Enough Now, What to Do to Lose Weight

I am tired of being FAT all my life!

With all these pizza/Krispy creme/7-eleven deals etc, I am becoming fatter day by day.

I can't give up food, I can't starve which is my weakness.

I just need a 1 line tip from Ozbargainers to reduce weight.

Thanks

UPDATE 1: Thanks so much Ozbargain - I am overwhelmed by the response.

You are such an awesome community. Helping a stranger out. I got several PM's as well. The world is an awesome place.

Today is my Day 3 without sugar and Day 2 of Food logging. Been a tiring day and I am sure worth it.

Comments

  • +112

    You are fat because you want a one line answer to your problems. It doesn't exist.

      • +203

        Eat less food and do more exercise

        • +1

          one word , so deep

        • +9

          if you are after a one liner this is it. i was always overweight as a child, loss a lot of weight during my uni days, then put it slowly back after starting work. i have loss a fair bit of weight recently, it requires self control, knowing how much food your body actually needs, weaning yourself of all the processed crap and enjoy eating real food. doing exercise (in particular weights) helps too though probably not as much as most people think.

        • +1

          @Finde:

          Kinda true but weights are great at the long term. Building muscle means more mass and more calories (Plus you do burn calories while you do it)

          So yeah short term weights are pretty useless but long term they are amazing. It's best to combined both cardio and weights for best results.

        • +4

          Replace 1 or 2 meals per day with country ladle soup minestrone or garden vegetable.
          Buy it when on special and you will save money as well.
          win win

          oh and cut down on sugar

          and fat

          and find something you like doing that gets you moving then do it a few times a week.

        • +10

          Eat less food and do more exercise

          It's not what people want to hear, but this is the answer.

          It's simple.

          Calories in < Calories out = weight loss.

          It will take time. Perhaps a long time. And a lot of patience. But if you can keep your discipline, you will eventually get results.

          If you hate going to the gym, look for a part time job that involves physical work (e.g. lifting heavy things). After a few months those KGs will naturally come off, and it's all for free. It's better than gym, because you're not paying for it, and you're going to be there for a lot longer than a gym session, so you won't just be able to slack off after 30 mins. "I've done enough for today." Those excuses will be taken away from you, and there will be no obstacles.

          It worked for me. In a few months, I went from overweight to underweight.

        • @lostn: Good advice. It's also worth keeping in mind that the faster you lose it the faster it'll come back if you stop, especially with diets (not that you mentioned any). Everyone is different so different things work for different people, if you're in bad shape physical labour might not be the way to start off with though. I agree with your comment otherwise.

        • @Finde: Thanks, yeah my gym trainer told me to do cardio. But agree with others saying that doing weights build up stamina. So will go for a mix of both, but for now, more cardio.

        • +1

          @shane_au: Cheers. Yes, sugar is the main culprit. I have started cofee without sugar. Eventually will give up cofee too.. Taking baby steps.

        • @lostn: Wow, that's a good idea. Unfortunately, my work is very sedentary and no its full-time so I can't look for other physical part time jobs :/

        • @decr: Yes, done with those diets, I have put an extra 2-3 kilos than before lol

        • @kefa: I struggle to believe lifting weights is the best (or even a particularly good) form of exercise for losing weight… As part of a balanced routine to improve general strength and fitness certainly, but specifically to lose weight?

          I'm happy to be proven wrong if you've read that in a study somewhere etc, but it just sounds absurd to me!

        • @callum9999: why does it sound absurd? if you lift weights it takes calories to do that. if you want to burn more calories either do more reps or do more sets. the other benefit of weights is that the more muscle you put on the higher your Resting Metabolic Rate (RMR) will be. this means you body will burn more calories even when you are not working out. do some research on google plenty of information out there.

        • +1

          @decr: I was in bad shape physically. I got a job in a warehouse picking some pretty heavy things. I did this from 5PM to 8 or 9PM, after uni. I needed money at the time so it was a good fit. I was lifting things 25kg, and lots of it. It was really tough in the beginning. My muscles ached all over for a few days until I adjust to it.

          But after a month I lost about 8kg, despite eating fast food regularly, and eating a lot. I actually gained a lot of muscle from this, and in spite of muscle being much heavier than fat, I had lost 8-10kg after the first month. I was around 78-80kg when I started. After a month I was about 68kg but looked normal weight (if not for the added muscle, I would have been lighter). I got a free workout 5 days a week.

          After about 6 months of doing this while continuing to eat Hungry Jacks and Nandos a lot, I eventually dropped to 61kg and was actually very gaunt. When I quit, I started losing my muscle over time and eventually some of the KGs came back, though never to the point where I'd be considered overweight. A month at the gym doing only cardio lost me 8kg again. It could be that I just have good metabolism. The PT said that this is hard to do, and I myself wasn't expecting results like that. For the next half year, I saw no real further weight loss, so I quit the gym until the weight came back a few years later, and then repeated it again. You are meant to maintain it to stay healthy and keep those kilos off but I was happy where I was.

          As you said though, everyone's body is different and the results will differ from person to person. If you're a woman, I obviously wouldn't recommend getting a job where you lift 25kg at a time. Consider a job where you will always be on your feet and don't get to sit down. If you work in retail you'll be walking around all the time. My fitness tracker showed me walking more than 10km a day, somedays over 16km.

          You're right that if you don't maintain your regimen, you will eventually gain those KGs back. But once you see results you're proud of, naturally it will make you want to change your diet and lifestyle permanently. After I quit, I decided to lay off the junk food, and cut HJ's down to occasional treats. I kept out of the chips, biscuits, and candy aisles of the supermarkets and all sugary drinks. I didn't miss that stuff all that much to be honest.

          If you have a real job though, the problem is of course going to be time. Getting a second job would be a sacrifice of your free time, and to a lot of people this is asking too much. The alternative is to exercise, but the discipline is in your hands, unlike a job you can be fired from. The statistics for gym membership are not good. Many will buy a yearly pass but give up going and then end up wasting their money. No one can make you go. It's best to go with your partner or friend(s) who go at the same time as you so that they can drag you along if you're feeling lazy, and to enjoy being there a bit more.

          The motivation to do it is down to you.

          As people have already stressed many times, there's no easy way to lose weight. It takes time, motivation and discipline. It's going to be hard work, so if you want it, you're going to have to be prepared to put in the hard yards. It will require time sacrifices, and it's up to the individual to decide whether it's worth it.

          Doing exercise is hard. But controlling your diet and keeping bad foods out is not so hard. You can at least do one out of the two things and it will still be an improvement. If you can't exercise, at least stop drinking coke and stick to water. Cut out chocolate and candy, and this will be even better. As a bonus this stuff is also bad for your teeth, so by cutting them out of your diet, you're helping protect your teeth.

          Best of luck to anyone trying to lose weight. Unfortunately there's no pill or easy panacea for weight loss so don't believe anybody trying to sell one.

        • @kefa: Then why do virtually no doctors or specialists ever suggest weightlifting for losing weight above cardio?

          I didn't say it doesn't do anything at all. I said I struggle to believe it's better than cardio - and I still do.

        • @callum9999: End of the day losing weight is 80% what you eat. You can lose weight doing no exercise at all. I find weights help the most because it increases your resting burn rate even when you are not working out and it helps you get toned. As for doctors and specialists - are these the same guys who told us to eat high carbs/low fat diets and that eating more than one egg a day was going to kill you? unless these guys have gone through the process of actually losing weight then they are just reading something out of a textbook written by a guy who works for the fast food industry.

        • @kefa: End of the day, you're stating what you LIKE to do as being fact for everyone. It's not. It's common knowledge that cardio is generally better at burning calories than lifting weights, and it's fairly obvious why.

          Of course if you're trying to lose weight then odds are you also want to build strength, which lifting weights will do much better than cardio will as you say, but that doesn't make it the superior fat loss method. Though given you're a person who believes doctors just read from textbooks written by fast food executives, I'm not sure there's much reasoning with you so this is pointless to continue!

        • @callum9999: dude relax this is an internet forum where people can just post their opinions. what works for some people may not work for others. however there are studies that shows weight training is more effective in helping people lose weight than doing aerobics.

      • -7

        Why am I being negged here?

        • +7

          Ketogenic Diet.

          Good luck with less than 50 grams of carbs per day. Definitely works. Can be dangerous.

        • +19

          @kywst: can confirms it works, can also confirm you will be prepared to sell your own mother for a biscuit after a week.

        • +2

          Just like your diet, you're expect the minimum of effort.

        • +4

          Why am I being negged here?

          Probably because you sound weak and pathetic:

          I am tired of it.

        • @stormii: You get cravings for the first month, once you get over that hump, your body settles and you no longer need that sugar rush.

        • @kywst: I've been doing about 20grams of carbs per day for the last 40days

          No ill effects - apart from a slight headache for the first week due to losing electrolytes, fixed with lightly salted water and lemon

          I've lost 10kg already

        • +1

          @nobarginsarehere: Wow, I am starting Himalayan salt water from tomorrow onwards, it seems it helps.

        • @ozzyoi: The lightly(!) salted water is only to fix the headache from losing carbs (they hold a lot of water)

          Read here for more information: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto

        • @nobarginsarehere: Got it, still in a dilemma to do keto or not. Looks hard.

        • +3

          @ozzyoi: If you want results, you are going to have to change your lifestyle

          I took SO MUCH FOOD to the salvos when I started

          The first 1-2 weeks are the worst as your body wants carbs to function and has yet to enter ketogenesis (burning fat instead of carbs)

          40days in, down 10kg (I was 100kg), feeling great, heaps of energy now my body is using fat as fuel instead of carbs, zero exercise apart from my daily walking around

          DO NOT EAT BREAD. This will be the hardest thing to give up (at least for me). I'm trying to consume 20-30grams of carbs per day. 1x Slice of Bread has 15grams of carbs.

          You have to give it to subway, they have convinced people a whole loaf of bread for lunch is healthy haha

        • @ozzyoi: Also, start reading the nutritional information on the backs of things

          Don't worry about calories too much, total carbs is what you want to know

          I eat a shit ton of bacon, eggs etc now and im going down in weight

        • @nobarginsarehere: Yes I have been having subway since Jan as a healthy substitute, but Nah, bread is not that healthy anymore aye. I am looking at Keto now. Cheers nobarginsarehere

        • @ozzyoi: My old favorite was a BMT

          https://www.subway.com.au/menu/traditional-subs/italian-bmt

          Carbs = 40grams of carbs per 6", so 80grams of carbs for a footlong

          And their sneaky, that's with no cheese, on wheet, no sauce
          Tick those options on down the bottom and it's 45grams of carbs per 6"

          Even their vegie delight (healthy option lol) is 42grams once I tick on what I like, that's because meats or cheese have no carbs

        • @nobarginsarehere: Awesome. Good result. Most people will be just fine but it's always a good idea to run drastic changes over with your doctor.

        • @ozzyoi: If you are really going to do Keto, which by the sounds of it you are going to, do look into the side effects. The big problem with a lot of potential side effects for keto diet (at least what is suggested) is, side effects will occur in the long run, whereas weight loss is almost immediate. That also makes studying side effects very difficult. A lot of the studies would be hard to apply to general population due to sample size, duration of study, difference in people's activity and age group (young epilipsy patients vs people who are on diet) and more. So it has potential side effects and they are not well studied. So be wary at least.

          Other than those potential long term side effects, ketoacidosis is possible (especially if you have undiagnosed diabetes) so I'd at least track the ketone level for a bit at the very least (or see a doctor beforehand).

          Anyways, good luck.

        • @ozzyoi: Avoid Keto. It's the mother-load of bad advice. You will lose weight on Keto - if you eat a caloric deficit - which you can do not eating keto too. Fatty foods are so high in calories that you don't even feel full after eating 500 calories unless you also cram in a lot of low carb veges. Even then… get used to feeling hungry.

          Most people will tell you how much they lost in the first few months, ignoring the rest. The first months consists of almost entirely water weight loss, muscle wastage and a small amount of fat loss. As soon as you stray from keto, your insulin resistance is completely ruined (from intramyocellular lipids) and a few meals of carbs will make you feel shocking, add weight back on thus reinforcing the idea that carbs make you fat and are bad for you. Advice from internet experts is usually to stay on keto/low carb diets forever to combat this. How long do you think you will live flooding your arteries in saturated fats and avoiding highly nutritious foods like fruit and most vegetables since single serves of these easily exceed your 30g carb limit?

      • +9

        I need a short concise 1 line tip which Ozbargainers follow.

        Develop self-control.

      • +1

        Think your problem is you doing things digitally. There are no shortcuts when it comes to nutrition. Common mantra is calories in - calories out = weight loss ergo eat less to lose more. Improve the fuel you put in your body. Limit or give up junk food. Keep eating out to a minimum. Use smaller plates and control portion sizes. Keep carbs to a minimum ( don't eat 7 slices of bread). Don't eat at night.

        As for the physical, try getting a fitness tracker and doing some cardio like walking

        • +2

          Yes u r right, I am giving up bread from tomorrow onwards, and planning to have dinner by 7p

      • +1

        Here you are… "DO IT!"

        • +1

          On it mate! Cheers

      • +5

        The only thing you need and probably lacking is Motivation. If it's not there, you can try all you want and nothing will work, you will get easily tempted, and find excuses to justify it all. Here's what I did, may or may not help you. I was 81kg one and half months ago, now I am 75, losing about 1kg per week.

        1: Download the app "MyFitnessPal". Make a goal of not eating more than 800-1000 calories per day, no matter what!.. this is the only motivation you need.
        2: Try to buy food with bar codes so you can scan using the app, or if you are eating veggies/fruit, measure it on kitchen scale and add it manually.
        3: Cut all sugary drinks, soft drinks, energy drinks, whatever, they add on so many calories and appear harmless, but your 20% of calories probably come from drinks. I still drink zero sugar/sugar free energy drinks or coke zero. (Oh and I didn't quit alcoholic drinks. You may if you like).
        4: Cut meals small in portion but heavy in calories (desserts, donuts etc). Switch to proteins (boiled eggs, tuna, chicken etc.). Meals rich in proteins are proven to fill you up while being low in calories.
        5: If you feel full, but still have a half plate left, don't finish it. Don't think about all the hungry kids and how you are wasting food, leave your morals, justification and guilt behind. Right now you are the only thing that matters and you are beautiful :). If anything, save that half plate to eat later.
        6: Check your weight daily and update it in the app. It will show you weight lose graphs and progress, which will motivate you even further.
        7: Don't believe in mumbo jumbo and weight lose shakes and miracle pills and magic teas, it's ALL BULLSH!T. I repeat, ALL BULLSH!T. Don't waste money on that crap.
        8: I don't exercise at all. But depending on how fast you may want to lose weight, may be do some exercise.
        9: First 2 days on 800 calorie diet is going to haunt you like hell, but I promise and saying from experience, only 2 days will be hard. After that you won't get hungry as often and will start feeling full after small meals.
        10: I still eat out or drink beers sometimes on weekends or friday nights, but I still keep my limit at 2,000 - 2,500 calories and no more than 2 days a week.
        11: Key is sticking to the plan, and limiting calories! that's it.

        PLEASE NOTE: According to nutritionists average recommended calories for adult males is 1,500 and females is 1,200. It's not recommended to go lower but I wanted to lose weight fast. You can still eat 1,500 and will lose weight, just at a slower pace. Hope this helps!

        EDIT: One line tip: Limit calories to 800-1000, you will starve for only 2 days. (or limit to 1,500 calories if you want to do it the healthy way, will starve for 2 days, then body will get used to it. Will lose weight at slower pace than 800 calories).

        • +13

          I don't know where you received your average calorie intake facts from, but they are incorrect and suggesting to someone to eat only 800 calories per day is pretty stupid! Please check facts before giving advise, too may people rely on hear say without doing proper research.

          The below link provided a good indication of how many calories you should be consuming per day and it relates it to age and whether you're active or not.

          http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/estimated-calorie-require…

        • +2

          @Mick83: You are right, I meant to say minimum recommended, (not average recommended) is 1,500 to lose weight. I never suggested that 800 is healthy, hence why I said eat minimum of 1,500 if you want to do it the healthier way. Your link doesn't take height and current weight into account, small people need less calories and tall people need more, and how much weight they are currently carrying. According to my height/gender/weight/activity level, to maintain my weight, I need on average around 2,000 - 2,200 calories, any more and I will be gaining weight. You can use online calculators (based on age,gender,height,weight,activity level) on few websites to get an average, only one website will not give accurate information, and 1,500 is recommended minimum. any lower than that is not healthy.

        • +1

          I wouldnt do a low calorie diet without help from a nutritionist (even though their 500 cal a day thing is ridiculous)

        • +2

          5: If you feel full, but still have a half plate left, don't finish it. Don't think about all the hungry kids and how you are wasting food, leave your morals, justification and guilt behind. Right now you are the only thing that matters and you are beautiful :). If anything, save that half plate to eat later.

          ^^^^
          this

          I used to eat at the food courts for lunch everyday, the usual "3 dish + fried rice" kind of deal, and ask them to give me extra on everything :)

          now, I still eat there, but have it as take away instead, only eat half the box, and save the other half for dinner/the next day.

          first few days were hard to get used to and I was very tempted to finnish the other half off, but now, half a box seems normal to me. One time I did tried eating the full plate + extras again just to see how that would go, and I felt like puking for the rest of the day………..

        • Thanks for your time, I have downloaded the app now. Will start from today.

        • @Mick83: thats a good table there. So I should be getting around 2200. Thx

      • +5

        Biochemistry graduate here.

        To be as simplistic as possible: the single, most important tip that will solve most of your problems:

        Cut right down on sugars and refined carbohydrates in foods.

        Secondary to that:

        Learn to cook food that you love. If you make everything you eat from scratch, and stick to whole, unprocessed foods as much as possible, then you don't need worry too much about numbers. It's much harder to reach the kind of energy intake you get with takeaway foods when you're eating homemade food only.

        On a serious note, you need to know that being very overweight is incredibly dangerous. Inflammation in your cells is buliding up to a level that puts you on the path to a lifetime of chronic disease. In some parts of sydney, dedicated centres are needing to be built for amputations relating to type II diabetes, because the demand is now too high for hospitals to keep up.

        I don't want to scare you but the situation can be extremely serious. The sooner you address this the better.

        Good luck and there are a huge number of resources available to you on the web. Reddit has a lot of places that are good to start.

        • +2

          I like to make cakes from scratch though :D

        • @smashed: Haha so do I. I think they taste better anyway, and I usually substitute in some almond meal and wholemeal spelt flour instead of white flour. Also like to do a 50/50 sugar/stevia mix. I don't cut back on the fat but I might sub in butter or coconut oil instead of other vegetable oils. Classic baked cheesecake is my favourite thing to make.

        • // On a serious note, you need to know that being very overweight is incredibly dangerous. Inflammation in your cells is buliding up to a level that puts you on the path to a lifetime of chronic disease. In some parts of sydney, dedicated centres are needing to be built for amputations relating to type II diabetes, because the demand is now too high for hospitals to keep up.

          I don't want to scare you but the situation can be extremely serious. The sooner you address this the better.//

          Thanks I need that fear in my life right now.

        • @ozzyoi: I'm sorry.. I don't want to scare you. I just want you to know that now is the time to address it, and it sounds like you really want to… so, you're on the right track. Diabetes is a horrible disease to get, and is affecting an ever larger proportion of our population. I would hate for you to get sick.

      • +1

        Cut the carbs and ALL sugar and fructose from your diet. Replace with fat as your major source of energy. Butter, cream, bacon, meat and vegetables. Remember its a marathon, not a sprint. If you follow it strictly you will lose on average a kilo per week.

        • -8

          You wont be do any marathon if you cut your carbs out of your diet..

          The fat you eat is the fat you wear..

        • +1

          This is true, I lost heaps of weight doing this and no exercise needed. Just understand that you do need a little carbs but you will get them without trying :)

        • +5

          @chudson: Actually fat isn't unhealthy, the body needs it. Sugar and refined carbohydrates are the enemy.

        • @chudson: If fat was the problem, then all these people eating low fat and diet foods with be thin

          But they arent loaded with Sugar (carbs), which is the problem

        • @mishrael: Some fats are definitely bad, such as refined seed oils. Healthy fats are the kinds loaded with omega-3s, such as oily fish, avocado, certain types of raw nuts..

      • Life Style Change.

        Burn more calories then you eat. To lose weight target 1500 calories per day (after burning off the excess)

        Dont Diet !! ever!! (very important)

        dont expect overnight change but keep persisting with good eating and life style choices and it will happen.

        Stay away from all form of processed sugar, complex carbs are not that bad as long as they are taken in moderation.

        Lift weights. Instead of Cardio I'd recommend HIIT (more effective from what I've read).

        Stay away from the weighing machine, check for fat body percentage change instead (when you work out you'll gain muscle which might mean that the scales wont change immdedately, dont be discouraged by that ).

        Hope this helps

      • Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.

    • +6

      "Put down the fork"

    • +1

      Stop putting food in your mouth

    • +3

      "You are fat because you want a one line answer to your problems. It doesn't exist."

      Yes it does, it's very simple:

      EAT LESS THAN YOUR BODY NEEDS.

      That's literally all there is to weight loss.

    • FDH - we say in German - friss die halfte - eat half or what you are eating now

  • +9

    Don't take this as stating the obvious, but it really is as simple as:

    Get more exercise, eat less/better.

    If the eating less part doesn't sound good, I can say from experience that once you start exercising regularly and start to get fitter it really does seem to come naturally. At least it did for me. 6 months in to going for walks or runs almost every day, I was eating half of what I used to eat, and never felt like I was starving myself.

    Starting is the hardest part. But it does get easier if you keep at it.

  • +14

    Eat less energy than you use.

    You can play around with foods that don't tend to be digested etc., but in the end that's what you have to do. Do exercise as well as eating less energy, and if you have a Krispy creme, know what extra exercise you have to do to burn it off, and do it.

    • Yep, it's as simple as that.

      I recommend using a weight loss/calorie calculator to work out how many calories to eat daily. Set a reasonable weekly goal of weight loss and go for it.

  • +2

    Portion control. Substitute less energy dense foods for high energy foods. Exercise.

  • +8

    Tapeworm

    • +1

      what is tapeworm?

      • +11

        It's a parasite that lives in your intestine and robs your body of nutrition.

        • +5

          Or, if you're Donald Trump, it lives in your brain and eats your intelligence!

        • +1

          And that's probably the most tasteful way to describe it. A+.

      • +1

        Not a serious suggestion. A parasite that can make you very sick.

  • +1

    Just stop eating shit. And run. Problem solved /end thread.

    • +6

      Depending on how heavy OP is, running might be bad for the knees. It's the highest impact cardio there is for the knees.

      I recommend that you start with walking, ellipticals, stairmasters (best), or cycling. But if you only want to run, then running is better than nothing at all.

      • Yes, am 100+ running might do more harm than good.

        • +9

          Swimming. Tones the body and low impact.

        • -5

          Stop being lazy. I know a 100kg+ who ran a marathon.

        • @Burnertoasty:No,they are not lazy, they are 100 years old.

        • -5

          @altomic: Swimming is the worst sport for loosing weight. It stimulates the appetite, and you feel very hungry when you get out of the pool, to such an extent that you eat more afterwards then you burned in the water.

        • +2

          @cameldownunder: This post is a world of wrong, but I'll start with the basics. Then ≠ than.

        • @cameldownunder: your comment is the worst. so what if you feel hungry? don't eat too much. have a light and healthy snack. have a protein shake.

          contender for stupid comment of the month

        • -1

          @Burnertoasty: When you cannot criticize the content, you have to criticize the form. Right?

        • -6

          @altomic: It's not, but let me put into simple words for simple minds: The calories you burn swimming, you mostly gain them back and more by eating afterwards. The feeling of hunger is coming from swimming. Burning the same amount of calories walking, makes you less hungry then swimming. Do you understand this?

        • @cameldownunder: ok, so you might feel hungrier after swimming than walking so maybe the really really important thing to remember is: don't eat too much after swimming

          Do you understand this?

        • +1

          @Burnertoasty: *losing

        • @cameldownunder: Your post is based off anecdotal evidence and not supported by science. It's not even worth addressing. Your spelling and grammar on the other hand, is.

        • @Burnertoasty: that rustled my jimmies as well

        • @cameldownunder: Swimming is a fantastic exercise. You burn energy by moving, and you burn more energy simply by being in the cold water.

          Have you seen what the elite swimmers eat? More than I ever could, and they are lean as.

          You're right though, you need to restrain yourself from binging too hard after a session.

        • @Burnertoasty:
          http://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2016-02-17/swimming-can-be…
          "If you want to lose weight, you're better off walking around a pool than swimming in it," according to Sydney exercise physiologist and personal trainer Andrew Cate."

          http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/answered-questions/swimming-g…
          "One study found that people who swim in cold water may consume more calories post-workout than people who swim in warmer water. So if you're swimming primarily to lose weight, make sure that you aren't inadvertently consuming unneeded calories during post-workout snacks and meals.

          But you keep on going about the grammar and syntax. I'd rather speak and write 4 languages OK ( OK according to you) then one excellent.

        • @cameldownunder: Holy shit. Again.

        • -1

          @abb: They only do swimming, right? NO !
          There is a lot of "out of the water"
          http://www.sportingnews.com/au/other-sports/news/what-does-a…

          "A post-grad male sprinter, for example, won't train nearly as many hours as a distance swimmer, and the type of training they'll do will be strength and power based, focusing a lot on out-of-the-water training."

          "[…] in the afternoons we'd do an hour or so of "dryland" (medicine balls, core work, running, stretch cords, various other forms of land-torture) before getting into the pool. We were never in the pool longer than 2-2.5 hours. (Trust me, it's plenty.) I'm sure the older guys were supplementing with weightlifting, but it wasn't something that everyone did or needed to do."

        • @Burnertoasty: Your contribution content = 0 ( Zero )

        • @altomic: If someone is after losing weight, why chose the hard way? Walk it off, and hunger less, for the same result.

        • @cameldownunder: i regret that I only 5 negs to give (in a 24 hour period)

          ok, so now you're quoting professional athletes as a source to justify a position regarding walking over swimming for "everyday" people.

        • @altomic: No, I'm answering to "Have you seen what the elite swimmers eat? More than I ever could, and they are lean as."

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