, or would be likely to mislead or deceive you.

        It makes no difference whether the business intended to mislead or deceive you—it is how the conduct of the business affected your thoughts and beliefs that matters.

        If the overall impression left by an advertisement, promotion, quotation, statement or other representation made by a business creates a misleading impression in your mind—such as to the price, value or the quality of any goods and services—then the conduct is likely to breach the law.

        Anyway lets not turn this into a law lesson, I have had enough Business Law for one semester. The problem is the servers that they utilise, they always have been the issue and looks as if they always will be.

      • krum on 24/11/2010 - 16:51

        Sorry double post.

  • krum on 24/11/2010 - 16:20
    +2

    It is good to see you are commenting back QQQ, I hope that you don't view this forum as an attack just a belief that some of us are getting our points across. I do hope that you believe that most of us do enjoy the site on a normal day to day basis, and that their are some great bargains that you do offer us.

    You say that we are making conspiracy theories and accusations etc. Why do you believe that there is these accusations and finger pointing? Do you believe that you are treating the consumer fairly? I would like to know your point of view on this. I sincerely hope that people are not doing vendetta votes as it is not productive in anyway. I am also sorry to hear that you will not be posting exclusives here anymore, as I am sure most of us do appreciate them when there is no madness.

  • neil on 24/11/2010 - 16:43
    +14

    100% agree with QQQ. And it extends to new posters as well. Why would any rep or user bother to post anything, when people are going to jump down their throat. It's one thing to politely comment but it's another to make them feel stupid/upset.

  • Gaz1 on 24/11/2010 - 17:04
    +3

    Hi QQQ, I appreciate your comments & tend to agree.

    • You didn't say ALL of your stock ws at a crazy price, so it is not suprising you still hae some left. The special offer you are doing for us today is still well under the market prices.

    • The prices were obviously a loss-leader, well under cost & the lucky ones that managed to get these yesterday should be VERY happy.

    • My main complaint (and it seems the complaints of many) is the server/website crashes! If you are going to continue these crazy "on the hour" type sales you REALLY need to do something about your website.
      Whilst I understand that most servers would crash with the massive number of people trying to get these deals, there must be some sort of way of load balancing to avoid this issue. Perhaps have a special "front page" that allows the first 100 (or whatever) people to click "allocate one for me". Everyone after this time gets a "sold out" message. The people that managed to get one allocated then have 45 minutes (for example) to complete the transaction - plenty of time for the frenzy of activity to die down & your server response times to be back to normal.

    I'm sure most of us appreciate the special deal & hope you can reconsider (especially if you fix the website!).

    • issh on 24/11/2010 - 17:33

      it's not only Catch of the Day, that has these crashes, ebay has them, well basically nearly every website will if a load of people try to access it

  • lovedeals on 24/11/2010 - 17:14
    +7

    Completely agree with QQQ, I no longer post deals for this purpose. This forum seems like a community of warriors ready to attack/insult you.

  • roadtrip24 on 24/11/2010 - 18:17
    +6

    There has been unnecessary negativity and perhaps unrealistic expectations which has now resulted in the community being deprived of potential bargains. Companies are allowed to have sales on limited items without discounting their entire stock of items. This time to combat the previous accusations of there were none and nobody got one, they gave a range how many would be sold at massively discounted prices.
    Their method of sale may be frustrating for the individual but is simply the online version of when a store advertises 5 items say washing machine at a massive discount for first come first serve. It's like a store stampede with people pushing and shoving to try to get in first. At the end of the day it's a lucky draw really and if that is too upsetting, just don't attend.

  • stumo on 24/11/2010 - 21:40
    +3

    You guys can harp on all you want about legality of what they've done etc etc, but at the end of the day…

    COTD has generated a lot of disgruntled (potential) customers, and today was proof of that (allegedly, since I never saw any of it). Many people along the way have been saying this will happen if they continue with their style of "promotions", and did they listen? no, they chose to have a sook instead.

    Maybe now they will listen, or maybe not. Either way, if/when they do have genuine bargains in future, they will be posted and judged on here by the community just like everyone else.

    • andy19363 on 24/11/2010 - 21:58

      but, like today, the bargains are often not judged……people were negging todays deal because they didn't like the 'promotions' - mainly from yesterday. Negging because things were cheaper yesterday, and they didn't get what they wanted, or the server was down or whatever.

      At least one of the deals today was a very good deal….. (I didn't research all of them)

      the mob light their torches, raise their pitchforks and became suddenly blind to what's in front of them….

      more evidence of the howling mob http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/34863

      and we will all lose out because no-one will want to post, and subject themselves to such a public lynching….

      • stumo on 24/11/2010 - 22:08

        the mob light their torches, raise their pitchforks and became suddenly blind

        but that's what I'm saying, COTD brought that upon themselves. Its been building up more and more every time they "promote" their site this past year or so. If anything, COTD are the visually challenged here.

        and we will all lose out because no-one will want to post

        If its a genuine bargain, it will still be posted. This site is called OzBargain after all. Obviously there will be a cooling off period…

        Perhaps it was the fact the rep was on here posting the new "bargains" personally, the very day after pi55ing off so many people with the same and similar items said people were wasting their time with the day before. Again, someone needs to open their eyes.

        • andy19363 on 24/11/2010 - 22:51

          COTD brought that upon themselves. Its been building up more and more every time they “promote” their site this past year or so.

          I can't see what that has to do with today's deal. Just because I couldn't get on their website yesterday/last week/2 years ago does not change this deal. I'd be happy to hear if they were not delivering goods, or the product was crap, or it was cheaper elsewhere….neg away….but don't neg just because you didn't win what amounts to a lottery

          If its a genuine bargain, it will still be posted. This site is called OzBargain after all.

          today was a genuine bargain…..the post was ripped to pieces

          I reckon many retailers will be getting very reluctant to post, or have any of their bargains posted, as the risk of negative publicity (often unwarranted) will get too high, (macdonalds anyone?). Where ozbargain had been seen as a good marketing tool, I suspect that is changing and retailers will not want to be exposed to risk.

    • scotty on 24/11/2010 - 22:16
      +5

      Whatever their method of promotion is, the fact is that some people are getting these items at heavily discounted prices. Without special promotions, without those online merchants competing for price, without them feeding back to the community, etc — let's see what kind of discount are we getting.

      We probably ended up still buying over priced items at Harvey Norman.

      The very reason I am allowing merchant posting on OzBargain (I know many people don't agree with this, and many community forums don't allow this) is — that "good bargains" are often archived by enthusiastic community AND willing merchants working together. Just look at all the OZBARGAIN exclusive coupon codes posted by various merchants here. IMHO these are much better than exploits and hacks.

      Anyway. As "andy19363" has said. We are all losing out — some people could buy the things they want at cheaper price using those coupon codes.

      • Mikinoz on 26/11/2010 - 12:25

        No one losses when you dont spend money, this is the trick we are all lead to believe from vendors or sites like this.

        Being a member i am seeing a shift in the support for vendors and less for general users.

        Also there seems to be an influx of sockpuppets and group buying deals which have really changed the flow of the site

        • andy19363 on 26/11/2010 - 12:40

          i am seeing a shift in the support for vendors and less for general users.

          What does it matter who posts the deal?
          If I can get an item that I am looking for at a price considerably better than anywhere else, then I don't care if it's a vendor or John Smith that posts it, (or indeed a vendor called John Smith)
          It may be that vendor postings are indeed better than the John Smith postings, as vendors have direct knowledge and control over their pricing, whereas John Smith can only pass on second hand information (which is generally received from vendors).

          I have no problem with poor deals being highlighted, both vendor posted and otherwise. However, having good deals attacked and removed because some have an unrelated issue with the poster is benefitting no one.

  • AntMan76 on 24/11/2010 - 22:40
    +2

    There is a difference between disappointed customers who tried to get a very very cheap item, and those who attack for nothing. There is a mob mentality that sometimes rears its ugly head and COTD is always a victim of this.

    And I have been critical of COTD in the past but I consider myself to have provided feedback on how not to do something. But COTD has provided some bloody good deals (and exclusive mind you) in the past. QQQ if we knew you were taking feedback on board then I think it would go a long way. But I understand you getting jack with the unjustified crap thrown your way.

    • infernal_max on 25/11/2010 - 04:47

      qqq, it wouldnt hurt you to follow the internet version of the sorry, glad, sure formula, Just what are you doing to give your customers an incentive to try next time? Withhold coupon codes?

      Sure your business is targeted unfairly, but your customer relations are quite poor, and ive been observing your deals as a member for almost a year as a member and occasional browser.

      • Mikinoz on 26/11/2010 - 12:27

        Totally agreed , no other retaler or etailer would get away with so many unhappy customers

  • stumo on 26/11/2010 - 11:49
    -1

    The more I think about it, the more I think this has been a fairly successful troll perpetrated by qqq. Intentional or not.

  • andy19363 on 26/11/2010 - 11:52

    stumo on 24/11/2010 - 20:10

    today was proof of that (allegedly, since I never saw any of it).

    • stumo on 26/11/2010 - 16:19
      -1

      Every time you reply, you just reinforce my view that this was simply a COTD trolling exercise, like a parting shot for the OzB community.

      Therefore I say goodbye COTD and this whole issue. It's not like there isn't any competition out there!

  • Mikinoz on 26/11/2010 - 13:23

    @ Andy

    "I have no problem with poor deals being highlighted, both vendor posted and otherwise. However, having good deals attacked and removed because some have an unrelated issue with the poster is benefitting no one"

    Thats your opinion, most would say its not unrelated as its the same vendor , so what are you saying we should all forget about the post sale service?

    Personally the amount you defend them its starting to seem we have yet another sock puppet

    • andy19363 on 26/11/2010 - 14:08
      +3

      I am defending what was as a good deal removed, and would do so had it been logitechshop, dell or any other vendor. I don't believe that a handful of axe-grinding individuals should deny the rest of the community access to potentially good bargains.

      In a nutshell, the deal was slammed thus….. "This is a very bad deal, because people couldn't get on to your website yesterday….and that has happened before"….and…."something you had yesterday is more expensive today"……"you have a bad marketing strategy"…… Which is of course ridiculous as they say nothing about the current …

      Would be happy to hear…."This vendor does not deliver, they steal your money" or "I have this product, it breaks easily", or "it's much cheaper at xxx.com"….or indeed, "they have a terrible post-sale service"…..no problems with any of that, about any vendor.

      However, that deal was removed…..and, potentially, access to further ozbargain-only deals.
      Again……how does that benefit the community?

      • Mikinoz on 26/11/2010 - 14:11

        Again you defend them over and over, why?

        Yet you condem the community you belong to, well at least half the members

        • andy19363 on 26/11/2010 - 14:30
          +1

          Clearly this is going over your head….
          It's not about defending any particular vendor. It's about the actions of a few impacting on many.

          http://www.ozbargain.com.au/deals/catchoftheday.com.au

          486 deals - average of 14.4 % positive

          Whether you like it or not, it's a popular retailer….

          It's like going to a shop and finding a crowd outside saying "sorry mate, you can't go in….we don't like the guy who runs it"

          Whilst your sock-puppet intimation is amusing, it is as ridiculous, (and helpful), as someone saying "Again you attack them over and over, are you a competitor?"

  • clandestino on 26/11/2010 - 13:44
    +1

    I think that when you consider all of the past CotD deals, and incidents, you have to weigh up the positives and the negatives.

    On the positive side of things, there are definitely a few people out there who have purchased some bargains.

    But on the negative side, there are many, many people who have become frustrated after wasting their time.

    I am a firm believer in that saying 'time is money', so for me CotD have not really helped the bargain hunting community; they've actually done the opposite (in my opinion) by wasting their time.

  • infernal_max on 26/11/2010 - 15:50
    -2

    Why is it so hard to get a straight answer out of cotd fanboys like Andy and cripto?!? Anyone?!? I can't see how a basic question like why do you defend cotd so much results in as much spin as a politician

    • andy19363 on 26/11/2010 - 17:13

      I'm sorry, we're probably using too many words for you…..I'll try again

      If COTD (or any other retailer) has a great deal….I want to know about it
      If they have ozbargain-only deals, I want to know about it, (it may well be that the deal will not suit me or I consider the deal crap…..I still want to know about it)
      If they are not participating… There will be no ozbargain deals, and no-one will know about it

      Hope that's ok
      give me a shout if you need anything else explaining…..

      • infernal_max on 26/11/2010 - 19:36

        stop being arrogant and just answer the question, without your giving us your life story experience with COTD

        • andy19363 on 26/11/2010 - 19:50

          well, I'm not sure how else I can answer it….
          How can I make it simpler for you?
          Maybe English is not your first language?

          Help me out here….

  • neil on 26/11/2010 - 16:44
    +8

    stumo, mikinoz,& infernal

    andy and others have expressed a differing opinion than yours explaining qqq's point of view of posting here. By calling people a sockpuppet, a spinning politician or a troll you are reinforcing the reason qqq and other posters have with posting here. It's rude, inflammatory and unnecessary to resort to these measures while having a discussion. It's not conducive to a friendly environment.

    It's things like that drove the reps for Exetel, People Telecom (if that exists anymore), and Warcom away from the Whirlpool forums. Compare the number of negative threads about an ISP and then look at the yearly survey result. Compare the negative comments in this thread with the voting on QQQ's comment. Unfortunately when it comes to online forums, it's always the negatives that stand out even though the majority of customers have no problems with them.

    You have to sit back and realise that there are actual people sitting behind these forums who deserve the same respect as if you were talking to them in person.

    • stumo on 26/11/2010 - 17:20
      -1

      For the record I only said COTD/QQQ were trolling, buy giving the exclusive OzB bargains, and then taking them away. I think it worked quite well, don't you.

    • infernal_max on 26/11/2010 - 19:34
      -2

      neil, i do agree with you, but i dont think a straight answer is all that unreasonable, and the analogy of a spinning politician is a direct comment to cripto and andy's comments only.

    • scotty on 27/11/2010 - 02:33
      +1

      The sockpuppet reference would be coming from here. Yes I think the call is really not necessary on this forum.

      @stumo — QQQ has explained the reason why he decided to withdraw the coupons. If the definition of "troll" is those done actions purposefully annoying or angering other online users, then I guess what QQQ has done fits the bill. However the same could be said about the commenters that caused QQQ to withdraw the coupon code.

      @infernal_max — I think it is just the way Andy explains things. Trying to decipher that into a straight answer on why he defended for COTD — I think he just happens to like CatchOfTheDay offers, like many others who have voted for their deals in the past.

      • andy19363 on 27/11/2010 - 11:39
        +2

        I think he just happens to like CatchOfTheDay offers

        I'm no particular fan of cotd, have never posted a deal for them, have probably voted positive for them a few times, but that's about it…..I would have felt the same way about any retailer, (even harris technology, eh mik…wink wink)
        I like any good offers and I don't like having those offers taken away from the community by a vocal minority.

        But…if it makes things easier…
        I love catch of the day…I want to have their babies….one day I hope to move into their warehouse and live amongst the beautiful products they sell…. I have named my children Q, Q and Q, so that when they stand together I am reminded of my favourite shop…… Every few weeks, I spend an hour cursing at my screen, tapping refresh, just to remind myself how much fun the sales are…..I have a tattoo of their logo on my right buttock……
        Hope this clears up any confusion

  • andy19363 on 26/11/2010 - 17:04
    +5

    Follow it through people……..

    retailer A posts a deal - It gets a number of irrelevant and inappropriate negs.
    retailer A withdraws from posting any deals.
    John Smith posts a deal he saw at retailer A. Same crew neg for same inappropriate reasons.
    retailer A requests all references to their business be withdrawn from ozbargain in fear of further adverse publicity.

    retailer B looks at the difficulties retailer A has faced.
    Decides it not worth the risk of adverse publicity, requests all references removed.

    Ozbargain gets reputation…

    John Smith finds there is nothing left to post….

    ozbargainers cry……

    • leiiv on 26/11/2010 - 17:27

      Well, perhaps some retailers are smart enough not to make their customer angry, and therefore, will not generate any "adverse publicity".

      • andy19363 on 26/11/2010 - 19:44
        +3

        One might have assumed perhaps that ozbargain members were smarter than the average customer….able to see through these one-day sale stunts.

        However,
        Despite the history, despite the fact we were warned how few items would be available, despite the fact the retailers site itself said….

        You will be competing for access to the deals with over 200,000 visitors on the day. If you are not the competitive type, take the day off and we will see you on Wednesday

        despite all that, people still sat there like demented lab rats pressing their refresh button in the forlorn hope they would get lucky. I guess I can understand people getting angry at their own stupidity. They must find lottery nights incredibly difficult…."what!!! we haven't won again!!! not fair, wahhh, etc etc"
        We're all adults…we choose how we waste our time and money…we should also take some responsibility for it….

      • scotty on 27/11/2010 - 02:17
        +1

        perhaps some retailers are smart enough not to make their customer angry

        Sizeable example?

        • krum on 27/11/2010 - 12:17

          quite a number of internet retailers do provide great prices, customer service, postage etc. Anyway I think that the forum is getting out of hand and everyone seems to be attacking each other, I think we should close it down as I can only see it going downhill.

        • andy19363 on 27/11/2010 - 12:27

          @scotty

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1332094/Amazons-Chri…

          global gullibility, (is that even a word?)

          :)

  • AntMan76 on 28/11/2010 - 17:37
    +1

    I reckon they mainly need to fix the shopping cart problem (where the item isn't reserved when it is added to your cart) and many people will be a bit happier.

    You would think such a big marketer would see this and fix it.

    • Trance N Dance on 28/11/2010 - 17:43

      Nah it wouldn't cause the site will continue to crash, and the same number of people will still miss out.

  • scotty on 28/11/2010 - 22:31
    +1

    I am agreeing with OP here — I think the discussion here is getting over heated (I myself included), and I think it is a good time to take a break now.

    There are still a lot of things for CoTD to work on, and I am sure the team down there will continue try to improve their service. I do hope more good offers from CatchOfTheDay will be posted on OzBargain.

    At the same time those 24-hour sales have been recurring fail. I think it is really damaging their name, and I personally do not wish to see it again (unless they are confident that server issue is permanently fixed).

    This thread will be closed for now. Thanks for the discussion.

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