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Zotac ZT-P10700B-10P 8GB Graphic Card £340 (A $612) Delivered from Amazon.co.uk

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Ships in 1-3 weeks. Also due to Pound taking a pound, its quite price competitive with Amazon USA.

Using GBP to AUD 1.8 conversion rate to get the estimate.

Still more than $100 cheaper than local stock: http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=gtx+1070&spos=1

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  • +5

    I expect this card will get cheaper in the next 24 hours.

    Amazon is supposed to update their exchange rates each day. The pound fell against both the AUD and USD yesterday, but they haven't changed the rates yet…

    • Amazon rate at checkout: 1 GBP = 1.8797248737 AUD

    • Rate now (~20 hours later): 1 GBP = 1.8665866264 AUD

      • Yeah. I want it to come down a little more still - hopefully will in the next 2 days.

  • Is your price amazons exchange rate or spot rate?

  • I doubt you'll get a 1.8 AUD to Pound rate. My transaction in GBP 10 minutes ago went through at 1.87 AUD to GBP (MasterCard purchase using BankWest). Visa may be different (their conversion tool suggests a rate of 1.82 AUD to GBP, subject to bank fees and conditions.)

    Given how vastly different the rate can be I'm honestly amazed that Banks aren't required to provide you with the actual rate they will use. I think that BankWest actually converts the foreign currency into USD and then into AUD, so I'm probably getting whacked twice. 28 Degrees may be better. YMMV.

  • +5

    Buying this card now, at this price, when AMD is about to release their 480 (29th USA) would be extremely unwise.

    Not saying the 480 will be this fast, but it will be within 20% for about half the price and will unsettle these silly early adopters prices.

      • Something, something, Fermi

      • This deal is for a 1070. And the 480 uses less power.

        "AMD cards are good as a room heater" schtick is good for sounding cool to nVidia fans. Sounding cool has no place on this website; I think they prefer to use logic.

        • +1

          Using less power does not necessarily mean creates less heat.

          It depends on efficiency. An inefficient card generates more heat. Hence why AMD cards for the last 5 years have run hotter than their Nvidia counterparts.

        • @GreatWhiteHunter:

          You do know AMD cards the last 5 years pretty much had double the TDP of Nvidia cards…

        • +1

          @GreatWhiteHunter: Less power when used in the context of gpus generally refers to efficiency

        • +1

          @GreatWhiteHunter:

          Using less power does not necessarily mean creates less heat.

          This isn't really accurate, using less power almost always means less heat. It's just that for the last 5 years (as you mention) AMD cards have been using almost double the power, explaining the doubled thermal output.

          There's a fancy figure called 'TDP' which is a rating of the thermal output of a processor, rather than power usage. The 480 has a rumored rating of around 150w TDP. This is the same as the GTX 1070s confirmed 150W TDP.

          Now note nVidia cards typically run cooler (as they use less power) while idle/under minimal load, so the AMD variant may be slightly hotter still… Though FAR from the doubled heat output we've seen in recent releases.

          tl;dr:
          GTX 1070: 150w TDP
          R9 480: 150w TDP
          Conclusion: Shouldn't be more than a ~10-20% difference in heat output.

        • @dyl: Yes, they have the same TDP. But as you hinted, this number is almost arbitrary. In AMD's case it stands for maximum power. NVidia uses some sort of "average" power usage.

          QED; if AMD and nV both state 150W TDP then the AMD card is using less power. And yes, power usage is directly related to heat output.

          How hot the chips run is related to the heat density of the chips. You must consider the heat per unit size of the chips when considering how easy said chip is to cool, and AMD chips have historically had a higher density.

          This last point is where the uninformed get confused and think a hotter chip is putting out more heat.

        • @GreatWhiteHunter: Using less power does mean creating less heat. Your are getting confused by thinking a hotter chip is creating more heat.

          And If you actually studied the power usage of the last few generations of chips you will see AMD chips are very comparable when considering performance per Watt (efficiency). Those who state AMD chips are less efficient are at best cherry picking figures, at worst it's a flat out lie.

        • @grb:
          With the first line, both actually go for more an 'average maximum' power usage under normal usage (gaming, I assume). AMDs estimations simply prove to be more accurate than nVidia's with most cards. Both don't overly disclose how they calculate TDP, though it's close enough that it's comparable (which is why I state ~10-20%).

          With the rest, you're completely correct - a hot chip actually means a colder room as the heat is being dispersed slower, resulting in a slightly colder room. Overall the difference is still with-in the ~10-20% I originally state in the tl;dr. The main point of the tl;dr is more "the difference in how much it'll act as a heater is no greater than 10-20% between both cards, according to specs alone".

        • @dyl: Mate I don't completely agree, but thanks for the olive branch. I'm not here as a keyboard warrior, but hoping to help stop the FUD.

          I suspect TDP figures could be well more than 10-20% difference, but you have the right idea. And of course neither of us has exact figures.

          With your heater argument I'm going to have to dive in a little further. An Integrated Circuit is not a light bulb, it's not an engine, or a speaker; basically it's only energy output is in heat. This is "power usage".

          I'm not sure what the specifics are in your "heat being dispersed slower" point. But what I was trying to get across was that two ICs using the same energy would output the same heat. Now if we change the surface area with which to dispel this heat, then the ICs would equilibrate with the environment at different temperatures (i.e. the smaller one would be hotter): but they would still output the same heat.

          Edit: I think I'd prefer instead of "heat being dispersed slower", you said: "The same amount of heat being dispersed but at a higher temperature".

    • -1
      • Lol @ wccftech "review", worst click-bait tech site out there. Real reviews are out in ~6 hours.

        But even your own reference confirms my "within 20% for about half the price" claims (considering game selection). Which makes the 480 the best price/performance card in many many years.

        So good on you? You proved a point?

        Plus from your own link the nVidia 1070 makes ~50% more heat than the AMD 480. Good thing it's almost winter, you can use the nVidia card as a room heater lol.

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