As most PC builders are aware of, AMD has released a new CPU lineup. As a builder myself, I want to know whether the release of AMD Ryzen has any impact on builders?
My first computer was an AMD so I'm quite fond of team red, but all my PCs have been Intel in the past 3 years as AMD not only used more power, but offered much lower IPC performance than Intel(IMO Bulldozer was such an embarrassment).
For me, Yes I will be changing to AMD(if the current leaked benchmarks are correct)
I'm sandy bridge!
Sandy Bridge E representing! The 3930K is still going strong. I doubt an upgrade is in order - aside from some new thermal paste, of course.
Yup, I think unless you're into gaming, we have reached a point where CPU's do not need to be more powerful.
A 5yo PC will run 99% of OS/Programs without any hassles.
Development to reduce the power consumption and size of PC's will be more welcome than speed.
My web browser/Word/Excel opens in a blink of an eye with my i7 and SSD.
I'm not really sure if there is any point in upgrading until I get dual 4k monitors, even then, I would only need to add a new graphics card.
Unlike in the past, I think I only will upgrade when my PC breaks down, previously I would upgrade because the hardware would struggle with the latest OS/Programs.
I do agree with this point, but my current desktop is a 95W Sandy Bridge 4-Core CPU, therefore I'd be happy to sell it off and get new 65W 8-Core CPU.
Pffft. My Nehalem i7 is still my work horse. Very interested in Ryzen though.
Poll needs a 4th option - 'Waiting for the real world benchmarks before I believe this is any more than hype' ;)
Nah my 2500k is still going strong with a solid overclock, no reason to update until they make more significant architectural improvements, not these incremental changes we've seen since Sandy Bridge.
I have the same CPU with overclock and plan on upgrading. I really need more multithreaded performance. Game engines that have been coming out recently have finally been taking advantage of more than 4 cores for the first time. I need better FPS.
Probably no, unless I need a seperate, new PC. That said, I do like what I am hearing about Ryzen. I just hope there are some truth to those.
My brother needs a PC from scratch. He's considering Ryzen CPUs as an option. Of course, it does depend on Ryzen living up to the hype.
I kinda like what Ryzen might do to the market. Of course, it's all rumours and such. If it is able to compete with Intel, that's only going to be good for consumers.
Exactly, it's been a while since we had the Athlon 64 vs Pentium saga.
The CPU market became boring after Intel beat AMD with C2D, then once again with the current 'Core' lineup.
It's funny, it is tempting to upgrade but I don't even have my cpu overclocked anymore… There's just no point with my single gpu set up. So if I'm not pushing my current cpu why bother.
Its all about the chipset features really some the cpu ain't getting pushed. I currently don't feel like I'm missing out on anything with my z77 board. SATA III SSD is plenty quick enough, pcie 3.0, usb 3.0 and an i7 quad core with hyperthreading that can overclock to over 4.5ghz.
Now having said that if I had a 144hz monitor and the gpu power to push it I might consider a new cpu and mobo IF it was shown to achieve noticibly better fps in cpu bound games.
Agreed, with the introduction with affordable ram, SSD drive and a quad core; it's pretty fast as is.
Great news for gamers!
For years, if you had the Core i5-2500k (32nm) you could Overclock that thing 4.5GHz and pair it with the fastest GPU's for a high-end rig.
There haven't been bottlenecks ever since these latest titles and latest GPUs.
And if you were on the same platform (1155), you could make the upgrade to the Core i7-3770k (22nm) and overclock that to 4.5GHz as well, giving you extra Single-Core Performance and Extra (hyper) Threads to manage newer titles and GPUs better.
Then the 4th-gen 22nm Core i5's (4670k and 4690k) and Core i7's (4770k and 4790k) arrived with little gains.
But the 6th-gen 14nm did bring some nice improvements.
Especially in the form of the Core i5-6500, which was now fast enough to run most games and most gpu's without bottlenecking. All in budget! The Core i5-6600k was a slight improvement and nothing could touch the Core i7-6700k on the top-end.
The 7th-gen was more of a rebranding stage as it proved literally no performance gain.
People could opt to get the Core i5-7400 instead of the Core i5-6500. Or get the 7600k instead of the 6600k. Or get the 7700k instead of the 6700k.
But if you had to buy new in 2016/2017, the budget Core i5-7400 was the Gamer's Choice.
It can run without bottlenecking most games and gpus, and saved a lot of money from a 7700k which could be used to upgrade the GPU.
…and now we have RyZen.
Gamer's were eager to test out the R5 1500X as it seemed like a good competitor to the Core i7-7700k <-> Core i5-6600k systems. However, after some extensive reviews, it seems the R5 1500X is really held back by its reduced Cache and cut-down parts.
Gamers should opt to buy the R5 1600 (14nm).
This 6 core/12 thread CPU is a full Ryzen 7 chip with only 2 cores/4 threads deactivated. It's not as Cut-Down as the 1500X or lower. But having less cores actually has allowed the processor to Clock higher (4.2GHz) than it's 8 core big brothers (3.9GHz). And that means better Single-Core performance, which is where RyZen lags slightly. Especially when considering most games target 4 cores, making 8 core processors redundant.
So for games the R5 1600 can run faster* than the R7 1800X.
To give a better picture, the R5's Single-Core performance (for games) is about equal to Intel's 4th-gen Haswell (22nm) processors. But its Multi-Core performance is about equal to Intel's 7th-gen KabyLake (14nm) processors.
So a R5 1600 processor will perform games somewhere between Intel's Core i7-4970k and Intel's i7-6700k.
Gamers building a New system today, forget about the Intel Core i5-7400 (U$189) I mentioned earlier, and instead build a system with the Ryzen r5-1600 (U$219).
….also AMD's RX470 4GB still offers the best bang for buck New GPU today.
And targeting High Settings on 1440p resolution seems to give the best trade-off in terms of visuals to performance, as that's what most titles are optimised (efficiency) for. For greater resolutions and greater graphical fidelity, you will see only modest improvements in visuals… but it would require a lot more performance, which means it requires more $$$.
If you don't mind Old Parts or even Used Parts, the Best Bang for Buck you could get is with an Intel Core i7-3770k and an AMD HD7970… maybe even cheaper than a Core i5-7350k and RX 460, but much much more capable.
For 99% of people it is worthless. My 5 years old PC (Ivy Bridge) is still a beast in terms of performance and I bet it will satisfy my needs another 5 years, so, I would skip a few more generations. CPU is no longer a bottleneck, unless you are building a powerful server for high loaded services.