1 Week special then prices will increase — get a bargain whilst stocks last !!
Brand New in Box with full Epson Australia Warranty
Will not be answering any questions here.
Please email [email protected] or call us with numbers shown on the Kickstart Computers website
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Full specs can be found by visiting the below link
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what do you mean its $3599inc with free delivery — the RRP is $4499inc..
is the RRP price on the deal making it confusing ..?
Should i remove it do you think ..?
Quote the saving off your normal selling price and you'll be ok.
Thanks for the advice — less confusing now for others — cheers..
im not sure yet what the new pricing will be (as have not purchased replacement stock) and so thought its a better sales pitch to say how much off the RRP the price is.. Cheers..
i cant find it cheaper on a quick google so do you have a link?
Im confused. Seems like its a good deal.
I cant find it cheaper??
Do you mean because of the cost of it? I just checked around and this is the cheapest available so qualifies as a good deal..
Looks like OP is undercutting everyone by at least $500?
Yeah I don’t know what tith is talking about 🤔 I can’t find it anywhere near that price.
That's a reason for a neg is it?
no not willing to answer here… & directing to hotlines
I have TW8100 its really a good projector, I am happy with it, wanted to move to 9300tw
no not willing to answer here
Doesn't work that way, why did you neg?
@Scab: I believe chutibuti is referring that the rep is not willing to answer questions here and redirects questions to hotline.
Why would you pay $3599 for a 1080p projector?
Does this look better then an $800 LCD Epson 1080p projector?
Surely it can't look that much better, maybe better colours…
True, even though its 10bit colour, I dont think HDR is doable on projectors atm.
4K upscaling might look ok but not quite as good as native.
If it were me I would pay the extra $500 and get that 65" LG Oled from last weeks sales next time.
4k upscaling is useless for projectors as the general issue with 1080p on a projector is the large pixels due to displaying it at 100+ inches.
The 4k upscale would be barely noticeable on this projector, so I'm wondering what the extra $2800 is for.
Why would you pay $3599 for a 1080p projector?
Yes, LCD panel is (only) full-HD, however, by pixel-shifting it, the projection is closer to 4K. It's a transitional technology compromised for price, but with 4K input, it is better than a static full-HD projection.
Seller should have explained Epson's "4K Enhancement" term and why it costs extra.
I'm going to need a source on that.
Pixel shifting at least to me is technology in Plasma screens to prevent burn in.
How exactly can the projection be closer to 4k?
1080p is 1080p, you can't add or fake more pixels.
I'm going to need a source on that.
good on you - consumers should always verify vendor claims.
1080p is 1080p, you can't add or fake more pixels.
in spatial domain, no, but in temporal domain, yes. NTSC & PAL broadcast did the latter for 60 years using interlacing - transmitting and (sequentially) displaying two fields (at half horizontal resolution) to make a perceived frame (at full resolution).
Interlacing has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
Interlacing does absolutely nothing with visible pixels.
Also interlacing looks bad anyway.
I would STRONGLY suggest that you, and all the others speculating on the quality of this projector, to go and have an audition. I paid pretty high price for this when it came out in Australia and it was an eye opener from my other projector.. I really don't think you can compare to the $800 projector..
Silly comment…
1080p to 4k is a complete beat up anyway.
This projector has far better contrast than cheaper Epsons, has a dynamic iris, great black level.
Contrast is what makes the experience better, NOT RESOLUTION. Not in this case above 1080p. Why do you think the the last plasmas (5yrs old) still look better than new 4k LCDs? Why are OLEDs so much better again? Contrast. Resolution is marketing beat up. Read some reviews, this projector is very, very good.
An $800 projector has dynamic iris.
This projector might have better contract but it would be miles and miles away from OLED TV's.
Resolution is huge on a 120" projector setup, 1080p is only just good enough at that size, I can only assume you are comparing small screens.
Epson for $800 has dynamic iris? News to me.
Did I say projectors had as good contrast as OLED? No. Was merely making a point about res v contrast.
1080p is brilliant at 120inch, as long as source is good. 4K brings hdr with it, which helps. I’d still challenge anyone to say that 1080p to 4K (res alone) on a projector improves the experience over superior contrast. On panel tv, 4K is sheer marketing beat up.
You are making the assumption that to get good contrast you need to spend $3599
The move from 1080p to 4k is huge on a big screen.
Most people disregard 4k because they saw it on a 65" TV up close.
No, you're putting words in my post.. again. You said there was an $800 projector with dynamic iris. The Epsons w/dynamic iris have the best black level of LCD projectors I've seen, as good as the lower JVCs at their darkest (JVCs better overall - more stable). They kill Sony with no iris.
The move from 1080p to 4k on a 120inch screen is not huge to the naked eye. Specs wise, yes. Again, the gains for projectors is in the contrast, that's what will fundamentally provide a better experience and the great challenge. Good 1080p projectors on 120 inch screens from 3.5m-4m are already as sharp as a tack.
Have you seen 4k on a 120 inch screen? Which projector was it? when did it happen? I doubt you have.
The difference between the best projector contrast and the best TV contrast is huge, projector is always average due to the way it works.
As I said, spending $3599 on a projector with pretend 4k and better contrast is mostly a waste of money.
I've seen the VPLVW260 twice. Once at Klapp, once fired against a wall only (work colleague). Again with your assumptions and putting words in my posts. Not doing too well are you?
And AGAIN with you comparing OLED to projectors, why? I said that the biggest challenge for projectors is contrast, obviously it's because of the way it produces an image.
Your last point is useless unless you make a comparison to something else. Spending $3599 for the Epson gives stunning results, not dissimilar to the Sony I've mentioned, which is 3k or so more! 4k is not a big deal. Dynamic iris does make a big difference too I'm afraid. Have you seen one?
It seems as though you've purchased something cheap and are trying to defend your decision to yourself. Be happy with what you've got champ.
I own an Epson projector with dynamic iris, shows what you know.
I've seen 4k on a projector and it was a huge improvement, I can only assume they used a poor source for yours.
No you don't, there's no way you'd get so defensive about defending projectors without it. Nice story.
Yeah, Klapp - one of the most reputable HT shops in Melbourne is not going to show 4k on a 4k projector they wish to sell. Get real. You're really not very good at this are you champ? Run along now and enjoy your cheap Epson. ;-)
Actually its quite common to use poor sources, I think Samsung have been one of the best for good video sources on their TV's in public displays. LG are pretty average in that they only show heavily edited videos to show off their OLED capabilities so you don't get a very good idea.
Anyway I'm not going to waste time talking to you anymore, I'm just going to leave this picture here, a photo of my Epson projector, maybe try not jumping to conclusions next time.
Thats not how it works, if you post here you answer questions here.
Yeah, sorry. I gotta agree.
If you post here you cant expect people to contact via email.
Its also to the benefit of yourself and others so your not answering the same questions over and over.
oh mate, this is the end of your deal
Hey guys. FYI in the spirit of Ozbargain you can get a TW9300 (model up)for around this price. This is the premium model only sold through specialist AV dealers. While the Epson projectors are good for their price point I noticed some of you guys are comparing them to the LG OLED. If you expect that level of black and HDR then you really need to look at JVC projectors such as the X5500 and up
how to get TW9300 at this price?
Call digital cinema, i believe peter works there
usual places… Videopro are down in the low 4k
DC will be under 4k when eBay has a decent sitewide discount
If not willing to field questions here then don't post here. This is a community not dumping ground for advertisements.
then ask about the deal - poster has answered all questions concerning that
I am not allowed to
RE 4k it's up scaling - All models are "4K e-Shift4" which shifts the pixels from the 1080p D-ILA (LCOS) chips horizontally and vertically by half a pixel to simulate a 3,840x2,160 resolution on screen
Epson use LCD, not LCoS.
The blurb was from Epson
Yes. Its optical upscaling not digital. Its not as bad as most people think. Take the time to go see one if you can. You will be surprised. For example, I have personally had a customer who returned a 4K native sony projector and purchased a JVC X9500 because he felt the picture was better. This customer was picky. your mileage/opinion may vary
True, i know guys who traded sony for new ivc projectors, sony is true 4k but jvc is upscaled. The blacks and hdr works better in jvc thats what they claim. I had a sony 45es which is a 1080p i upgraded to a jvc x7000 4k eshift which doesnt have hdr but still massive difference
Is that negative worthy?
They love the JVC PJ's over at Stereonet, if cable run is 10M+ need a HDMI Fibre Optic cable for UHD 4K too but not cheap.
I have no problem playing 4k in my jvc on a 10m standard hdmi cable
think if over 10m hdmi copper cables don't do UHD 4K.
Still waiting on gearbest to stock xiaomi mi laser projector
C'mon mate, please don't post this as a 'deal'
You should ask a mod to remove this post for you before the negs start coming
Just some friendly advice