Inappropriate images on day care workers Instagram.

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      StewBalls on 04/07/2016 - 12:31

      +1

      Yes, you're funny, but the difference is, nobody has to read my rant.

      I'm quietly confident that the OP never had a gun to your head either, champ.

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        p1 ama on 04/07/2016 - 13:02

        +1

        I have no problem with OP having a rant about it, yelling and screaming, confronting said lady or not sending her child there. The only problem is, if OP makes a complaint, someone will have to look at that, the matter could end up going to court, wasting everybody's time and money. The lady in question could lose her job, regardless of whether she was competent or not. Having a rant on an online forum is something relatively harmless (and I'm not saying that OP shouldn't do this), but making a complaint is a different level.

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  smartazz104 on 03/07/2016 - 14:23

  +5

  Seems OP is getting downvoted by horny OzBargainers desperate for a perv.

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    bobbified on 03/07/2016 - 19:49

    +2

    you mean, Ozbargainers who might actually have some common sense and can see both sides of the story?

    Everyone's got their own lives outside of work.

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  miscbrah on 04/07/2016 - 12:28

  +1

  i would mind my own business and move on with my life

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  StewBalls on 04/07/2016 - 12:29

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  I just love all of the usual self-righteous PC hipsters on here jumping to the defence of this woman's so-called right to display whatever she likes on social media. Unfortunately, when you choose to work with children you give up this right, especially when it comes to exposing yourself, your employer, or even the children to allegations of inappropriate sexualised behaviours. In some industries, you simply cannot (and indeed in some cases should not) separate your personal life from your professional life. That's a fact, and if you don't like it, don't work with vulnerable people or kids, period!

  Personally, if I was the owner/manager of that childcare centre, I would want to know if one of my employees was demonstrating such a staggering lack of judgement, and frankly I'd summarily terminate that person's employment. The safety of children is not a joke, and the statutory bodies charged with protecting our kids do not take these things lightly either, nor should they. NGO's face severe penalties & lose funding often due to precisely these kinds of ridiculous oversights by staff members.

  As others have noted, I applaud the OP for doing their due diligence & thinking of their children first & foremost. I would actually raise the issue with the centre management & let them follow it up, but let them know that if you aren't satisfied with the outcome of their investigation, you're more than willing to make a DOCS report. I certainly wouldn't want somebody this stupid working with my kids.

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    p1 ama on 04/07/2016 - 13:14

    I certainly wouldn't want somebody this stupid working with my kids.

    Why?

    I just love all of the usual self-righteous PC hipsters on here jumping to the defence of this woman's so-called right to display whatever she likes on social media. Unfortunately, when you choose to work with children you give up this right, especially when it comes to exposing yourself, your employer, or even the children to allegations of inappropriate sexualised behaviours.

    It's not just people being self-righteous, it's a genuinely very valid question - should we employ/fire people based on metrics which are not relevant to their ability to perform a job?

    I actually think that it is self-righteous to fire someone for traits which are not relevant. Isn't this the catch-cry of all discriminatory behaviour? Would you not want an openly gay person to look after your child because they live a lifestyle you might not agree with? What about a person who might have political views that you don't like - are you not going to send your child to them in fear that they'll brainwash your child into loving Trump? These are all traits which have nothing to do with one's ability to do the job.

    I just think that we live in a world gone mad where we have incompetent idiots in important positions everywhere being fake and crap talking their way up whilst we fire people for reasons not related to their work at all. Why not fire people who can't do their job properly first?

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      tonyjzx on 11/07/2016 - 02:39

      Watch that he'll never reply. However he isnt completely incorrect. Our society is puritanical to some degree.

      Have we had any school principals come out as homosexual? Do we accept homosexual teachers of either gender? Because we are scared that gay teachers will molest boys? Is that a reasonable fear?

      Let us extend that. Do we fear that heterosexual men will molest young girls?

      I personally do not beleive gay teachers will molest boys IN GENERAL… in fact in no more proportion than heterosexual teachers.

      I also dont think that a woman who is into whatever S&M will molest toddlers. Thats a HUGE stretch to take.

      But be that as it may, it does show a lack of judgement for someone to open themselves up like that to scrutiny. If a person cant see that, does that make that person a bad day care worker? Of course not, the fault is with society and people like stewballs and not the person itself.

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        p1 ama on 11/07/2016 - 03:44

        I generally agree with you, however,

        But be that as it may, it does show a lack of judgement for someone to open themselves up like that to scrutiny.

        I think that's a genuinely fatal flaw of society, just like you say - we shouldn't have to live in a society where we have to hide aspects of our personality in fear of losing our jobs.

        Ask the logical question - if a school principal chooses to hide his sexuality, he is still gay nonetheless, correct? So why do we wish for him to be closeted gay rather than openly gay? I think there's a reason why 'don't ask don't tell' type mentalities are bad for society - they encourage a society in which we are dishonest about who we are and where we focus on the wrong thing.

        If everybody could be open and honest and not fear retribution, we will focus on the right thing - one's ability to do the job.

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        tonyjzx on 11/07/2016 - 03:55

        @paulsterio:

        Yes but we have to be aware of the society we are living in. Eg. if I was a gay scout leader or a gay principal and I truly was dedicated and enjoy my work and I knew my 'coming out' would be ruinous to me, would I come out?

        No. Who does that help? Does it help the boys I work with?

        To take that to the nth degree, would I come out in a muslim society?

        Its all fine being 100% moral but our society is not 100% moral. We have to be imperfect in an imperfect society.

        This shouldnt be the case in 2016 but sadly, this is where we are. The world is full of judgemental people, some of them in this here thread.

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        p1 ama on 11/07/2016 - 04:17

        @tonyjzx:

        Yes but we have to be aware of the society we are living in. Eg. if I was a gay scout leader or a gay principal and I truly was dedicated and enjoy my work and I knew my 'coming out' would be ruinous to me, would I come out?

        But should you refrain from engaging in completely acceptable behaviour?

        For example, would you refrain from going to a gay bar because you could be spotted there? It's not about just coming out and saying "I'M GAY LOOK AT ME", it's about living the life you want to live whilst still being able to do the job you want to do.

        It's not just about morals, it's about the freedom to live our lives as we wish so long as we don't harm other people.

        The reason why people 'come out' isn't really for their own sake, it's often to make the lives of future generations better. Once upon a time, having a gay teacher would have been blasphemous. These days, it's become acceptable to a great number of people. When I was a student, about a decade ago, I had a gay teacher. He was openly gay and would mention going on holidays with his partner…etc.

        Why has being gay become more acceptable over time? Because people have come out as gay and society has been able to see that gay people are just like everyone else and are fully capable of doing their jobs well. By being open, society becomes more welcoming - it's a two-way street. For people to understand, you have to show them and give them the opportunity to.

        It's unfortunate that people lose their jobs over these things, but we have to start somewhere.

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  andy19363 on 04/07/2016 - 13:34

  +1

  I'd perhaps contact her and see if she even knows about it……

  a) she might not know due to naivety about privacy settings
  b) it might not be her account, could be some'revenge' type scenario by an ex partner

  If she knows about it and is happy with it, then as long as it doesn't contravene any workplace policy, it's not her problem.

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  [Deactivated] on 04/07/2016 - 14:05

  Gender fluidity is now a right, so why shouldn't sexual fluidity be a right also???
  If I want to go to a 'party' and have a complete stranger shoot a nail gun through my junk AND then post pics of it all over the internet then that's my right… and then people of all ages can google:
  "idiot shoots junk with nail gun"….

  The internet, the most public place for your privacy, proudly supported by google.

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  tonyjzx on 07/07/2016 - 01:24

  Terrible wowserism on the part of the OP. Shameful.

  What people do in their private lives is up to them. I dont doubt for a minute that they keep their private lives away from their work.

  Next step is to shame the LGBT and those of a different culture or religion.

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  Speckled Jim on 08/07/2016 - 12:14

  Humans being human? Outrageous!
  But fear not this temporary growing pain…

  [They are ready, sir]
  Deploy the child care droids!

  These idiots — so easily divided — and conquered.

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