This is BY FAR the cheapest I've seen this camera with single kit lens from an Australian major retailer.(you don't really want to have kit lens anyway, but the 12-42mm it comes with isn't too bad)
The camera itself is an excellent entry level device, I own one and it fulfills all my needs and more. Worth while checking it out if you are in the market for one.
Move had them for $299 in Dec 15
Move?
dick smith
Dick Smith Move store. They are the stores that are located around airports.
Move had them for $299 in Dec 15
Highly recommend this camera. I've had mine for 3 months and have no complaints at all. Well built, small(ish) form factor, clever stock lens and plenty of other lenses available for purchase. Wifi functionality is damn handy too.
I picked it up on during the boxing day sales @ HN for $442 (after $50 amex cashback).
i feel the battery is not good. i always need to carry spare battery otherwise worry when using it.
any expert tips on how to save (or increase) on battery?
This is one of the downsides for mirrorless cameras.
Solutions: have spare batteries on hand, reduce playback time, reduce sleep mode timer
so frustrated this almost put off my shooting hobbies - and no i dont want to carry bulky full frame.
even if i have 5x extra batteries, imagine on the trip and comeback to hotel with 4x batteries empty, how long i have to spend time charging them? i cant go out but sit on hotel watching battery 1 charging and full then swap with the second one, etc.
such a disappointment…
what about a grip with second battery (or was that only for em1 and em5?). I find on the em1 with extra battery I get quite a lot of shots (prob close to a 1000) before i need to recharge both.
If you're shotting a lot more than that in one session then you need a pro camera. These cameras are not really designed for that and charging them every couple nights at the hotel isn't a big deal.
@poop: a thousand??? really? wow i feel mine only last for 100-150 photos definitely not more than 200. im talking one battery, no grip.
i think there is grip for em10 too but i prefer not (adding bulkiness)
@eisniwre: wow 150-200 sounds very low! Keep in mind I don't use the screen or review photos at all. If the em10 uses the same bln1 battery as the em5 and em1 i would expect atleast 300-400 photos minimum.
EDit: could it be a faulty battery?!
Em5 user here and even using the screen i have taken easily 4-5 hundred in a day without running one battery flat. While I carry a 2nd in my neck strap i cant actually think of a time i have run a fully charged battery flat in one day.
Something doesn't sound right there at all.
buy a dual charger or another charger. I bought two wasabi batteries with a charger.
100-150 shots per battery is way too low for the EM10.
I usually get 300-350 shots per battery for mine. Even going crazy, and shooting 600 shots in a day, I've never gone through more than two batteries. I carry two spares with me just in case, but the second spare has only ever been used when I'm too lazy to recharge the exhausted batteries.
Something is wrong either with your battery, your settings, or your camera. Anywhere below 250 shots is very, very abnormal, and 300-350 should be the norm.
I have been using EM5 for the last one year. Got 3 batteries (1 original , 2 third party ). I have never had any issue with the battery. original Olympus battery gives the best performance obviously. I usually get around 400 snaps (with both raw and jpeg) with no problem.Switching off between shots definitely help. Also reduce the sleep time.
I use the screen most of the time on the em5 and the battery still lasts ages. The em10 should be pretty much the same.
My EM10MkII took just over 600 shots today at Werribee Zoo on a single battery. That's CF and Low FPS at all times on Shutter Priority with RAW+SF, switch set to ON at all times (and just pressing the shutter button to wake it when I want to take a shot), and it currently is STILL showing the battery as full. Oh, and about a dozen or so video clips under 1 minute long each.
Something definitely sounds fishy about your camera/battery
I'm using this battery: http://gerrygibbscamerawarehouse.com.au/camera-accessories/o…
It has a slightly higher capacity than the original one, but I still wouldn't have thought it would make THAT much difference
I dont think it's a mirrorless issue, most likely just battery and power design.
My Nikon V1 mirrorless lasts over 600 shots no problems. Lasts pretty much 1 full day of use on 1 battery.
Nikon V1 is a fancy P&S. Doesn't compete with the OM at all.
I managed to travel for 18months with an OMD EM-5 with only 3 batteries (1 official, 2 third party) and one charger. I never really came close to running out, despite doing several multiday trips (e.g. safaris) that would demand a lot of photos to be taken with no way to recharge.
Personally for me, the way I have found to maximise the battery life was to only use the EVF (not the LCD screen) and to always switch off the camera in between shots (the boot up time is pretty minimal and I find is almost as quick as loading from standby anyway).
You could also look at turning off RAW, and only shooting in JPEG to minimise camera write times, but I'm sure others would lynch me for losing the benefits of RAW for that.
Always carry a spare battery. I do, even for cameras with big batteris like Pentax K-5 unless I am not going to use my camera longer than 30 minutes and even then I check battery level before leaving.
i feel the battery is not good. i always need to carry spare battery otherwise worry when using it.
Then you can simply carry a spare battery. It's no big deal, you have pockets.
I do a lot of video on my compact cameras, and that absolutely hammers the batteries. So guess what? I take spare batteries with me, usually 3 or 4 of them.
Read this thread - review ALL of the replies linked at the bottom of the page, as there are some really helpful tips hidden in there…
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53495063
(However, the best tip is to take a spare battery).
How does something like this compare to the Galaxy S7 camera? My Galaxy s7 takes spectacular photos, so I am not sure if I should buy a compact camera for travel.
The best camera is the one that you have with you :). If you think you'll carry this around everywhere (like your phone) then you will get appreciably better photo quality. Especially in lower light. Plus you have the option of high quality glass to get even sharper shots. That said it'll only be worth it if you use it/carry it around.
nah, better off buying good big portable charger like xiaomi to recharge your mobile on the go. unless you are professional photographer.
This will take better photos than your camera phone without a doubt. Sensor size is bigger so it'll have better low light and images and can shoot higher shutter rates for action shots.
But, that's if you're willing to learn how to use the camera and the basics of photography!
How does something like this compare to the Galaxy S7 camera?
My estimation is that this is about 10,000% better.
My Galaxy s7 takes spectacular photos
It's you (the photographer) that takes the spectacular photos. Your phone however doesn't take very high quality images, at all.
Most photographers would want a proper optical zoom, the ability to take photos in low light, far less digital artefacts and noise, ability to change depth of field, change lens to suit the subject, etc. These are the reasons for buying a proper camera.
If you think that the phone camera is "good enough", then you have no need for this.
I have been using SLR cameras for about 10 years now and I know there is a massive difference between my phone camera and Canon DSLR camera, but I'm not a professional photographer and I don't edit photos. I guess I'll make do with what I have.
Do you ever take photos in anything other than ideal lighting conditions? Do you ever take portrait shots?
If all you're taking is wide-angle landscape shots in brightly-lit sunlight, your cameraphone will do the job. But if you take indoor shots, photos of people, street photography… then the light gathering power of a proper lens and sensor, and the ability to get a shallow depth of field (especially with Olympus's great fast primes) will make all the difference.
It also has their excellent lens stabilisation. This also works when using non-MFT lenses when using adapters.
Edit - removed 5-axis stabilisation - wnet to 5-axis with mark II version.
Anyone recommend the Nikon D5500 with lens, with the same discount and $50 cashback from Nikon?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Nikon-VBK440XA-D5500-Single-L…
Very different cameras mate. Gotta tell us a LOT more about you as a photographer first..
Omd em5 or em10 is better?
EM5 is better. EM10 is the basic micro four third model. EM5 mark 2 > EM1 > EM5 Mark 1 > EM10 .
Despite The EM5 II being newer, the EM1 is still their flagship model. Build quality and weather sealing trumps that of the EM5/EM10.
EM5 is also weather sealed.EM 5 Mark 2 has all the functions of EM 1 plus 40MP high resolution shot, 1080p video @ 60 fps (EM1 is only 30 fps) , 77 mbps max bitrate ( EM1 24 mbps ) and light weight compared to EM1 (469 gms compared to 497 gms). According to the rumours going around , olympus will launch Em1 mark 2 at photokina 2016 in september.
Going overseas in 2 months and was really hoping the EM1 MK2 would be released before I went… Looks like Ill be going for the EM5 MK2 instead. Currently got an EM5 that I love.
Calling the EM-10 "basic" is doing it a disservice. It's a very capable camera in it's own right. It's pluses are it is smaller than the EM5 and EM1, costs considerably less than both the EM5 and EM1 and takes virtually identical photographs with the same lenses.
That is correct. Only some of the features are not available in EM-10. photo quality is still brilliant.
agreed. the EM5 body alone cost double of this EM10, not even counting that this includes kit lens.
EM10 has plastic casing which feels very cheap.
Is c&c working for you guys? It keeps timing out.
Very good deal for a small camera that is capable of switching lens.
There's the newer version Mark II - but it's like $300 more.
If you want the Mark II and 3 lenses, this deal is pretty good
http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/prod12934.htm
Anyone tried with legacy lens?
Have tried it with both a konica hexanon 40mm f/1.8 and carl zeiss jena flektogon 35mm f/2.4.
What do you want to know?
working well on the cropfactor? i'm using legacy lens on a 1.5 crop factor now.
The flektogon feels sharp on the sony but a bit soft on the em10. However it works really well on both tbh.
Hexanon is nicer on the sony as well, but feels too tight for my liking on the em10. I rarely use either lens now, sold the hexanon to an a7s shooter for 70.00.
Great Deal.
Bought the EM-10 about 18 months ago for $1,000+ in a Twin Lens Kit, the 12-42mm and 40-140mm.
I pretty much always use the smaller lens, and never go for the 40-140mm one.
Does anyone have any extra lenses they can recommend me getting?
I'm not a keen photographer or anything like that. Just would like an extra lens (maybe prime?) to bring on my travels. I am leaving in less than 2 months so will be able to claim TRS as well if over $300.
go for Olympus 25mm f1.8 prime or the more versatile street lens Olympus 14mm - 150mm f/4-5.6 II weather sealed lens.
I have the 14-150 II. Fantastic lens when you don't want to carry around multiple lenses and/or worry about having the right lens at the right time. It's pretty soft wide open and at 150mm, but the way I see it is that I'd rather have A shot, than no shot at all because I was changing lenses at the time
9mm f8 fisheye is brilliant.
I keep it on my shoulder strap in the little pouch the flash came with (fits the lens perfectly).
Sure it is only f8 but it is a very handy to have to capture such wide angle shots.
https://www.camerapro.com.au/olympus-9mm-f8-0-fisheye-body-c…
Edit:
A couple of random shots i have taken with it:
http://i.imgur.com/OUOYsBZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3F2d4KU.jpg
Olympus 25mm f1.8 Prime sounds good for what I'm after. Are there any similar to this that is better bang for buck?
Currently the cheapest I could get it for is $370 through Ted's eBay AU stock, and claim some TRS.
Does anyone know where I may be able to get it for a better price or a similar lens at better value?
Check this out https://www.camerasky.com.au/olympus-m-zuiko-digital-25mm-f1…
341$ for the lens - 5$ off for subscribing to their newsletter. If you add 24$ delivery and 10% back on TRS ,its a sweet deal. Much better than Teds Deal.
Camerasky reviews show them to ve about as bad as perfect mission ebay.. I'll pay more money for something that will actually come in the post thanks.
Thanks for the deal.
Ted's is $360 after 20% off, plus $10 delivery from eBay = $370.
CameraSky would be $360 including delivery.
But given the comments re: CameraSky, I would definitely go with Ted's for an extra $10.
@ankor: That may well be the case.I Never bought from them before. If I have to buy anything from them, I will definitely do a thorough research.
I have the kit lenses and also bought the Olympus M.Zuiko 17mm F1.8 for night sky photography. It was $700 just for this lens but I worked in mining at the time ;)
photos here: https://www.facebook.com/FiStPho
Yeah, now deciding between the 17mm F1.8 or the 25mm f1.8. The 17mm is about $100 more than the 25mm.
17cm is the 'standard' lens, which most would use, the 35mm equivalent and same focal length as all phones etc… 25mm is also normal but a bit more zoomed in.
I will mainly use it for travel photography taking basic photos, of landscapes and person+background. I'm used to using the 14-40mm at 14mm though, so for me, 25mm might actually now seem a bit too zoomed in.
I don't know… I'll keep doing a bit more research.
What are people's experiences with each lens?
For travel photography, I'd personally go wider. I find even 14mm a bit too restrictive at times when you're trying to get vistas in for travel. At the same time, I could just use my 6D with my 17-40, but that's like twice the size and mass of the EM10
Yeah I'm starting to think along those lines.
The 12mm f2 is way too expensive for me at this stage, so the 17mm f1.8 seems to be the way to go. The 45mm is not what I'm looking for I think - a bit too long.
But Ted's don't have that so would be waiting for a discount from another store to get it for less than $499.
Go for the Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F/2.5. It's a great pancake lens.
It's often sold in Lumix camera bundles in overseas markets, so you can get it off eBay pretty regularly for under US$200.
Oly 45mm is the champ of bang for buck, but it's a bit long for everyday, unlike the 25. And the min focus distance is 50cm, not 25mm, for food shots etc.
Another bang for buck is the Pana 25mm f1.7, once was usd 99, but no more. However, on an Oly body it might give purple fringing on point lights, albeit easily corrected in post processing,but still an extra step.
Oly 25mm is a good compromise. Go for it.
This is a fantastic little camera. I recently took it on a trip to Italy and I was really happy with the quality of the photos. You can have a look at the gallery here, https://www.flickr.com/photos/123230218@N03/albums/721576601…. These were all out of camera JPEGs, no editing.
Previously had a Nikon D90 and I would never go back to a bulky traditional SLR.
gorgeous photos. that pano at the end has a really really really blue sky. are you sure that didn't get any touching up? :)
Oops I forgot about the pano's. I stitched those in Photoshop afterwards and they were definitely altered. What can I say, I like really blue skies :)
Positano on the Amalfi Coast. Was definitely one of the highlights :)
I also took the camera on a trip to New Zealand in December 2015, https://www.flickr.com/photos/123230218@N03/albums/721576635…. Again the vast majority of the photos are out of camera JPEGs.
I see you're rocking the 12-40mm pro zoom. It seems to look really unbalanced on an em10.
Can you tell me more about your experiences with that lens generally? I want to buy this lens, but then my wife may kill me lol.
I bought the ECG-1 grip and found that it greatly enhanced the usability of the em10 in general. In saying that the 12-40mm pro zoom is a really big lens compared to the other lenses I have (12-50mm zoom, 17mm f1.8, 25mm f1.4, 25mm f1.8, 45mm f1.8). In case you're wondering my wife also has an em10 so we share the lenses between us hence the duplicate focal ranges.
I love the 12-40mm pro zoom because it's just so versatile, especially when you're travelling and you don't know what lighting situation you'll be faced with. Often you can only spend a short amount of time at a certain destination and I've found that nothing beats having the 12-40mm pro zoom around. It's still nowhere near as heavy as my old setup with the D90 and the 18-105mm kit lens but you definitely notice the extra weight compared to other m43 lenses.
I wouldn't write off the standard 12-50mm zoom lens though either as it can take some really nice shots in good lighting. Here are couple of examples, https://www.flickr.com/photos/123230218@N03/23736005111/in/a…, https://www.flickr.com/photos/123230218@N03/23524341400/in/a…. It's not so great in low light but in bright conditions I have often been surprised by the quality of the output from the 12-50mm lens.
I also use the 12-40Pro with the EM-10. No grip. I just cradle my left hand under the lens/body and I always use the EVF. it is definitely heavier than the primes but has never bothered me. I'm even thinking of getting the 40-150Pro, which dwarfs the little body.
Wow fantastic photos! I recently bought this camera for my girlfriend before our trip to SE Asia. Can you recommend a decent, non bulky case? Cheers
I've got the Lowerpro Event Messenger 150 in Mica and I've found it to be a really good size to carry 2 extra lenses, 3 spare batteries, a couple of SD cards and cleaning cloths, http://store.lowepro.com/event-messenger-100. My wife has a Think Tank Retrospective 7 and she really likes that bag too, https://www.thinktankphoto.com/products/retrospective-7?vari….
I was looking at this or the Sony A6000. I didn't want something to bulky and obviously there features and spec differences as well as the cost of the lens - Sony seem more expensive and not how interchangeable the lens are with other cameras if at all.
thoughts?
I've owned a Sony A6000 but I sold it and bought an Olympus OM-D EM10. The main reason I sold the Sony A6000 was due to the limited native lens selection when compared to micro four thirds and I personally found the Olympus to be much easier to use and get good results (not stating that as a fact, it was just my experience with the cameras). This is particularly true if you don't post process or shoot in RAW. I found that the out of camera JPEGs were much better out of the Olympus as compared to the A6000. The A6000 certainly isn't bad and you could probably get better results out of it if you know what you're doing but the Olympus M10 is a great camera for the price.
I also sold my a6000 to get the e-m5 ii. Ibis, weather seal and Lens selection were the reasons.
Hey guys,
Is this MK1?
Yes. MK2 wouldn't be at this low price.
Is the MK II worth the additional cost?
It basically depends on whether you want to do video.
The MK II will do a bit better at image stabilisation (four stops rather than three), and has a better electronic viewfinder. It can also use the screen as an AF targeting pad, which can be handy when using the EVF.
But those improvements don't really justify the price difference. The original EM10 already had pretty good usability and IS.
The video is another story. With the EM10, it lagged quite a way behind Panasonic (on their M4/3 cameras). On the EM10 II, it catches up most of the way, and actually beats Panasonic on IS.
So, the question really comes down to whether you need video.
Good insight - thanks!
I do want to be able to take some decent video of the kids etc but will be mostly stills. How bad is it at video?
At the moment, i've only ever had standard compact cameras but not want better shots of the kids.
For the occasional video, I wouldn't worry. The EM10 is fine, and the videos are watchable. I find it a bit lacking in details, it has noise problems in low light, and is occasionally jumpy… but still a whole lot better than a phone video.
However, if you're going to be consistently taking videos, then upgrade. A small investment in money will give you higher fidelity videos of moments you won't be able to capture again.
Upgrade to a full video camcorder or a camera that has better HD quality video? Yes it is for the kids and the new one on the way.
much appreciated.
The EM-10 MK II, or any of the mid-range Panasonic M4/3 cameras would do the job just fine.
The original EM-10 on the other hand, was a bit lacklustre for video when it was launched, and has fallen even further behind the curve since then. It's a great camera. Just not a great video camera.
Anyone know of a good price I can get the EM5 MII with the 14-150mm lens? I'm within the 60 days travel zone now and hoping that JB have a 15% off there cameras again soon.
15% at jb now.
Awesome, great timing.. Ill go down tomorrow and pick up the EM5 MII
I'm going overseas (Europe, New York & Canada) in August and was looking at buying a camera for the trip. I don't want to spend too much so was looking at a secondhand Sony NEX-6 twin lens kit, but is the OM-D with 12-42 lens pretty comparable?
yes
no way! Nex 6 twin lens kit is NOT comparable to M10 single lens 12-42.
Without getting into which is better/ not as good argument, they still don't stack up.
APSC size sensor vs micro four thirds. The physical size of APSC is bigger.
With lens that's a 18-55 (or the 16-50) + 55-210 with x1.5 crop coverage vs. 12-42 with 2x crop that's NO WHERE near the zoom that dual lens kit will give you. The dual lens kit will let you shoot things further away.
I say they are not comparable.
Gerry Gibbs had these for $468 including shipping in Jan.