How do you deal with Depression?
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How Do You Deal with Depression?
fruit on 24/09/2016 - 15:48
Last edited 26/09/2016 - 12:29 by 1 other user
Last edited 26/09/2016 - 12:29 by 1 other user
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typical, the first person to post is ignorant and offensive. Its no wonder people hate the stigma more than illness.
Thought OP wasn't serious by saying "The body of your forum topic is too short. You need at least 10 words". Also he could've shared his story so we know a bit more about the problem to help him better
It's a tough call sometimes here on OzB, you often don't really know when somebody is being serious or trolling.
Personally, I didn't find your initial comment particularly offensive; overly flippant for a serious question, yes; but overtly offensive, not really. Given the overall context on here at times, it was actually pretty mild.
Mental health has little to do with wealth
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Hope you are okay OP
Fruit you doing OK or just a query?
'Fruit lives matter!' lol
OP I hope you're OK. Please talk to a GP, counselor or psychologist.
This.
Please see your GP, fruit; they are usually very good at providing the appropriate interim medication & referral pathways for you.
Not saying that the other suggestions regarding lifestyle change isn't pertinent to some extent for all of us, but the frontline treatment here in the short term should be medical & allied health professionals.
Let me echo the sentiments of the other sane commenters, we all hope you're doing OK, but if you're not please reach out to someone, you don't have to deal with this yourself. I find Lifeline have a very well trained team if you find yourself in crisis & don't have anywhere else to call: https://www.lifeline.org.au/
Take care dude…
Professionals are your first port of call. All my very best, mate.
If your current GP doesn't seem like any help, please muster the energy to find another. I know it's expensive and can be time consuming but it's worth it. They can really help.
they are usually very good at providing the appropriate interim medication & referral pathways for you.
No they are not and they should be the first ones to inform you of this.
Assuming you can afford the "appropriate" treatment - which to be clear many people cannot - the rates of treatment being beneficial is terrible - about 30%.
Modern medicine is not able to fix everything.
Get a mental health plan done by the GP and you get 10 free sessions per calendar year with a psychologist. Plenty of bulk billing ones around too.
Not expensive at all.
@Clear:
To add to this you can also access ATAPS for another 18 odd sessions with a psych, if financially strained.Respectfully disagree diji; combo of meds and the right counselling helps the majority of people in some way and with Medicare meds and counselling are highly subsidised or free in many cases.
Also, if you're a student at any institution, there should be free counselling services on campus. There's many support networks available, you're not alone and there's many people willing to help you recover. All the best!
Start by cleaning up your diet. Plenty of fruits & vegetables, lean protein sources. High protein reduced fat milk,Chobani yoghurt, Tuna, breast chicken. I also suggest Oats and wheat-germ. Cut out all the rubbish Sugar Alcohol ect. Take fish oil and vitamin D if low see a DR get a blood test done to check. Join a gym see a PT to get program suited your circumstances and abilities. Exercise especially strength training is one of the best things you can do for depression & anxiety. Also don't be afraid to see a professional DR or therapists if you find issue is ongoing. Being open about depression doesn’t make you weak sadly a common issue today for people of all ages.
OP username checks out
Many famous and intelligent people of history suffered depression
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2015/03/31/managing-depression…
A great resource to start with
All of this plus sunshine, social interaction and affection.
It doesn't hurt to get out of the city and amongst nature for some fresh air either.
exercise. everyday - go for a walk for 15 minutes.
Definitely seek medical help OP.
I have never suffered with depression but I've found meditation to have worked wonders on my outlook. That may be something you can try in the future.
Feel free to PM me anytime!
Grab a bargain
OP you should go on a facebook support page and talk to people who suffer it they are very helpful. There are only a handful of nice people on here so you will likely just get a lot of abuse and ignorance as already shown.
call lifeline 13 11 14 they are really helpful - they are not just for suicide, they actually just help you with a lot of things that you are finding hard to deal with.
I disagree. Facebook can be quite public and there is still a lot of stigma surrounding mental health in Australia. Going to a doctor should be the first step in seeking effective treatment.
Yes people have already said go to the doctor multiple times and I agreed, i thought there was no point repeating it again. If you go on any public page then yes but specific support pages usually moderate the trolls out
Facebook (and social media in general) related peer pressure & associated bullying is frequently identified as a major stressor by my clients with comorbid anxiety & depression.
It also seems to be a self-perpetuating cycle of abuse too, and getting people to detach (or even just step back) from it is bloody hard, even if they are cognizant that it is clearly in their best interests. :/
I applaud you for trying to think outside the box here, but my instincts would be telling me to avoid such a potentially toxic (and somewhat dangerously anonymous) online environment; IMHO anyway, but YMMV.
I didn't think you comment was neg-worthy, nothing wrong with stating your position…here's a Sunday charity + to balance it out! :)
Try and take a holiday every 6 months. Even if it is for 2-3 days.
Hey OP psych here; find someone to talk to. find the right person who gels for you, doesn't have to be expensive and gp can put you in touch with a bulk billing psychologist. It's not an easy road to go down but talking about it shares the load, meds can help too if you are open to this, again see gp.
Depression?
Most likely to work to least likely:
- Medication
- Doctor/Psych
- Friends (!!!!!!!!)
- Sex
- Exercise
- Money/Bonus
- Right Diet
- Getting a good deal
- Fine whiskey and a cigar
- Eneloops, if you keep a packet under your pillow they help recharge your dreamsBut seriously, you okay fruit?
I don't think medication should be first on that list, but yes holistic approach to life.
I don't think so either, but its the only thing on the list that has factual evidence of response and results.
The holistic approaches seem like better alternatives, but they're within the error margin.
Cause science and all…Or simply "different strokes for different folks"
You forgot: Fishing ( with friends ). But that might you go from Depressed to Frustrated.
Just don't isolate yourself.
I take medication for it. Works a for me.
Talk to your doctor about options.
I strongly recommend Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (a form of psychological treatment) +- medications as required. It worked for me during two six-month long periods of severe depression in my late teens & early 20s. All the best!
And yet CBT and DBT were a waste of time for me. OP, talk to your GP, get a referral to a psychiatrist and begin to show love for yourself.
Sorry to salvage this old thread, but if CBT/DBT were ineffective for you, what ended up working?
Have you seen a doctor? If it is due to chemical imbalance, medication is required and not just CBT/DBT. It is different for everyone of course, but a doctor will probably be able to properly diagnose what you need.
Also try long walks in the sun with nature (not so much in concrete jungle) or excercise.
BTW there is also Seasonal Affective Disorder, where a person gets more depressed in winter. Thought I'll mention, just in case.
You can also try Stoicism - it may be helpful for some, if depression is not medically-based - see my past comment.
Try to think about the things that have a greater meaning in your life, and try to take active steps towards them. As someone already said, healthy eating and exercise is ALWAYS a prerequisite to that since its hard to achieve much in bad health.
An example, is for me, family and sustainability is important, so I look after my health, and learn lots about maintainance of my house and bike and anything I own. I like watching docos on health and life and I listening intently at my parents to see how I can help them in anyway, and they appreciate the attentiveness I give them.
When you achieve or feel like you work towards a higher goal, you will definitely feel better in life!
Pragmatic optimism!
Truthfully a clean diet always boosts my mood. Whenever I relapse onto junk food for a few days I begin to feel like shit, physically and mentally.
I'm going to try and answer the opposite question. This is how you will NOT overcome anxiety and depression:
1. Feeling sorry for yourself
2. Not having a quality sleep
3. Eating a chaotic diet including fast food, refine carbs, trans fats, sodas and refined sugar
4. Being sedentary and sitting a lot
5. Overthinking about your anxiety and depression
6. Not forcing yourself to have a side hobby. Any hobby.
7. Not paying attention on how you breath on the assumption that breathing is so natural it can't possible go wrong
8. Assuming that things will go back to normal without you doing anything about it
I generally have sex with my partner when ever i get stressed or depressed, it helped me almost everytime.
thanks for the info!
I go fishing. Cast my troubles ( trebles ) away. Enjoy the soothing of water splashing. I come home a new man.
The other option ( 1 a year ) is hide from my family for 1H and cry my heart and soul out.Let us know when your partner is available
after long enough its become the norm i guess
If you have debt issues I suggest turning off ozbargain for a while and taking time out of buying anything.
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hit the gym everyday. no matter what.
Start Vit D. It is cannot be felt but brings horrible depression if deficient. It might take 3-6 months to affect and everyday take 4/5 tablets, if you are deficient.
Speak to people, strangers, friends.. anyone but speak face to face or telephone. Not on whats app or online.
Hope that will help you a lot.
Background for me: I've had depression and anxiety issues for 10 years since 17, seen psychs since then, I've been hospitalised for attempted suicide, and currently dealing with that sort of thing again. Reading through these posts I found a lot of them just really unhelpful, like people oversimplify it and think it's easy so if you're similar then you'll probably just feel worse as people really just don't get what it's like, so I thought I'd share my experiences.
Some will say gym. I go gym every day, if anything, makes me feel worse. I'm extremely fit, love the way my muscles bulge, but I'm also single and struggle with relationships. Exercise is meant to help you release endorphines etc., but for some it just does nothing.
Some say anti-depressants, vitamins, etc. -> They can definitely help, and definitely worth trying. But you need to try a few, and be open to really difficult periods of time when you change as they are a bitch. Sometimes they won't work though, they just numb you through life, and not sure that's worth living through. Definitely worth getting blood tests with doctors though just to check for testosterone levels and whether there's any abnormalities.
Some say friends and psychologists. I'm completely open with them, I develop strategies with them, I tell them if I think I might kill myself that night and we talk it out or play games and distract me. But maybe you don't have friends or you don't feel comfortable with them, so that makes it difficult. And they're not always around at 2am when all you want to do is overdose. I do think talking to psychologists FOR ME at least has been the most helpful although extremely difficult, so I'd definitely recommend it, but may not be an option for you.
Also the pathway of illicit drugs. They can help, but they just numb the pain and they can be pretty expensive. I'm currently on some atm, definitely helps for a time, but you gotta be careful going down this way. Addiction is its own problem and can make you worse. But they are some illicit drugs that can definitely buy you some time to increase your mood for a few months until you have to stop taking them for safety reasons (i.e., to prevent long-term abuse/addiction from occurring).
So really, there is no guaranteed solution. You just have to fight it with all you got and keep trying, find something you think is worth living for and if that's not enough, then take your life. Although it's an unpopular opinion, I for one as someone who suffers from it daily would not blame you and understand why you did it as it can be intensely difficult.
For myself, I would say that despite the years, there are some moments I've found that have truly have been just beautiful crystallized fragments of time that have been worth the suffering and I yearn to have again in future. I haven't had one of those for maybe 3 years now, and it really sucks when they are so rare and the pain is truly intense, but we just gotta hold on to those moments and hope it gets better.
Good luck man. Hope you work it out one way or another.
What gear are you taking?
Being with friends and talking to them, can help overcome depression, well for me personally
fruit lives matter too, lol :D
Money, travelling, lots of friends, confidence, girl/girls and a good family
Healthy body
Frequent exercise
Improving every day in some aspect
Making right decisions boosts your own confidence
The sense of achievement is the single best treatment for depression
Read one new thing every day
Exercise for 15mins everydayIt would be much cheaper to buy those medicines locally, rather than paying US prices
The single best thing I've ever done for my mental health is to drink a smoothie or 2 every day. Sometimes I notice that my mood hasn't been good and I straight away realise its because I missed a smoothie the day before.
Also try not to consume any sugar, maybe it's just me but a sugar crash isn't much fun when things aren't going well.
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