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Certified Organic Bananas $1.75/kg @ Kew Organics
Non-Organic Bananas $1.50/kg @ Coles & Woolworths
Avocados $1.90ea @ Coles & Woolworths
Certified Organic Bananas $1.75/kg @ Kew Organics [MEL] Non-Organic Bananas $1.50/kg , Avocados $1.90ea @ Coles & Woolworths
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Shouldn't you just be able to tell?
lol
i'm not good at telling when people are lying.
I've heard that people lie about organic
And what would seeing a certificate change about that?
LOL
I see what you mean. But you would want to make sure that the certificate has some of those signs of being real. (Like money has special patterns etc.)
As far as I can find in a bit of Googling about this, there is no formal certification process… let alone a certificate
The"Ecorganic" bananas (tips dipped in wax) seem to be self certified. They actually don't seem to even be 100% organic.
Then again, as someone who studied agriculture years ago, I don't necessarily see "organic" (whatever that means) as being superior. The plants aren't native or natural, nor is the way that they are grown (farmed). Nothing much about the process is "natural" LOL.
We should get a Certificate of authenticity on each purchases of these so called organic
:/
What's the difference between organic and normal?
<cynic> The price. </cynic>
maybe the smell is more sweeter? :?
Penn and Teller did an ep on it years ago. Most people picked the regular produce as being the organic since it had more flavour, etc. For the banana though, as I recall they simply cut a regular one in half and told people that one half was organic with people swearing that one half was better than the other and therefore the organic one.
that is smart.
get me into this course of manipulation!
I doubt anything significant. "Organic" produce still uses pesticides, many of which are known to be as bad if not worse than those used on regular produce.
Top Ryde NSW Woolies is giving 10% off on some food items (until 17th IIRC) bringing the price down to $1.35, so if you live nearby…
How big are the bananas ?, can we get a banana for scale ?.
Now if only petrol prices were down as well, everything would be peachy.
Or banana-ey?
How can you tell organic and non-organic banana without the organic label? Does it taste better?
Hard to know even with the label…
Bananas are easy to grow at home. I have a few dwarf plants in my backyard.
Just cut it down after it has finished fruiting and it's super easy to maintain.
I started when I saw some growing in people's backyards whilst on the train line. You can always see them, it's quite common even though you would think the temperatures are not "perfect" like Queensland.
What about the taste, more sweeter?
I find they have a stronger 'banana' taste and are a nicer texture. The red tipped bio bananas are the best, although they are about $5/kg.
I find they have a stronger 'banana' taste and are a nicer texture
That is affected by the strain/species of banana plant, like the difference between Valencia and Navel oranges.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banana_cultivars
But most importantly… how GREEN they were when they were picked. Most supermarket bananas are picked completely green and gas-ripened (makes them yellow), which leaves the flesh firm but not as sweet.
If you want nice bananas, just buy decent ones (don't need to be organic)
@llama:
"If you want nice bananas, just buy decent ones" - I'm not sure you realise how unhelpful that statement is.If I said "If you want nice Toilet Paper, just buy decent stuff"… would that be easy for people to understand?
When you buy cheap fruit (think peaches, or tomatos for example) from Coles or similar large chains, you get the lowest form of product possible. Buying "organic" from Coles is unlikely to be very nice at all…. the term "organic" relates to it's (alleged) method of propogation, yet it's not an indicator of quality.
If you want good F&V then buy it from a greengrocer that you can trust. Then you can ask about (or even taste) what you are buying and judge the quality accordingly.
So, for the slow learners… what I am trying to point out is that "organic" doesn't mean "better" (it's usually inferior to the best) - the important thing is to buy decent quality produce.
@llama:
The problem is that it's almost impossible to know when fruit and vegetables are of decent quality. How do you know where they were grown, how they were fertilised, what pesticides were used, when they were picked, etc.? When something is advertised as organic, then it gives some level of information to the consumer about these issues.There's also the problem of finding a grocer that you can trust, as you put it. Wouldn't you be more likely to trust a grocer with higher priced organic produce compared to the grocer that often sells items at discounted prices? Maybe there's a forum thread on here with recommendations…
The problem is that it's almost impossible to know when fruit and vegetables are of decent quality.
It's EASY to tell. Just taste them.
When something is advertised as organic, then it gives some level of information to the consumer about these issues
Don't be too trusting, eh?
Wouldn't you be more likely to trust a grocer with higher priced organic produce
Definitely not. Personally, I'd trust them less… I don't like merchants who prey on consumer's misconceptions in order to profit from them.
Do you trust bottled water that is higher priced to be "better"?
@llama:
You can't determine the type of pesticides and fertilisers used by tasting the produce. Many vegetables aren't best eaten raw. There are a number of items that grocers wouldn't allow you to sample.I think the bottled water analogy is a little harsh. My point was that vendors who often have discounted items would care less about the quality and be less knowledgeable of their wares compared to those who sell higher-priced goods. While I share your distaste of deceiving consumers, I like to think that there are vendors and suppliers who care about the quality of their goods and some who would go the extra mile to certify their goods as organic. It's only natural that they would cost more, but I am also suspicious of price-gouging. We must have some sort of levels of trust and suspicion, just like we do with people we encounter.
Regarding pesticides, I wasn't talking about that - I was talking about taste and quality, as specifically quoted and stated above. Whilst you might not be able to test every vegetable, you WILL be able to remember where you purchased it from.
My bottled water analogy was not the best. I think a better way to describe what I mean is using the analogy of restaurants. You cannot usually taste the food before you dine, eh?
The fact that a restaurant is expensive doesn't necessarily mean that they care more, nor that the meals are universally good. A cheap restaurant might well have higher hygiene standards than an expensive one. The name of the restaurant means very little as well.
If you are served a crappy meal, you either complain (and see what response you get) or you never go back. It's the same with greengrocers… if they sell crap produce, then simply buy elsewhere.
I've heard that organic bananas are terrible for the environment. There is a particular disease which banana plants are susceptible to, which lives in the soil. Usually, the plant and soil are treated, eliminating the disease. However, if an organic farm is infected with the disease, they have no choice but to clear more land to plant new crops.
Do you have a link to the organic certificate. I've heard that people lie about organic…