I am looking to get a small formfactor PC for wife. My options are to go Intel Nuc i5-615SYH and put a 8GB ram and SSD in there and pair it with a new monitor…or to go for an Inspiron 24 3000 with a i5-7200u processor. the problem is that the intel nuc will have a fast drive but a slower processor. The Dell option will have a newer CPU but slower driver.
Opinions please?
PC for word processing, scanning of document, pdf editing, etc. no games.
Thanks. Don't think that spec will do for us. While we don't need gaming capabilities, we need to use lightroom from time to time….
SSD > CPU
Thanks assuming I put an SSD in the inspiron…what sort of performance gain do I get by using a 7th generation i5 vs 6th generation i5?
no perf gain, just lower power usage.
Thanks scrimshaw. So in your opinion would a nuc be better than the AIO solution?
Wouldn't you be able to use 7th Gen i5 for 4K netflix whereas not with 6th Gen? I've lost my touches with PC stuff recently, but I do remember reading somewhere that Kaby Lake is the only one that can run 4K netflix because of DRM or something.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/21/13703152/netflix-4k-pc-wi…
Ah, didn't really realise that the one with 7th gen i5 was a AIO, rather than something like a NUC. Probably would be unnecessary feature anyways then, since the AIO seem to have FHD screen.
As of writing Kaby Lake only exists for laptops anyway.
And here's the funny thing:
The few laptops that have Kaby Lake are thin and light ultrabooks which don't have 4K screens, so you're not seeing the full resolution.
4K laptops like such as the XPS 15 have Skylake because quad-core Kaby Lake laptop chips aren't out yet.
Desktop users (the ones most likely to have 4K screens) can't get it at all because Kaby Lake isn't out for desktops, and even Nvidia Pascal cards aren't yet supported despite having full hardware codec support because of some vague DRM bullshit.
The only possibility left is for Kaby Lake owners to plug their laptops into a 4K HDR TV, which completely defeats the point since, many of these TVs are also smart TVs which can stream Netflix in 4K anyway.
So Hollywood dun goof'ed up, nobody is watching their crap in 4k. Good one!! ಠ_ಠ
In any case, I'm already using a 4K Android-powered Sony Bravia TV, and a gaming rig with Pascal GPU to crunch my games. Intel is not wooing me with their new 7th gen "4k Netflix capable" chips.
@scrimshaw: Isn't i5-7200u Kaby Lake CPU and isn't the inspirion AIO that OP talks about with i5-7200u?
I do agree that 4K netflix is kinda moot on PC, most people would use it with 4K TV and those usually come with 4K Netflix. That said, isn't it a difference that seperates two CPUs apart?
Though I completely agree that AIO wouldn't really benefit from it much, I kinda realised it was an AIO not a NUC after I wrote that comment about 4K stuff.
That said, isn't it a difference that seperates two CPUs apart?
There's other ways to add 10-bit HEVC support to a system. A GPU upgrade for instance (but this won't be possible or even economically feasible for some people.)
For HTPC owners this is going to be a headache, but I suspect quite a large number of people may already own a device that can do Netflix in 4K that complies with the DRM protection.
For the vast majority of people out there who are using some kind of Smart TV with built in Netflix support, or Amazon Fire TV / Roku box 4 / Nvidia Shield / Xiaomi MiBox / XBox One S / PS4 Pro or whatever, these devices already do Netflix in 4K and are also fairly inexpensive purchases ($100 AUD for the MiBox for e.g is a good entry-level gateway to 4K content).
but back on topic, does Jeeg even own a 4K TV and does his wife want to use it as a HTPC? We've jumped the gun a little.
@scrimshaw: True, true. Unless you specifically need 4K Netflix, I'd assume in 1080p situation, you'd be able to decode a lot of those with just software decoder to begin with?
I kinda mentinoed those because I thought it at least seperates those two apart. I do agree that it's kinda hard to utilise that feature with AIO; I kinda thought both of them were NUC before I went on and wrote those.
Well this PC is not meant for watching TV and we also don't have a 4K TV (yet)…not going to be using this as HTPC…may watch youtube and stuff but not meant for video strictly….
@jeeg: In that scenario, you wouldn't find much difference between Skylake and Kaby Lake in the models you've mentioned.
@scrimshaw: >So Hollywood dun goof'ed up, nobody is watching their crap in 4k
No, almost everyone is watching it on smart tvs. 4K doesn't make sense for mobile because of bandwidth and screen size and the number of users that want to watch it on a desktop is tiny given that almost all PC users are on 1920x1080 and no one wants to watch TV at a desk.
There's almost no one that wants that relatively.
Anyone knows where is the cheapest place to buy a legit version of Windows 10? Need windows 10 for the nuc I am building….thanks
All the legit versions of windows are around $129 or so. You can just do a search on Static Ice for the best prices.
http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=windows+10+…
There are… several lesser known avenues of acquiring Windows for $30 AU or so, and they have all been discussed at length on Ozbargain. Once again, I would use the search bar for links to them.
Thanks Scrimshaw. Seems MSY sell the cheapest - Windows 10 home retail at $119. I google win10 pro vs win10 home and the only difference are things like bitlocker, remote desktop control and group policies…don't think average home user will need these yes?
Do you have a student in your household? They might be able elligible for student discount ($70 for Windows 10 Pro, don't think they sold home version?).
If not, depending on where you work, you might be able to grab Windows 10 cheaper through similiar promotions.
I got my Windows code from Play-Asia and had no issues.
This works out to be about $390 delivered. It would do everything you need, you could probably get away using something very basic for your needs.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Computers-Accessories/Intel-STK2m…