The missus came home after doing some shopping for face creams and stuff. And proud as punch she was showing off this Avene Thermal Spring Water spray she got for the bargain price of ~$20 for 300ml, down from ~$26.
http://www.avene.com.au/avene-thermal-spring-water/thermal-sā¦
That's right folks, $20 for a 300ml can of water.
So when has your SO come home with a bargain that has just made you shake your OzB head with despair?
Lol. You are the master of never understanding.
So why did you purchase a 144 Hz monitor?
FPS gameplay felt much smoother to me but my wife couldnt sense anything different. It is not psychological, 144hz is really smooth as butter. If I go back to a 60hz screen, I could literally see my mouse icon in windows teleport. That is how much difference it makes.
100% true, I have one with 1440p, g-sync and it's the shiz.
@KaTst3R: It's the model before they re-badged it as the predator.
I just had alot of disposable income at the time, cost $800 when I got it really cheap.
Where did your wife get $10 OPI!! HA
Priceline?
https://www.priceline.com.au/opi-nail-lacquer-15-ml
But i remember David Jones was selling for $15 to $20 or so.
I have been in the same situation before. She argued why I bought battlefield 4 while I have COD. I tried to explain the difference but she replied both shooting people isn't? mouth shut here :( or why I bought FIFA 15 when I have FIFA 14.
I get the why buy PS4 when you have PS3. Or worse why when you have an Xbox .. Oh well
My mum used to give me the same story when I was younger…
You get those large Avene waters for 2 for $20 at Chemist Warehouse when they are on promotion. Still too expensive, but whatevs. The small 50ml ones come as free bonuses with the Avene skincare packs so I have a stash of these in the cupboard. Water in a can is a total rip whichever way you look at it, but is nice in summer. I don't know whether the water alone "works" but their Hydrance moisturisers that also contain the water seriously do work and are worth every cent.
Avene PR in full force today
They have good products. End of story. Avene products quite literally save my sanity. If you don't have or have never had problematic skin you probably can't appreciate it.
But it's literally just water…
… but it feels so nice because the can sprays a very fine mist.
Must have a good marketing department…
Rofl. Avenes competitors are really pissed off. Haha
@Ughhh: Interesting, the only person talking positive about water in a can is you. Not only that, but you get them for free; perks of the job perhaps? try paying for them and see if you love them as much. Not sure what you think you're trying to imply when you keep accusing everyone of being in PR; perhaps you need to spray some more water, you're sounding paranoid.
I got mine for free from gifts with purchase, if you can read. My likely good of being a PR is the same as yours- competitors bagging competitors, nothing new. I also guess you either missed fruits comment above, you cherry pick or you simply can't read.
I'm not the only one talking positives (maybe you really can't read), plus my positives are for what and how I use it as mentioned. Perhaps you need to wash your eyes with the water.
Lmao paranoid. You're funny.
*likeliness
I agree with you, Sparkles. I have sensitive (but not problematic) skin, but I have a problematic brain.
Every medicine we use starts in "hogwash" territory. Eventually we find one ingredient is clinically useful.
Same with skin care.
If it does no harm. If there is no proven medical alternative. If you think it makes a difference. And if you can afford it.
Then why not?
I personally have had my "life changed" by kiels hydroplumper moisturiser which is like 80 bucks a bottle. Worth every penny
I personally have had my "life changed" by kiels hydroplumper moisturiser
Let me guess, no more saggy balls ? ;)
Yup now I'll be known as plumpballs
But in all seriousness it was amazing for seborrhoeic dermatitis on a background of oily skin
Use a normal moisturiser-> get oily and shiny
Use no moisturiser -> get itchy and need steroid cream. Not something you want long term on ya face (like my saggy…wait wut)
Similar
It's a specific type limited to the eyebrows and nose secondary to a flaky scalp. Flakes fall-> irritate skin -> localised eczema like (not as severe but still very annoying) reaction
Let's just put a positive spin on this, if you're attacked by a naughty kitten then you're pretty well forearmed with squirty water…could save your life!
Never.she was an ozbargainer way before I became one. I've offended her ozb sensibilities a few times. I've been guilty of paying RRP for ice-cream at the independent supermarket down the road even when knowing they were half price at colesworth.
$20 for a can of water…oh god that's funny š
Most nights after work my boyfriend stops off at the servo to buy a family bag of malteasers ($7), chips ($5) and a chocolate bar ($3), he doesn't look at specials, 2 for 1 deals or anything and refuses to go to the supermarket. When I try to buy these items myself on sale to keep in the cupboard, he will devour them all in one sitting so I'm not saving anything.
I wrote a shopping list and put '1 avocado' on it and he couldn't understand why the total shop was so expensive, I looked at the receipt and he'd bought a bag of avocados for $13.99, when I questioned him he said 'you told me you buy in bulk to save money!'. We had guacamole on everything for a week.
Sent him out to buy 4 light bulbs, he bought 2 x 2 packs for $15 a pack. 'I thought light globes were all like $2 so I didn't look at the price!'
Some advice to you - confiscate your BF's cards. He's not qualified to shop.
I would if I could, unfortunately he mainly gets paid in cash (works for himself), whenever clients pay into his account I confiscate immediately.
He can only be trusted with $10 tops based on those stories.
I have a near meltdown internally when I see someone rip themselves off so I'd struggle to live with a person like that. I look at the opportunity cost of everything. Save $50, one way to Sydney for a weekend. Save $100 gets me a fifth of the way to Europe. I'm not sure it's healthy but it puts it into perspective for me to equate savings into things that hold high value to me.
If he works for himself, please check in occasionally to ensure his business remains solvent. Based on your few examples he does not seem to understand value.
yesterday was behind someone ordering all the items of a HJ meal separately (about 2x the price) and was almost exploding not saying anything.
And his man card too.
Maybe he is like super rich so his time/convenience is way more valuable than his money.
Like it would only be worth bill gate's time to pick up tens of thousands from the floor.
refuses to go to the supermarket? does he have a phobia there?
Perhaps ozbargain should start up a training courses for our special non-frugal spouses
You need to start wearing the pants and he needs to start wearing the dress.
Used to always wonder if anyone bought things in store, well now I know.
Does he have the metabolism of Usain Bolt also?
He would say what is OzB first off. Then he will do the veggie shopping today and buy the cheapest, including bulk bucket deals - which sometimes are just cheap and oversupply, but mostly are on their last and go off before they can be used. Yeah, saved a bundle. The cheap stuff can be genuinely just in abundance, but it can be poor quality and old. I can't get it through to him that a few at a higher price is cheaper then bargains at get thrown out.
I offered to pay for my housemate's meal at a place during shop small and just get her to pay me the difference after the cashback but she didn't want to bother with using multiple credit cards :/
My SO is fine though. Very thrifty. She did buy a $9US juice in LA when we were there a few years ago which I was spewing about as I sucked down my 1/4 gallon 99c soda.
On that note, I always offer to pay for friend's meals when we're out as a group. They pay pay me back later and I get my 2% cashback with ING.
My SO insists on turning on the Air Con (heating) often, it doesn't get as cold as Eastern States. I hate wasting power when I just go and put an extra layer of clothes on. Anyway…I'm getting used to the couch.
My SO just orders stuff online sometimes without using cashrewards, also whenever she goes to woolies she never uses egift cards even though i always make sure to send her the card number and pin as an sms to make it easier.
cashrewards? egift cards?
You sound like my SO
I checked out cashrewards, it looks all good.
I'm guessing you somehow get egift cards on special though I'm not sure how.
I don't even try to tell my SO about cash rewards. And Woolworths gift cards - I do exactly the same as you and I get complaints that it's too much trouble.
I downloaded and installed the Woolworths Money app on both mine and the wife's phone. You can add your egift card numbers to it and when shopping you can just open the app, and it shows the egift card details and the current balance. Makes it super easy!!!
I use that app too. Less hanssle of going through emails or texts to find the card number.
My wife and I just share a Google keep post-it note with egiftcards details noted and updated with remaining value. I don't like too many apps installed :)
We use Wunderlist now (ios and android). you can add the gift card details there and pin the post so it stays on top. useful if you also use wunderlist for your shopping list.
$6 kettle chips at a convenient store, which she then admitted taste gross, she had a couple pieces only. What a waste.
When my SO 'bargain blocks' me - I know it's a great deal, it's genuinely useful and unlikely to be repeated but "we don't need it right now and it'll come back on special."
The worst one I missed was this deal https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/139715 I even had club catch at the time to boot! :(
When you know its a once off deal that you don't want to miss you just have to buy it and deal with the situation when it arrives at the house. Your relationship will survive and in time all will be forgiven and forgotten.
Really insignificant but i asked husband to buy bread rolls. I thought it was 5 for $1, it was 6 for $1. So he came back with 5 bread rolls and paid $1.25. Whhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyy!?!?!??!
well u cant really complain that he never listens… lol
What does SO mean? Shit one?
Significant other.
I thought Special One.
Oh hang on, that's mourinho…
oh thank you, now I know
I initially read it as "When has OzBargain offended your sensibilities?"
…
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never?
Shouldn't that be IO. Insignificant Other or ML Money Leech!
oic
literally ROFL at work.
When she bought dyson hot cool for $399… While normal fan heater is $15…
Yeah but it's dyson… She says…
Fell for the dyson meme
My girlfriend is less picky with her purchases when it comes to things we need. I kinda go for a bargain (perhaps sometimes little bit compulsive) and would prefer to wait longer whereas my girlfriend tend to just buy things if we need them (even if it is not a bargain per se). That said, I buy things that we don't necessarily need right now (i.e. buying a 5 port charger when in practice, I mostly needed 2 port charger), so I guess as much as she offends my Ozbargain sensibility, I offend her "buy things we need" kind of mentality.
My SO still using vodafone $30 recharges cards every month even after so many years.
I use google opinion rewards with my nexus, which gives me money for answering 1-2min surveys.
My ex had an iphone and actually pays for itunes credit to buy apps.
…..
Shudders
i've only recently discovered this and its awesome! Actually someone on OZB mentioned it. free "money"!!
When she buys a microwave for 399 on offer, where we actually have 49 from Kmart!
Hmm. OzBargain not OzPovvo.
Still $399 is a bit much. ~$187 gets you a full featured/powered (1200W) microwave.
What can you fit into those $49 microwaves at Kmart? Perhaps a dog bone for you … but that's about it!
Partner reckons I am on here too much so always needs to remind me to:
- not be tight when I get panadols for her: translated to do not get the el-cheapo <$1 for 100 non-branded panadols for her and get her some real branded panadol caplets or something which costs eleventy times more
- get her some reputable branded water… I have been tempted to keep a bottle of Mount Franklin somewhere and just put tap water in it
I cannot complain too much though. She likes more exxy cheaper things so she tolerates my purchases of certain brands e.g. eneloops, quality branded garden equipment, tools, etc.
Ahhhh your female friend is of the bottled water variety. Curse you Mount Franklin for your pure spring water of the highest calibre & for brainwashing the weak feeble minds of todays society.
Panadol rapid is legit. Take it from me I'm a doctor.
Happily pay $5 a box because when you feel crap with nausea and a headache they work so much faster than regular paracetamol (though the end point is the same)
Michael Vagg, a pain specialist at Barwon Health, says most painkillers are well absorbed anyway, within 15 to 30 minutes. Although the claims Panadol and Nurofen make that their faster products are absorbed twice as fast as their regular products may be true, it's not "clinically relevant," says Vagg.
With all due respect, choice is written by … Someone non medical. And it shows.
You can say that because they say paracetamol and Panadol Osteo are the same because they are both Panadol, so why pay 4x more?
Panadol Osteo is a slow release medication. It is most definitely not the same. Here is an extreme example. If you take a slow release opiate at the same dose as an immediate dose opiate (which is analogous to what choice just said) you are going to get very sick because of the long duration of effect
Furthermore, a slow release medication is rubbish for acute pain. Because it's job is to provide a more sustained effect
Aaaaaand finally to address this "not clinically relevant" statement. Of course it is.
Pain is subjective - making it almost useless for trial purposes. Pain is not objective. It's not a lab result that is either positive or negative. If it works for me (and others mind you) then it works. I am my own clinical trial
So no. Choice is an overrated website
choice is written by ā¦ Someone non medical
Choice is written by many people. But as I pointed out that piece was contributed to by Michael Vagg at Barwon Health.
Dr Michael Vagg ā Pain Specialist
Michael Vagg is a consultant in rehabilitation and pain medicine. He graduated from Monash University in 1994 and spent several years as a uniformed Medical Officer in the RAAF before undertaking vocational training. Dr Vagg completed a Fellowship of the Australasian Faculty of Rehabilitation Medicine (AFRM) in 2004. He subsequently gained Fellowship of the Faculty of Pain Medicine of the Australian and New Zealand College of Anaesthetists in 2006. Dr. Vagg is also a Director of Pain Matrix.He holds an appointment as Clinical Senior Lecturer in Musculoskeletal Medicine at Deakin University School of Medicine. For the Faculty of Pain Medicine (FPM), he is Chair of the Continuing Professional Development Committee and Board Member representing the Australasian Faculty of Rehabilitation Medicine (AFRM). He is also an executive member of the AFRM Special Interest Group (SIG) in musculoskeletal, pain and occupational rehabilitation.
In my estimation, Dr Vagg counts as medical.
Point 2:
paracetamol and Panadol Osteo are the same because they are both Panadol, so why pay 4x more?
Panadol Osteo is exactly the same as any other Panadol product that contains the same amount of the identical active ingredient. The cost differences are because it is subsidised by the PBS not because of any difference in active ingredient. The details were in my original link. This was recently pointed out to the government prompting them to make changes to the PBS and now the price is going up
Point 3:
If you take a slow release opiate at the same dose as an immediate dose opiate (which is analogous to what choice just said)
This is wrong it is not analogous at all. The standard and rapid versions of Panadol being compared have the exact same active ingredients in the same amount. Slow acting opiates have different active ingredients to long acting opiates. There are a lot of possible different active ingredients. You should know this if you are a medical doctor.
Point 4:
I am my own clinical trial. So no. Choice is an overrated website
So people should trust you because - as you say - "Panadol rapid is legit. Take it from me I'm a doctor" when you believe that personal experience trumps evidence based medicine and scientific trials. And they should ignore Choice that cites it's sources and seeks input from experts in the fields they are looking at because you think its overrated.
Yeah nothing more I can add I'm out.
Dr Vagg didn't write the article
He contributed a small snippet or quote. Unfortunately these often get misunderstood or have their contexts twisted.
Choice tries its best to be impartial. But it's not written by a medical or a pharma person.
It's written by someone like you who clearly has a sharp mind but misses the subtle nuances of someone who actually works in the field.
For instance:
Panadol Osteo is 665mg three times a day. Which is 2grams per day. I would much rather my elderly mum take that rather than 1g 4 times a day (4grams). Same active ingredient - but changing the delivery system means you half the total daily dose which is useful in avoiding hepatotoxicity in long term use. Like those who take it every day for arthritis.
And I think that's worth forking out 10 bucks a week out of my pocket or whatever and not buying eneloops
Also, thanks for being smug in relation to trials. You'll note that Dr Vagg does not in fact reference any large RCTs comparing Panadol rapid to paracetamol because they don't exist. There is no money to big pharma selling $5 Panadol rapid v $2 paracetamol when you can sell $10000 monoclonal antibodies. They pick their battles smartly, as should you
Thanks again for checking out
@sagiballs: The recommended dose of Panadol Osteo is 2 tab three times a day, so you're taking 1.33g x3 = 4g daily. CMI: https://www.nps.org.au/__data/cmi_pdfs/CMI10599.pdf
YMMV
It's one to two tabs as required. Doesn't mean you have to use both tabs. Most people I've treated do fine with the one of slow release. In fact, as a junior doctor oldies used to swear black and blue in the face to give them their usual Panadol Osteo not regular paracetamol. To the point nurses call you multiple times. At that point I stopped trying to argue since they bring in their own supply and it's not doing them any harm.
Some people elect to take 1 tablet of paracetamol 500mg. Most I've seen though will take the second
@sagiballs: Misread your comment sorry! Thought you said you'd rather your mum took 1g 4x day because she wouldn't get the recommended dose from Panadol Osteo. Thought it was a strange comment!
I'll try and say this as impartially as I can. There are two important points to make:
1)
Panadol Osteo is 665mg three times a day. Which is 2grams per day. I would much rather my elderly mum take that rather than 1g 4 times a day (4grams).
You have made this error twice now. Panadol Rapid has the same quantity of the same active ingredient as Panandol. 500mg Paracetamol. Your first comparison (using opiates) is not applicable as it is different active ingredients. Your second comparison (using your elderly mother) is not applicable as it is different doses being 2g/day versus 4g/day. Panadol Rapid is the same dose of the same active ingredient as Panadol.
2)
You'll note that Dr Vagg does not in fact reference any large RCTs comparing Panadol rapid to paracetamol
I assume you meant to say "comparing Panadol Rapid to Panadol". Panadol Rapid is Paracetamol (as is Panadol).
There are no randomised controlled trials (RCT) cited with very good reason. A RCT would require a specific hypothesis or claim to be tested. So for clarity what claims have GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) made regarding Panadol Rapid? One claim only - that it is absorbed twice as fast. Dr Vagg is in agreement with that claim. GSK do not claim that it brings pain relief twice as fast. GSK do not claim that it brings pain relief faster than ordinary Panadol at all. GSK do not claim that being absorbed twice as fast is clinically significant in managing pain. From a medical perspective everyone is in agreement - that is: Panadol Rapid is absorbed twice as fast as Panadol and although it is absorbed twice as fast it does not result in a clinically significant different pain management response.
If GSK believed that it worked twice as fast in bringing pain relief as regular Panadol then they would say that. They do not say that because they do not believe that. If you believe that GSK have made a specific claim that Panadol Rapid brings pain relief twice as fast as regular Panadol then I would appreciate you linking that claim.
The issue which organisations like Choice are pointing out is that MARKETING terms like "Rapid" should not be confused as having a MEDICAL meaning - particularly when in this case the rapid product costs much more than the non rapid product. Ordinary consumers see the term "Rapid" and assume that it will bring medically faster pain relief when that is not what is claimed by the manufacturer and that is not what happens.
tl;dr GSK (makers of Panadol and Panadol Rapid) do not claim that Panadol Rapid brings faster pain relief. People infer that it does because of the use of the word rapid.
Mate - if you want an opiate which highlights immediate release v long acting I have one for you. It's the oldest one in the book. It's called morphine (v morphine slow release aka MS Contin)
You clearly want to believe that there is no difference in paracetamol v panadol rapid. And that's fine. It's your money.
Anybody who actually has a health science background knows that there is a massive difference in formulations that goes beyond active ingredients. That's why we have
Different routes: enteral v parenteral v sublingual
Immediate release v slow release
Tablet v patches
Enteric coated v not
Tablet v granules
Crushable v non crushable tablets
tl;dr
- you have an opinion. and it's wrong
- you have reading comprehension skills but don't know how to analyse the literature
- you lie when you say 'you're out'
It's not what I believe it's what GSK believe. Find an official link / document / anything where GSK claims Panadol Rapid works clinically faster at pain relief than Panadol and post it. If your a Doctor and work in this field like you repeatedly claim then shouldn't be hard.
How does one prove that A works clinically faster than B?
Let's play a though experiment. Think about it for a second. Really think.
Your end point would have to be a pain scale - which is subjective. Trial is already flawed.
You would then have to experience the same sort of pain. Paracetamol is used for mild pain like headaches. Headaches in and of themselves are variable. One persons 3/10 is another persons 7/10. And some people say paracetamol does nothing, some swear by just the whiff of it. And are you going to test young people? Old people? Pregnant people? The heterogeneity is amusing.
You could theoretically invoke a painful stimulus- but then for something this useless it wouldn't pass ethics approval
And at the end of the day no reputable journal will publish your data because your findings are more or less inconsequential.
:) TLDR yet again you show you have superficial understanding young padawan
Buy it or don't. Trust me I'm a guy on an forum. Who has internet access to choice.com š
:) TLDR yet again you show you have superficial understanding young padawan
I had half a thought that you were just trolling from the start but genuinely tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. At least now you have shown multiple times you genuinely have no idea what you are talking about.
Trial is already flawed…….no reputable journal will publish your data
Maybe check PubMed and search for Panadol. Your going to be shocked
end point would have to be a pain scale
How does one prove that A works clinically faster than B?
Through a clinical trial?
Pick any clinical study you think is relevant
I'll be happy to break it down and tell you why it's useless. Go on. You might learn something beyond hitting search on Google.
But then anyone with Google has a proxy medical degree nowadays.
People who are single or without SO can never understand the pain we go through.