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Honda Line Trimmer UMS425 ($269 Pick up, $289 Delivered) @ All Mowers

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Honda Line Trimmer UMS425 ($269 Pick up, $289 Delivered) @ All Mowers
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grababargain on 04/12/2016 - 23:41 allmowers.com.au (3691 clicks)
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Powered by the new improved Generation II, Mini 4-Stroke GX25 engine, the UMS425 Bent Shaft Brushcutter features Honda’s famous one-pull easy starting for hassle free starting every time.It uses unleaded fuel so you’ll never have to mix oil and fuel again, unlike its 2-Stroke counterparts. This model is Honda Australia’s highest-selling product. Not only are more UMS425 Bent Shaft Brushcutters sold than any other Power Equipment product, but they’re more popular than any Honda motorcycle, motor vehicle or outboard engine! Great Whipper Snippers. Free NSW delivery.

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  • wattstar on 05/12/2016 - 00:28

    Great whipper snipper and this is a good price. It's a shame $299 was the standard price before they jacked it up another $100 about a year ago.

    • grababargain on 05/12/2016 - 07:50

      I bought mine 7 years ago for $370 and it's still going strong.

  • llama on 05/12/2016 - 00:49
    +8

    The GX25 engine is good, but once you are at this price point…. do yourself a favour and pay a little extra and get a vastly superior Straight Shaft model.

    Even if you get a Kaaz or other chassis with a Honda engine on it. The bent shaft is noisy, absorbs power, and makes the whole ergonomics of the brushcutter all weird. Truly, the straight shaft is just so much nicer to use since you are directly in control of the cutting head, rather than trying to control something hanging off a bent bit of pipe.

    • ca6leguy on 05/12/2016 - 05:54
      -2

      Nothing superior about the straight shaft. I have both and I prefer the bend. Lighter and more precise if you use it for edging.

      • Scab on 05/12/2016 - 07:03
        +4

        Bent shaft is not more precise and is far more cumbersome to use for edges.

        • wfdTamar on 05/12/2016 - 07:41

          I have the bent shaft one and find the bend isn't bent enough. I feel I have to lift the motor end up so as to get the head into the proper engle of attack. Maybe a strap would help. Previously had a straight Ryobi 2 stroke which didn't have that problem.

          A good accessory worth getting is a speed feed head.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqO3kKZttWc

        • Scab on 05/12/2016 - 07:49
          +1

          @wfdTamar:

          Bent shafts suck for edges, that's why you'll never see a professional using one.

          I hate doing edges with mine, wish I spent extra and got a straight one, having to lift and angle the motor is so cumbersome.

        • ca6leguy on 05/12/2016 - 16:04

          @Kleetus: that's what I thought until I bought a straighty shaft.

          The head on the straight shaft spins anticlockwise. When you do your edging it's whips all the dirt on you. Bent shaft spins clockwise and whips the dirt away from you.

        • ca6leguy on 05/12/2016 - 16:07

          I assume you do not have a bent shaft.

        • Scab on 05/12/2016 - 16:18

          @ca6leguy:

          When you do your edging it's whips all the dirt on you. Bent shaft spins clockwise and whips the dirt away from you.

          You're holding it wrong, and either one can throw dirt on you if you don't do it properly.

          It makes no difference if it's spinning clockwise or anti-clockwise.

        • ca6leguy on 05/12/2016 - 17:17

          @Kleetus:

          How are you supposed to hold it?

        • Scab on 05/12/2016 - 17:21

          @ca6leguy:

          There are plenty of YouTube videos if you aren't sure.

          There is also an arrow on the line guard which should be facing down.

      • Spam Service on 05/12/2016 - 10:02

        The bent shaft design is for ergonomics, which is why some people prefer it. But it's not good for power, maintenance or longevity. The design isn't lighter, they're just made with less materials, because anyone who wants a long lasting machine will get a straight shaft made from better materials.

        If you're getting it for anything more than trimming edges, get a straight shaft design.

        • pmupsinep on 05/12/2016 - 14:00
          -2

          it's not good for power

          Can you please post measurements or evidence for this?

          maintenance

          What maintenance?

          or longevity.

          Can you please post your stats or evidence for this ?

        • llama on 05/12/2016 - 14:52
          +6

          @pmupsinep:

          | it's not good for power
          Can you please post measurements or evidence for this?

          Logic is the only evidence needed. A bent shaft trimmer has a slightly flexible and springy woven steel "rope" spinning at about 3000 rpm, curving around a radiused corner inside a aluminium pipe.

          At all times while it is rotating, the flexible part is trying to stay straight, and also dealing with the torque reaction caused by obstructions encountered by the trimmer head. The flexible shaft is continually flailing itself - all this means that there is a significant amount of friction created.

          You really notice this loss of power when you attempt to do heavy work with a bent shaft trimmer. That's why a typical bent shaft trimmer might only use 2.0mm line (max) whilst same engine on a straight shaft will run 2.7mm, as well as metal blades.

          What maintenance?

          The inside of the shaft must be greased, and as the flexible part and pipe wear, metal grindings will find there way into the grease. So it needs to be disassembled, completely cleaned and re-greased regularly but most people don't bother. So the maintenance required is that you need to replace the shaft every so often.

          Remember - this is a Honda, not a Talon. The engine will last 10 or 20 years if treated properly, but the flexible shaft won't.

          | or longevity
          Can you please post your stats or evidence for this ?

          The flexible shafts wear out. So they don't last as long as a straight shaft which uses a single bevel gearbox down near the head.

          By the way that you are posting, I cannot work out if you are being argumentative, or simply have a poor understanding of science, physics and power equipment in general.

        • Radar on 05/12/2016 - 16:51

          @llama:
          Can a bent shaft model be upgraded to straight shaft at a reasonable cost?

        • llama on 05/12/2016 - 19:35

          @Radar:

          I'm sorry, I don't know.

          If you had both, or could source one with a dead engine and straight shaft, I am sure it would be feasible. However I doubt it'd be worth the cost to buy as spare parts and change it over.

          Another way, but you need to be lucky…. I found a Honda UMS425 last weekend on the footpath down the road, put out for Council Cleanup / Hard Rubbish.

          Somebody had left it out in the weather and it was filthy, but after a check over and fuel I got it started. Somebody had turfed it because the bump feed head was missing it's spool and lower section!

        • Radar on 05/12/2016 - 19:41

          @llama:
          Good find!

          I went through the bent/straight shaft dilemma when I got my UMS425 a couple of years ago - no regrets.
          Sometimes a straight shaft would be easier, like getting in under thorny citrus trees.

        • llama on 05/12/2016 - 20:04
          -2

          @Radar:

          A straight shaft is always easier. Easier to store too!

          My Honda straight shaft is one of these VS255(S)-GX25 Chassis by KAAZ (Japan)

          http://www.kaaz.co.jp/Kaaz%20EX%20Home%20page/EX_BC_list_Sho…

          I am sure that's a cheaper way to get the same quality, but I don't know what other brands have Honda engine on them.

        • pmupsinep on 05/12/2016 - 20:23
          -5

          @llama:

          By the way that you are posting, I cannot work out if you are being argumentative, or simply have a poor understanding of science, physics and power equipment in general.

          Interesting, considering your reply is a whole load of theory and opinion, no evidence of increased failure rates, no evidence of more intensive maintenance schedules, no evidence of power delivery issues in real world usage, the list goes on. Don't know why you even bother?

        • llama on 05/12/2016 - 23:24

          @pmupsinep:

          Interesting, considering your reply is a whole load of theory and opinion

          Nope. Common sense and common knowledge.

          Don't know why you even bother?

          Because some people are too stupid to work things out for themselves.

  • llama on 05/12/2016 - 00:52
    +4

    .It uses unleaded fuel so you’ll never have to mix oil and fuel again, unlike its 2-Stroke counterparts.

    One comment - don't use E10 or other "blends" in small engines. The alcohol in the fuel completely stuffs the fuel pickup hoses, priming pump, and internal carby diaphragms.

  • Savvy on 05/12/2016 - 00:54

    What about Shindaiwa? Anyone know any deals on it? Ta

  • mini2 on 05/12/2016 - 06:22

    Any deals on mowers?

  • Mr BoMBAStiG on 05/12/2016 - 07:33
    +1

    If your man needs a whipper snipper, this is the one you should get him for xmas.

    I did hours of research for my sister in law and ended up on this model. By far the best reviewed online and local mower shop guy recommended without hesitation.

    Don't worry about the straight shaft model. Not necessary unless he has specifically asked for it or has only purchased straight in the past.

  • jonbo on 05/12/2016 - 08:49

    I've owned this Honda UMS425 for last 2 yrs, would highly recommend it..

  • Going Broke on 05/12/2016 - 08:56

    Hi there, Any one knows if it can be fitted with an alloy head taking pre-cut lines? Thanks.

  • Scootex on 05/12/2016 - 09:07

    Says Free NSW delivery in red…. But charging $20?

    • Store RepAllmowers @ Allmowers on 05/12/2016 - 12:47

      Hi after you enter your post code and suburb in Free NSW delivery appears if you are in nsw

      • Scootex on 05/12/2016 - 14:20

        Perfect! Order placed. Thanks.

        • Store RepAllmowers @ Allmowers on 05/12/2016 - 19:11

          Thanks for the order mate

  • gimmeabreak on 05/12/2016 - 11:18

    Had my Honda for seven years - first class

  • geech on 05/12/2016 - 11:26

    Good deal. Pity it wasn't around earlier - I was leaning toward this model, but ended up buying a Stihl a few weeks ago because they had a huge sale!

  • sillyhead on 05/12/2016 - 11:28
    +1

    Bent shafts ain't bad if your under 170cm. A warning for these Hondas though the tool weight is a couple of kgs more than a decent 2stroke echo or Hitachi say. I guess a factor for tool weight. For most it's well worth it for the easy starting and no mixing.

  • hollykryten on 05/12/2016 - 12:02

    If you're going to buy this 4 stroke line trimmer then use this oil in the motor oil sump as it's the right oil. I use it on a Bushranger B25 line trimmer with a Honda GX25 motor.

    http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Product/Penrite-Small-Engin…

    • PCHammond on 05/12/2016 - 14:27

      If you have a Masters near you, see if they have the Honda 4 stroke oil still. I bought it from masters for about $10 and it has a helpful nozzle built in to make it easier to fill the tiny little oil hole.

      • hollykryten on 06/12/2016 - 22:18

        I doubt there would be any thing left at Masters. Masters is being closed down this month in December, if not already closed down.

  • PCHammond on 05/12/2016 - 14:26

    I bought mine when they were on sale for $350 and RRP was about $379. Then a short while later they dropped to $299. I'm not fussed because it's been an excellent machine and always easy to start.

    Ditch the crappy line it comes with. Allmowers sells the Trail Blazer line, which I found to be damn excellent. The Honda line would always break and annoy me, whereas the Trail Blazer seems to last forever.

    If you just have a normal residential block of land, you may as well get the bent shaft. Why pay about $150 more when you will notice only a small difference? If you have acreage then go for the straight shaft. Sure the straight shaft is better quality but the bent shaft will still last you a long long time.

  • howdee on 05/12/2016 - 14:31

    Honda UMS425, Husqvarna 122C, or Echo GT22GES?

    Btw, on the Husqvarna AU website it's showing the 122C for $189 (down from usual price of $219) - can Allmowers offer this discounted price too?

    • tryagain on 05/12/2016 - 18:49
      +1

      Started to write out a reply comparing ie Honda is a fair bit heavier but packs more power, has less warranty but then had a look on eBay and it looks like you can get the Echo SRM22GES for $60 more than the Honda with the code CAUZ10. I use this unit commercially, it's a great machine and I would take this any day of the week over the other bent shafts.

      • cv05 on 07/12/2016 - 07:53

        tryagain would you be able to recommend some good line for the SRM22GES?

        • tryagain on 08/12/2016 - 00:39
          +1

          I'd go 2.7mm (or bigger), I normally buy in bulk off of eBay and that lasts me a year or two so then just buy what looks best. I don't find the fancy shapes make that much difference but diameter does, one thing I would recommend is a Speed feed head The one on the echo isn't bad but I always take the new head off of a wippy and replace it with one of these if they don't already have one, they just work well.

        • cv05 on 08/12/2016 - 06:50

          @tryagain:

          Thanks mate, ordered the speed feed head as well!

    • Store RepAllmowers @ Allmowers on 05/12/2016 - 22:24

      Can offer the price of $189 only problem they are sold out and on. backorder not due in till mid Jan sorry mate

      • Going Broke on 07/12/2016 - 07:50

        Coupon usage limit reached. Any chance of getting the deal back on?

  • Noddy Doldrums on 05/12/2016 - 17:52

    Had been contemplating a new trimmer for a few weeks . Was undecided about straight v bent but in the end the fact I have a small block tipped me towards the bent shaft. The decent price sealed the deal. Ordered it just now.

    What thickness line does it come with and what thickness can it go up to safely?

    • llama on 05/12/2016 - 19:37

      What thickness line does it come with and what thickness can it go up to safely?

      My guess is 2mm and 2mm respectively.

  • benderz on 05/12/2016 - 22:03

    Have had mine the last 2 years and starts first or second pull every time.

    Only negative is the line gets jammed at least once every time I use it. Easy to fix, but still annoying.

  • shrapse on 06/12/2016 - 02:25

    Bent shaft does indeed suck, also everyone do yourself a favour and get an alex brushcutter head.

  • wendeh on 06/12/2016 - 11:48

    I seem to be getting an error message when i try to place the order "coupon usage limit has been reached".

  • Jit0809 on 06/12/2016 - 22:13

    coupon reached its limit :(

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