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ThinkPad E570 Gen7 i7-7500U, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, GTX950M 2GB, FHD, $1099 Shipped @ Lenovo

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Found this in Lenovo's deals - looks pretty decent for the price tag. Looks like it has an extra RAM slot and room for SSD (can buy for $299, but would recommend getting your own).

Full Specs:

  • Processor - 7th Gen Intel Core i7-7500U Processor (4M Cache, 2.7 GHz, 3.5 GHz max)
  • Operating System- Windows 10 Home 64-bit
  • Display - 15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS, anti-glare
  • Graphics - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M 2GB GDDR5 graphics
  • Memory - 8GB PC4-2400 2400MHz DDR4 (2 SoDIMM), (upgradable to 32 GB max)
  • Webcam - Integrated HD 720p
  • Storage - HDD: 1 TB 5400 RPM, can upgrade to SSD: 128 GB ($199)/ 256 GB OPAL2 ($399)
  • Weight - Starting at 2.3 kg
  • Battery - 4-cell Cylindrical (41 Wh)
  • AC adaptor - 90W AC Adapter (3pin) - Australia , New Zealand
  • Keyboard - 6-row, spill-resistant, multimedia Fn keys, numeric keypad
  • Wireless LAN
  • ThinkPad Dual Band Wireless-AC (2x2 WiFi, 802.11ac) with Bluetooth 4.1

Ports:

  • 2 x USB 3.0
  • 1 x USB 2.0
  • 4-in-1 card reader (MMC, SD, SDHC, SDXC)
  • HDMI
  • Combo audio/microphone jack
  • Ethernet (RJ45)
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  • Aplpw on 18/10/2016 - 15:06

    Not sure whether I need this Graphics - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M 2GB GDDR5 graphics, mainly using MS Word…

    • ChatCPT on 18/10/2016 - 15:08
      +2

      you dont

    • niner on 18/10/2016 - 15:14
      +2

      Get the 14" thinkpad.

    • scrimshaw on 18/10/2016 - 15:20
      +4

      The T-Series is much better quality for office uses.

      The T560 for example, is $1294 if you configure it as such:

      i5-6200u
      15.6 FHD IPS display
      no change to memory (4GB)
      Backlit KB with NumPad
      Fingerprint Reader
      no change to SSD (128gb)
      Thinkpad Battery 6cell - Rear
      65w Slim adapter

      this gets you a kickass workstation that operates on a dual battery config for a whopping 22 hours(!) and it has superb build quality, including backlit KB. Upgrade the RAM yourself for just $30 dollars more.

      it also keeps it's value better too.

      The GTX950M is just … meeeehh .. won't play much of today's games. Dead weight for office user. Battery is also short too at just 41whr.

      • DeadlyCords on 18/10/2016 - 15:37

        Yep agree on the 950M - not ideal for gaming, but for someone like myself who has to run intensive image processing on programs like MATLAB, as well as Illustrator and Photoshop, this is actually a pretty cheap alternative to Mac.

      • SaberX on 18/10/2016 - 17:07

        What do you mean by a dual battery setup? you mentioned 6 cells but yeah - trying to find either a normal large home use 15.6" or the other end of the scale: something 10,11" etc that is portable for travel but also big enough for home use without ruining my eyes - the problem is trying to find something decent priced that runs battery for a decent amount of time.

        Always get battery tests of 6,7,8 hours web browsing and 'normal' work, yet in reality when I web browser and use my laptop I get 3 hrs, 3.5 hrs out of box… never gotten a battery that lasted 4+ hours, even my netbook back 3 or 4 years ago when they used to advertise them at 6-9 hours battery life!! :(

        • scrimshaw on 18/10/2016 - 17:11
          +1

          Dual batteries means two batteries.
          The laptop has a built in 3 cell battery in the front and a detachable 6 cell battery in rear.

        • SaberX on 18/10/2016 - 17:30
          +1

          @scrimshaw:

          oh wow, never heard of that. The weight must be quite heavy then with battery in?

          Would be cool to have that extra battery in a smaller screen laptop for travelling or mobile on the go or at home work (having that option). However, I assume the dual battery setup is only possible in larger, non ultra-book style physiques?

        • tukanglistrik on 18/10/2016 - 17:33

          @SaberX: Have a look at X260 here for small laptop with extended battery https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/271077

        • SaberX on 18/10/2016 - 17:39

          @tukanglistrik:

          Thanks. under $1.1k for a 12.5" interesting. I haven't seen a 12.5" in person - I am still torn between at home having a 15.6" being just right for 99% of the time being plonked at home, and wanting a smaller laptop that is easily shifted to the mrs house at nights, or even to take travelling.

          Having two laptops wouldn't see enough use out of it - and going a cheap travel netbook or sub $600 machine would see the technology slow and clunky compared to a middle ground spec laptop being taken on holidays. Damned whichever way you go haha.

          I did not know the X260 or that Lenovo even had two battery laptops. How is their quality these days for a Chinese company? I know IBM thinkpads have been workhorses for many businesses but am not too sure how Lenovo and Thinkpads are viewed these days since being taken over by the Chinese? Is quality on par with any other retail laptop that is priced between $1-1.8k (mid spec market in my opinion, not high spec high price, or lower spec low price markets) of say the likes of asus, acer, HP and Dell etc?

        • tukanglistrik on 19/10/2016 - 22:28

          @SaberX: 12.5 inch is nice and portable, and the X2xx series have been leading the battery life for quite some time. If you choose 3 + the optional 6 cell, it can run for about 17 hours.

          Thinkpads may not be as tough as they were during IBM days, but still one of the most durable you can find right now. Acer -bad experience with them in the past. HP -can be hit and miss depending on the model. Asus and Dell are on the rise so they're still on my list. But eventually I always come back to Thinkpads due to their build quality, best keyboard and trackpoint. Been using various models for about 10 years now.

        • SaberX on 20/10/2016 - 02:46

          @tukanglistrik:

          thanks. I've never used a thinkpad but noticed alot of finance and business professionals being assigned thinkpads for their employees on the road, and was wondering always if it was a perk they got with pricing or from the sounds of it they seem to be more road worthy and built longer to last.

          I have never really learnt to use a trackpoint button to be honest, and how the mrs uses the inbuilt mouse tracker is a mystery to me. Maybe I need to learn to be proficient as my trusty mouse isn't always there with me! I had only ever had an acer as my netbook, but did notice alot of 'cheaper' end models and prices in jb hi fi and around the place were acer, and I assume you generally get what you pay for.

          DELL i used to be told an acronmyn of 'dont expect to last long' - having never used one in my personal ownership capacity i try to keep an open mind. They always seemed fairly priced but the higher specs to price ratio always seemed to be asus or hp or acer than dells back 4,5 years ago when i used to check them out as a student.

          My main concern with the lenovo's was just whether the build quality and physical quality of components and the laptops themselves stood the test of time given they were largely a chinese company with the ibm thinkpads now all chinese owned. It seems you still believe they're good quality?

          The 17 hours battery life on the X2xx series is pretty impressive. I need to find out how heavy this combo of double batteries are… still not sure how this will look (where is the inbuilt battery? given i assume the 6 cell battery takes up the spot where an usual battery would slot in on other laptop brands?)

          I assume it is despite being 12.5" not as portable for 'travel' when combining the two? Is there no issues though with degrading the internal 3 cell battery life as in the old days being powered into the ac adaptor was a quick way to wearing out the laptop battery - hence even now on my 2012 asus i'm using, I keep myself AC connected at home for hours on end, day in, week out, with the battery removed. Sure if i accidentally trip the ac power switch i lose the data , but that way the battery isn't constantly on charge?

          With the advent of built in batteries these days, particularly with more portable or multi-use devices, have there been issues with deterioration of battery life with constantly charged/AC power source laptops?

        • SaberX on 20/10/2016 - 02:48

          @tukanglistrik:

          oh and when i get some spare time I'll play around with the X260 to see how the ram and HDD upgrades cost as well as the 6 cell battery. I'm asusming the sub $1,100 price on offer is not inclusive of all of these specs unfortunately :(

          not sure how well 12.5" will go down. It's mid way between travel size of 11", but not quite large enough for everyday home use for hours on end (as my 15.6" currently, or even going down to a 14"). Hard choices, if you go the large size screen you suffer travelling, but then again you travel 1 out of 100 times you'd need to use the laptop haha.

          edit: do you have any comment on the quality of thinkpad builds or lenovo in general where these days alot of the higher end models have multi function i.e.: tablet mode, flip /tent mode etc? Is the hinges/build generally alot weaker with these laptops that try to do abit of everything?

        • tukanglistrik on 21/10/2016 - 10:56

          @SaberX: I had X220 and it was the best laptop I ever had, just replaced a few weeks ago with the new Thinkpad 13. Nothing wrong with it, just because I feel like upgrading to newer tech. After almost 5 years it's still functioning perfectly. And it was built by Lenovo. My old T61 had issues with the hinges, and it had the IBM logo, so it really depends on the model. The transition to Lenovo made no difference really as Lenovo were actually the OEM manufacturer for Thinkpad back in the IBM days.

          I can say 12.5" is nice for traveling, the screen is not too small for everyday tasks and you get a full size keyboard. I think with 11" you'd get a smaller keyboard (maybe 90% size).

          Dell is on the rise recently, especially with their very well regarded XPS 13/15 - considered the best in the market right now. I didn't pick them because the keyboard is much better on Thinkpads, and the RAM is soldered.

      • dexx on 18/10/2016 - 18:52
        +1

        The GTX950M is good for gaming. You'd have to pay several hundred dollars more to get better.
        If you arent gaming, then a base model with integrated graphics will save you money and battery life.
        T series is great but its a "Lexus" where this one is just a "Toyota"

        • CVonC on 18/10/2016 - 23:53

          yeah i have a 4gb GTX850M and it's still a decent performer. if not just turn down the eye candy and/or reso. don't listen to those GTX1080 snobs comparing this mobile GPU to a desktop GPU.

        • SaberX on 19/10/2016 - 18:51

          won't integrated graphics also cause the computer to run slow when it processes generic graphics/day to day operations when running the computer (when not gaming)? Or is it negligible performance difference in return for better battery life and pricing?

        • scrimshaw on 19/10/2016 - 19:37

          MSY is did a special for a ASUS ROG gaming laptop $1299 equipped with a powerful i7 HQ CPU, 16GB RAM and GTX 960m, 2tb hdd. It's a lot more suitable for gaming purpose, and other CPU heavy tasks (the processor is quad core as opposed to dual core).

        • scrimshaw on 19/10/2016 - 19:46

          @SaberX:

          The iGPU and CPU are two seperate entities, compute their own stuff, but they do live within the same processor die. So if the iGPU is doing some hard work, it will create some extra heat that the heatsink will have to deal with, and in some cases cause some thermal throttling.

          Adding a discrete GPU will offload some of that work, and discrete GPU's also have their own VRAM. However, discrete GPU's also require additional power to operate, and they also generate heat, which means you need better cooling (this increases weight, and cost). The best of both worlds however, is to just have a external GPU unit (google up 'EXP GDC BEAST' or 'Alienware Graphics Amplifier')

          In day to day operations, this kind of thing is negligible, it doesn't take much processing power to draw a the desktop or playback media. That's something well within the capabilities of modern iGPU's.

        • dexx on 20/10/2016 - 17:51

          @SaberX:
          Integrated graphics in modern laptops is fine for everything except cad work and graphically intensive games. The computer wont run any slower. Battery life with integrated graphics will be double the life of the likes of a GTX950.

    • klumsybot on 18/10/2016 - 18:34

      There are more options. Hit view or customise and you can choose one with integrated graphics for a lower price. They aren't on any sort of special at the moment though.

  • niner on 18/10/2016 - 15:14

    Where the heck is the USB Type C port? Lenovo will not be getting my money unless they stop putting old technology into their laptops.

    • frowny on 18/10/2016 - 15:26
      +2

      Same place as USB C ports on Dells, Asus, Acer, Toshiba, HP and non stupidly underpowered Macbooks!

      Congrats, you saved money!

      • niner on 18/10/2016 - 15:29

        My Dell Precision (2 USB TYpE C), XPS and Latitude 13 has USB Type C ports and so does the HP Zbook. HP elitebooks also have USB Type C ports without thunderbolt 3, though.

        Pity they cost a fortune.

    • dazweeja on 18/10/2016 - 15:30
      -1

      Type C is nice for phones but what's the benefit for a 15.6" laptop where you have room for Type A and HDMI? Type A -> Type C cable and a Type C -> Type C cable does the same job (considering laptops generally don't have high-power USB ports).

      • niner on 18/10/2016 - 15:31
        +1

        Thunderbolt 3!!!

        You can include USB 3.1 Type A, but at least have 1 Type C port. Type C is more than just for phones. Type C can also act as a charging port in some laptops.

        HDMI also works via a USB Type C -> HDMI adaptor if you need another monitor.

        • dazweeja on 18/10/2016 - 15:43
          +1

          Yeah, that's cool. This is a lower-end laptop though - Lenovo do have Thunderbolt 3 in some of their higher models (P50/70 for example).

        • niner on 18/10/2016 - 16:49

          @dazweeja:

          I'm sorry. For some reason I thought this was the T570 or T series laptop.

          I just realised it's the E series, entry level business laptop.
          DOH!

        • klumsybot on 18/10/2016 - 18:18

          I dream of a future where all laptops charge, dock and connect to monitors by one cable - USB C. We're a few years away from that though.

    • klumsybot on 18/10/2016 - 18:26

      Sunrise Lake (100 series PCH) supports skylake (6th gen) and kaby (7th gen) CPUs.

      You want Union Point (200 series PCH) for integrated USB 3.1. I'd bet Lenovo are using Sunrise Lake chipsets on the E series laptops, and keeping Union Point for T, X and P series laptops to "upsell" you if you want that feature.

      Also note that Thunderbolt 3 is not the same as USB 3.1. Thunderbolt 3 is an extension of PCI-E. It uses the same physical plug as USB-C but they are not the same. Thunderbolt 3 demands licensing fees and a faster controller than USB 3.1 which is why a number of manufacturers shy away from it. It's a bit similar to Thunderbolt 2 using the minidp plug.

      What I do see Lenovo changing under the hood of the E570 vs E560 is that it can now offer an nvme slot, so it could do nvme + hdd + dvd.

  • Zylam Marex on 18/10/2016 - 15:30
    +1

    2.3Kg…

    • DeadlyCords on 18/10/2016 - 15:35
      +7

      STARTING at 2.3kg - Don't worry, it can be heavier if you want

    • niner on 18/10/2016 - 15:37
      +1

      15", $1100 laptop.

      Don't complain cheapo

  • Aplpw on 18/10/2016 - 15:49

    Does it has 4G? If it does not, which Lenovo models have ?

  • niner on 18/10/2016 - 16:50

    I highly recommend anyone thinking of buying a Lenovo to get a T series laptop. They're a hundred times better. The prices aren't too much higher either now that they're trying to clear old stock.

    • klumsybot on 18/10/2016 - 18:20

      Sometimes harder to physically disaseemble on the T series. Ever since the T440 it's a nightmare to get the keyboard off, while E series seem easier.

      • Danthemanz on 18/10/2016 - 20:59

        Modern T series mainly is removing the whole magnesium alloy bottom, only a few screws. Gives you access to ram, hdd, m2 slot etc.
        Fantastic business machines they are and some good prices going on the T460/S/P.

        This E series is a pretty dam good deal though with a lot of CPU power and some extra gpu too. If you can deal with the weight that is.

  • chiuy on 18/10/2016 - 21:47
    -1

    FN / CTRL key position dealbreaker. =(

    • [Deactivated] on 18/10/2016 - 22:50
      +1

      The keyboard layout has been like that since IBM.

    • scrimshaw on 18/10/2016 - 22:53
      +2

      this can be swapped by changing one setting in the BIOS. It's not a deal breaker, I assure you.

      • chiuy on 18/10/2016 - 23:04

        :o
        Really? Like actually?
        Is it a recent BIOS option?

        • scrimshaw on 18/10/2016 - 23:04
          +2

          Maybe more than a decade ago.. not a new function. been doing it since Core 2 duo days.

    • Powershopz on 19/10/2016 - 09:31

      It's not.

      You can swap them.

  • [Deactivated] on 18/10/2016 - 22:36

    What would people recommend between this and the 17" ideapad 700? for $200 more?
    http://www3.lenovo.com/au/en/deals/current-offers/laptop-for…

    Also doesn't Lenovo do 7.5% cashrewards?

    • scrimshaw on 18/10/2016 - 23:04

      That's a 17" desktop replacement, completely different beast. The Ideapad series is also consumer oriented, as opposed to business oriented laptop, so it lacks the traditional IBM keyboard layout, no trackpoint (the 'Nipple'), no backlit KB, no fingerprint reader, no smartcard reader, no LTE option and no port replicator support.

      The CPU is much faster, but the GPU is one tier below (hopeless for any sort of gaming)

      • [Deactivated] on 18/10/2016 - 23:19

        Sorry so the CPU is faster in the ideapad and the GPU is slower?
        Thanks for your advice.

  • [Deactivated] on 18/10/2016 - 22:48

    I am sure the laptop has GDDR3 just like the one that is sold in the states.

  • [Deactivated] on 19/10/2016 - 21:33

    can anyone confirm the cashrewards 7.5% cashback on sale items at lenovo?

    • tukanglistrik on 19/10/2016 - 22:31

      Yep, as long as the coupon code is listed in cashrewards. Note that 7.5% is calculated from price without GST.

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