I think there a cheaper version for just one user.
lot of people bag norton but still seems like cheap deal.
HN - Norton Internet Securities 2010 - 3 Users/1 Year $20
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It's going for this cheap because NIS 2011 is coming out soon.
That product is worse than useless, because it deludes people into thinking they have some form of viable protection.
The fact that Symantec charges and extorts recurring payments (for renewals) makes feel more much more secure and confident about using it than anything coming from Microsoft (for free). Yeah, ZX81 rulez!
Care to show something to backup your claim?
It works and it works well.
MSE rocks!
read the back of the box and it tells you what it does and doesnt
Both products are good, for free I'd use MSE and COMODO Defense + for HIPS to cover all grounds.
there are some free alternatives out there.
however for security i prefer something paid for.. and not related to microslut.
still.. thank you for the link to security essentials as I'd never heard of it.XCelR* AFAIK there are no 'lifetime' licences for most paid AV's
juicedpixels - MSSE is an AV. Norton 2010 is a security suite. Like or hate Norton, you're not comparing apples with apples. Different levels of protection.
Norton 10 is actually a very good product… they completely recoded it to be low on system resources, easy to install and non-intrusive.
It's nothing like the "bad old Norton" people remember and hate.
$20 is an absolute bargain for 3 licences. I paid $50 for my 3 licences.
You get a year's coverage, so the fact that NIS11 is coming out soon is largely immaterial.
I do agree. I Was not using Norton for years and after buying it really cheap (Thanks to norton 30 bucks rebate last month), I Realized that it is quite good and not resource hungry. It automatically scans, when the machine is ideal.
And secondly, it is a complete security solution with antivirus, firewall and anti malware unlike Microsoft, which is an antivirus only.
Try to avoid Norton products… They're mostly bloated and you can find cheaper/better/lighter alternatives out there, paid and/or not. In terms of detection they're mediocre, in terms of system resource usage, they're horrible. They just happen to have great brand recognition. Norton/Symantec are widely used in corporate environment not due to their capabilities, but due to good corporate rebates they can offer to the purchasing department. Good reviews of Norton tend to be found in PC Magazines, in which I find its neutrality highly doubted due to sponsors.
Microsoft Security Essentials is now officially legal to be used for Small Businesses I believe. If you prefer paid solution, I'd say go for NOD32 (I reckon it's the best balance of great detection and low system resource usage. It's also highly recommended in Wilders Security Forums).
Norton Antivirus is decent, but I won't classify it as good. System resource usage is ok, but this only applies to Norton Antivirus, not Norton Internet Security/360, etc. I wouldn't say McAfee is any better either (way too many false positives).
Just my 2 cents.
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You are wrong mate, I am frequent on the Wilders forum and there is nothing but praise for NIS 2011 and 2010. They use to be a resource hog but they are now no longer. Try it for yourself or check the performance reviews on av-comparatives.org. Scan speed according to AV-Comparatives puts Norton Internet Security infront of NOD32 and detection rate as well. Please do some more research before jumping on the Norton Hate Bandwagon…
I do agree with R3X. Hating Norton , based on previous experience is not justified. They are trying hard ( through campaigns and rebates) and selling cheap and no doubt its a damm good product.
Microsoft SEcurity Essentials, as I Said earlier is an antivirus only and this is a complete solution.
Compare apples with apples mate.Nice to see another Wilders frequent.
I work as system technician for too many years now. I've followed Norton products since DOS era.
I do install and test AVs. I don't only do my research, I work with Antiviruses everyday (NOD32, Norton, McAfee, Bit Defender, Trend Micro, CA, etc.), and I stand corrected, I still find NOD32 having the better balance of proactive detection/system resource usage (with AVIRA paid version coming close, but not quite there yet).
Even if others have better detection rate, they hold little credibility if they still have too many false positives. IMHO, the "nothing but praise" for newer Norton Antivirus (NAV, not NIS) are also due to the contrast between the previous resource-taxing versions and current decent one.I cross-reference independent tests and reviews (where they do them in controlled environment) with my own work experience (what people do with their computers "in the wild", how internet security softwares hinder people's productivity by blocking other apps, with Aussie computer users, etc.).
You obviously have never tested NAV with NIS and 360 side by side everyday, have you? The difference is huge.
Never said Norton Antivirus is crap. I even said it's decent.
I'm not a Norton hater. I'm a realist.
I also said there are "cheaper/better/lighter alternatives", not "cheaper, better, lighter alternatives". Before telling me that I'm wrong, a Norton hater, and to do some more research, perhaps you should learn how to read comments properly first before making premature assumptions and accusing people, mates. You're just chucking a misdirected knee-jerk reaction of stereotype Norton fanboys (whilst I'm not even a hater). Having said this, R3XNebular, based on your previous comments on other threads, you seem to enjoy trolling (or you just like to argue for the sake of it).And let's not go to the "compare apples with apples, because this is a 'complete solution'" argument. These so called "internet security solutions" are gimmicks to increase price by bundling arguably half-arsed programs (firewall, kid-safe surfing, windows optimiser, etc.). More often than not they create more problems and confusion to end users. Besides, ESET Smart Security caters for that product range as well.
If you're gonna answer "I don't have that problem with people in my environment, or all you gotta do is just disable it, change the settings to suit you, etc.", you obviously lack experience with people, as there's actually A LOT of people who are not as computer-literate than most OzBargainers.
Feel free to claim NAV/NIS is "simply better" than NOD32/ESS any day in Wilders, Whirlpool, Reddit, Slashdot, Digg (if you still go there) or whichever. I'd like to see the responses generated.
"You obviously have never tested NAV with NIS and 360 side by side everyday, have you? The difference is huge."
Yes I have, there is no significant performance degration. You make it as if NAV acts like Norton 2005 when it doesn't
"Never said Norton Antivirus is crap. I even said it’s decent."
ohhhh really, you actually said "in terms of system resource usage, they’re horrible" and you said it's decent where?"I cross-reference independent tests and reviews (where they do them in controlled environment) with my own work experience (what people do with their computers “in the wild”, how internet security softwares hinder people’s productivity by blocking other apps, with Aussie computer users, etc.)."
Great, wheres the report that I can view it at? This statement you have made is based on "what you feel" and not on facts. View AV-Comparatives for performance tests.I agree their are cheapper/better/lighter alternatives as I stated in other posts below (Avast, Comodo Defense+, DefenseWall, Online Armor) but this is what you said
"In terms of detection they’re mediocre" which is incorrect, lastest AV-comparatives shows Symantec ahead on on-demand detection."And let’s not go to the “compare apples with apples, because this is a ‘complete solution’” argument. These so called “internet security solutions” are gimmicks to increase price by bundling arguably half-arsed programs (firewall, kid-safe surfing, windows optimiser, etc.). More often than not they create more problems and confusion to end users. Besides, ESET Smart Security caters for that product range as well."
There is no complete solution, where did I state that? No AV or Security Suite offers 100% solid protection and you should know that. $20 for 3 licenses is pretty good IMO for people who don't have the time to invest in researching for FREE Alternatives… sorry but not every Joe frequents wilders like us.
"Feel free to claim NAV/NIS is “simply better” than NOD32/ESS any day in Wilders, Whirlpool, Reddit, Slashdot, Digg (if you still go there) or whichever. I’d like to see the responses generated."
I never claimed NAV/NIS to be simply better than NOD32/ESS. Detection rates are always changing but it annoys me that people just go oh "its a resource hog" without using it just like you have.
I work for a large private firm for 10 years now, I manage their network security (Just had to say this cause you were comparing your E-Penis in relation to the oh I've been around since the DOS Days).
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=111264&page=…
I prefer Kaspersky however I've used Avast! for the past 3~4 years and had no problems with it.
Sandboxie takes care of all the nasty stuff for me.
Yep Sandboxie is great, probably all you need lol
I dont trust you.
And i probably never will
Never trust a man who says, "Trust Me." - John Varley
Though i know what you said is quite true - minus the part where is misses virus's and malware, I still think the neg vote justifies it. It is really a bargain. If you bought this at any other random store, it could still be $50+
Norton is my Virus protection of choice. I have tried others, but had repeated malware infections, since re-installing Norton, nothing!
As for slowing your system down, unless your running a 600Mhz machine, you won't notice it is even installed.
Given you'll pay $20 for a single license of this on ebay, this is indeed a bargain.
And yes, it's free to upgrade it to the 2011 versions.
Please dont use it you might hurt yourself
You don't know much then.
no trust and not a valid reason
Incorrect, get your facts straight, NIS 2010/2011 are great products. Check out the wilders forum or even AV-Comparatives.org check the performance reviews and detection rates.
Yes I know they use to suck and would slow down your PC but not anymore!
2011 is already out, but you get a free upgrade to 2011 with 2010. Just install the 2010, then right click on the Norton taskbar icon and check for new version. It will download and install NIS 2011 for you.
So for $20 it is a good deal.
People, please educate yourselves with information where there are proper testing methodologies in regards to antivirus efficiency.
a short google turns up this: http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/av…
norton fan boys are as annoying as apple ones… why pay for a bloated software when you can get a better AV software for free?
Norton is no longer bloated like it used to be:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/blog/362/entry-3324-is-norton-st…However in terms of AV detection and efficiency, Avira (free), Avast (free) and Norton (paid) all get good results, so it's really a matter of whether you want to get extra features and pay to get norton or just the bare essentials — Avast or Avira free.
I chose Avast because it was easy to use, light on resources and (IMO) the least obstrusive.
It is by no means the best — I still have to rely on HijackThis and MalwareBytes occasionally to get rid of some infections but face it — even with Norton or any other commercial AV you will eventually come across viruses that don't appear in it's database.
Going to take some time to clear up the bad name they have made in the past. I read somewhere where they secretly installed some software in co-operation with the FBI or some anti-terrorism unit, and another AV company helped unveil that the software was linked to norton, funnily enough all the posts about it were deleted on the norton help forums.
The smart guy who negged my post.
Google "pifts.exe" for a recent cover up - conspiracies and such.
Most pifts.exe articles have been wiped off the net.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus#FBI_cooperatio…
Take a look, I'm not lying. I ain't buying this, I like my privacy.
Maybe Norton wants to expand their database!
"even with Norton or any other commercial AV you will eventually come across viruses that don’t appear in it’s database."
this is the crucial part… google for virus signature reaction time rankings and you would understand.
I am very familiar with symantec corporate AVs and their rate of definition releases.. serious dollars are paid for the support and it's nothing to rave about.
How is Norton bloated? It use to be bloated but not for NIS 2010/2011. The link you sent me just proves that Norton has a good detection rate and that is ranked among all the other good AV's Avira, ESET, Avast as a good detection rate. Refer to the scanning speeds also showing NIS doing very well and I think you should check the performance tests on the website.
See Below
http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/performan…
take note that you are comparing a free vs a paid product, at the same time, the paid product is not performing as well as a free product. regardless whether it's bloated or not.
it's NOT a good bargain to be paying for an AV software.
norton fanbois can neg my comments all they want, but the fact remains:
A free AV product actually works better than the current Norton AV.If you are paying for it, then you have too much money to burn.
Take note that you are comparing an Internet Security Suite to a standalone AV. The paid products are performing just as well as a free product for detection rates, speeds and performance.
However I agree with you, why purchase an AV when there are free and great alternatives such as MSE or Avast coupled with Comodo Defense for HIPS and Firewall.
Just next time don't make claims that and software is bloated until you have tried it out because it is not "BLOATED" because the performance tests and reviews says differently.
Norton has rated quite well for the last two years. For $20/year/3PCs, it's a good deal.
Keep in mind this is not available at all HNs.
My local franchise has this "marked down" from $99.95 to $50, not $20 for the 3User variety.PC's dont need antivirus protection.
Car insurance is a scam too eh.
i paid twice as much at officeworks for a single years license, as i needed immediate short term protection, but i have no complaints and im open to using norton again, for the average internet user who isnt downloading a lot of torrents etc, this is a good deal
If any thing is slowing down your PC then its Norton, Not recommended at all
Dude, you PC is slow because you are running a 566Mhz Celeron processor, coupled with a 4.5" floppy drive and 16mb of SD RAM.
For your kind info, it was a brand new emachine em350 (1.6Ghz Atom, 1Gb Ram) which was preloaded with Norton and was running awfully slow even in browsing, After the removal of Norton there was huge difference in the performance, I installed Avira after that and the machine was perfectly fine.
not a valid reason
Incorrect, get your facts straight, NIS 2010/2011 are great products. Check out the wilders forum or even AV-Comparatives.org check the performance reviews and detection rates.
Yes I know they use to suck and would slow down your PC but not anymore!
and it is not a valid reason as above has stated
well my friend forums are for those who haven't tested it by themselves, thats my personal experience with Norton lately, it tremendously slowed down my netbook and after the removal it was running like a swift horse :)
i think its a great deal as you could only prob get OEM software for this price, this is the retail edition =D
what is the difference b/w OEM and retail edition?
Customer Service wont provide support for an OEM.
License cant be transferred to another machine.
Limited number of re-installation on the same machine or none(Some products).
also it is illegal to buy OEM edition unless you buy it as part of a computer package off some computer retailer. so if you are installing on home pc, using OEM edition is illegal. so that makes this deal even sweeeter! =D
I really don't see the difference between a free version like avast or avg compared to these paid versions.
It's a lost cause, there are people who always think that free products are not as good as products that they actually have to pay for.
And we are not even talking about windows vs linux where usability/support differs a lot, the free and commercial AVs are so similiar in GUI and platforms… it's almost a joke to be paying for it for personal use.
LOL you can use the serial and download 2011
Great deal!!
Also FYI, you get a free upgrade to 2011 from the norton website i believe
How do you go about getting the free upgrade to 2011? What's the URL?
In all my years in IT and support at work and helping out my friends, I always found Norton products to be bloated and a killer on system resources. They are at times hard to completely uninstall and are persistent. I would rather use AVG a free product or any other paid virus protection software but NOT Norton's.
Probably NIS 2008 and backwards, they were the biggest resource hogs. NIS2010/2011 have worked beautifully on my computers. Performance reviews also agree with this.
agree since 2009 has beenexcellent and also very easy to uninstall
Say it's valid till 4/10/10 so is it still valid on Monday?
Did any one still see stock of this available?Oxley Qld had a bunch of these yesterday (Sunday) afternoon.
Even saw a couple of boxes with 5 user-license on the same discount shelf so you could probably push them to give you one of those at the same price.
I thought about getting this but in the end resisted/overcame my "bargain addiction reflex" given the free options available.
I've been a happy AVG user for years - but having seen the reviews quoted above I think I'll change to AVAST. AVG has protected me well - but I have had a few false positives - which were quite distracting at the time. So thanks for the comparative review links.
I'd ignore any comments from those who say Norton is bloated or slows down your system - obviously just trolling. This information was true for NAV 8 which was an awful product - but Symantec fixed this bloat as of NAV 2009. Better to ignore such postings completely rather than giving oxygen to the trollers.
Personally I use:
Router firewall + Windows firewall + Microsoft Security essentials..
This combination serves me well.I believe someone mentioned that Microsoft security essentials was antivirus only. I don't believe this is totally correct.. as it can also detects malware.
This isn't valid in WA, but I hussled them down $60 for 2011 version (RRP $99)
I got it for $20 from HN City West in Perth. Sales guy took a while to verify on his system but i had print out from the website.
Apparently you can upgrade it to 2011 for free.
Can you find the cheaper version for one user? Is it for a lifetime or one year only?