Here's an article for more information. Here's a video by Apple that showcases the iPhone X
Expected prices
iPhone 8: $1079 for 64GB
iPhone 8 Plus: $1229 for 64GB
iPhone X price: $1579 for 64GB
Thoughts on The New iPhone (iPhone 8/8 Plus/X)?
BlazinPast on 13/09/2017 - 06:14
Last edited 14/09/2017 - 03:08
Last edited 14/09/2017 - 03:08
Poll Options
- 24Buying the iPhone 8
- 19Buying the iPhone 8 Plus
- 187Buying the iPhone X
- 124Was planning on upgrading, not anymore
- 686Was never going to buy one
Comments
The real difference between the phones is widgets really, but for the note series it's the S-pen.
I personally don't like the Samsungs, i have an iPhone for work and a Sony for my personal phone.
I might be upgrading to either the RED hydrogen one, Pixel 2 which is getting announced on OCT 12th, or the LGV30.
If you guys think the X is expensive, take a look at the RED Hydrogen one, it's over 2k AUD direct currency conversion without including tax, so on top of australian tax, i'm going to guess 2.5k for the RED's Hydrogen one phone.
If you're considering any RED products, then you aren't really worried about the price then now are you.
I have been an iPhone user for a few years now, but stopped with my 6s+. Now it even looks the same as the iPhone 8s+.
Personally I will be moving to Android next.
Merged from iPhone X - Would You Buy It?
The iPhone X and iPhone 8 were announced today with the usual fanfare and hyperbole.
Apple have created a phone that is almost entirely screen (iPhone X) and included dust and water resistance as well as wireless charging.The iPhone X starts at just over $1500, and is around $1800 for the 256gb model.
Personally, spending more than $500 on a phone is pretty over the top. Especially when you're likely to use it for taking photos, sending messages, browsing 95% of the time.
What do you think? Would you buy it?
very difficult question to answer….
I'm surprised they pull off another courage move on the fingerprint scanner.
no, I have bought into the Android eco system. I like how it does certain things and I find IOS awkward when I use my iPad Pro.
You bought an iPad Pro? LOL
nah, work supplied the iPad, phone is Android.
Who do you work for? And are they hiring?
No.
Glass! It will break easily.
Bad idea to make it from such a fragile material.
The main thing that I don't get is that next to nothing about the current iPhone range is a product of Apple innovation..
The original iPhone was a massive step up in comparison to what was on offer at the time… Since then not an awful lot has happened..
Nowadays its just a game of Apple copying innovations in androids, marketing it better, then charging a bomb for it. Example one, facial recognition, example two, mobile payments, example three, waterproofing the phone, example three, two lenses for the camera, example four, wireless charging.. the list goes on..
The iPhone 6,6s,7 and 8 are literally identical looking phones with very similar features. But somehow they continue to market and sell people a phone that literally dies in the ass after 24-36 months of use.
The only major thing I can think of that apple has done that others haven't is get rid of the headphone jack. ##~insert slow clapping~##
I'd honestly bet money on the fact that the next iPhone will have a curved screen, then they might put the finger scanner on the back, I don't know but I seriously don't understand the mentality behind people that upgrade from an iPhone 6/6S/7 to an 8…
If Apple was legitimately innovative like they used to be (in comparison to what is in the market) then by all means their over-hyped presentations and $1579 base-price phone would be something to look forward too..
When you use a phone all day every day it's going to take some abuse. If you worked out the average survival rate of iPhones, the average resale value, then you could probably figure out what it really costs per year to buy an iPhone and then sell it three years later, probably like $350 a year or something. It's not all that much in the grand scheme of things. Just make sure your home/contents insurance covers it for theft and breakage.
At that price? No. I rather buy a Galaxy Note 8.
It is a lovely looking phone though…
It's annoying that the pricing is still going by old the aud/usd currency back around 2015. Where it dropped to something like 0.68 and now alot stronger but they haven't adjusted it back
how do you unlock the screen when its sitting on a desk. My phone (sony) I just touch the side and the fingerprint unlocks it.
The old iphone you would click the home button.
How does the face unlock work if the phone is sitting on the side of a desk?Depends on the range/angle of the sensors. If it's like the S8, you need to point it towards your face like you're taking a selfie for it work well. It looks pretty awkward.
man, that would be a pain for me.
Wow wireless charging, fast charge and face recognition!! that's unheard of. That is SO COOL!! NOT
oh wait… Samsung s8 already has all those functions, even my note 3 already back in 2013 already had wireless charging
The LG G6+ has all these too for less than the S8.
Oh is it? Thank you, proves my point.
But!!! its not face recognition its (FACE ID) thats something Apple pioneered and its a innovation just like the touch screen phone (iphone) and the MP3 player (ipod) …and the tablet (ipad) and they are developing the 1st electric car (Icart) atm. how dare you challenge their innovation. steve jobs is not a sociopaths but a God.
@Creamsoda: Not really just going by the comments iFans make, urs was surely /s, but all the others? ;)
Photo unlock?
Self combustion?
Yep, two great features…
Yes Yoyoma… Samsung is a failure.
Apple is so much more stable & innovative and you can just tell that by all the cool people who have one.
All the dags are the ones with Android right?Apple market cap $815B
Samsung market cap $255BIf company value is the measure, then Samsung is a relative failure
I wonder how you would've felt in the 90's when Microsoft was leading Apple by a much larger percentage in PC sales.
Alas - Samsung is faring better than it did and is gaining but you are correct that it is behind by Apple by some way - failure I wouldn't say however.
As for the Android ecosystem - this has a marketshare of between 80-90% (and conservative estimates @ 66%) over iOS. Does that mean that iOS is a failure? I don't think so.My point stands - if you have an Apple you are thereby either affluent enough to afford one and therefore "cool" or "progressive", whilst the plebs are left with Android as they are generally cheaper. This seems to be a majority of the view of Apple supporters I speak with - sad.
I purchase phones for my org - I give the Apple's to those who are elderly or technology challenged. I give the Androids to those who push the boundaries.
Sad how marketing has a such a marked impact on how we judge & influence others.
PS. I had an S7 and I was not a fan - dropped it a couple of months ago & it's a brick so I'm not a fanboy of any product. I have two older iPhones doing not much other than sitting in desks.
@khomeini: I hated Apple in the 90s because Microsoft was the most broadly compatible and therefor, better. Devices that require third party support are one area where it's just 'easier' to back the winner.
iOS and Android are currently both in a position where they have widespread support, so from that perspective as an everyday person both are fine.
For OS X the fact that it's still well in the minority is less of an issue these days, as it at least has reasonable app support and more and more the platform doesn't matter.
People buying Android devices seem to be using them a lot less (or replacing them more often). Stats for the last 30 days from a site in AU I have access to the data for:
Mobile (sessions):
iOS: 961,489
Android: 398,908
Windows Phone: 1,337 (yes really)Mobile Sales by revenue (figures I won't disclose but they're in millions of dollars for the last 30 days)
iOS: 74.75%
Android: 25.19%
Windows Phone: 0%All Devices (sessions - millions of sessions sampled, more than a million distinct users):
iOS: 50.36%
Windows: 20.67%
Android: 18.34%
Mac: 9.99%
Linux: 0.29%
Chrome OS: 0.24%
Windows Phone 0.06%I think the iPad is pretty popular based on that….
Now keep in mind that from my understanding iOS is higher in usage in Australia than globally, so this might not hold true. Android is substantially more popular in the US due to AT&T being the only iPhone carrier for years.
So I dunno, people quote vague global sales figures, but I can see data direct out of GA for some of the busiest sites in the country and the point to iOS being the overwhelming leader.
People aren't buying Android devices because they are cheap (there are plenty of expensive Android phones that are toe to toe with the iPhone). But if you want a cheap phone that you only use to make phone calls and not to browse the web / shop online, you are buying an Android phone most certainly.
Disclaimer: My stats don't show people making calls / usage in games / apps etc etc. They relate to people using devices to buy or research buying products within Australia (these shops don't sell internationally) and that is a selective data set. (It excludes most younger children and a portion of people who don't trust online shopping, people with a work phone who use their personal phone for shopping etc.)
My toothbrush had wireless charging in the 90s, sheesh.
Not a big deal that apple decided to add it, but the positive to take from it is that the industry now appears to have largely settled on the one standard, which is great for everyone, including Android phone owners.
I'm sure it's fine in person, but seeing all the hands-on videos, all of sudden the black bezels seem rather large to me. I'm sure they're not any larger than the sides of the current phones, but in that all screen format they seem to stand out more to me .. The Galaxy s8 has the curved edge screen so at least the side bezels on that seem very thin. On the iPhone it's more like a big black frame around the screen.
eg:
https://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/iph…Samsung have large bezels top & bottom
Ozbargain is a bad place to ask about iPhone because a true ozbargainer can never afford one, including me hahahha (unless it's a previous model or is on Super discount, but even then we still have to sell either kidney)
How wrong you are. A true OzBargainer can afford one. Think about why that is.
They've finally decided to play catch up with OLED, Qi charging, fast charging, and small bezel.
I don't like the bar where the speaker and camera is. It blocks part of the screen. They should have extended it slightly and used up the full width for that black bar. App makers are now going to have to develop for this new display.
Also what happened to 7S and 9?
The 8 to me feels like a 7S and not an 8. It looks identical to the 7. A new model normally makes more significant changes.
Yes it's definitely more a 7S than an 8 as far as features go. But I think they're doing version number inflation, and they wanted an "10" in there somewhere for the 10th anniversary, so skipping 9 was okay (like Microsoft did a few years back with Windows), but skipping 8 as well would be too much. Hence for marketing reasons it had to be named 8 rather than the 7s.
They painted themselves into that corner. If they're going to do one new gen model every 2 years, then 10 years doesn't add up to a 10.
Remember, they skipped the iPhone 2 also. They didn't do a 1S either.
I wonder if next year's model will be 8S, 9, XS or 11?
I just want a small phone with big phone features :(
Get the 8.
I just want a phone which tastes like a phone.
Im glad apple has chosen to adopt an existing wireless charging standard instead of making its own proprietary standard. Hopefully, this will light a fire under the Android OEM manufacturers to start including QI charging in them again.
AFAIC, the Nexus 5 did it perfectly. The QI charging pad in between magnets under the back cover, so you can just roughly drop your phone on a magnetic wireless charger and it self aligns. I'd really like to see more of that.
Looks like iphoneX wil be a complete flop, facial recognition already given its great presentation, maybe finger scanning was still the best option after all.
As a iPhone 7plus user I don't see any point for a upgrade, and they call them selfs innovative? I would expect much more for almost $2000 price tag, just round it off. well it will be $2000 soon enough giving it this over saturated pricing, not to speak, oh wait it's not even 512Gb and there's another price leap.
Ppl still wait in line few day to buy it. Smh
Ugh flagships, I think the mobile phone industry has jumped the shark in terms of generating new excitement for these phones.
It's now turning into who can cram more in at a lesser price point. Telstra even announced that phone sales are slowing down considerably.
What's crazy for me is that they didn't focus on anything actually useful. No mention of the camera at all and improvements to quality.
Main things are wireless charging (old), edge to edge display (dunno how that works, as I still see a black bar around the outside) and a new way to unlock your phone. Woopy do. As if the most compelling reason to buy it is so you can unlock it in a new way. Notwithstanding that when the guy tried to unlock it on stage, it failed twice during a presentation that they would have rehearsed 1000 times.
I bailed from apple a few years ago. Currently have the S8 on Optus with 10gb. $68 p/m. Imagine what the x will be on a plan like that. $110p/m? Lol
Probably $199 p/m for telstra equivalent
Companies like Samsung make a lot of the components for the iPhone so I don't know why people expect the iPhone to be groundbreaking. Unless Apple start manufacturing everything themselves from the ground up then they will be incorporating existing technology.
it would be a start if Apple didn't pretend like they came up with something brilliantly innovative and charge an arm and a leg for it.
I think that the X is 3 years too late. When I first saw the 6plus I was like , really? They needed to make the top and bottom bezzels that thick on an already massive phone ? It just looked like a joke and we were stuck with it for 3 years. I'd prefer a smaller edge to edge phone. Say 5" or so. Still think the iPhone 5 was the best form factor and if we could have all screen it would be awsome.
I think I'll stick with my Xiaomi Mi 5 :)
Can buy 6 of them for the cost of the 256GB iPhone X!
Has plenty of nice features such as Snapdragon 820, NFC, decent camera, fingerprint reader, 3GB RAM, 64GB storage, big battery ect..
i was thinking the same thing…. Could even consider getting the Mi Mix 2?
My argument is always: Amortised, the iPhone is way cheaper than other phones. My dad is still using my 2012 iPhone 5, and my iPhone 6 is still very good. I’ll buy the X, and the resale value of 6 is still pretty high, or I might just hand it over to my dad.
You don’t see a lot of people using 2012 Android phones, right? And if you do, they probably hate their phones very much.
I've still got a iPhone 3G as a work phone and I use a 4s as an iPod. They both still work well - although slowly in comparison to modern tech.
My wife has my old 2012 Android nexus, and yes she hates it very much :-) Apple devices do seem to have longer useful lifespans than Android devices, in part because they get OS updates for so long whereas Android definitely has an update problem. But Apple devices are typically twice the price, so it really needs to last twice as long, or even longer to compensate for being old tech in the last half of its lifespan.
I wouldn't say it's twice the price… Maybe the premium is 20% to 30%. Samsung Note 8 which is kinda equivalent to iPhone X is $1,499, and iPhone X 64 GB (same capacity) is $1,579. Google Pixel ($1,079) is comparable to iPhone 8 ($ 1,079).
But of course I picked the Android phones with the least price discrepancy. I would say it is generally max 30% difference for other phones, but you can't compare a lower tiered products with the latest Apple products – you should compare them to like iPhone SE.
Yup, I had an Galaxy S4 and a iPhone 4. Overall the s4 was a way better phone until it couldn't power on anymore while my iPhone 4 is still solid. But the iPhone 4 is a pain in a ass to use…2 second delay when type in chrome. Now anyways most apps are unsupported on the iPhone 4 as it is still on iOS 7.1.2. The Samsung would be a much better phone in the long term if it doesnt die.
My wife is on my old Samsung S5 and she loves it! :D
I dont mean to be rude, but I dont understand something. Why pay 1500+ for a phone?? Why not just 300-500 and spend the rest on a laptop or something like that? What does a 1500-2000 dollar phone do that a 300-500 dollar one cannot? It seems people from my generation (millennials) constantly buy everything new like this, then complain about having no money….
Agree. Most people on Ozbargain have the same thoughts. Your statement (or similar) has been mentioned many times but it doesn't seem to get through. People will always like shiny new things. It is how we are wired. Be frugal where you can; keep hustling and let them spend their money on an $1600 phone rather than saving for a home deposit. They will eventually see the light. Eventually…
Yes exactly right! All my friends ask "how have you saved money so well, the govt screws us!!". Yet, at the same time, they throw their money at stuff like this, buy $30 or more of takeaway everyday+ coffees etc etc….They are very inefficient, and get "caught in the hype". I've been using a Galaxy S3 for a long time, and people ask "wow how do you still use it"…and I think, well it calls people, it uses chrome and apps perfectly fine and it calls and texts people perfectly fine. Battery life is a few days and the screen is still awesome…I would rather spend $2000 on PC's (which I have, built 2 systems, 1 for myself and 1 for my brother) with the money I would of spent on a single phone for a single year…
A lot of people use their phones way more than their laptop. It makes sense to spend more money on the things you use more.
But I agree with you that millennials are very bad at financial management. I myself are going to research the best phone plan and try to spend as little as possible.
I get that, however spending $1000 extra on a phone is absurd. $700? Ok, fair. But thats where I draw the line. If a $700 phone is not "good enough" for some people, then they have a problem…
While on the surface it might seem like the no brainer option to get say a Xiaomi Mi 6 ($600) vs a iPhone X ($1500), the psychology of having or needing the best is very much real.
Is the iPhone X 'worth' $900 more than the Mi 6? No way. But people are going to pay the difference if the iPhone X is 'better', it doesn't matter how much better, even if its just a fraction better. The iPhone X camera is probably only a bit better than the Xiaomi Mi 6 but after viewing comparison tests and reviews on youtube, if you have the money to pay for it, as literally everyone in Australia does (even if you're on the dole), people will just get the iPhone X.
And I think for most people, that peace of mind factor to get the iPhone shouldn't be underestimated.
Yes, thats my point. They are paying so much for no real gain. Highly inefficient. I dont believe it is about the "best" in egeneral. It is more like a piece of jewellery, to show off that you have it. e.g even if a Xiaomi phone cost the same, had better performance, even looked better, more people would still buy the iphone. Just to post to instagram and facebook to show off. It is a fashion accessory, nothing more.
Absolutely - its also a prestige thing.
And Apple are going to keep lifting their prices every year as sales increases.
But it has to be said, for most people the phone is THE MOST used device. I'd bet if this thing was double the current prices people would still pay it.
You're asking the wrong website.
OzBargain is predominantly lower to middle class people looking for small ways to save money.
The iPhone X is meant for upper-middle to upper class people (those earning $150K+/year). (There are plenty of other models for people on lower wages.)
For someone earning $180K+/year, it is easy to get iPhone X for 55% off retail (salary sacrifice plus GST refund).
~$600 for a phone for someone earning $180K/year is nothing.
I'm not talking about upper class people though. I'm talking about students who barely scrape by as is, forking out 1k or so for the new iPhone. Obviously for people earning 180k it's nothing, that's not who I'm asking.
The answer to that is simple.
Why does anyone buy something they cannot afford?
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The same reason people buy clothes/cars/houses/meals that they cannot afford.
iphone is trying to make people think of a phone as a fashion. you might as well ask the question why people spend ridiculous amount of money for designer expensive fashion. for those with lot of money, buying new expensive phone or fashion is one way to spend the money and there is nothing wrong with that. after all, money is no use if you can't use it. for those with limited amount of money, that i don't understand why they would sacrifice.
Perfectly happy with 5s does all job
Absolutely no need fr new overpriced phone.
The iphone is the reason why all other phones are so expensive these days. Can barely get a flagship phone for less than $700AUD these days. 5 years ago you had a massive choice at that price point. That said, the vast majority of people are suckers for "exclusivity" and "brand recognition" that Apple brings with it (even if the very same features have been in other phones for years).
Mvoed from a Nexus 6P to iPhone 7 plus, best decision I have made in a long time. I was an android user for nearly 10 years before the switch. I would buy this new iPhone but not enough money to upgrade each year.
Not a fair comparison. Nexus 6P was a dog.
I moved to S8+ and there is no comparison.
only reinforced my thought that Nexus 6P was a real dog
Super retina display! Omg. That's going to be… Wait 2436x1125. Oh right, so it's like a few other flagships and definitely doesnt beat the 4k screen other phones have used a few years ago.
Imagine buying a desktop with ultrabox technology, arctic storm thermo regulation, magnetron shielded super copper, bestest most greatest memory. Bleeding rainbows here reading the ad.
RED's Hydrogen one titanium smart phone is more expensive…. Direct currency conversion, the phone is just over 2k, so with Aussie tax, it will probably be around 2.5k AUD… I want to get it for the upgrade of camera sensor..
One I jailbroke I can't go back.. Probably will go android next
Owned multiple phones from Iphones 3s, 4s, Blackberries, HTC One 7, Nokia phablet (garbage), Lg G4, Huawei Mate 8 and samsung s8 (and various apple products such as tablets etc).
By far the best phone to own was the Lg G4 until the bootloop kicked in and ruined it all. The S8 is amazing, the Huawai was nothing special at all, and the HTC One 7 i actually still like to use as a daily working phone.
Iphones are great with a very basic limited IOS - but now that im android wont ever go back, and no with their stupid pricing.
I don't care what phone people have but .. when I see someone with an iPhone, my immediate reaction is to think they are of sub-par intelligence, extremely gullible or just too lazy to do the homework into what makes a good phone. Paying top dollar for outdated and heavily sand-boxed technology with non-standard attachments is just plain moronic. Don't get me started on the pathetic UI of these things either. Sure, a toddler can use it but maybe a grown adult wants more customisation in their user experience other than a screen of icons?! Feel free to downvote me all you like but it is a pretty common view these days. When a company spends all their money on marketing and lawyers instead of R&D, people with half a clue will see through their BS.
Not every 'grown adult' wants customisations. My reason for having the iPhone was because when I had a Samsung, there were way too many features I didn't even use which just slowed down the entire phone. Everyone has different needs hence everyone has a different phone. As both a UI and UX designer, I personally prefer simplicity over complexity (especially when I personally don't need it).
I don't want to waste my time tweaking bullshit. I don't even want to think about customisations TBH and them hogging my memory. I have owned both android and apple and both are pretty good and meant for different types of users.
Ditto for me too pjammies and StiffHindQuarters!
I think it's moronic for a grown adult to have to customize a phone that really should be doing the work for them.
There's nothing more frustrating than trying to perform a simple task on Android. Yes the technology of the Samsung Galaxy is top notch but you can't really use it without spending hours customizing it.So what can't you do on the "Samsung Galaxy" without spending hours customising it that you can do on an iPhone?
Lots of things but I'll give you one example. You can't zoom into photos fully on The Android Facebook app
Not sure what you consider fully zooming in to be, zooming in so one pixel in the photo takes up your whole screen? Ignoring that, that definitely isn't a problem with Android or any Galaxy phone but with the dev team for the Facebook Android app. I haven't ever used the official Facebook app and I'm not sure whether or not Galaxy phones or iPhones come with it preinstalled, but the app I use lets me zoom in just as much as I can zoom in on the mobile site. I would hardly consider downloading an app to be hours worth of customisation considering some phones don't come preinstalled with the Facebook app at all.
One of the reasons that people buy iPhones is that they have other devices within the iOS ecosystem. It makes things easier to manage if they all integrate and talk to each other without requiring separate chargers etc. Sometimes they are "forced".
Literally no point in getting the 64GB version, if you record any video in 4k60fps, bye bye storage.
64GB + iCloud photo library 200GB, slightly cheaper over 3 years (how long my phone replacement cycle is at the moment).
256GB iPhone = $250 (extra)
$4.50 * 12 * 3 = $162It would be fair to mention though that with HEVC used for recording videos in iOS 11, it won't be as bad as it could be.
For the price it better come with 4 U2 albums
iPhone X is the latest must-have investment vehicle for the budding Westpac Grad recruit!
I don't know why everyone expects the next iPhone to always be ground breaking. It's already proven that Apple isn't the type of company that comes up with 'new' innovative features. They leverage off existing technology and perfect it to create a solid working phone. IPhone isn't going to come out with a new tech 'holographic' type feature, they'll first do years of testing and research into user behaviour to make sure it's more functional/usable than a gimmick. Their approach to product development differs to that of Android. Seriously, there's no surprise?
To answer the poll, I would like to buy the iPhone X, but it is way out of my budget, so at that price-point I do find it well overpriced for a mobile phone.
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