Was on the lookout for some HDD for my NAS since my old Seagate 3TBs died on me:( Found this on amazon.. not sure how long it will last..
Cheapest on staticice is $218 so for $182AUD delivered from Amazon is a steal!
PS use 28degrees to avoid Amazon conversion.
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Often it's people using green type desktop drives as Nas drives …need more than to just look at brand but model and application used in.
Hi jv, yeah the Seagate 3tb failure rate has been horrendous… but the 4tb failure rate is a lot better according to blackblaze..
Backblaze are not using the NAS drives, they are using the "Desktop" drives, and in the past they have shucked the drives out of enclosures (a lot of their Seagate 1.5TBs). Also keep in mind they are using consumer, desktop drives clustered in large datapods, ie putting them into conditions that they are not designed for.
Here is a link on a critique of the Backblaze data and sampling
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-…
Don't get me wrong, I think it is great to have this useful dataset (ie large numbers of drives, worked hard) but at the same time you also need to take into account that they are using drives out of the manufacturer's recommendations (ie workload, tempreture and more importantly vibration). Anothe way to put it into persepctive, are you cramming 45 drives into a box?
A little research will reveal that these Seagate NAS and WD Red drives are designed and optimised for home NAS boxes and are not recommended for installations of greater than 8 disks (WD RED, they recommend WD RED PRO for larger installations - http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-800… and 1-8 drive recommendations http://www.seagate.com/au/en/internal-hard-drives/nas-drives…)
For some first hand experience, my NAS (ReadyNAS 4-bay) currently has 2x2tb WD RED (3yrs old) and 2x2tb Seagate NAS (1yr old), I did notice the addition of the Seagate drives added a lot more noise, but that no other issues to report. My 3tb Seagate Desktop (1yr old, installed in my computer - SSD + 1tb + 3tb) seems fine as well
TL:DR
1) Critically think about the blackblaze data, ie how they use there drives compared to your use and the manufacturer's recommendations.
2) These are Seagate NAS HDD, not the Desktop HDD that get a (questionably) bad rap
3) I have both WD RED and Seagate NAS, both seem fine, my 3tb Seagate Desktop seems fine as well
With no model numbers and only anecdotal data to report, I think it's safe to completely disregard your post.
the Backblaze's first report is a joke, only the second report start making sense.
I had my first one go a couple of months ago in my main PC raid 5 - 4x2TB disks, purchased august 2010… (5400RPM standards not even NAS drives) just bad sectors I think- not a dead drive. (didn't want to risk continued use.) - the raid card reported it was suspect.
replaced with a seagate NAS disk…. not sure if that's good or not.. 5 and a half years, they where in a mostly on PC, doesn't seem to bad… I also have 5 4TB Seagate I bought a couple of years ago, but haven't really used them as the server they where supposed to go in has had issues…finally setting them up now.
Nas drives are good in desktop if you are happy with the extra cost and heat/ per useage.
Green drives are designed for low power use but trade off in other areas so they are green
NAS drives are configured/programmed differently, they will stop attempting to seek on a bad sector and move on, unlike a desktop drive (different behaviours for different applications). NAS drives are meant to be cooler and more vibration resistant than normal desktop drives as well.
Green drives on the other hand are a different beast altogether. They power down aggressively (the cause of most of the WD Green's woes) in an effort to save power. They also spin slower, and provide lower performance.
If you build it they will come.
Brought Seagate 4 bay last night - empty.
Pounced on this deal.
Thanks
I think I'd rather spend a little more and get some hitachi's.
Are these any good? Seagate have had a bad rap lately…