I think this is now the cheapest this drive has been - just.
Prime not required.
VAT is removed at checkout:
Promo Price: €179,99
Price Less VAT: €149,99
Delivery (3000): €12,60
Total: €162,59
Roughly $239 depending on how you pay (i.e. 28 Degrees etc..) - or a bit more if you end up paying international card fees.
I just ordered one - est. delivery 27th July.
StaticIce is showing ~$350 + delivery for local stock.
Enjoy!
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Seems 1 TB is at the impulse buy pricing now ……. not sure why people would buy 500gb especially for notebooks as they only have one sata connector.
I am after 500GB though. After 3 in fact (different brands to avoid a bad batch) to backup the family photos
Backup photos to the cloud using Google Photos. Free unlimited storage (not in Original quality, however) and fantastic searching capability
:o is it really unlimited
not in Original quality … not a true backup then IMHO. Better then nothing sure I guess… but I would not say "it's there so I have a recoverable back up" -because you can't recover the original data.
@Elijha:
That might be technically true, but for many users they would view a backup as simply being able to recreate the image they uploaded.
Sure, there are users who want to keep 20MP+ DSLR quality .raw photos, and for those people Google Photos isn't an appropriate storage solution.
@havok44:
Yes. I have over 24,000 photos (and video). In fact, it's often backed up TV episodes/movies which have been put on a device.
Anything that is important enough should be backed up to multiple media types as all media eventually (5 or 500 years) fail.
I would backup to 2-3 copies on optical media (CD's seem more stable than DVDs, Bluray is more stable than CD/DVD) and give one copy to someone you trust so you have physical isolation of the data (fire, earthquake, flooding).
Cloud storage is nice (such as google photos which I use every day) but it's too out of your control for long term storage / safety.
There is also M-disc media which can be recorded to with newer LG drives, however media is difficult to get hold off.
What's with the hard on for optical media? The far majority of them are not designed to be an archive media, and the disks that are, are very expensive.
I wouldn't back up anything to optical media in this day and age.
True the M-disc media (which is designed for archiving according to the manufacturer) is more expensive than normal media, however what is the price of keeping precious memories?
In terms of the 'hard-on' as you put it, optical media is
1 ) Easily accessible in most devices (that have optical drives) compared to say a SATA based device that involves more work to connect (USB withholding)
2 ) Resists water damage (Try submerging an SSD or HDD in water and see if it lasts)
3 ) Resists drops (Try dropping a HDD from 1 meter a few times and tell me if its still readable)
4 ) Light, thin and easily portable
5 ) Resistant to dust, vibrations, static electricity, magnetic fields
In terms of using BD-R media for backup, the method of burning involves fusing two different alloys together, therefore resulting in a more reliable burn than the methods used by CD or DVD (note that LTH media for durability however does not apply as it uses a different method). Last time I checked you can get a spindle of 10 BD-R for $30 (at HN) which equates to $3 per 25Gb of storage… Burn two copies and you're looking at $6 for 25gb of storage.
To me, storing data on optical disc gives me the most peace of mind, granted its not for everyone, but I've seen enough hard drives and SSD's randomly fail out of the blue to NOT put my faith in them for long term storage expecting it to be readable in the future.
As an extra level of protection you can use something like multipar (https://multipar.eu/) to add additional error correction to your files in the event corruption occurs (regardless of what recording/storage method you use)
If you are paying through the nose for an m disk, you would be much better off paying through the nose for a rugged hard drive or an LTO solution (industry standard for archive media).
1) The point is moot when you say you won't take into consideration USB drives. Take that into consideration and the argument gets turned against disks. Considering you can buy a sata+power to USB adapter for less than $5, it must be factored into the equation.
2) Optical media does not resist water damage, look up 'disk rot' and you will find out why. Just the water in the air we breathe is enough to destroy optical media over time. If you are needing a storage solution in a wet environment then a rugged drive that's actually designed for the purpose would be the way to go.
3) If you are prone to dropping storage media then you shouldn't get either a disk or a normal hard drive, you should be using rugged media designed to take a fall. I strongly disagree with you suggesting that an optical disk is designed to take a fall.
4) A disk is actually significantly larger than a portable hard drive. Once you factor is a similar storage capacity then a stack of disks are significantly heavier too.
5) A disk is actually much more sensitive to dust and vibrations causing read/write errors. Static electricity and magnetic fields - well now it's tin foil hat territory.
6) Your last point where you want to show how 'cheap' they can be when using the cheapest media at $3/25GB ($0.11/GB) is actually really, really expensive. Compare that against 4TB for $140 ($0.035) or around 3 times cheaper.
I understand you want to help people, but really disks are not more cost effective, efficient, safe or have anything over other media - besides being able to used as a frisbee when they are no longer needed. Maybe there is a point that you didn't mention that may make me reconsider, but as is they are not suited to anything besides a delivery format. They also have significantly slower read/write speeds.
If you are actually serious about long term archival storage then look into using LTO Ultrium tapes, followed by hard drives. Right now in front of me I have 70+ TB of archived data on LTO tapes, the thought of having to use disks would make me quit, and if they used hard drives instead then my job would be a lot quicker in some tasks.
Thank you for your response…. As much as I'd love to present my counter arguments and views to your points, I do not want this to be a back and fro discussion that serves no purpose other than to detract from the original bargain post. I am however happy to continue this as a forum post if you wish.
I will finish up by saying I've magically found myself in a worm hole and gone back in some some 16 years when LTO was released.. I've stored my data on an LTO tape. Fast forward to the future only 16 years or so and can I easily restore it on the new LTO6 drive I've just bought (hypothetically)?
(Makes swooshing noise) I've now gone back to the 80s and based on your advice, archived my data on a seagate ST-225 hard drive … Can I easily restore / access the data?
Kind Regards
I'll take that as you don't actually have counter claims to my points if you don't want to debate them, especially if you introduce a new argument in your closing argument which I will counter below.
An LTO is an industry standard archive solution, meaning that you would still retain the drive if you still have data on the tapes. In addition, backup solutions look at migrating data across formats when you adopt a new standard, meaning if you invested in an LTO solution you would either migrate the data across to new media or you would keep the decks that you used to read/write them until they are no longer relevant. LTO solutions are not for consumers, they are designed to make walls and walls of tape backups to be a cost effective solution. I didn't intend to be telling people to get one, just that it is the industry standard for long term data archiving.
So yes, to answer your question that tape from 16 years ago would read fine provided you kept the drive. Now if I joined you in that wormhole chances are that a user made CD from 16 years ago will not still be readable, the inks were not designed to last that long 16 years ago.
Using your example of 25GB of blu ray disk for $3 - you can get 3x the HDD space compared against blu ray media for the same price. You could have 3x offsite drives where 2 can fail for the cost of a single blu ray backup, and the hard drives would fit in your pocket but you would need ~160 blu ray disks to make up 4TB if using 25GB/$3 disks.
You can live in your bubble where optical media is still relevant as a backup solution, that's fine if it works for you, but surely you acknowledge that external hard drive solutions are safer, cheaper, faster and better in every aspect?
Evening.
You can take it however you wish, but I simply do not wish to debate them here as it does not seem to be the appropriate venue, and I am happy to continue the discussion in the forum ( I suspect there is probably a thread along the lines of ideal backup medium for long-term storage).
While I acknowledge the benefits of external hard drives ( I have quite a few of them (2.5 + 3.5 flavours )) I cannot claim they are better in every aspect as that is making a broad statement as if they are the greatest thing since sliced bread with no weaknesses.
Every technology has its place and its purposes. Comparing optical media with hard drives and then saying hard drives are cheaper and faster is a bit like comparing oranges to lemons.
I just tested a one of the earliest CD-R's I own (Mitsui Gold) dated July 1997 (19 years ago) and all files were readable. Tested a Kodak Silver Plus Ultima (Dated November 1999) - all files readable, and lastly TDK (AZO based) from November 2000 - All files ok :)
Why do you need an SSD to store photos?
Surely you would be better off with a 4TB 2.5" portable drive for around the same price as a 500GB SSD for photo storage…
because I've got 2 mechanical drives with photos stuck inside them. Just spins and clacks :(
SSD doesnt spin or make noises - the less moving parts the better right?
No.
If you have had bad luck with HDDs spinning and clacking then chances are you are going to have problems with SSDs also, due to PEBKAC errors.
I get PEBKAC errors all the time too. I think the 960GB SSD will solve it - at least that's what I tell my wife.
My thinking is also along these lines. Archive hd drives don't get a lot of use. I am currently archiving a couple of hundred cds and dvds of photos and music to a 3tb mirror in an external housing. I obviously agree with having more than one copy, but no more than 2, or things get unnecessarily complicated. A mirror is nice and easy.
I use a different drive for backing up (this is different to archiving) data and creating a monthly image of my working system.
I believe that optical media is on the way out, and has been for a while. My current laptop has no optical drive. I bought a $25 external samsung dvd writer for transferring archives to hdd.
Also, if an SSD isn't powered up regularly, you can lose your data, as it needs to be powered to keep it's memory.
If you store your photo's on an SSD and then put it in storage for a few years, you may well have lost all your photos.
Replace the optical drive slot with a HDD/SSD caddy from eBay and you've got yourself 2 SATA connectors.
a caddy for SSDs? Dangle that shiz inside your case.
HDD currently dying, was about to buy a 480G model locally for $200, plus $100 for a HDD for extra storage. This model for this price seems like perfect timing.
Oh for heaven's sake.
mussstt stop buyyying sssssdddddds
4 gigs of SSD per dollar. thats a new low!
I have a 256GB SSd for my games that is full. Gosh this is tempting.
Cant wait till 2017 when these things get even cheaper!
i have to buy this……….
might get 2 for my new build, store my VM's on it
What's the warranty process like? Can I send it direct to SanDisk Aus or do I have to go via Amazon?
Great price. I'm building a new PC in early October. Any advice if this is worth buying now?
Took the plunge, bought.
Just curious, how do you manage to find cross region amazon deals like this? Im in the market for the WD my book duo 8tb
Many thanks :)
Would anyone know why the amazon kindle paperwhite wont ship to aus when you add it to cart on amazon.com? It says it ships to aus.
Bought, thanks OP. Personally, I've been waiting for the Samsung EVO 850 to drop to $250 but with my Oculus just arriving a couple of days ago, I can't put off building my new PC any longer even if it means slightly less performance with this Sandisk. Hopefully, it's at least reliable.
cheers OP, bought one instantly after I missed out on the amazon US deal overnight $164 USD for same hdd. Without direct shipping, so this is probably cheaper for $236 AUD delivered to my door directly instead of shipping forwarder.
Has anyone received a "payment declined" email from Amazon before? There's a $1.47 pending transaction from Amazon France, so the card is working. I've bought stuff from the US and German ones before using the same card, so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
It's a debit mastercard (not that it should matter) and I paid using their converter. Hope it goes through alright…
I used 28 degrees card. I too have $1.47 applied to the card, but it was followed with full transaction value also being charged. Both transactions are still sitting as pending, but Amazon says it is dispatched, got a tracking number for i-parcel, which has not done much other than to say the package is taken off hold in GB, same status since last couple of days.
Ah, only if they sell this in Australia with this price I'm very tempted in getting some. Pity. Good price, hope they keep going down.
i get Total payment: AUD 245.67
$239 is for people who pay with a 28 Degrees or Citibank card. Other cards/banks will add a 2-3% foreign currency fee (often shows up as a separate transaction, but looks like it's being added to the total in your case).
You have to pay in Euros NOT US $$. If you use US $$ then it will be $245 AUD, if you use Euro then it will be $235 AUD. Pus any charges form your credit card.
On the payment screen it defaults to USD $$ so change to Euro (button half way down on the right side)
Maybe, I use the 28 Deg MC.
Price has gone back up above 200EUR: 187EUR ex VAT
My Parcel is being sent by I-Parcel. The reviews on this company is bad. Has anyone had problems with them, as this is the first time for me buying a physical item from Amazon.
Mine is also dispatched through I-parcel. I got Nvidia shield from Amazon US, delivered through I-parcel with Australian delivery done by Aussie Post. We were not at home so the parcel was taken to the post office for pick up. Only issue I had is once it is dispatched you can't track it because once Australia Post gets it the parcel is allocated a new tracking number and there is no way of knowing that number unless you have actually received the parcel. I have read that in some cases Amazon also gives the AP tracking number, but did'nt get any for this one too.
Thanks for the info. Amazon did give me a tracking number and i went to the i-parcel website. It took 4 days to get to their facility. I expect it won't arrive until early next month.
Received mine yesterday, 6 days before estimated delivery date.
I know the price will going down, but don't know it is down so quick just like my sleeping time…