The Nexus 5X and 6P were just announced this morning, specs are pretty much the same as the leaks and rumours. Pricing seems high though the 5X starts at $659 and 6P at $899
Nexus 5X and 6P Pricing
zelda707 on 30/09/2015 - 08:06
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Haha perhaps. There's still no ETA on Australia so we may be looking at 1-2 months, who know's by then?
Yeah a lot can happen in the smartphone world in 8 weeks. I'm leaning towards the 6P too in time for Christmas, but if 6P is $899, im not sure ill part ways with that sort of coin for a 32GB phone.
Doubt it's even that bad. If it was, I don't think manufacturers would keep using it. http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/snapdragon-810-heat-test…
USB 3.0 would be nice but almost all my transfers are wireless so no biggy for me.
:P They have little choice, they have to either go with something that's worse than 805 in some regards (808 has worse GPU) or they have to go with 810.
If you think about the time when Snapdragon 800 were used in every single flagships and think of now, where companies are moving away from Qualcomm in general and Mediatek is being used in some flagships, I think Qualcomm has fallen down by heaps.
Also, the reason why 810 is not showing with ridiculous temperature is that it throttles rather vigorously and manufacturers are designing their phone for 810 (i.e. heatsink, reduce clock etc).
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-secret-of-Snapdragon-810-…
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-sna…I saw those links and I'm sure there is still throttling. but articles were earlier in the year. Not sure how much tweaking they did with version 2.1 of the SoC.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/09/03/xperia-z5-4k-video-test…
@ozhunter: http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-m9-already-using-snapd…
Also, do note that phone companies are designing the phone with heatsinks to stop the phone from overheating.
Sony have implemented more measures to stop the phone from overheating, OPO2 I believe, have reduced clock on the SoC along with the heatsink. If the problem didn't exist, they wouldn't have gone through that much hassle to "fix" (which in my opinion is more of alleviate) the problem.
http://www.slashgear.com/sony-xperia-z5-using-dual-heat-pipe…
I frankly think it's better to wait for 820. I frankly don't think the problem is fixed when all the manufacturers are introducing heatsinks and such for the phone.
I frankly don't think the problem is fixed when all the manufacturers are introducing heatsinks and such for the phone.
I think that does fix the problem. If overheating is the problem and heatsinks stop the overheating that means the problem is solved, even though it's not the ideal solution.
I'm sure the 820 would be better temperature-wise as I don't think they'd make the same mistake 2 years in a row.
@ozhunter: The problem with 810 is, it uses too much power while the performance from it is below what you'd expect from how much power it is using. From how ineffficient it is, problems like overheating and throttling became a big issue. Overheating issues wouldn't be an issue like this if it came with the performance you'd expect from the power used and if throttling doesn't make it become a subpar SoC for a 2015 flagship phones.
v2.1. changed little if not anything. If QC alleviate the problem by reducing the performance, manfacuturers alleviated problems by adding additional parts to the phone that is not necessary for other SoC, then I don't see the problem being solved. I am sure you could use Prescott at reasonable temperature if you do what they've done, adding additional measure for heat dissipation and reducing clocks and stuff. Doesn't change my opinion of it, however (which is, do yourself a favour and grab something reasonable).
If other manufacturers are adding additional parts to minimise or stop the throttling, I see that as the problem solved. Maybe it is inefficient and not as powerful as it could be if it had better cooling, but that's like saying the Macbook has issues as they underclock it so it wouldn't overheat.
@ozhunter: I frankly don't see it as solved, seeing that you end up with heavier device that's cannot compete with the other SoC available in the market. It haven't touched upon the cause (which I do admit would be hard for Qualcomm to address given the rumours on how it's a inherent problem with the architecture and the big.LITTLE solution). I do admit that it have alleviated some of the issues, but in its core, it's still producing a lot of heat that the phone cannot handle without heatsinks. It's stil meh, in terms of performance as well.
I frankly see it as the Qualcomm's version of giving out bumper cases as a solution for the signal issues when you block the antaena with your hand. It's not touching upon the issue, it's simply trying to alleviate it.
Why take something that's has problems in its root, when you could wait for something that would likely to not have the same issue? Qualcomm is working on a custom core architecture, it'd likely to be better and free of these problems.
Why take something that's has problems in its root, when you could wait for something that would likely to not have the same issue?
Because the heat sinks and what not alleviate the problem to a point where it's not really a problem. Maybe it could be more powerful it didn't get so hot, but I wouldn't dismiss any phone just because it has the Snapdragon 810.
@ozhunter: I think I've given you my opinion on the Snapdragon 810 already. It's your choice, I frankly see Snapdragon 810 to be at a position where I'd rather choose Snapdragon 805 devices which are discounted rather nicely (well at least in some places) or wait for next year. That said, that's my choice.
The 810 is still the flagship - I'm just excited for the 820.
Ew USB 2.0. What is this, 1980?
USB-C runs faster than 3.0 (on the 6P anyways)
I got the nexus 5 a few years ago because it was about $420 delivered. But $650 for the base model with only 16gb of memory?? Are they joking? You can get a 32gb Galaxy S6 for around that, which has a much better camera, display, and imo looks a lot nicer. I don't think the stock android experience is worth the prices they are now charging for these nexus phones.
LG G4 is also another great option for much cheaper, with a pretty good "stock-ish" android experience (you can always put custom ROMs to help).
Sadly our terrible AUD makes these hardly great value :(
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/09/30/prices-nexus-5x-nexu…
Interesting, we didn't seem to get hit That hard in the end by comparison.
While that is true, it doesn't make it any more of a bargain :P Still overpriced by a long shot IMO. I don't understand the hype surrounding them anymore. I used to partake in the hype during Nexus 4/5 era, but this is really underwhelming. If the specs were significantly better, and perhaps not a 16gb base model (I can't believe they are even offering 16gb), more than 2gb of ram, etc. then the price would be a lot easier to take in.
I am surprised that no one has not yet mentioned the LG V10, supposedly a "super premium phone" by LG.
It gets a bit of a 'meh' from me. Besides the gimmicks, there isn't enough there to adequately set it apart from the G4 IMO. The dual front facing cameras don't seem like too bad of an idea for widening the field of view - I'm glad they didn't try (and fail) to use them for some gimmicky crap like the HTC One M8. The extra display is neither original nor all that useful in my eyes. Internals are pretty much on par with a highest-of-the-high-end model. The addition of stainless steel does help it appear more premium, but that back cover is pretty hideous and just looks cheap. I'm not opposed to plastic by any means, and I quite like the material of my Nexus 5. But that textured back looks pretty bad.
Also, they really need to either improve their logo, or remove it from the front of the phone entirely. Looks ugly AF. All in all, I see no reason to get this 'in-between' phone. Undoubtedly it won't be a bad phone, but… Either get the G4, or wait for the G5.
I frankly had a "meh" on it, but after giving it a second chance, I'd say it does look like more refined version of G4. Other than the gimmicky dual screen, hefty weight (192g) and back buttons (I hate back buttons, just my personal preference), I think it is a phone that LG did its best given the circumstances (Qualcomm SoC mess up this year).
MIL-STD-810G Transit Drop compliant is a nice touch. The audio side seems promising in my opinion (75 volume level, 32-bit HiFi DAC and headphone amp). 4GB RAM is also a nice touch. It starts from 64GB as well with mSD support. The back cover, I thought the 8 rectangle pattern one looked awful (reminded me of Age of Empire and the farms), that said the plain one looked alright. Apparently it's silicon (I'd assume that they've used silicon for sturdyness?). Fingerprint scanner, hmmm, I am not sure whether I should put that into the gimmicks section.
I frankly think it's a mid-to-high range phone that offers more than what G4 offered. That's why I am surprised that no one has brought V10 up, since people did mention G4 several times already.
Good call on their logo; It was one of the main reasons (im being honest) I have decided against getting the G4 in favour of a Nexus. Keep the logo on the back = less 'busy' and 'tacky' looking screen. Seriously, that logo needs an overhaul. It isn't 2002 anymore.
Not liking the trend of not providing SD card integration
Only the Nexus S had a micro sd slot from the Nexus line.
Phones in general… A lot of high end phones are now providing 4k recording. Those who know better will stay clear of phones with 16gb if there's no SD card integration. Not sure if these phones offer 4K recording but I would question it as being a reason to choose one phone over the other esp if casual photography / cinematography is your thing and that's not even considering people who download a lot of apps. The cloud isn't the answer for everything.
Yea microsd slot is definitely preferable but LG, Sony, HTC, Motorola, Asus, and Huawei all have it available in their flagships.
To be honest, while the trend of Nexus not providing mSD card support was there all the time, I was actually expecting mSD card support because of one of the new features regarding SD card on Marshmallow. SD Cards can be “merged” with internal storage. So since SD card support is more or less official now, I thought Nexus (being a reference phone) would boast that feature.
I don't know, maybe next Nexus may provide a SD card support?
I had nexus training yesterday (i work in industry)
and Google's position on SD-card support is that it slows the devices down and they want the best hardware in the devicesIt also leads to dramas overall so they simply won't do it, it does seem to be a trend.
Samsung have dropped SD card support because they claim 75% of warranty claims on older devices directly relates to SD Card use (they CLAIM)I would buy into that, if the manufacturers don't try to profit by adding ludicrous amount of margin into higher capacity model.
To me it simply looks like "oh we can use that as an excuse to increase our profit margin" or "they will use the cloud service that we are providing if they feel like they need additional space".Maybe I am looking at things too bitterly.
@Oversimplified:
Cloud Storage was mentioned repeatedly so yes.. i think you might also be correct lolHaha pretty much how I feel. When you have the leading android manufacturer Samsung pushing for it, I can't help but see companies like HTC doing the same thing to prop up their margins. Xiaomi is even stating that reason of 'being slow'. How slow are we talking my about here? I find running out of space even worse. It's the spec race. Having the fastest phone sounds better.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-real-reason-why-micro-sd-ca…
That's an interesting statistic. Never owned a Samsung phone but all my other phones have never had SD issues nor have I heard my friends having this problem.
Anyone know pre order date in Australia?
today
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'Trying' to hold out = you'll still begrudgingly get one?