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PAULINE Hanson will be appearing at the Paddington Alehouse in Mt Hawthorn this Thursday night, for an evening dubbed ‘Pots and Pizzas with Pauline’.
*The event description said Ms Hanson would be shouting “free pizza and the first 100 drinks”.
[WA] Free Pizza & Beer @ Paddington Ale House (Mount Hawthorn - Thursday from 6:30pm)
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Please Explain?
One nation are making a big play for WA. Brendan Grylls, the leader of the Nats holds the seat of Pilbara. He supports an increase in royalties which is very unpopular. I think at least one mining company has even changed the screen savers if all its employees to bash this policy. I believe PH is supposed to go to the Pilbara to support the ON candidate, David Archibald. Our state election here in WA is Saturday.
Just for fun, Jc, I suggest you google david Archibald one nation. If you get too many results perhaps add in the search terms "single mums/mothers lazy ugly"
"Gays"Let me know what you think, if you like.
Who is Jc?
Sorry, I meant jv
Here's a link to an article on ON in WA. The video in the article is amusing.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4295510/Pauline-Hans…
My goodness, I'm lost for words! I don't support PH but I'd hate to see her leave politics - it's just way too funny!
alot of people confuse nationalism with racism…
and some people can be both
Neither are anything to be proud of.
A lot of people confuse nationalism with patriotism. This is the explanation my history teacher gave me some 25 years ago:
- A patriot loves his country
- A nationalist hates other countries
One is constructive, the other leads to war.
word is, it comes with a free side of xenophobia and anti-vaccination enabling
she doesn't know what xenophobia means, remember? cant be xenophonic if she doesn't know what it means
It's people afraid of Nick Xenophon right???
I can say I'm afraid of them Xenomorphs.
The only way to be sure is to nuke them from orbit!
(how sad that ozb members don't get the Alien movie reference)
…cant be xenophonic if she doesn't know what it means
she could xen-phone-a-friendshe doesn't know what xenophobia means,
Literally, it's the opposite of homophobia
Please explain?
You ought to speak English!
I hope no-one turns up with measles. It will spread like wildfire.
I'll be out the front supplying free cartons of eggs
I'll be out front supplying Arab Headdress
I'll be at the front supplying Halal Snack Packs just incase the pizza is shit
Somebody please get her in the face with a pizza….please
If they let us throw pots at her, i'm in.
What's the neg for?
I will get her eggs , Dog poo and Cat poo….. lol.
Free food and entertainment :)
She was too early for her time
Are rotten eggs and vegetables supplied, or is it BYO?
Are Asians and Muslims allowed to attend?
What about culturally indifferent?
Would be hilarious if a whole bunch of ethnics descended, ate and drunk her whole tab then left.
Let's make this happen guys !!
OzB meetup then?
That would be amazing
only if they are homosexual
Free pots of beer and Pauline. What could possibly go wrong?!
Damage limitation. Only 100 free pots😯
I think that's how many are going to rock up. No more, no less.
1 🍺 per supporter - that's not going to be worth watching.
Good luck with the election.
It's our turn next in Queensland. (Our appologies for Pauline😢)
Could be worse, could be Bundy.
Ah yes, Al Bundy and his hard-line No Ma'am Policy.
I remember back in the day when Asians were her problem. I wonder who it will be in another 10 years.
It will depend which group has least economic impact if alienated …..Used to be Asians but we depend on them for trade now ….. And paying our politicians bills aka distriani.
It is hilarious, isn't it. I spoke with one of her supporters and they couldn't even remember when Pauline was banging on about Asians. How long is a xenophobs memory span?
Memory loss is an advantage in politics - when it comes to your own party.
Was handing out how to vote cards as a favour for a friend standing for the Greens. Needed to go to toilet. One Nation offered to hand out Greens cards - & they did a great job. I learnt not all of her supporters are bigoted or close minded - a pleasant discovery.
yeah, I have the same issue with American's who vote GoP. One on one they can be really nice people, but as a group they suck big time. The problem is their views can be so extreme you can't have a sensible discussion on religion, immigration, integration, etc without having to draw up a chair on one side or the other and I'm looking for more of a middle ground. BTW, the niceness can be superficial; you just don't want to discuss anything too deeply. The whole Trump presidency just beggars belief, and his first month has been unbelievable. Given what he was like as a candidate they can't say they weren't warned.
@try2bhelpful:
I've had a Qld Minister of Government as a client in my own business. My old work required really getting to know the person. Was surprised how much I admired him, despite holding very different political views.Interestingly the fervent views of leaders expressed in public (and by their followers) are not necessarily the views they hold privately. It's all a game of whipping up strongly held beliefs in the public to achieve their political & career ends😢 It's all a game, so I don't take it too seriously.
Group think can cause individuals to express more extreme views than they might hold as an individual. They may take on the group's values to fit in & unconsciously behave in stereotypical ways. So the individuals can be nice people, when away from the group. But discuss matters that arouse views of the group, and they will often revert to closed thinking. We all do it to some extent. It always shocks me when I realise I'm behaving without thinking.
Had meetings with National League for Democracy leaders in Myanmar/Burma a few years back. Wonderful talks, but was always concerned they could go out that night & kill their Muslem neighbours.
My political baptism was in Queensland under the corrupt Bjelke-Petersen government. Holding different views, I sometimes had Special Branch (political) Police stationed outside my house 24 hours a day. I learnt how political distractions were used to achieve other aims. I became front page news in a story fabricated to increase Police powers & decrease civil liberties. Pauline reminds me of Joh's "feed the chooks" approach to attracting grass roots support, lacking facts or logic.
I'm glad I'm not an American at the moment😯
@Infidel: You do seem to lead an interesting life. Can certainly see your point, but I am concerned about how many layers there are between what people say and what they actually believe. The ancillary to what you say are the people who seem reasonable until you found out they are members of the KKK and they are just telling you what you want to hear.
The problem with the game is that real vulnerable people are losing out, whilst everyone plays politics.
The world has gone batshit crazy at the moment and is lurching far to the right. Comparing it to the 1930s doesn't seem that much of a stretch whilst you watch government after government raising the drawbridge and the comments of the leaders becoming more and more insular and extreme.
I'm glad I'm not living on the margins in any society at the moment. Not a good time to be poor, sick or considered "the other".
@try2bhelpful:
Yes, people on the margins are usually drawn to strong views & beliefs. If it's not politics, its religion, gambling, drugs, marketing… or all of the above. Authentic thought is a rare commodity.Those views & beliefs have always been there. It's just that more are drawn to them, because they believe they are more marginalised & are more anxious about that belief now. It's sometimes just a belief. They are more likely now to almost exclusively associate only with people who hold the same belief. Its very hard to convince people differently to what they believe, even if it isn't true.
Similar to beliefs in other times of harsh economic changes you refer to.
In the early 1980's I was in Elizabeth SA, when Holden laid off hundreds of workers. I was touring promoting very different work ideas & thinking. Despite being retrenched, workers believed their jobs would return. If only they stayed by their phones, they would get their job back. Unfortunately it never happened. So there was never a possibility of looking at the situation from a different perspective (I was offering). They felt abandoned, they felt hurt, angry - what had happened was not their fault but they were expected to suffer for it. They had so much invested in their choice of work, home, family, community. Very understandable.
Only those with little to lose or financial stability would play with my unproven ideas. (With increased wealth or commitments, comes decreased choice to follow another path - a current dilemma for me.) I don't blame them for taking what seemed the usual & proven path. But when things go wrong, we all like someone to blame & follow the illusion of someone strong to solve them.
Times of uncertainty & change coupled with impressions of weak, ineffective leaders will be used to gain advantage for strong talking politicians who say they can "make (insert country name) great again".
Its easy with 'an education' & a job & prospects - to think others are crazy to hold those beliefs. I certainly used to hold that view. If your circumstances were different, your thinking may be very different. Hello Pauline😯
people who seem reasonable until you found out they are members of the KKK and they are just telling you what you want to hear.
Most people say things to create a better impression of them in the mind of the listener. Trolls may enjoy the negative impression & havic they create. We're not very honest.
Studying traditional storytelling (Rakugo) again in Japan a year ago - I realised how different I was treated (so much nicer) than locals. I felt cheated being praised for my basic attempts - I wanted honesty. It was a disturbing realisation. It's what is expected in that culture.
It is very hard to really know what others truly think. My rice farmer friend has to be very drunk before he expresses himself, but is that really who he is? After many years, I don't think I know him. The outer 'face' is controlled. As almost no one really discusses anything at a meaningful level, Japanese can assume they all think the same. Their thinking is untested, unlike here. It usually conforms to cultural norms & stereotypes. Like all of us.
@Infidel: It is an interesting point about the more financially secure you are the better placed you are to have a more diverse view of the world. However, we also have the other ends of the spectrum - the people who aren't financially well off, but still open their home, and hearts, to improve other people's lives; even at the expense of their own and the financially well off who just want more and more and screw everyone else. I am always disturbed by people who think that benefit recipients are all cheats and lazy; the vast majority are not and finding a job is difficult. I have been very fortunate, my family was lower middle class but University was free and I was bright so I've been able to get a good paying job for most of my life. If not, I could well have been one of those people made redundant and wondering where my mortgage payment, meals, etc were going to come from. My view is I would rather my taxes go towards supporting people then have them rob my house. Maybe a tad naive, but people have inherent dignity and worth. I worked in factories to keep myself going at University. A lot of the women I worked with were bright and funny, they just didn't have the breaks I did. Given your experience where do you see the employment opportunities in Australia?
@try2bhelpful:
I always thought Americans (on the whole) were a stupid people. Voting in Trump proves it even more than when the voted in Bush, who looks very intelligent and reasonable compared to Trumpsky.@Storm: It is interesting that the GoP candidates seem to be getting worse and worse as they are going along since Reagan. The fact they can dredge up a new low is remarkable. The best thing we have going for us is compulsory voting. We do get people like Pauline, but they are generally more marginal. The world is nuts at the moment.
@try2bhelpful:
I'm undecided on compulsory voting. I was all for it, but now I'm leaning towards non-compulsory voting, as you have a lot of people voting for whoever, without knowing any of the policies etc. These thousands of people are worse than the rusted-ons imho. I'd rather only people who actually cared about the political future of the state/country vote, as why should the people who do actually care and take an interest in this privilege, be held to ransom in some cases (when it's tight) by those who don't really care? Especially Senate votes.@Storm: If they don't care they tend to go mainstream; rather than extreme. The American experience, and Brexit, are what happens when only the motivated vote.
@Storm:
Only a minority of people from the USA voted in Trump. Only some people there are registered to vote, and of those - more voted for Hillary.In the Bush2 days, I would meet tracellers from the USA who would apologise explaining "I didn't vote for Bush".
There are many intelligent, caring, wonderful people from the USA, and many countries.
@try2bhelpful:
An important lesson is… we never really can be certain about what we think we believe or know. (I get delight in realising what I believed for so long - is wrong. Its never too late to change.) Being open to new possibilities is a joy of life. (Too many people find that frightening & rush to the seeming certainty of strong beliefs.)That was the basis of my old business - helping people see possibilities they never knew - through the eyes of a child. It changed people. I have posted about my earlier experiences running a business that funded development of people & communities - set up from my experience dumpster diving😯
Trying to help people with little experience except just bumping along the bottom, then working with successful people at the other end of the financial spectrum (a world foreign to me) showed me the effect of differences in outlook learnt early in our lives.
Maybe a tad naive, but people have inherent dignity and worth.
Very honorable. That's what I look for in others😯Money is not the primary limiting factor but experiences and beliefs. I regularly travel overseas, sometimes volunteering in poor communities - it puts our privileged lives in perspective.
I have probably learnt from everyone I've met. Those I've immediately disliked have usually taught me the most (about myself & my hidden prejudices).
Historically those at the ends of the financial spectrum probably had the most success in trying things differently. Poor & rich people have changed the world. To change yourself or change systems, you either have to have little to risk, or enough resources to see you through the bumpy process. Most won't risk what they have.
A person's income or status is not how I assess a persons worth. I simply listen to them. Judging people on what they say (due their experiences) is not really listening to the person, but it's hard not to compare the other with yourself. We're all limited, damaged people, trying to muddle through the best we know
where do you see the employment opportunities in Australia?
That's for futurologists to predict & politicians to promise. Both groups will be wrong. I've almost never worked, rather creating my own businesses & work.My clients paid well for me to tell them not to work so hard. They reduced their work, delegated some out, & reduced their anxiety - becoming even more successful.
I've had a state manager of a multinational sitting on the floor playing as a 5 year old, generating hundreds of millions of dollars of new ideas in minutes… I'd say be open to every new worthwhile experience & live - the best way to sustain your life & family could be in the next experience.
Play at least once a day & break rules that say "Play at least once a day"😀
I am about to celebrate 10 years without any employment, just travelling overseas. I hitchhike, people give me money & food, I give plenty away, I sleep on beaches, and have the most wonderful experiences. People who are dying share their experiences & I help them transition to the unknown. Is there better or more worthwhile "employment" than that? (Those with kids & mortgage will disagree.)
So I definitely don't know. As I was trained to say "It depends".
These are complex matters (too difficult for my tiny phone screen to keep up with😀)
@Storm:
Its good to be open to different ways to decide who has the say in running a country. Most are ambivalent, or follow / rebel against the rule of compulsory voting.I once lived in an anarchist community, who had a very different way of making decisions.
I occasionally worked for the Australian Electoral Commission in charge of a Pollling Station (in charge of the rules) - contrary to most anarchist ideals. But I was not enrolled to vote myself as my protest… Couldn't have been more confusing.No system is ideal. Those who seek power (for themselves or their group) will always try to take it, while others just moan but allow it😢
@Infidel: The problem with not enrolling to vote, as a protest, is that you have to live under the rule of the government that is in power, so you have removed your ability to have a say in how that is run. As you have said, certain people will seek power and our jobs, as voters, is to try to install the person best suited to serve the people. The current government in Australia is deeply flawed, but looking at the alternatives overseas we could be much worse. My ability to vote was a gift that some very extraordinary women sacrificed a lot to give me; I cherish it and use it as wisely as I can.
I think that most jobs can be enhanced by freethinking approaches to delivery, but the amount of control that a person has over their job may be limited to what they are expected to deliver and how much influence they have in the process.
I admire your free spirit, and your breadth of experience, but your lifestyle is not suited to the majority of the populace who need a measure of order to bring up their children. To live an extraordinary life you are still dependent on the people who do the mundane. Your overseas travel is dependent on the thousands of people who are involved in the "travel" business. The food and money you are given comes from people tending their crops and earning their money. The people you hitchhike with have to mantain their cars and put fuel in them. Amost everything you carry/use would've come from some sort of manufacturing process - clothes, luggage, bedding, utensils. You skim on the surface of society but you are still dependent on it.
I wish you well on your journey.
Alien…….lol
Humanoid bots…
She said she still hates Asian people and Aboriginal people, but she hates Muslim people more right now. Or something to that effect. I'm sure she avoided using the word hate, but it was clear that was what she meant.
young people
Not a bargain. Price too steep.
You don't have to play nice.
Do the pizzas use halal meat?
I would have gone if it was a Halal Snack Pack.
Offering inducements in an attempt to influence a vote is illegal (Part VII of the Electoral Act(WA)). This expressly includes food or drink.
So - does offering free pizza and beer two days out from an election amount to a benefit for, or on account of, a vote, promise of a vote, or support of a candidate?
I know what my answer is.
Of course, Lily Chen was giving out free wine http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-28/liberal-lily-chen-gave…
Which would you rather?No one is going to call her out on it. She's a force in WA and the LNP knows it.
Labor is powerless to do anything.
What comes around, goes around. We only need to wait, she will be on the outer again and a new regime will come in. You change politicans often for the same reason you change nappies; after a while they get full of crap and start to smell. Queensland even managed to get rid of Joh; it just took a bit longer.
Labor has given out free food at thousands of events in the past
if Pauline cant give out some pizzas , ban all the free BBQs and other catered events too.
I think the Libs thought she would be a force so wanted to side with her to stop their own extreme right wing voters leaving Libs, but have since found out that yes, they may keep some of the right wing, but are losing a lot more votes from the centre (their own voters) due to being associated with ON.
20 years ago she was railing against Asians. Now it's against Muslims. In 20 years time (if she's still around) it will be Africans (even if they are Christian). She's just a party in search of an extreme base.
Many of ON policies make no sense, especially:
- taking education back to the 1950's (seriously)
- scrapping renewable energy targets (as they don't believe in climate change)http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/one-na…
An interesting read indeed, thank you.
It can be seen here
https://www.slp.wa.gov.au/legislation/statutes.nsf/main_mrti…
- Term used: bribery
Without limiting the effect of the general words in the preceding
section, bribery particularly includes the supply of food, drink,
or entertainment after the nominations have been officially
declared, or transport for any voter whilst going to or returning
from the poll, with a view to influencing the vote of an electorThe only explicit exclusion for Bribery or Undue Influence is this
Exception to what is bribery or undue influence
No declaration of public policy or promise of public action shall
be deemed bribery or undue influence.
WAEC Complaints Email
Does is get murky because she's not actually running in the WA election, nor is she registered in any capacity in WA.
I doubt that's a valid exception otherwise all parties would use people resident in other states to get around it.
I've contacted the WAEC so will see their response.
Apparently jail up to 12 months is a possible penalty for bribery in an election.
"with a view to influencing the vote of an elector"
Would rather ALL politicians play on a level playing field, and be honest in all dealings. As much as diversity is good in Australian politics, we cannot be seen to ignore or tolerate any unethical behaviour regardless of their background.
I think if you're a taxpayer, this is not free…
Damn….
Guess it means I'll be paying, but not eating.
So this isn't a bargain.
In fact, its the opposite —whatever the word is.I could buy Domino's "pizza" which would literally be more of a bargain.
And I bet the pizza will be cold and the beers hot.
Also have issues with the venue as it cannot accomodate a sizeable crowd.Guess I should neg this "bargain" as being:
- The deal is not the cheapest available
- Defective product
- Major issues with retailerSorry Spackbace ; )
Sorry Spackbace ; )
Sorry it got revoked ;)
Well played : )
*The event description said Ms Hanson would be shouting “free pizza and the first 100 drinks”.
So if I know my politicians, she's just going to go on stage and scream "FREE PIZZA AND THE FIRST 100 DRINKS" in to the microphone only then start kissing Putin's butth0le?
Surprised there are no negs for this lol. I'll chime in, get my neg revoked, and then blame the mods for supporting racism!
Please explain?
Of course you will have it revoked, you haven't given a reason for your neg vote.
Isn't pizza Italian? How un-australian is this!!
How we currently eat pizza is more American, like Republicans and Donald Trump - but not Obama coz he's from Africa.
Originally created in China, and borrowed/improved on by the Italians, just like spaghetti (noodles).
Pauline has taken her standup comedy routine on the road again?
Nothing is free. I would be highly interested to know the real sponsor of this “free pizza and the first 100 drinks”.
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I would have thought she'd be up in the Pilbara by Thursday. What a freak.