Warehouse1 eBay Store has just listed the Seagate 8TB Backup Plus Hub Desktop Drive USB 3.0 for $379 - 20% using CRACKA20 code which brings it down to $303.20 delivered. Cheapest price on staticice is $348.98 + delivery.
Don't forget your cashrewards for an extra 1.3% off bringing it down to $299.26
I'd assume so, I could use a third 8tb.
Can anyone confirm you can just pull it apart and take the archive out, no silly soldered on PCB?
Yep. Still usable in a NAS as I've done it a few times with previous models and have never had a problem but as others will comment the write speeds are low which may/may not be an issue. They were cost effective a year or so ago but you can get non-SMR 8TB HDDs these days for about this price from Amazon US so it's probably better going that way TBH. Note: I used previous models so I'm not 100% sure about this exact model sorry.
Usable? sure
My advice: don't use SMR drives for anything other than they're designed for - archive (large contiguous writes and fewer reads. low i/o)
They have extremely poor random i/o - something that will hugely hamper the performance of a raid volume as you might use in a 3-8 bay NAS. They were designed to get as cost-effective archive capacity as possible and that came at a cost of the random i/o performance.
I got one from Amazon a few days ago, it's am Archive drive inside, I've ripped it out and it's now in my PC working without any issue.
The seller looks dodgy. There is already negative feedback about the item never got sent for the same item.
99% positive feedback on 4700 sales "looks dodgy"
C'mon man what kind of impossible standards do you have
haha sorry if I have higher standards :)
I am looking from productreview website which shows 1.6 out of 5
Yeah.. fair enough that's pretty horrific hah I take my comment back!
I am looking from productreview website which shows 1.6 out of 5
I'd trust ebay ratings over productreview ratings any day…
Given the pressure to leave positive feedback I'd say anything under 99.5% is a real gamble.
The seller looks dodgy. There is already negative feedback about the item never got sent for the same item.
I bought off them recently on ebay… Fast delivery, no problems…
Read the whirlpool thread on this mob before purchasing from them…
Buyer beware
I didn't have any problems buying from them.
What bad experience did you have?
Gave ME the run around.. Said item was in stock… then as soon as I paid.. not in stock..
long time for refund..
anything else you require?
anything else you require?
No, I received my item 2 days after ordering with free express post.
Seagate Drives. The giant recycle bin. Had too many Seagate drives die to ever trust them again!
I have the same issue with WD. Not sure what to use then.
How many WD drives have you had die? Internal or external?
Have you had 2 die in a 2 week time period? Have you had them all run hot from day one? External Seagate 3 and 4 TB drives were the worst of the worst!
So strange. I've been running 4 x 4TB ST4000DM000 Seagates in one of my NAS boxes 24/7 for… let me see… 27898 hours which is about 3.2 years! I've never used 3TB HDDs but used many 2TB, 1TB, 500Gb & 250Gb Seagates over the years and only had one failure of a 2TB which was an over-the-counter DOA replacement so no dramas there. I've also looked after literally hundreds of PCs at work loaded up with Seagates and other brands (but mainly Seagates) without any issues. Not sure if I'm just lucky but I've never experienced the failures I keep reading about here.
Most of the Seagate drives I have run in external cases. And they run hot even with a desk fan on them if they are getting moderate-heavy use. I would say that's one major contributing factor.
The 3TB model that was the subject of a class action according to Backblaze had a REALLY high failure rate according to Backblaze. Drives installed in 2012 had "2.7% failing in 2012, 5.4% failing in 2013, and 47.2% failing in 2014."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ST3000DM001
So half of all drives dead in 3 years in a heavy use but well ventilated and vibration dampened environment.
"Other 3 TB hard drives that Backblaze placed in service in 2012, which were operated in a similar environment as the Seagate drives, did not show signs of increased failure."
The only seagate I've ever killed is an old 750 with the round power plug. I plugged in the wrong charger, poof. Even then a solder job got me going again. WDs, I've lost 4 of the 1tb drives in 2 months a couple years ago, haven't been game to try them again. I am currently using 2 2tb internals, 1 1tb internal, and 2 2tb externals & a 4tb external. all seagate,All working, but I have learned to back up! Probably just luck so far.
3-4Tb Seagates were notorious for failures. I'm sure the letters ST3000DM001 would have many an it consultant cower in fear!
Recent 5-8Tb drives from Seagate are much better though and afaik aren't any more (or less) prone to failure than other brands.
As per my reply to syousef above, I've used dozens and dozens of 4TB Seagates and have never had a problem. Odd.
Luck of the draw I guess!
I've personally had a 3TB drive fail on me. Stayed away from seagate for a while but it seems they're much better these days.
There was a class action filed against them last year for these very drives so it's definitely a widespread problem.
Yes, I did know their 3TB HDDs were bad but luckily I skipped over them and waited for the 4s. I usually just keep doubling my NAS every 2-3 years whenever I manage to scratch up the cash starting out with two 250s, then adding another two to the 4-bay ReadyNAS back in the day. I replaced them all with 500s then replaced the ReadyNAS with another and filled it with 1s then 2s then got into a DIY NAS running Xpenology loading it up with the four 4s and I'm just in the middle of building my new Xpenology NAS with four 8s but this time I've gone for shucked WDs instead. I've also built up dozens of DIY NAS boxes for friends and family most of them running two Seagates or WDs and never had a problem with them either.
Wow that's some serious storage!
I could have sworn the 4tb were troublesome drives too but you're probably right about that one :D
@jzdhgkd: Ha, yeah. Wanted to increase storage after recently installing a few IP cameras and deciding that keeping 30 days of 24/7 highest resolution footage from each was a good idea :) 30-Days of 24/7 footage = 1TB per 4 or 5MP camera. On a more serious side though, I usually try to replace my NAS HDDs at around the 3 year mark so the two reasons crossed over nicely.
This isn't the archive drive is it?