Why Do People Do Burnouts and Modify Their Cars to Be Louder?

FutureTech on 22/06/2017 - 22:08
Last edited 22/06/2017 - 22:49 by 1 other user

I can't make sense of some of the things that people do with their cars.

1.Burnouts

Pros

None

Cons

Dangerous
Accelerated tire wear-need to change tires more often-costs more money
Sitting in a spinning car makes you sick

2.Modify the exhaust of cars so that they are unbearably loud

Most cars are designed to be as quiet as possible which makes sense. Why would people want their day to day car to be noisy? Wouldn't it drive the driver mad as well if you have to suffer from the noise everytime you're behind the wheel?

Can anyone help me understand behaviours like these?

Automotive

Comments

  • poboy on 22/06/2017 - 22:24
    +89

    Because they get much joy out of these things.

    • Scrooge McDuck on 23/06/2017 - 10:47
      +100

      and it gets the bishes wet!!

      Burnouts are one of the bogans' mating rituals.

    • meumax on 23/06/2017 - 16:20
      +19

      Because they find it fun.

      But I think the underlying question the OP wants answered by these people is how they justify acting so selfishly on public roads. Their increase in enjoyment comes at the expense of the OP (and the rest of us) who are forced to endurr the loud noise and increased risk of harm from out of control car.

      • ls123 on 25/06/2017 - 10:22
        +1

        A very valid point but you could turn it around and ask why others aren't able to also appreciate the joy of hearing a beautiful, free revving engine note. It's a matter of perspective, if you thoroughly enjoy something and you dedicate time, energy and a LOT of money to it, it becomes harder to understand why others wouldn't also appreciate it. Adding to it is the fact that there are huge communities and markets for car modifications, not to mention that generally, the more expensive the car, the louder the exhaust (or even just potential for the exhaust due to a larger engine) will be.

        • meumax on 25/06/2017 - 16:16
          +11

          I don't think it's nice to force people to enjoy your hobbies if they don't like them.

          I'm all for car enthusiasts to enjoy themselves at the track, but please don't assume everyone on public roads appreciates your sound.

          I was a bit more laid back about such things until I had kids. Trust me, the expletives that cross my mind if some rev head wakes up my sleeping baby…

        • Dsquall on 26/06/2017 - 14:30

          If you're driving around in an Aston DB10 or even one of the AMGs, sure revving and racing is probably quite fun cause you're in a performance vehicle.

          What these people do is grab a shitbox car and get it to make stupidly loud noises to call attention to themselves, it's the attention they find fun, not some sort of pride in their engine performance. It's the same appeal as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDafMzo4HO8 , clearly a product designed for kids or the mentally crippled. It's not so much compensation as it is trying to scream out at the top of your lungs "HEY GUYS, HEY GUYS, LOOK AT ME, AREN'T I A (profanity) SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE?!".

        • Serapis on 27/06/2017 - 20:18

          @Dsquall: OMG i absolutely HATE the C63 AMGs in my area and there's nothing you can do because they come loud from the factory floor…

        • cannedhams on 27/06/2017 - 23:25
          +1

          @meumax: This. God i used to hate it when the baby was just about asleep and a harley would rip past outside and wake him up.

    • Bunnyburger on 23/06/2017 - 20:04

      Yea it's not hard to imagine they like startling people when they fire up their souped up cars.

    • zuuutoootuuu on 26/06/2017 - 15:28

      potato power

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PehJG_Y0_Q

  • Redang3lz on 22/06/2017 - 22:35
    +49

    To overcompensate for what they lack in other areas…

    • Kangal on 22/06/2017 - 22:51
      +24

      Yeah, my bum doesn't fart loud enough and the soles on my feet are too thin.

    • teasatotalling on 23/06/2017 - 10:12
      +2

      Spot on. Compensation, because they are such insecure people.

      • NosDan on 23/06/2017 - 15:59
        +2

        sounds like you are the only 2 trying to overcompensate

        modifying and racing cars is great fun and an adrenalin rush. not everyone is built to do nothing more than sit in a boring cubical at work for their whole lives…

        • teasatotalling on 23/06/2017 - 20:13
          +17

          Burnouts are the intellectual equivalent of sitting in a boring cubical
          Simple minds…..

        • Redang3lz on 23/06/2017 - 22:15
          +11

          I don't disagree that modifying cars for racing/improving performance can be fun for some people. My comment refers to those that purchase a terrible excuse of a car then stick on a cannon of an exhaust because loud = "cool". I have a terrible memory of a dark green Hyundai excel with a huge spoiler, body kit and hugeass exhaust… definitely compensating for something…

        • DarkOz on 24/06/2017 - 10:46

          @Redang3lz: This reminded me of the Hyundai Excel I could never get rid of in my mind from 20 years ago. Was the number plate KINGXL? LOL!

        • sublemon on 24/06/2017 - 15:17

          @Redang3lz:
          Although what you say is true. You have to remember not everyone can afford nice cars and still chase modifying what they can afford.

        • imurgod on 25/06/2017 - 08:06

          @DarkOz: hyper club?

        • Moose-au on 25/06/2017 - 09:55
          +3

          Fine. Yes. But do it on a race track or on your own land - and NOT the (profanity) public streets or in public car parks you morons !

        • Day2Deal on 25/06/2017 - 13:49

          @Moose-au: The only problem with that is most people (not all, there are a lot of idiots out there) want to do this stuff on a track but tracks are few and far in between. And in the miracle someone will fund a track the stupid governments won't approve it to be built as it would cause a massive loss in ticket revenue.

        • buckster on 25/06/2017 - 17:15
          +1

          @Day2Deal: it's more that they don't want to pay to use the track

  • spackbace on 22/06/2017 - 22:45
    +40

    Why do we do anything stupid in life…? It's fun for some people

    What's wrong with modifying a car to be better than it was from factory?

    I'm guessing OP drives something really plain and boring, white in colour, and probably a little dented up because there's no pride in it

    Oh… I remember you

    Bought that car yet?

    • Toons on 22/06/2017 - 23:13
      +5

      you would have to be a car salesman to have recall like that

      • spackbace on 22/06/2017 - 23:18

        Lol my recall is pretty bad! I'm hopeless for names

        • Toons on 22/06/2017 - 23:36

          did you get her into the prius it's the only conclusion asking something like that

          The simple answer to the question is possibly testosterone butin saying that

          We live in a country brought up on big blocks and the not so subtle soundtrack of something that wants to rip your head off.

          My my 3 yr old has a cheeky chuckle every time i start the car.

          Something you (OP) would only understand once you got behind the wheel of something like that

          Try it, you might answer your own question

    • Euphemistic on 22/06/2017 - 23:15

      Think you sold the OP a Camry didn't you?

      • spackbace on 22/06/2017 - 23:19
        +2

        Over the last month? Doubt it :P

      • spackbace on 23/06/2017 - 15:28
        +25

        You don't know much about vehicles do you?

        Many stock exhaust systems are restricted. By opening it up, either by a better exhaust system or the whole way through you will gain more power. In fact it's the first thing many people do to make easy power

        • spackbace on 23/06/2017 - 15:42
          +28

          @Christy Bambi:

          Air flow, not sound per se

          With larger pipes comes more noise

          If you don't know how air flow affects engine/turbo performance, then I'll reiterate, you obviously don't know anything about engines.

          But hey, nice to know your 'dumbest comment' statement is ironic :)

        • spackbace on 23/06/2017 - 16:03
          +24

          @Christy Bambi:

          OP wasn't being specific to exhaust tips, and nor was my comment. Just because a car is noisier doesn't mean they've only changed the tip.

          Going back to my original comment:

          What's wrong with modifying a car to be better than it was from factory?

          Improved exhaust system = better than it was from factory.

          Please don't start an argument based on something you have no clue about, it really just makes you look like an idiot.

        • NosDan on 23/06/2017 - 16:05
          +16

          @Christy Bambi: ever heard an engine run without an exhaust? its loud as hell. the sound is already there dummy
          in the stock exhaust system they place big, restrictive mufflers to quieten the motors, this causes added back pressure and restriction which the engine then has to overcome along with its typical driving factors
          adding a bigger/free'er flowing (and thus louder) exhaust removes those restrictions and INCREASING power and DECREASING fuel use.

        • NosDan on 23/06/2017 - 16:07
          +4

          @TightBottom:

          The people who modify don't care for science.

          thats funny when you look into all the science that is involved in producing such huge power levels from an internal combustion engine…. you do realise that the controlling of the explosion inside the motor is completely scientific, right?

        • btst7000 on 23/06/2017 - 16:40
          +8

          @Christy Bambi: You are very ignorant to how cars work.

        • spackbace on 23/06/2017 - 16:40
          +11

          @Christy Bambi:

          So you can't fathom why/how someone will replace the entire exhaust system to improve the performance of their car?

          Stop being so narrow-minded it's really frustrating.

          I never mentioned simple things like an exhaust tip, I clearly say 'modifying', you're reading into this without thinking of all the possibilities.

          Modifying can be many things, and can be more than just an exhaust tip (and 90% of the time it is more than just a tip), so please give it up.

        • ozeebee on 23/06/2017 - 19:11
          +9

          @Christy Bambi:

          In fairness, you should've stopped ages ago with your ignorant comments. It just made you look dumber and dumber trying to be a know it all.

        • John Dough on 23/06/2017 - 19:44
          +1

          @Christy Bambi:
          The only layman terms are being directed at you.
          Stop talking. Now. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and are misleading people.

        • davus on 23/06/2017 - 23:54

          stock exhaust systems are very heavy too!

        • [Deactivated] on 24/06/2017 - 07:48
          +2

          @nosdan:
          More often than not though, it is done for the poser factor.

          The biggest restriction in the stock system is usually the downpipe as the cat cells are expensive to manufacture. Just widening the down pipe without increasing the cat cells overall would increase emmisions, which would bar the sale or increase the taxation bracket in many countries.

          If one were to decrease the back pressure, the ECU would have to be retuned to take full advantage of the increase exhaust flow.

          Most of the time, the loud weedwhacker sounding cars have their baffle removed, and the tail end of the exhaust modified. it is a cheap modification that yields barely measurable improvements. These guys typically congregate at night talking about how powerful their cars are.

          The only number relevant to a race or track driver is lap times. Loudness is restricted in all CAMS events and most (all that I can think of) race tracks. Proper suspension mods (coilovers and control arms, not springs) cost far more than exhaust upgrades. Brake upgrades cost more than some engines. Slicks (or semi) also cost from $1.5k (for wider and more expensive brands, it can easily be $4k).

          But what do I know. I don't drive a "800 horse Supra".

        • wimphrel on 24/06/2017 - 12:52
          +5

          @nosdan:

          In Christy's defense, and to probably clarify some things, I perceive two types of exhaust mods:

          1) The proper mods - e.g. Free-flow exhaust with the proper ECU retune, which improve torque/power , and make slightly more noise (but are generally not that offensive)

          2) And then there's the MILO-tin exhaust tip mod on the Excel.

          The latter I'll never get… but in answer to the OP's question. Back in High School I've always wanted a car that sounds 'like' a racer, and before youtube tutorials I thought a MILO tin would add a few bhp.

          Nowdays, after I've read a few more articles, I don't want the MILO tin anymore. Some people may have not done more reading since high school. (I wouldn't mind a full-exhaust mod and a ECU retune though - but the car's not worth it)…

        • wimphrel on 24/06/2017 - 13:20
          +5

          @Christy Bambi:
          I used to think this too before I got some experience in manufacturing & product design.

          The exhaust system (& ECU mappings) are probably designed to cater for multiple markets. In order to do this, they have to determine worst-case scenarios, and ensure their product works reliably in these situations. For the mass produced cars, they are verified by design, and cars are only batched tested - i.e. each car has variance, and they can only optimise to design assumptions, not to the car itself. This generally limits their ability to fine tune the engine for the 'ideal scenario'.
          (Low volume engines/cars like sports car engines are calibrated and tested individually, but it means a new engine won't just work when you throw it in, like a cheap Jap car. These cars have to be re-calibrated).

          Australia uses relatively low-quality of fuel too (at least I keep hearing), so it wouldn't be surprising if the cars imported here are set to handle a lot of varying fuel types and qualities. (There are probably cars that won't be sold here cos of our fuel). For this reason the engine & exhaust may not be operating at their most optimal scenario if the fuel type could be guranteed.

          Proper modifications (I.e. ones that are followed up by Objective data - i.e. a dyno tune), generally optimise the fuel mapping to car, and optimise the exhaust flow & pressure for the car model. It will also be set to ignore some worst-case scenarios - e.g. this engine will only use 98 RON fuel. The engine then runs better according to preferred metrics, but if you mis-use the car and put 91 Fuel in you can destroy the engine. There are now tools that can let users switch between default and Custom programs at home (so they can set back to defaults before they sell the car, etc).

        • Toons on 24/06/2017 - 13:33
          +2

          @Christy Bambi: have you been introduced to a mandrel allows you to minimise resistance through the bends

          Mandrel bending alone will add 3-5% more horsepower and torque confirmed by dyno's so if you want to get scientific there is a whole stack of actual evidence to back this up.

          and yes to that shitty excel above will gain.

          Pressure pressed exhausts are the norm on factory cars that aren't performance orientated simply costs more to do it right.

          3" exhaust for example restricts nominal size of exhaust that is pressure bent by 1/2 an inch also a proven fact.

          your failing here on 2 fronts your supposed science and your credibility of your supposed knowledge of combustion engines

          I'm happy to see your calculations on noise vs real figures from real world application and proven data sets.

          get 2 straws one straight one bendy hold both with a 20 degree bend and suck if you need more proof after that only divine intervention or darwin will assist.

        • ls123 on 25/06/2017 - 09:48

          @Christy Bambi: factory exhausts on sports cars are a means of cost savings for manufacturers because they know they're going to be replaced by aftermarket parts anyways. So no, absolutely no money gets spent in the development of exhausts by them (unless we're talking supercar makers). The money that is put into exhaust research done by the aftermarket companies, and there is a PLETHORA of information available for people who want to mod their car of the actual power benefits. Do a quick google search for "exhaust dyno results".

        • k-rokfm on 25/06/2017 - 10:03

          @ls123:

          Actually there is a lot of development in the creation of factory exhausts, but it is development to meet strict emission guidelines and most definitely not performance or engine beneficial development.

        • ls123 on 25/06/2017 - 10:09

          @k-rokfm: That is very true, for example the next generation Golfs have watercooled headers to increase turbo efficiency. My point was aimed at the performance side of things (sports cars), however this could further illustrate that manufacturers are willing to sacrifice performance for emissions and efficiency.

        • Day2Deal on 25/06/2017 - 13:57

          @Christy Bambi: First of all i have not and probably never will modify my exhaust, but power is gained through it.
          The reason power is gained is because you are restricting the airflow from lets say 4" down to a 2 inch exhaust, a larger exhaust allows the air to flow more freely causing a power gain. however my explanation sucks so i recommend watching a youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PVXvHkr-Vs

        • peterpaoliello on 25/06/2017 - 14:07
          +1

          @Christy Bambi: The sound exists anyway, a car muffler or suppressor does exactly that. You're not creating noise, you're just allowing the natural sound of the engine be free without artificially suppression.

          It's exactly like a suppressor on a gun, having the round make less noise doesn't increase the power - just the opposite actually.

        • DangerNoodle on 26/06/2017 - 05:51
          +3

          @k-rokfm: you're right, there is a fair bit of development in stock exhausts. In my old Evo 8, there was zero power to be gained from replacing the cat back section, it's nothing but noise since the factory unit was not restrictive (3inch mandrel bent from factory), and the factory cat was a high flow unit. It generally depends on the vehicle, as performance vehicles tend to be optimised better for minimal loss of performance vs emissions. My current car also has little to gain from exhaust modifications.

          The vast majority of vehicles with cannons that I've seen think they're gaining power, but they aren't. They're losing power because they're killing the flow on their tiny 1.3L engines. Furthermore, from what I remember about SA rules, you are technically only allowed to increase exhaust volume by a maximum of 5.0db above the factory exhaust system. They were just buying into a craze at the time. Having previously had a loud exhaust, it becomes annoying as a daily driver, especially on highway trips and it really annoys the neighbours.

          There can be power to be gained, but it depends on the car. People see power as a figure on a piece of paper and think that more peak power is better overall, but the area under the curve is more important. An example would be the new wrx vs the new sti. People see 221kw on the sti and think 'hey, this car will be better than the wrx as a daily'. But they fail to factor in the area under the curves. The wrx uses an equal length manifold setup with a smaller turbo and starts making boost from 2000rpm whereas the sti still uses the old ej25 with a tuned length manifold and a bigger turbo which doesn't start making power until 3500rpm. As a daily, you will rarely be using the turbo on the sti and the standard wrx makes more power than the sti below 3500rpm. With exhausts, it is more or less the same. People see that bigger exhausts will give them a bigger peak figure, but they fail to notice that they are losing power in the lower rev range, which is where daily drivers spend most of their time.

          In my current vehicle, the only restrictive section is after the extractors, but increasing the diameter here would only increase power at the upper rev range whilst costing me power in the lower rev range. If my car was a track car then this would be good, but it's not, it's a daily so I would rather keep the power in a section of the rev range that I would use. Plus, I didn't see much point in adding 2kw at the redline to an engine that already make 235kw.

          The main thing most people with fart cannons dont understand is that it's a balancing act. In my eyes, upgrading an exhaust is less about gaining power, and more about freeing up the engine's restricted power, your power will only increase up to a certain point and bigger won't always be better. If your engine is naturally aspirated, you can lose a fair bit of power by slapping on a big exhaust unless it is tuned to take advantage of the bigger exhaust, and even then it is pointless to slap a 3inch mandrel bent exhaust onto a 2L NA vehicle. In a turbo car you can gain a lot more power from exhausts,but still only up to a certain extent.

          Australian fuel quality does factor into our ecu tuning. Furthermore, every engine built by manufacturers is not exactly the same- there are standard deviations considered acceptable within their manufacturing. Usually ECUs are tuned more conservatively so that a bigger amount of engines will run safely as opposed to maximising the power from the factory. And yes, imported vehicles are generally designed to run on higher quality fuels and do perform worse on our fuels. However, imported vehicles that are sold locally will generally be retuned for our market of fuels, and will adapt to lower qualities of fuel since they assume there will be at least one idiot who puts 91 octane in a vehicle that asks for 98. However, vehicles imported privately or through the SEVS scheme will not be tuned to accept our fuel. These need to be retuned manually.

        • Toons on 26/06/2017 - 20:50

          @DangerNoodle: at last some sense

          people don't consider the intake either pointless trying to have a free lowing outlet if you can't get the air in

          we were buggering around on the dyno one day and i'd seen these inserts (that we thought were gimmicky that increased airflow by helping creating a vortex) till we tried them put them in were installation was recommended and nothing huge to report so we played a bit more and placed another one right up to the butterfly on the intake resulted in quite a change

          much better throttle response and a fair gain in power putting it just in front of intake manifold it was throwing that extra turbulent air through getting much better burn and much more responsive.

          we left it at that first got an increase on a tank of juice by 100k's in range city driving, just for this simple little as i said gimmick as it appeared. a couple of weeks later when we had some more playtime booked with the dyno we installed another couple so ended up with one on air intake just after the full flow air filter the other place was just a bit before the turbo increased we stuck the last one on the exhaust outlet figured if it was helping push so much on the intake no harm in trying to give the exhaust a helping hand don't know what the gain was with the last one but the one prior to the turbo and one prior to intake manifold yielded results that were quite unexpected effectively paid for themselves in fuel economy but increased power to over a larger range.

          change in response was amazing and actually added more in overall performance than the exhaust. the mechanic i used for my ECU stuff was confused as hell and wanted to know what the F#@% i''d been playing with when i went for the retune he couldn't see anything obvious that should have been causing the increases he was seeing.

        • DangerNoodle on 27/06/2017 - 07:23

          @Toons: it's always surprising how small changes can have big effects. My V36 skyline came with 10.5inch wide wheels at the front and 9.5inch wheels at the front, beyond the range of the factory wheel deflectors. The lower part of the wheels were exposed, which I suspected was killing the fuel economy (11L/100km of country driving 14L/100km of city driving). I fitted mudflaps on the front of the guard instead of the back to act as larger smoother wind deflectors, now I'm averaging 9.5L/100km on highways and 13L/100km in the city. It's a small improvement that will pay itself off.

          I haven't seen these vortex generators you're talking about though. Have you got a link you could message me with?

        • Toons on 27/06/2017 - 10:59

          @DangerNoodle: yeah I'll have a dig around

          your comment says both wheels for front

          only reason i'm wondering what is factory set up mine is reverse to what people would normally think

          Mine stock from factory
          255/30ZR19 front
          235/35ZR19 rear

          Haven't started playing with this one yet and not planning on it till my corporate warranty is up as they pay for absolutely everything.

          But i haven't had to worry about efficiency yet either i can increase it in 2 ways without having to make physical adjustments

          1, let it drive, on a county drive it took my max range over 1300ks out of a 50l tank, city quite easily into the high 6's but i've never been able to survive a full tank to work out the real number without slamming it into full attack on the odd occasion
          2, run an efficiency program scrolls a list of items that could be changed to improve fuel efficiency down the dash
          gives me the change and the corresponding figure in l/h of driving it would make by changing.

          i think those things were called hiclone's but as i said we went away from recommended install and bought sizes that would fit where we thought might best help. the extra turbulent air was the most obvious increase going straight into manifold the better fuel burn was so apparent even without the dyno to prove

        • DangerNoodle on 27/06/2017 - 15:49

          @Toons: whoops it won't let me edit.

          I'm running 245/45R18 at the front on 9.5inch wide wheels and 265/40R18 on the rears. They messed up for the sizing for the rear tyres, could have easily gone 275/45 in the rear. I'm assuming they went for the staggered sidewall since it was like that from factory but the 40 sidewalls in the rear have made the actual speed lower than the speedometer speed according to a gps test. Will fix it when I burn through these tyres over the next 30000km.

          I see what you mean though. Normally factory is wider at the rear. What car is it?

        • Toons on 27/06/2017 - 16:35

          @DangerNoodle: RS3

          Killer car needed a couple of extras for the performance

          the suspension upgrade is a must or it's a bit rough as a daily the electronic suspension is great for when you want to stop it being a killer and go back to luxury and i've got a couple of other things including my upper limit removal

          normally the tyres on the rear are on the front too of the model without the performance upgrades.

          We hit mid 3's consistently to 100 and under 12 for the 1/4

          i was shown a couple of vids of some testing that was done (vids remain in their possession of the driver for reasonable reasons) i wouldn't be sharing them if they were mine, and knowing who they are i wouldn't be naming them either, winding it right off the 300 on the clock digital speedo keeps going was still pulling at 320.

        • Toons on 27/06/2017 - 16:43

          @DangerNoodle: speedo's are known to be under generally by 10 % you can get someone to recalibrate it

          RAC have a list of people who can do it or used to. there are obviously companies that need to calibrate their fleet due to duty. on a regular basis.

          in the rule book we are responsible for it only if it's reading slower than actual its a problem for manufacturer.

        • DangerNoodle on 28/06/2017 - 06:08

          @Toons: I haven't taken mine to the track yet. Mine is supposed to be 5.7-ish for 0-100 and low 14s for the quarter.

          I previously owned an Evo 8 but I rarely took it to the track. When some idiot T-boned me, I figured I'd get a more comfortable car this time around so I ended up getting a V36 skyline 350gt sedan. Quite luxurious on the inside compared to the v35 350gt

        • clanclan on 11/07/2017 - 13:11

          @nosdan:

          yup

      • FourMills on 25/06/2017 - 21:01
        -1

        Typical woman who knows nothing about cars.

        • jackspratt on 26/06/2017 - 00:11
          -2

          Not worth a neg.

          Interesting comment history - generally no more than 1 provocation per thread, and then slinks back under his bridge.

        • FourMills on 26/06/2017 - 21:50

          @jackspratt: She'll definitely sleep with you if you keep defending her honour.

        • jackspratt on 27/06/2017 - 00:11
          -1

          @FourMills:

          FM stumbles out from under the bridge, to double his (very) average trolling posts per thread.

  • inherentchoice on 22/06/2017 - 22:47
    +14

    They're possessed by the spirit of bogan hoons.

  • Kiato on 22/06/2017 - 23:00
    +19

    How else are they supposed to draw attention to their 15 year old falcon/ civic ?

  • HarmonicMelody on 22/06/2017 - 23:05
    +11

    2.Modify the exhaust of cars so that they are unbearably loud

    So people know they are coming. It's a safety feature. holds in laugh

    • k-rokfm on 22/06/2017 - 23:09
      +1

      Actually on a motorbike this is a very valid reason. Also changing the exhaust on a vehicle allows the engine (with an appropriate tune) to work a lot more efficiently

      • pegaxs on 24/06/2017 - 11:49
        +6

        Lol @ "loud pipes save lives" mantra…

        I own and ride loud bikes and even I realise that this is rubbish. The noise from exhausts comes out the back. So, unless you are in front of a car, there is really no noticeable increase in awareness. Most modern cars are way more insulated against things like outside noises, add that to in car entertainment systems…

        • wimphrel on 24/06/2017 - 12:35
          +4

          Agree with pegaxs, most of those sports exhausts send the loud noise backwards from the rider.

          Unless it's a Cruiser with an exhaust that wakes up the entire neighbourhood, I won't hear you as a driver until you are up in my blind spot area. Even then, I'll only hear those super Noisy Cruisers when it's about roughly 2-3 car lengths behind me at speed. If they're overtaking me at a 40km/h differential, the normal RTA-training of a blind spot headcheck is rendered useless. By the time I turned my head back to the front they're in my blind spot.

          I ride the most quietest motorbikes, and I don't get cut off much at all. Just stay out of people's blind spots, and match your speed with the surrounding cars (it's stupid to always be overtaking at a 40km/h difference for fear of getting sideswiped or rear ended i.e. to get to the front of the pack). That's equivalent to passing a parked car (which is on & idling) at 40km/h and not buffering for the chance it'll start moving out or doing a U-turn

        • Ehx on 25/06/2017 - 17:47

          All it needs to do is save me once in my life. I ride and any increase of safety, whether it be 0.5% or 1%, I'd take it.

        • wimphrel on 25/06/2017 - 23:31

          @Ehx: True, it's a good point I suppose. I just worry when people become complacent and go 'everyone will hear me' so I will be safe. I don't hear a lot of sports exhausts until they're in killing distance when I'm driving.

        • abb on 26/06/2017 - 16:14

          @Ehx: Wearing proper gear will increase your safety 10%. Reducing speed will increase your safety by 20%.

          Strangely most of the "loud pipes" crew only care about safety when it sounds like a double barreled shotgun…

      • uzz30 on 26/06/2017 - 17:46
        +1

        Following this rational, bicycles should be fitted with sirens or foghorns.

  • Euphemistic on 22/06/2017 - 23:22
    +27

    I like driving, I like driving fast, I like driving off road, I like the sound of a v8, I like the feel of hard acceleration, I like the sound of a tyre screech, I like to build/fix/modify. I've done my time with cars modified to meet those things, but I'd still like to do it if it wasn't for family commitments and some new found maturity.

    I found with a modded exhaust it was only a problem for a long trip on the highway, droning along at 110 for hours. Otherwise it's great to hear.

    My next project in the very early planning phase is an electric conversion for a classic car. Will cover everything except for the smell and noise I suspect.

    Right Now I make do with modifying push bikes. It's cheaper, quicker, and I can ride as fast as I want without losing my licence (because I don't break the speed limit).

  • apple2016 on 22/06/2017 - 23:25
    +8

    2.Modify the exhaust of cars so that they are unbearably loud

    I call it music!….

    • misfitt1911 on 23/06/2017 - 09:28
      +1

      I like to call it music, too. But, on long drives, I would prefer to turn it off.

      • BartholemewH on 23/06/2017 - 21:55

        Get an exhaust with a solenoid to change from street to track with the flick of a switch.

  • airal3rt on 22/06/2017 - 23:29
    -1

    Do you wave your walking stick and yell angrily at the children playing on your lawn, OP?

    Also, burnouts are in no way shape or form dangerous… doughnuts can be if you're a shit driver and doing them recklessly, but burnouts? Not even close to dangerous.

    Oh, and you missed a pro: FUN. Why do people do any of the things they do? Because it's a subjective experience that many people find fun and entertaining. Stop being so closed-minded.

    • Moose-au on 25/06/2017 - 10:03
      +1

      Also, burnouts are in no way shape or form dangerous…
      but burnouts? Not even close to dangerous.

      WTF are you smoking ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

      Best Embarrassing Burnout Fails Compilation
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFgecxaBzJw

      There are heaps of videos like this on YouTube.

      • Ehx on 25/06/2017 - 17:48
        -4

        That's like saying that parks should be banned because I can find fail videos for people falling off monkey bars. lmao.

        • Moose-au on 25/06/2017 - 17:54
          +2

          No it isn't. Parks can be used for many things - picnics, flying kites, kicking / throwing balls, etc. And, monkey bars, etc can be used safely.

          Of course, many idiots using them have caused many toys to be taken out of parks - the old steam engines, the whirly gigs, etc - are all pretty well gone now.

          Burn outs on the other hand, are exciting because they can be so dangerous - especially when they are performed by idiots with inflated opinions of their abilities in public places.

      • daleyboy79 on 26/06/2017 - 11:35

        Ten pin bowling could be pretty darn dangerous …… if you tried playing it in the middle of Pitt st Mall in Sydney!!!

  • subywagon on 22/06/2017 - 23:42
    +2

    Damn Hoonigans!

  • steven6 on 23/06/2017 - 00:17
    +16

    The loud exhaust is the mating call of the bogan. This is followed by a demonstration of the bogans ability to produce tyre smoke.

  • airzone on 23/06/2017 - 00:55
    +1

    Why do people do anything? For those who are into it, it's fun. Could say the same thing about people who like country or classical music… Or those who like dogs. These people are sick in the head, disgusting, and vile, pitiful husks of trash. Or maybe they enjoy something that I have no appreciation for, and that's OK.

    • teasatotalling on 23/06/2017 - 10:13

      I like hunting humans

      • airzone on 23/06/2017 - 13:03

        Do you eat them? It's a waste of meat otherwise

        • Archi on 23/06/2017 - 14:07

          he takes the penises for medicine and dumps the rest of the carcass

        • airzone on 23/06/2017 - 15:32

          There might be some ethical concerns with lower human horn harvesting.

        • teasatotalling on 26/06/2017 - 10:26
          -1

          @Archi: Nah, I'm not from some intellectual backwater like China

  • TheBilly on 23/06/2017 - 02:34
    +22

    Why do people eat fast food, even though it makes them fat? Why do people keep up with fashion trends, even though they only need to be not naked? Why do people upgrade their phones, even though the old one still works? Why do people want more money, even though less money is generally enough? Why do people ask stupid questions, even though the answers are obvious?… Just because.

    • TheBilly on 23/06/2017 - 02:34
      +1

      Ps. Loud or open exhausts allow fuel efficiency and better performance. Burnouts, are just fun.

    • [Deactivated] on 23/06/2017 - 13:29

      Why are you still here?

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