Woolworths Price Overcharging 28-29 Dec 2016

Hi everyone. You may want to check your Woolworths receipts (items purchased 28-29 dec 2016. I just had a look at my Woolworths grocery receipt and it seems all the sale items I bought were not brought down to the sale price but instead stayed on full price. I went to speak with a manager just then and they tell me their system was down between 28-29 dec 2016 which means the computers on site register as a sale item but a connection problem with backend head office to authorise price change did not proceed. In other words they charge full price whilst displaying a * next to the item (usually indicating a sale item). This can be misleading and makes you think you got the item on sale.

When questioned, they became defensive and said I should of saw my 3-week old receipt initially and should of notified them immediately. I then asked them, "so does that mean everyone got scammed during that 2-day period?" to which they replied that they would of refunded he amounts during that period since they knew about the issue. I then asked them why a sign was not put up to say there was a system issue and any sale items would not be processed correctly. They said it was upon the customer to tell them they were charged full price. This essentially means they blamed me for their system error. They continued by saying that they can give me the difference back and one free item. I immediately quoted them on the scanning code of practice of which Woolworths is a signatory. This means for each individual first item I would get for free. They refused and say they can't do it as it's 3 weeks ago. Luckily on the yellow ticket on display back then was still on the items in question. On it was dated 28/12 - 15/02 which I bought my items on the 28/12. In the end they reluctantly refunded the items by scanning items off the shelf.

So what to do?
1. Check your receipts dated 28/29 dec 2016
2. Check the price of your sale items here
3. Ask in store to double check the prices on their system (or show catalogue
3. Request for "scanning code of practice" (usually a manager needs to sort it out)

SCANNING CODE

The Code of Practice for Computerised Checkout Systems in Supermarkets was developed to ensure that the interests of customers are protected in the operation of supermarket scanning systems.

Who does the Code apply to?

The Code is voluntary and applies to supermarkets and food stores who are signatories to it.

Signatories to the Code are:

Woolworths Supermarkets
What does the Code cover?

The Code of Practice covers all scanned merchandise within a store. This includes items registered using the PLU ("Price Look Up") number.

The Code does not cover:

Liquor products
Tobacco products
Items which do not have a barcode or PLU number
Items where the shelf price is $50 or greater
The Item Free policy

If the price displayed at the checkout or on the customer receipts is higher than the shelf price, the customer is entitled to receive that item free of charge.

The Shelf Price is the price of an individual item that appears on a shelf label or shelf price label.

The Shelf Label or Shelf Price Label means the sign or label showing the price of individual items at the place where the product is displayed for sale to the customer.

The Item Free policy does NOT cover goods that are "item priced".
The Item Free policy does NOT cover goods where the shelf price is $50 or greater.

The Multiple Purchase Policy
Where multiple items bearing identical bar codes, or the same PLU number, are scanned and the scanned price is higher that the shelf price, the customer is entitled to receive the first item free of charge and the remaining items at the lower price (that is, the shelf price).

When scanning error deemed to have occurred?
A scanning error shall be deemed to have occurred when an item has been scanned, or the correct PLU number entered, and a price higher than the shelf price is displayed at the checkout or on the customer receipt.

It is not necessary for the customer to have paid for the item or to have left the store to be entitled to receive the item free of charge.

Where an operator error has occurred (that is the wrong PLU number is entered or the wrong product is identified by the checkout operator) the customer is NOT entitled to receive the item free of charge.

Other provisions of the Code:
The Code requires retailers to give customers a detailed, legible receipt describing each item purchased, the price, the date and the store name.
The Code provides that customer grievances be referred to the store manager or supervisor in the first instance. Where a grievance is not resolved to the satisfaction of the customer they may lodge a formal complaint with the Retail Council.

Customer Service
To lodge a complaint regarding a signatory retailer, please call the Retail Council on + 61 2 8823 3515 (Monday to Friday during business hours).

Related Stores

Woolworths
Woolworths

Comments

  • +24

    That is so last year

    • -4

      I don't know how to upvote 2016 times :)

    • +33

      But the issue lies on the store for not notify customers that they knew about the system being down since 4AM 28th dec till 29 dec. They should of put a sign at the check out to ask customers to double check the sale item price upon scanning and to bring it up to the staff. They failed to do that which means if someone did not check their receipts then they would of been charged everything full price. Being 3 weeks or 1 year does not matter as the principle is they failed to notify customers despite knowing the issue. I only bought 4 items and they overcharged me $7.40. Imagine someone doing shopping for new year BBQ or party which may have 30+ items.

  • +79

    I disagree with both the above comments. How bout some recognition and appreciation for the effort OP has gone to to bring this to our attention?
    If not for OP, I wouldn't have even realised.

    Thanks OP, +100.

    • -6

      Catchy not once did I discredit the OP
      I simply find it that three weeks later it was discovered
      I always check the reciept and the screen if using self checkout and resolve issues on the spot

      Perhaps it was a busy time for the OP
      I would be pretty peeved too if I was overcharged but I am usually pretty savvy about the whole issue and get to it on the spot

  • +13

    how can you be on this site and not 100% check a receipt when you first get it?

    • I usually do hence why I know about the scanning code of practice. I look for such items being scanned wrongly. That is the one time unfortunately I did not look properly

    • +5

      This. I do not leave the property until I've reviewed the receipt for every item.

      My wife used to scoff at this, until she noticed a pattern of literally hundreds of dollars of saving per year…at least a few bucks on about 80% of shopping trips.

      Handy tip, given to me by a WW staffer, if you want the protection of the CoP Free Item policy, don't use the self-serve checkout, it only applies to items scanned by staff at any of the regular checkouts.

      • +5

        What? Where does it say that in the Code of Practice?

        • -1

          Handy tip, given to me by a WW staffer…

          As noted, advice of staff…matches with personal anecdotal experience of never having received a free item from incorrect scan on self-checkout.

          It may not be in the Code. Given that the CoP is AFAIK entirely voluntary, they can probably take such steps to ensure the policy isn't abused…it's what I would do.

        • +2

          @StewBalls:
          But if you self checkout, then take the incorrect receipt to the service desk, don't they fulfil their policy?
          I'm pretty sure I have successfully done this (although I rarely bother).

        • -2

          @mskeggs: Nope, you do get the difference back, but never the first item free…I've even asked, that's when I got the aforementioned advice.

        • +2

          @StewBalls: I have always taken my self-service receipt to the service desk, and have gotten the first item free. The next time it happens, tell them that they are supposed to give you the first item free, or speak to a manager.

        • @bsmksg: Again, that's precisely how I got the advice in the first place…

        • +3

          @StewBalls: Then the WW must have given you incorrect advice. The CoP applies to self-checkouts as well, always had.

        • @bsmksg: Source???

        • +1

          @StewBalls: Past experience across a number of supermarkets across 2 states, VIC & NSW.
          For quite a few years I have only used self-checkout as I hate regular checkouts.
          Have always managed to claim against CoP by simply walking over to the Service Counter with my receipt.

        • @bsmksg: I'd love to hear from a staff member officially on this, because apparently anecdotal customer experience varies considerably…

          Easy workaround for me, I don't use the self-serve for anything but the most basic transactions anymore…I make the staff earn their keep! ;)

        • +4

          @StewBalls: used to work at Coles. Regardless of what checkout customer went through, first item free.

          Though unless the price was challenged, we didn't volunteer it (eg if I knew xx was on special and I saw the price was normal, we wouldn't advertise the mess up, we'd just go change it in the system immediately). That being said if I had regular customers that spent heaps or just generally nice people and I noticed, I'd do it for them.

        • +1

          @jjjaar: Wow, that's really interesting…the WW staff member I spoke to was nice, but adamant that what I've described was the store policy. She seemed genuinely disappointed that she couldn't give me the first item free in my case…

          If it happens again I'll press them on the issue, purely on principle…cheers.

        • @StewBalls: otherwise you could be ridiculously cheeky and ask for a full refund then go straight through a normal checkout and expect them to put their store policy in place…

        • @mskeggs:
          Exactly what i have done numerous times in 2016. Never an issue.

        • @bsmksg: >For quite a few years

          What a likely story considering self checkouts have been with us for what … 5 years?

        • +1

          @StewBalls:
          Might be a bit of a pain, but as someone who prefers self-serve, you can always ask them to cancel your transaction if something scans at the wrong price (I check prices as I scan) and go to a staffed checkout.

          There are two Woolworths stores I visit regularly. One of them, if you mention something scanned at the wrong price, will confirm and then without you asking will refund the cost of the first of any item and charge any more of the item at the displayed/correct price.

          The other store will not give you the first item free under any circumstances, sometimes they will change the price of the item to the correct price (not if it's because they haven't updated the shelf price when the price went up and not if they left a sale price up that is no longer available). Actually, I don't really go to that one much anymore, the staff are generally less friendly and competent.

        • -1

          @Miss B: I'd do that for an expensive item, but not for something cheap these days I'm afraid, my time is more valuable to me nowadays…

        • +1

          @bsmksg: The Scanning CoP is voluntary (and says so in the excerpt in the post), this is crucial in this instance when using self checkouts, even manned checkouts. The store, the manager or staff member you approach does not actually have to follow the CoP at all as it is voluntary. They can opt out at anytime. It doesn't look good for them if they do as they may create a scene with a customer or have social media backlash, but the store isn't obligated by law to follow the CoP. Being voluntary they can refuse to give you the first item free at any point and only refund the difference.
          It's a common misconception that CoP is a law when its far from it and normally only supermarkets may choose to voluntarily follow it and if they apply it at all in any situation.

          source: Used to work several convenience retail positions(not supermarkets) many an argument with customers that claimed it was law, lol'd many a time at them and still waiting for a single one to prove the "Scanning CoP" is law. They always only got the difference, nothing free.

        • +1

          @sigh: I think by voluntary it means supermarkets (headoffice) can opt-in if they want. Coles used to be in it but then removed themselves. For Woolworths it was head office that voluntarily signed themselves to the scanning CoP, so a manager at a store level has no authorisation to override head office agreements. Once a company voluntarily signs up they may remove themselves but only on a global scale (not case by case). That is why there is a phone number to the retail council to express any issues that remain unresolved with the store manager/supervisor. Maybe retail is different to supermarkets.

        • +1

          @WaterMark: As it is voluntary it can be applied on a case by case basis, anecdotaly this thread proves that. I also have had friends work at Colesworth over the years including knowing a store manager or two over the years and heard a few stories. The application of the CoP may depend various factors such as the store manager protecting his bottom line to better their numbers directing staff to give refunds only, to giving their duty managers their own discretion or giving direction to follow it as if it is law to get good customer feedback and boost their store number's that way.
          Voluntary is the key word in the Scanning CoP, even if the supermarket chain is a signatory they still aren't obligated in any way to follow it, complaint or not. It's not a law so ultimately not much will come of a complaint if they dont follow the CoP. Its just good customer service if they do follow it
          Retail is different to supermarkets, as the Scanning Code is actually called "The Code of Practice for Computerised Checkout Systems in Supermarkets" and is alss voluntary (again) any retail store may choose to follow it but can choose not to whenever it suits them. Like you have even said Coles aren't a signatory any more but still may follow it, if the person you're talking too chooses.

        • @Diji1:

          What a likely story considering self checkouts have been with us for what … 5 years?

          That's why I said "a few years", and not "many years".
          Also, self-checkouts have been in existence for more than 5 years. (And I know that as I have been using self-checkout since my uni days, and that was more than 5 years ago.)

      • +2

        Your wife is a saint…

        • +1

          You'll get very little argument on that…

      • Weird. I noticed a mistake at the self service. First item free, rest at the lesser amount. I guess YMMV.

        • +1

          Yeah, I suppose the only consistent thing we can rely on with the duopoly is inconsistency.

        • +2

          @StewBalls: It's a voluntary policy, this means they don't have to follow it and can apply any or all of it at their discretion. That's why YMMV and it's applied so inconsistantly from store to store in supermarkets.
          Most other sections of retail may choose to follow it also, but often don't.

        • @sigh: If only somebody wise had suggested the same thing two days ago…

          It may not be in the Code. Given that the CoP is AFAIK entirely voluntary…

      • Nup, this is not true at all. It was explained to me as no difference what so ever because if the staff member scans your cheap pumpkin as expensive pumpkin it wasn't a scanning error it's human error thus they only refund you the difference. Not the full amount like they would if it was a special that showed up as full price.

        • Pumpkins don't scan at my local, like most of the fresh produce it's by weight…so that's not quite what we're discussing here.

      • Is

    • Yeah, exactly.

  • Location of supermarket?

    • +2

      Yes, if the link was down, and we are just hearing about it now, it is likely to be isolated to that single store.
      Also, I thought the star on receipts was to indicate GST included items? Or am I mis-remembering, I don't have a receipt handy to check.

      • -4

        So they lied about system being down?

        Actually you are right for taxable items I checked.

        • +3

          "System is down" is a vague term. What they meant was that the connection to head office was down. Hence I'm thinking errors will be confined to this store.

        • @greenpossum:
          So which store was it?

        • @mskeggs: OP hasn't told us.

        • @greenpossum:
          Sorry, meant to reply to OP.

      • +3

        GST items are marked with a " * ", on the left hand side of the receipt.

        Specials are marked with a " ^ " on the right hand side.

        At the bottom of the receipt (before fuel/wine offers) it shows "total includes GST" and "OTHER SAVINGS".

  • Did the store manager know the system was down at the time or only discovered later?

    • +1

      They said they knew about the issue at 4AM 28th and contacted Headoffice to fix. It wasn't fixed until late 29th dec. I spoke with the actual manager on duty which also worked that day which may explain her personal motive to pay me off with her own money (which I declined).

      • in my experience most managers would have been happy to refund and fix any pricing errors but then I don't tend go into a store quoting codes of practice or being passive aggressive about something that happened nearly a month after the fact either.

    • What sort of an organisation is Woolworths running? They have a clear failure in systems and a manager feels the only way to make a customer whole again is to pay them out of their own back pocket? Happy to be shopping at Coles.

  • +4

    I think true Ozbargainers keep a mental tab of the total to within a dollar or two. Things taste better when the were claimed under the scanning code. It's why I prefer human checkout…they still honour the refund under self checkout but it's easier if the store did it all themselves.

    • Surely you do large shops on occasion where mental accounting to within under 1% is nearly impossible.

  • My receipts go in the bin once I'm home, no way do I still have them. I also look for the price reduction or sale prices when scanning.

  • +2

    My experience with Woolies and Coles is that for my local Woolies store, items REGULARLY scan above shelf price. Usually they will only offer to refund the DIFFERENCE once a staff member has gone and checked (leaving you hanging around waiting). This is why I now shop at Coles despite the fact that it is further away. Haven't had a single price discrepancy there to date.

    • +1

      OP I agree they should have alerted customers to the issue.

    • +2

      As mentioned above, if the item scans above shelf price, the item is FREE. (1st item free, then price difference for multiples).
      Also, NEVER EVER tell the cashier that the price is wrong.
      Instead, take your receipt to the customer service counter and request a refund.

    • Code wording: If the price displayed at the checkout or on the customer receipts is higher than the shelf price, the customer is entitled to receive that item free of charge.
      Put a complaint through to their national customer service. get the managers name and get him FIRED!

      • +1

        The code is not worth the paper it's written on given that it's voluntary.

      • Wow,I hope you never make a mistake at you're work. Wouldn't want you fired.

      • +1

        Code wording: The Code is voluntary and applies to supermarkets and food stores who are signatories to it.

        "voluntary" ie can be ignored, a refund of the difference is the minimum to be expected, getting it free isn't law it is a voluntary gracious gesture by the store for their mistake.

      • +1

        I don't intend on making anyone lose their job which is why I have not mentioned the store.

  • +2

    the only question on my mind reading this was… why were you looking at a receipt for 3 weeks ago, and how did you remember what was on sale! true ozbargainer memory you have :P

  • +1

    Ohh. This manager does not know the law in relation to pricing! Could be a hefty fine coming their way. A phone call to the dept of fair Trading should sort them out.

  • +13

    Am I the only one -
    it is "should HAVE" - not "should OF"
    it is "would HAVE" - not "would OF"
    ….. just saying ….

    • man i was gonna comment this too..

      i should off………………….. myself

    • +3

      my pet hate… but I've learned to let it go (not easy)

    • YES! I had to read it a few times for me to realise what was wrong.

    • +1

      I'd point out "should've" as well, because the contraction is what's really intended by those who write "should of", and it also serves to highlight the origin of the error ("should've" sounds like "should of").

  • From my observation the applied policy depends more on supermarket on-duty manager rather than location or name of the store.
    Usually I am able to claim free item if I am overcharged. Sometimes it just not worth arguing and wasting time with some a$$hole.
    And I will come and buy (get for free) the same product next day, if they did not fix the price and continue to overcharge other customers.

  • As a Ozbargainer I look forward to experiencing pricing errors at Coles/Woolies. I'm terrible with names but great with numbers (prices) so any error is very quickly identified on the spot and AFTER paying for said items I make my over to the CS desk. Price policy (full refund) applies to 1 item and never once had an issue with claiming it. On average I probably 'save' $20-30/month due to errors.

    • You should post these as forum posts.. Pricing errors,,
      Let more people Screw them and gain the benefit of the great with numbers brain..

      • you'd think they'd fix it immediately after offering me a refund but yeah I wouldn't put it past them not to.

        • They take down the incorrect sign when processing the refund, not sure when they fix the price in the computer.

  • i got charged wrongly before and Woolworths refused to give it to me for free. It's up to their own discretion whether or not to give it to me for free

    for Coles, they always happy to give it to me for free

    • Not true. It's their policy to offer a refund under the voluntary scanning practice. See exclusions below

      https://help.woolworths.com.au/content/what-does-the-superma…

      http://retail.org.au/scanning-code/ (funnily enough only woolies is a signatory to this particular code)

      If you weren't in any of the above categories, you were simply fobbed off by the 15 year old operator or Store Manager (SMs know better)

      NB: Whether you go through an actual or self checkout is irrelevant.

      • +1

        You really should look up the meaning of the word voluntary, it might stop you referring to this code of practice as though it's something they have to do like it was enshrined in the law of the land.

        • +2

          you really need to get a clue. Woolies voluntarily abides by the code. It's not up to the discretion of local branch staff to pick and choose. Noone said anything about being LAW.

        • -1

          @gimme: Voluntary is still the key word, it's not law like you said so if a store/duty manager chooses to ignore a voluntary store policy that is their discretion. They're not breaking the law, they're only breaching a store policy, and saving the company money by doing so. It comes back to good customer service if they follow it entirely or not.

        • +3

          @sigh:

          You clearly don't understand how corporate governance works but hey this is the internet and I'm sure you think you're an expert. I say it again, it's not up to each store to decide how to apply Woolworth's own policies. That's not how it works.

        • -1

          @gimme: I do actually understand, far from an expert, but personal experience in actually dealing with this policy helps me understand why its application is so varied even when it is corporate policy for some retail chains.
          It can be, it has been and it will be. This thread and multiple people pointing out ymmv says that your strict definition of a voluntarily accepted policy is sacrosanct seems naive. They're a business, giving out free stuff goes against their ultimate corporate policy of profit. Ignoring a voluntary policy is hardly surprising if it protects their bottom line. No safety breaches or laws have been broken, profit has been protected but customer satisfaction is what suffers.
          Don't get me wrong, they're douchebags for saying they follow it but apply it how and when they see fit. It will unfortunately be a ymmv policy as it is voluntary even if it is a corporate policy.

        • +5

          @sigh:
          My point is that if a store manager or some 15 year old kid refuse to provide a refund, they are breaching their own policy. Simple as that. If you could be bothered escalating it to Woolies corporate it will be resolved in your favor. Some people may have been unsuccessful in the store but that doesn't mean the store is right. They're just ignorant and/or think they can simply get away with it.

          I have received over 40+ refunds during the course of 15 years in multiple states from multiple stores. Never once had a problem. I would say the number who have been unsuccessful is relatively low and they are more than likely pushovers who don't understand the policy or their particular circumstance was one of the exclusions.

          Woolies has their policy clearly published on their website. It's no secret. As a corporation they are more than happy to honor it. Much like everywhere else you will have some outliers that an assertive and informed customer should be able to easily deal with on the spot.

        • @gimme: A refund is of the difference is a given and the absolute minimum any retail outlet should give, not just supermarkets. I totally agree and never question that i apologise as it seems i didn't make this clear, sorry for that confusion.
          People demanding a free item as it's 'law' or 'their right' under a voluntary CoP hardly any retailer actually follows entirely is when the 'ymmv' comes in.

        • @sigh:
          I'm not ttalking aabout price difference refunds. It's about the free item as per their voluntarily adopted and ppublished policy. Never mind I'm moving on. Good lluck to the pushovers who ddon't get it.

      • they do offer me the option of full refund with the item return back to them

  • +1

    I never care about getting it for free, but the right price is nice. People make mistakes. I get that.

  • Most likely isolated to a single store. Happened to me once where the system was down and not processing specials automatically, went to another store later in the day and the store said they had no issues that day.

  • -2

    OP. Get a life.

    • -1

      So you are abusing me for paying for my items.. seems like it is you that needs to get a life outside being a keyboard warrior.

  • Does this CoP apply to items that are manually reduced due to sell by dates, or just specials?

    edit: actually the error is they've usually scanned the wrong bar code… so i guess this is considered an 'operator error' and not covered under this policy.

    edit2: "The Item Free policy does NOT cover goods that are 'item priced'."

  • I always go self serve and find the price is pretty obviously displayed as each item is scanned. If it's not looking right I see it pretty quickly, but fortunately has only happened once - I didn't ask/push the "free" thing though the guy just corrected the price for me after I ran back to the shelf and verified I hadn't messed up first!

  • +5

    Reading this thread it is clear there is plenty of misunderstanding.

    1. Retailcouncil.com.au is an industry membership set up to push the interests of their members, not consumers. Their Scanning code of practice is voluntarily subscribed to by Woolies (HQ). So yes, Woolies (HQ) can pull out of the Code at anytime if they wish. It is not the decision of the local store to choose not to honor their corporate decision. If this is happening, it is because of misunderstanding by the store staff, so consumers should just email corporate customer service to lodge a complaint, which hopefully will result in store training.

    2. There are suggestions that because Coles is not a signatory to the retailcouncil code that they don't have a first item free policy. This is incorrect.
      Coles have chosen to implement a similar Code but is done as a Coles (HQ) policy. It is spelled out in black and white at https://www.coles.com.au/customer-service/helping-you-shop
      The Coles policy is "voluntary" insofar as it goes above and beyond Australian Consumer Law, and therefore can be dropped at any time by HQ, but until then, the policy applies to ALL Coles stores.
      Coles put B5 sized stickers on their customer service desks informing consumers, so if you get lip from their staff, just point to the sticker.

    • Yup spot on. Someone gets it

  • OP can i see your receipt?

  • My local Woolies makes heaps of pricing errors which i use to my advantage. I rarely have an issue getting the item for free and they usually honour multiples of the same item too. I never abuse their goodwill policy and always am grateful when i get it free. Never abuse the staff members either. Don't try to go back in and try to buy the same item again either, it's not a good look and they will find out.

    • They take the incorrect price tag down when processing the refund to stop anymore claims.

  • accept it and move on

  • This is a case for Tracy…. Tracy Grimshaw.

  • Am i missing something here ? What deal was on on 28-29 dec?

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