Good price for CPU and with the discount some of the motherboards become good value and below the prices of umart/msy. With the price of Skylake, any reduction is welcome.
6600k - $355
6700k - $515
Combined shipping to Brisbane appeared to be $10.
Intel Skylake CPU Sale: 6600k $355, 6700k $515 + 20% off Selected Motherboards @ Shopping Express
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Intel is not helping either….new socket 1151 and a shift to DDR4…..I guess I am going to try to push my current comptuer for a few more years
The new socket and shift to DDR4 is warranted.
It had to happen at some point. I'm just a bit annoyed that I built a i5+H97 computer (for my girlfriend) mid last year and the socket has already changed. The constant shift in sockets makes it difficult to rebuild machines that have faulty motherboards, I know at least two people with Socket 1155 machines that have been reduced to B75 boards recently.
Like others I guess I was hoping for the change to a new Socket + DDR4 to come with a bigger jump in processor capability.
I doubt your girlfriend will need an upgrade for at least 5 years or unless something breaks.
The change in socket allowed them to increase power efficiency, because they implemented their new 14 nm process and also they moved the voltage regulator modules off the CPU space and onto the motherboard. These can get hot. I can't remember why they put it on the control of the processor in their previous CPU line.
@aim54x: Are you worrying that if you ever break up with your girl friend, you would grab back the old i5 processor but couldn't put it to latest motherboard with new socket ?
@coprocessor8087: That has never crossed my mind….more so worried about getting a replacement MOBO later on, as I mentioned a few friends with Socket 1155 machines have not been able to get a decent motherboard after motherboard failures.
Does it really matter?
I just bought a 4790k and motherboard for $770. And you know what? I'm sure it's plenty to avoid bottlenecking my 980ti.
It also let me re-use my ddr3, which is ample.
Skylake.. meh, does it really matter? I'm sure that 4790k has 5 years life in it.
Running my 980ti with an i7 2600, no problems so far
@Lukian: OC'd mine to 4.2 using simple bios OC tool, prob could push more out of it if I wanted to but don't really need to.
The 908ti G1 is amazing, OC'ing beast
If I were to get a new CPU I'd get a Xeon, cheaper, no onboard graphics, built to last
@Jemz: Likely me too, I see Xeon recommendations fairly regularly on Whirlpool forums.
Yeah, I could push mine to ~4.6, but I didn't want to enter the 1.4V range (possibly reducing life), nor give my heatsink a particularly hard time. I think my current OC is <1.3V even (1.285 iirc?).
Some motherboards support DDR3
yeah man.
still running i5-3570K.get a good aftermarket cooler and you can run it into the ground.
comfortably sitting at 22 / 40 degrees C ( unloaded / loaded ) at 4.4 Ghz.
Really no need for this price…
Edit* yeah I was thinking of something else.
I'm running a 2011 i7-2600 and it's kicking goals on a 4.2 OC til this day. i7's are worth it in the long run but Intel are pulling the usual
mod: removednew socket type requires new motherboard & ramHoping it'll hold out til at least until 2017 10nm Tock from Intel or at a stretch the 7nm or 5nm Tocks.
I'm running an 2010 AMD Phenom II X4 965BE and that is still chugging along, with the Noctua cooler it has on it I have been able to stable OC it to 4.0 but im actually running it at stock 3.4 at the moment as I have yet to find a need for the OC.
I was considering an upgrade with Skylake…..I think I will hold off.
Reminds me of the 2008 Q6600 I had in my first gaming PC, along with a 8800gts 512, prob 4 or 8gb ram. lasted me 3 years til tax back in 2011. oh the nostalgia
And yes, it could run Crysis!
@Jemz:
I still run a Q6600 in my main PC. I originally had an 8800GT in there but I upgraded that a few years back. I've been meaning to upgrade the computer for a while now but the incremental improvements (which admittedly are starting to get pretty big compared to a Q6600) and increases in cost (mostly due to AU$) make it difficult to justify when the Q6600 does everything I need (also been upgraded with an SSD which helped a lot).I'm keen to go Skylake but at these prices I'll just hold on for now.
@Evil-Elmo: Get a Xeon and 1150 board, i7 power for i5 price, will last at least 7 years. You can get them for $365 (1231) or $385 (1241) at MSY.
These die shrinks are becoming less and less significant. Percentage wise it's still the same, but in terms of actual size difference, it's diminishing returns.
From 32nm Sandy to 22nm Ivy (these figures are off the top of my head so might not be exact) the shrinkage was 10nm. Broadwell drops that to 14nm, a shrinkage of 8nm. Is the 2017 processor going to shrink it to 10nm? That's a saving of 4nm. Will this make that much of a difference?
I'll skip this kind of Skylake. Its performance is a bit faster than Devil Canyon, but the upgrade price is extremely high
Get it if your machine is old. It will support DDR4, the new PCIE improvements, M2, new USB3, and more future standards.
still on 2500k oc to 4.4ghz, for gaming is more than enough. So i see no value in upgrading. Intel is just milking the consumers these days, no real improvements since sandy bridge.
It's because they and nVidia don't have any real competition, so they're not being pushed to make good products. There just isn't a need on their end.
Your Sandy was the last really good CPU. Since then they've added internal heat spreaders which are poor at conducting heat away. My Ivy doesn't overclock as good as a Sandy despite getting the die shrink.
Do these cpu's need liquid cooling?
They don't need liquid cooling - however, these two CPU's do require some kind of heatsink as they are CPU only
No they don't need liquid cooling both are 91W TDP. You can use a liquid cooler but cheap decent Air coolers can do 120-130W TDP just fine eg. Hyper 212 or Gammaxx 400.
If you don't mind answering (couldn't find an inbox option), why do people liquid cool? If these are the best CPU's and they are 91 degrees and air cooling can do it fine is liquid just for show or something? Sorry I'm just learning about all the computer parts and stuff lately and can't seem to grasp the concept of over clocking and liquid cooling.
Because enthusiast overclockers add extra voltage to the cpu and thats when air cooling can't dissipate enough heat . Modern cpu's will slow down to prevent themselves overheating but many years ago they just used to fry . The justification for water cooling is pretty marginal these days . It looks cool …
It looks neater if you use all in one water cooling systems. Allows you to get full view of the motherboard and stuff if that's what you fancy. But the cheapest water coolers don't perform substantially better than decent air coolers, some worse. Hyper 212 evo is a good example.
~$100 for a bit of chinse is not my idea of good value but hey, some people like it
As already mentioned, it is neater, they are quieter*, they do perform better than air*. You do need to accommodate the radiator, you do need to keep an eye on hose connections for leaks. Interestingly enough there seems to be a rise of pump failures in some form in the AIO coolers.
But hey it looks good performs good, is quieter*.
*not all water coolers perform the same sound the same ect..
Good Air Cooled systems are nearly as good as water cooling.
Prepare to do regular maintenance and monitoring if you go to Water Cooling.
I had a boss system (external radiator) and killed two systems (leaks) :(
…or go with a fully sealed system (some have loud water pumps).
No point to upgrade if you already have an ivb platform or later. CPU gain is minimum or (even negative against Haswell wtf right?). The only real advantage is the HEVC 4k@60fps hardware acceleration and able to support HDMI2.0 (via a freaking converter wtf x 2 I know). However, this can be easily achieved by getting a $200 Nvidia card.
Personally I think Skylake is meant for low power devices eg. tablet, fanless pcs or laptops to step up for the 4k@60fps era; which is great but nothing more.
yeah I'm not seeing much want to go skylake, top dollar is a hard pill to swallow.
Skylake is faster clock for clock. Considering you can often overclock a skylake to the same clock as Haswell its a good CPU.
The same thing happens every generation, its been a very very long time since a new cpu generation has had a huge improvement.
The easier way is to keep overclocking further and further :D
The only reason I see to go for Skylake right now is:
- You're someone who need to make use of DDR4 speed (practically professional)
- You're on 1000/2000.
- You're building a new computer and… might as well.
- Your computer broke down and… might as well.On the other hand, a few weeks ago Intel reported that they have a shortage of CPUs, so maybe it's one of the factors for the high price compare to Devil's Canyon. If anything, hopefully the price would perhaps goes down or stabilise in 2-3 months.
Still running 3570k gtx 680 no problems.
Built my brother a 2500k and gave him one of my gtx 680s runs fine to. No problems with Battlefield games etc. Can't see it being an issue for a few years
What CPU coolers are ppl buying for these CPUs?
While everyone going about i5 2xxx system still running to this date. I'll put my 2 cents in too… Q6600 GTX560 still going strong :D
Looking at building a new system on Skylake, but the current price of these CPUs just can't justify the purchasing these.
A Xeon E3-1231v3 is $200~ less than the i7-6700k & is almost as fast performance wise.
PCCASEGEAR has a pretty good Xeon Bundle for $550 with a 1231, MSI gaming MOBO and Fury ram:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&c…
It's $359 for a 6600k at MSY. An extra $4 for local warranty. I'd take that.
Kogan is selling at $330.77 + $9.00 shipping, even cheaper.
Edit: Sorry, missed the point, your're right.
Fair point but honestly I have never heard of a defective CPU.
$515! Shit….
I paid $350 for my core i7 4790k a few months after it came out. Boy oh boy, the AUD is destroying our pockets.