Tyres for a SUV: 245/55 R19

[Deactivated] on 18/09/2017 - 11:38
Last edited 19/09/2017 - 05:01

Looking for tyres for my SUV (Kluger). The tyre size is 245/55 R19. Bridgestone Dueler HL/400 is an option and is one of the cheapest. I have had Bridgestone's on my car throughout, but I am not happy at how fast they wear out.

I talked to Bob Jane's and they said that the reason they are wearing on the outside edge is due to the tyre pressure being low. The recommended tyre pressure is 210Kpa ~32 psi. Bob Jane worker said that I need to pump them to a minimum of 38psi (40 being better). Currently, there are no deals on these at Bridgestone. Yokohama has buy 3 get 1 free at the moment. I was also told that Yokohama's have a better wear rating (600), compared to Dueler's (400). It is an expensive exercise if I change to Yokohama's as they will cost me $960.

What do you think about Yokohama tyres? Are they any better and does increasing the tyre pressure lead to an even wear?

One of the tyre…
https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/77976/52295/20170918_2…

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  • altomic on 18/09/2017 - 11:46

    3 months ago I bought tyres for my 2013 Outlander from a new car wrecker.

    they came with more recent/updated rims.

    the tyres had only done 5000kms before someone had rear ended the donor vehicle.

    cost me $510.

    at my next service I had them rotated and balanced - all good

    just saying.

    • m0tyrider on 19/09/2017 - 20:01

      The age of the tyres will let you down. With them being already 4 years old, the grip levels will start to drop off. Most manufactures say 6 years out of a tyre then its done. Take that with some salt, but I would never run a really old tyre no matter what kind of tread it has left on it.

      • altomic on 19/09/2017 - 20:07

        the car they came off was a 2016 model. the car I put them on is my 2013

        • m0tyrider on 19/09/2017 - 20:08

          Not a bad pickup then, nice bargaining.

          Miss read your post as they came off a 2013 Outlander.

  • JimB on 18/09/2017 - 12:09
    +1

    In my experience in road CARS Yokohama's generally wear out faster than Bridgestone due to the compound. You cannot compare the wear rating between difference brands. Wear rating can be used as a guide within the same brand.

    They are both good tyres, but I opted for Bridgestone for my SUV.

    Specifically I got the ecopia 850, reasons why I didn't get the Dueler is the ecopia 850 is a better road tyre. The Dueler may be a better off road tyre.

    If tyre pressure is too low, both the outer and inner tyre will wear, not just the outer edge.

    32psi sounds fine to me.

    • [Deactivated] on 18/09/2017 - 12:15

      Thanks. The Bob Jane guy was saying that with Yokohama tyres, I could easily get 70,000 Km's. Currently I am getting around 35-40000 kms with my Bridgestone Dueler's. Wonder if the Ecopia is any better.

      • JimB on 18/09/2017 - 12:18

        I would expect 70k out of an SUV tyre, including Bridgestone.

        Wearing only the outer side of the tyre is a wheel alignment issue, not an under inflation issue.

        • [Deactivated] on 18/09/2017 - 14:42

          I will post a picture of the tyres shortly. I think that will clarify the wearing issue.

    • Euphemistic on 18/09/2017 - 12:42
      -1

      32 sounds pretty low for a low(ish) profile tyre) under a heavy vehicle. I'd be putting in at least 36, more like 38.

      • JimB on 18/09/2017 - 13:49

        245/55 isn't lowish profile.

        245/55 has a higher sidewall than 205/65.

        FYI, it wasn't me who down voted you.

        • Euphemistic on 18/09/2017 - 14:03

          Wonder if the down vote was for profile or pressure? I stand by the pressure.

          Given they will be the biggest stock rims for that car it would make the tyre low-ish profile. Wasn't be that long ago when they were stock with a 70 series tyres - the orginal model, or 2nd generation had 65 series. Maybe current cars have 55 series is more common making it a mid-range profile. I'm a bit out of touch having been in an SUV for a while.

          As for the sidewall height difference between 245/55 and 206/65, you are talking about 1mm but a much narrower tyre.

  • grabngo on 18/09/2017 - 12:27

    depends on whether u doing most highway driving.
    $960 is what u in for,so be it.
    I think u could easily get 60k on the tyres if u rotate them regularly.

  • Cheap Charlie on 18/09/2017 - 12:53

    Duelers are common as OEM fitment on many new vehicles and do tend to wear quickly.

    Do you have a costco near by?
    Although this is the exact tyre you do not want, they may have keenly priced alternatives?
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/324824

    Also, Costco have a $100 off 4x Bridgestones coupon valid till Oct 1st
    http://www.costco.com.au/coupons/c20170917.shtml

    • [Deactivated] on 18/09/2017 - 14:41

      Thanks, just went to Costco and checked out the prices. Buy 3 get one free will be available around Christmas, I guess I will wait for that deal.

  • TheBilly on 18/09/2017 - 13:09
    +1

    So generally speaking uneven tyre wear is predominantly due to issues such as alignment and balancing whether or not 32 psi causes uneven wear I cannot say, but uneven wear on the sides (scrubbing) has traditionally been due to alignment/castor/camber issues and not necessarily tyre pressure.. I can't speak for your tyres but driving a big 4x4 the tyres are very expensive to replace - $300 to $400 each - So I make it a habit that every 10,000km I rotate the tyres (front to back and back to front), if I am noticing uneven tyre wear I get an alignment/balance done straight away - every month I check my tyre pressures and ensure they are sitting at 40 psi.

  • Cheapo Moose on 18/09/2017 - 13:10

    Inflate tyres as per manufacturer's recommendations.

    Don't listen to some blow-hard who suggests otherwise.

    As someone else has mentioned, under-inflation will generally increase wear on the inside and outside of the tyre. Over-inflation will generally increase wear down the middle of the tyre.

    Imagine over-inflation "bulging" in the middle and under-inflationg "sinking" in the middle. Middle ground (correct pressure) means flat.

    Increased wear on just the outside or inside sounds like a camber issue or wheel alignment.

    • [Deactivated] on 18/09/2017 - 14:40

      Inflate tyres as per manufacturer's recommendations.

      That's what I have been doing. However, the tyre shops (I have talked to Costco as well) are recommending 38 psi considering the Kluger is a heavy car.

      • Euphemistic on 18/09/2017 - 15:43

        manufacturer might be recommending a softer tyre to keep the ride nice and plush. Upping the pressure will make the ride a bit firmer, but you might not even notice the difference. It will help with tyre wear, but your driving style might cancel out any possible benefits.

        • [Deactivated] on 18/09/2017 - 15:46

          Driving style is very conservative as my wife is driving the car. Mostly school run and driving to kids activities.

      • garffi on 18/09/2017 - 20:01

        What you can do is try the chalk test. This website explains it pretty well. You draw a line across your tyre with a chalk then drive the car a few metres. Have a look at how the chalk wears off on the tyre.
        Chalk worn out in the centre = over-inflated —> decrease tyre pressure
        Chalk worn out on the outer edges = under-inflated —> increase tyre pressure

        • Euphemistic on 18/09/2017 - 20:55
          +3

          Chalk worn off one side, get a wheel alignment.

  • [Deactivated] on 19/09/2017 - 01:39

    as my wife is driving the car.

    I put money on it that she is unknowingly dry steering with all the drop offs/pick ups/parking etc. See it all the time. Too easy to do with power steering. This kills your front tyres.

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