Buying New 7 Seven Seater SUV and Need Your Suggestions

LDesiBoy on 21/05/2017 - 09:44

Hi,

I am planning to buy 7 seater SUV and got couple of choices:

  1. Mazda CX 9 Azami MY17 Brand New
  2. Land Rover Discovery Sports TD4 HSE MY16 done 19K KM.

I am thinking of going with Mazda just because that is a brand new car, got more space inside and have more features like start stop, smart city break, etc..

On the other hand I see the brand i.e. Land Rover, diesel engine better fuel efficiency, exterior is lot better, comes with panoramic roof. I have tried online reviews for both the cars and they both have same reviews.

My budget is around $60K.

Can someone please suggest or advice me on the above 2 cars?

Thanks

Automotive

Comments

        • [Deactivated] on 26/05/2017 - 15:55
          -1

          @Burnertoasty:
          Mechanically they aren't as good.
          Still nice cars but repairs/servicing on a RR are 4x as much as a discovery.
          Makes sense because RR is 3x as much than a LR.

        • [Deactivated] on 26/05/2017 - 17:32

          @murphy84: That's just complete bullshit. They are mechanically identical from the drive train to the Floorpan. That applies for this current generation, and for the previous generation the Range Rover was vastly superior as it had an aluminium chassis while the Disco was steel. They share identical engines, gearboxes, suspension, transfer cases, etc etc. You are literally just making rubbish up.

  • LurvinOZB on 23/05/2017 - 11:35
    +3

    MU-X <— reliable engine, good fuel economy

    • animal on 24/05/2017 - 13:47

      I'll second that. Great value for money. Isuzu have 4x2 and 4x4 options.

      We have one and love it! Lots of room and much cheaper than the Prado.

      The mother-in-law fits comfortably in the rear row seats.

      • Mad Max on 24/05/2017 - 14:47
        +2

        I think it has the same chassis of the Colorado 7.

        • animal on 24/05/2017 - 16:21

          Yeah. Next generation models won't be though as Isuzu and GM/Holden are no longer collaborating. Mazda and Isuzu are buddies now.

    • chumlee on 24/05/2017 - 14:48

      Interior is sub par compared to a cx9 or Kluger

      • animal on 24/05/2017 - 16:32

        Not really comparing the same type of cars though. 4x4 turbo diesel versus AWD petrol. Different uses, engines, features and so on.

        Comparing to Prado ($10-15k more than the MU-X) or other 4x4 SUVs is a fairer comparison.

      • LurvinOZB on 24/05/2017 - 18:07

        CX9 different class to MU-X. I used to drive the previous CX9 - nice leathery interior but horrendous fuel consumption.

        MU-X on the other hand; rugged and supposedly bullet proof engine. Get an LST if you fancy leathers.

        For the price, you probably only score plasticky Prado.

        Latly if interior matters, you should be looking at Touareg, followed by X6 and Mercedes M Series

        • chumlee on 24/05/2017 - 19:35

          OP wanted advice on cx9 and discovery sport which means an MU-X isn't in the mix

        • LurvinOZB on 25/05/2017 - 09:51

          @chumlee: what are you? Ozbargain police? you wish to tell everyone here who suggest otherwise? go troll elsewhere

  • blergmonkeys on 23/05/2017 - 11:35
    +4

    Thought about the new skoda kodiaq? It looks the part, has oodles of tech, is 7 seater with lots of room and is priced very well. Arriving in June/July.

    • maverickjohn on 23/05/2017 - 19:35

      Agree with this. Reviews are positive.
      I was regretting purchasing my civic vti lx when i saw this advertised.
      For a few thousand extra this was a dream car

      • blergmonkeys on 23/05/2017 - 21:02

        Reckon skoda's knocking it out right now. Just purchased an octavia scout and, for the price, it's bloody brilliant. Best car I've owned!

      • PVA on 23/05/2017 - 21:25

        what, you bought a civic but you really wanted a suv?

        • llllllllllllll on 26/05/2017 - 12:31

          Isn't this Skoda gonna be around 42k+ mark? How much did you pay for your Civic?

  • ahly92 on 23/05/2017 - 12:37
    +1

    Can't help you much BUT the best 4wd I drove was in the USA last summer… Wish it was in Aus!

    Chevrolet Tahoe

    • Euphemistic on 01/06/2017 - 11:42
      +1

      Only problem with those is the extra size. You would struggle to find a parking space or garage big enough. My Navara is big enough to cause hassles with parking, let alone any bigger. Aussies don't cater for oversize yank trucks.

  • OzzyOzbourne on 23/05/2017 - 13:08
    +1

    Toyota

  • burningrage on 23/05/2017 - 14:15

    Wait a sec. Can you get it for $60k now for Azami? Last time I spoke, the lowest was $66k.

    • DesiBoy on 23/05/2017 - 14:29

      Getting it for $62K could be EOFY sale.

      • burningrage on 23/05/2017 - 16:12

        Below lct. Awesome. It will be $55k by Christmas 2018

  • jtc13 on 23/05/2017 - 15:50
    +3

    I had this dilemma 2 years back and went the Kia Sorento - No major complaints so far. This has been an excellent car. Love the 7 seats and have even sat in the last two myself on occasion. Fuel consumption on the diesel is great. Interior design is great. Infinity sound system sounds great. 7 yr warranty for comfort. Looks great. Handles really well which I have heard is not so great on the Mazda 9, although the Mazda is a bit longer.

    One big reason I went the Kia over the Mazda was the fuel consumption as work colleagues had the Mazda 9 and complained it was terrible on the fuel. This also came up in comparison reviews.

    Hope this helps and good luck.

    • ShortyX on 23/05/2017 - 19:36

      The old CX-9 was 6 cyl but the new is 4 cyl turbo.

      I went Sorento as well - no regrets.

    • usmanyousaf on 25/05/2017 - 05:30

      Your colleague must have the older model. The 2 best things Maxda improced alot are driving experience and 4 cylinder engine in it.
      The car is very quite from inside as they insulated the interior really well after loosing weight by replacing v6 engine with v4 cylinder.

      Having said that….Kia is also no doubt a very nice car and definitely a good choice.

  • FatGPT on 23/05/2017 - 16:46
    +3

    I would personally recommend the Toyota Camry

    • JTTheMan on 23/05/2017 - 17:27
      +1

      Funny! :<

  • Martini on 23/05/2017 - 17:11
    +1

    To consider the Discovery you'll need to ensure it has a clean service history. I have a Range Rover Sport with no problems so far, however many people I know with Land Rovers have been burnt with reliability issues. I know of two 2014 Discovery's that were purchased by close friends and both had all sorts of electrical issues, which were apparent in the service history, had they been bothered to check! To consider Land Rover, you really want some new car warranty remaining. If you can find a good one, they are a fantastic car.

  • JTTheMan on 23/05/2017 - 17:26

    A new Skoda 7 seater SUV is coming out in June (the Kodiaq) based on the VW Tiguan and I think a 7 seater Tiguan will also be launched soon too? They've got pretty good reviews on Youtube if you do a search.

  • nicholasfrawley on 23/05/2017 - 17:40
    +3

    https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Volvo-XC90-2015/…

    Ok this may be an unpopular opinion, but have a look into the new XC90s. They are phenomenal cars and they barely depreciate due to the large demand. The safety, economy and practicality is great, plus the back two seats are actually quite decently sized unlike the discovery and prado.

    We have owned 2 (a 2003 and 2012) and we get jealous when we see these new ones on the road. They are truly fantastic cars.

    • Skramit on 24/05/2017 - 16:04

      Yeah except those things are pushing 90k+ now. Volvo is pushing itself as a luxury brand now. You don't get much of a car unless you get all the options that cost a bomb.

    • Ahan on 25/05/2017 - 12:30
      +1

      Love the car. Shame it is too expensive…

  • spy on 23/05/2017 - 17:52
    +3

    Kia Sorento

  • usmanyousaf on 23/05/2017 - 19:12
    +1

    Definitely go with maxda cx9.

  • lollyball on 23/05/2017 - 21:03

    Watch this guys vids. Not associated. Just value his info.
    https://youtu.be/Q-Pi1Z4QxPI

    Happy hunting :)

  • His_Holiness on 23/05/2017 - 21:11
    +1

    Mitsubishi Pajero Sport. The top of the range model is 56k DA.

    • addictrkr on 23/05/2017 - 23:45

      PAJERO SPORT!! I second this

      • subywagon on 25/05/2017 - 22:59

        I third this!!! But only if you are going to do off roading

        • Mad Max on 25/05/2017 - 23:06
          -1

          It doesn't have much ground clearance though.
          For real off roading better off with Prado or Isuzu MU or Colorado 7.

        • sv123 on 26/05/2017 - 08:24

          @maxi: Pajero is for real off-roading. Pajero Sport (even though I don't like the look) would be fine also.

        • Euphemistic on 01/06/2017 - 11:44

          @sv123: Pajero Sport is basically a Triton ute with a wagon body isn't it? So touh enough for off road.

        • sv123 on 02/06/2017 - 07:18

          @Euphemistic: Yes the Pajero Sport's setup is as you've described. From what I've heard is that they are meant to be quite capable off-road vehicles despite their 'city' car looks.

        • Euphemistic on 02/06/2017 - 08:18
          +1

          @sv123: They fit in the catergory that also has Isuzu MU-X/Holden Trailblazer/Colorado 7, Ford Everest, Toyota Fortuner. All built/based on the ute chassis, built to be proper off roaders.

  • sajidmib on 23/05/2017 - 21:16
    -1

    I am looking to decide between a CX9 azami and VW tiguan 162 TDI not sure but If I ever get any of them I ll need full top of range.

  • addictrkr on 23/05/2017 - 23:44
    -1

    Pajero sport 7 seater if you want to enjoy both offroad and onroad…. and when I say offroad… I mean real offroad. Bought top model Exceed MY17 2 weeks ago fo 51k brand new.
    Rock solid and full of features when compared to Prado GXL which sells around 60k and toyota advertises dual zone AC as a premium feature!!!
    5 years warranty and 4 yrs roadside assist plus 3 capped servicing. Went through a lot of forums before buying and found nothing wrong with engine or transmission.
    Comes with top notch safety feature just google.
    It is capable of towing 3.1 ton with 8 speed auto and 8litre/ 100km.

    Compared to other top model softroaders or offroaders it is good saving and very good value for money.
    If really depends what you want from a 7 seat suv, I was after a rugged, realiable and occasional 7 seater SUV with gop notch safety features.

    • blergmonkeys on 24/05/2017 - 07:05
      -2

      It has a DPF. I hope you googled about the dpf. I did and that's what turned me off. (profanity) DPFs.

      • addictrkr on 24/05/2017 - 08:53
        -1

        I did my research, almost every modern diesel suv comes with DPF these days to comply with Euro 5 emmissions, prado has it too!!!… solution to DPF clogging is $300 CATCH CAN. Logically 5 years mitsubishi warranty will cover any such issues anyway hence why it wasn't an issue.

        • blergmonkeys on 24/05/2017 - 09:37
          +1

          It isn't covered under warranty because it is deemed a consumable.

          Look it up.

          And this is why diesels are a terrible idea nowadays.

          Go online and look up limp mode and how dangerous it is. Had a subie diesel I just got rid of because of DPF issues and unsafe limp mode activation.

          Up to you, but I wouldn't buy a vehicle with an $8000+ consumable that causes dangerous limp mode activation without warning when it starts to clog. Also, for an offroad vehicle to require regens even when off road makes for dangerous situations. What if you're fjording a river when the dpf is regenning? 700'C + water = big trouble. Lots of forum goers complaining of DPFs blowing out their exhaust systems because of this.

          Have a read:

          https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/what-do-when-a-d…

          It's dangerous, expensive and makes the vehicles unsuitable for their purpose.

  • This Guy on 24/05/2017 - 09:24
    +5

    If you want a smooth drive, buy a CX-9 or a Sorento.

    Sorento's have the most room in this class at this price point, especially in the third row, but CX-9's seats are softer. So your kids can either be cramped sitting on pillows or they can have room sitting on a seat built to support a 7 year warranty.

    Klugers are $10k more for no appreciable reason.

    Santa Fe's and the Mitsubishi's mentioned have tiny interiors compared to everything else listed. The Mitsubishi's mentioned are floaty because they are 4x4's designed to be comfortable 4x4ing. Santa Fe's don't seem to have the same level of noise, harshness and vibration suppression as everything else mentioned in this thread (take one of their diesels for a test drive…).

    Holden and Ford's large 4x4's are very similar to Mitsubishi ride and space wise, but Exceed trim level Mit's tend to be nicer. They are proper, reasonably priced 4x4's. To get more room than a Sorento you need to go a LandCruiser or a G Wagon (or a large people mover).

    I have no experience with modern Land Rovers. Head room look better on the Sport look better than anything else mentioned in this thread. Shoulder room looks compromised. Their flared wheel archers look cool but removes interior space and make it harder to park. The CX-9 is 10cm and the Sorento is 18cm's narrower. As Land Rover is a premium brand and comes with cooler toys and a nice interior. It will generally come with premium servicing costs.

    I work in this industry. My comments are completely personal option and I may have made a mistake or two as I don't have direct experience with every car here. Some of my statements come from other people in the industry who work with different brands.

    One thing to remember, you have multiple chains of people recommending the Sorento for a reason.

    • [Deactivated] on 27/05/2017 - 08:43

      You 'work in the industry' but recommend a G wagon for space? Clearly you've never been in one, because they are tiny inside. So much bs in this thread, as with every ozbargain car thread, all the armchair experts who know nothing about cars, come out and tell you how good the rubbish car they just bought is, and all the 'industry experts' come out and tell lies like they are facts. Ok second thoughts, maybe you do work in the industry.

      • This Guy on 28/05/2017 - 20:16
        +1

        You are right. We had a 2014 and I didn't really pay it much attention other than it was huge. Looking up spec's it is tiny.

  • justaperson on 24/05/2017 - 09:45

    Go for the Renault Koleos Privilege, its built entirely on the X-Trail platform with very few mechanical differences, plus comes with 5 year warranty. Very reliable, solid cars with a much nicer interior than the CX-9. Also has longer service intervals than the Mazda.

    • Colombian on 24/05/2017 - 14:50
      +1

      Renaults with nicer interior than Mazdas? It must be in a parallel world as I haven't seen tha first Renault with nice interior at all.

      • [Deactivated] on 27/05/2017 - 08:46

        What world do you live in where you think a Mazda has a nice interior?

        • Colombian on 27/05/2017 - 11:59

          I DO think Mazda's interiors are nice.

        • [Deactivated] on 27/05/2017 - 12:39

          @Colombian: you need to go in an actual nice car then

  • MCCS on 24/05/2017 - 11:10
    +2

    kia Sorrento! Can't beat 7 years warranty and capped service.

    • [Deactivated] on 27/05/2017 - 08:46
      +1

      Well you can, with a better car.

      • MCCS on 06/06/2017 - 14:14

        Who else gives 7 years?

        • [Deactivated] on 06/06/2017 - 18:03

          Who cares. It's a Kia.

  • theone4u on 24/05/2017 - 15:05
    +2

    IZUZU MU-X = 7 seats-4x4 capabilities-powerful diesel engine and with good reputation

    Mitsubishi Pajero Sport = 7 seats- 4x4 capabilities- plenty of space

  • sv123 on 24/05/2017 - 15:15

    Pajero (not Pajero Sport if you don't like the look, just the regular Gen 4 Paj) - 3rd row seats fold down into the floor, so you still have the boot space. It's a great feature.

    • [Deactivated] on 27/05/2017 - 08:47

      Why would you recommend the OP buy a 20 year old car?

      • sv123 on 29/05/2017 - 14:04

        I mean Pajero NX MY17 models. I don't think you know what you're talking about.

        • [Deactivated] on 29/05/2017 - 17:09

          The car is ancient. The Model doesnt matter.

        • sv123 on 31/05/2017 - 10:30

          @Burnertoasty: 2017 built model ancient? I think you need to do some research. I'll leave you to it.

        • [Deactivated] on 31/05/2017 - 19:31
          -1

          @sv123: Yeah, I don't get what is hard about this concept. The car was built this year. The car was designed and first built 20 years ago. It's a piece of crap.

        • whooah1979 on 01/06/2017 - 00:20
          +1

          @Burnertoasty:

          Gen four was introduced in 2006.

        • whooah1979 on 01/06/2017 - 00:23
          +1

          @Burnertoasty:
          There is nothing wrong with a 20 year old design as long as the original was a good one. It can then be tweaked every few years to correct any design faults.

        • [Deactivated] on 01/06/2017 - 06:47
          -1

          @whooah1979: which is 11 years ago and that was an update of the previous gen. Ancient.

        • [Deactivated] on 01/06/2017 - 06:48
          -1

          @whooah1979: BS. Cars move on rapidly.

        • [Deactivated] on 01/06/2017 - 08:08

          @Burnertoasty: Better not tell Porsche that.

        • [Deactivated] on 01/06/2017 - 08:29

          @4sure: generations of Porsche may look the same but they aren't the same

        • whooah1979 on 01/06/2017 - 09:52

          @Burnertoasty:

          Cars move on rapidly.

          The Lc j70 is as ancient as it gets. Yet still as durable and reliable today as it has been for decades.

        • whooah1979 on 01/06/2017 - 09:55

          @Burnertoasty:

          which is 11 years ago and that was an update of the previous gen. Ancient.

          So in your opinion, which seven seater isn't ancient and worth buying?

        • sv123 on 01/06/2017 - 11:33

          @Burnertoasty: 20 year ago model is completely different. Suspension, chassis, engine, trans - everything. Even just taking into account the Gen 4 (2006 - current), they may look the same, but the early ones had a completely different transmission. They are a very capable and reliable 4wd. I'm going to go with you have no idea with what you're talking about, and for some reason you carry on like you do.

        • whooah1979 on 01/06/2017 - 13:51

          @sv123:

          I'm going to go with you have no idea with what you're talking about, and for some reason you carry on like you do.

          Burnertoasty posts seems to knock jap made vehicles in favour of jeep and euro brands.

        • [Deactivated] on 01/06/2017 - 14:18

          @sv123: Wow, they changed he gearbox once In a decade? My mistake. The drivetrain is miles behind a European equivalent on economy or power, the ancient chassis is cumbersome on the outside yet tiny on the inside. The dated interior is something straight out of the 1990s. Only a fool would buy a Pajero these days.

        • [Deactivated] on 01/06/2017 - 14:19

          @whooah1979: Even the current LandCruiser is a joke technologically when compared to a similarly priced Range Rover Sport

        • whooah1979 on 01/06/2017 - 14:31

          @Burnertoasty:
          Is the rrs a seven seater? The j200 is.

          $100k for a rrs and the best they can do is 5+2. Shame.

        • sv123 on 01/06/2017 - 15:07

          @Burnertoasty: The Pajero's tech may not be the latest but it is proven and reliable, same as other Japanese built 4wds (Patrol/LandCruiser). No body in the AUS 4wd community would take a Range Rover Sport with about a million electronic sensors and computer controlled systems near a puddle let alone off-road somewhere remote. I don't think you've been 4wding before either, clearly.

        • [Deactivated] on 01/06/2017 - 16:26

          @sv123: I own a 4wd. With low range, muddies and rear diff. People can and do take Range Rovers off road. They are expensive, but they certainly work off road.

        • [Deactivated] on 01/06/2017 - 16:27

          @whooah1979: No one spends $100k on a sport. A decent one's RRP is $150k, you can pick one up in the $130ks. Same as a Sahrara.

        • Euphemistic on 02/06/2017 - 08:23

          @Burnertoasty: Long model runs is typical for 4wd vehicles. They need to be built tough, reliable, capable. Look at most passenger vehicles to, the model runs can be quite long, but it typically isn't as noticeable because there is more incentive to hide the minor upgrades with a new bumper and dash to make it feel modern.

          Most people who want a proper 4wd don't care if it looks a bit older as long as it is capable of doing what they want. Just because the body shape and chassis have remained the same doesn't mean the engine etc hasnt received updates, just not reinventing the wheel.

        • [Deactivated] on 02/06/2017 - 17:12

          @Euphemistic: The Landcruiser 4.5 V8 put out less power than European 3.0 6 cylinders upon release. A 5kw mid life power increase doesn't cut the mustard.

        • Euphemistic on 03/06/2017 - 07:34

          @Burnertoasty: but what off roader or caravan tower is going to pick a euro over a land Cruiser?

          They are built for a purpose, and are great for what they do. I can imagine that a low stress 4.5 V8 will run a lot longer than a 3.0 6cyl putting out the same power. Land cruisers often get up to 500,000km

        • [Deactivated] on 03/06/2017 - 08:26

          @Euphemistic: Ah I see the problem here. Smart people buy Range Rovers and stay in hotels. They trade their cars in at 100,000km. Cashed up bogans buy caravans and buy Landcruisers. I mean you can't really tow your wake boarding boat behind anything other than a Landcruiser or a Hilux. To do so would cost you many Bundy and Cokes around the camp fire.

  • Rocket on 24/05/2017 - 16:29
    +1

    Very happy with the Toyota Kluger.

    Been bulletproof for our family.

  • Jnr202 on 24/05/2017 - 16:43
    -3

    Captiva 7?

    • spy on 25/05/2017 - 13:41
      +3

      Craptiva

  • R4 on 24/05/2017 - 16:54

    I would never own a car that has seats that are effectively in the boot - far too dangerous in the event of a collision from the rear. And that's where the owner usually puts the little kids………

    • Euphemistic on 01/06/2017 - 11:46

      …because the little kids can get squashed into a smaller space than an adult without getting hurt.

  • Rizzy on 24/05/2017 - 17:48

    Toyota Fortuner GXL
    3L Turbo Diesel. Torque is very good and chassis is solid! I have done a out 30k km. So far so good.

    Let me know if you're in Vic. Bloke in Peterson Cheney Toyota is a top bloke he gave me a ripper of a deal.

    • PinzVidz on 25/05/2017 - 17:36

      Err… Fortuner runs the 2.8 litre 1GD-FTV, not the old 3.0 litre 1KD-FTV. But a good suggestion anyways. Crusade is $57K drive away at the moment, consider it over the GXL, primarily to get away from those horrible black steel rims.

      Kodiaq suggested earlier in this thread would be worth considering as well.

      • Rizzy on 26/05/2017 - 11:27

        oh sh!t. I don't know why i thought 3L. Definitely 2.8L. I think Crusade is a bit of a waste but then 57K on a new Crusade is pretty good.

  • drphani4u on 24/05/2017 - 18:33
    +2

    Definitely recommend Kia Sorento- Around that budget you would get the top model (GT or Platinum)

  • Shiny Mew on 24/05/2017 - 18:44

    Given that you're seeking a SUV and not a more rational option for those whose only unique requirement is seven seats which may be more rationally catered for via a wagon or people mover, what are you towing/what kind of ground clearance do you require?

  • Vieira4 on 24/05/2017 - 18:55
    +2

    Go with the mazda. People suggesting Prado's, Isuzu's and Pajeros - these will not compare on road with the CX9. They are all truck chassis that handle like barges on road. If you are not going offroad, do not go for these. The mazda will be way smoother and carlike to drive, as opposed to trucks.

  • akma1 on 24/05/2017 - 19:31

    I was wondering if anyone knows which 7 seater SUV has anchors/isofix points for baby car seats for the 3rd row?

    • negger on 25/05/2017 - 08:13

      Cx-9

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