Average price around 250 bucks here in Aus, so around 40 dollars cheaper per drive shipped.
Toshiba 5TB SATA 6GB/s 7200RPM $149.76 USD Shipped ($211.71 AUD) @ Amazon
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No you dont understand, low dollar is good for the economy.
This is important to Australia in spite of the fact most people dont own an export companyLow dollar pushes the burden onto the populace and lowers the standard of living.
yes given we have to import everything, it helps make our buying price higher than it already is.
It would be better if we did have an export company as we would be more competitive (lower prices) to sell more.
I think you got this the wrong way, unless I didn't read into the sarcasm due to the absence of appropriate smileys :oNot this frigging low. Our imports will be a lot more expensive. This will be only good for people at the top of the income ladder.
We import more than we export.
The only good is that now people are buying our currency instead of US bonds. Guess where that's gonna push interest rates?
We are at the mercy of the global appetite for risk.
"No you dont understand, low dollar is good for the economy."
Are you being sarcastic?
I'd rather not see the USD price at all. The only purpose it serves is to make my heart sink when I see the AUD price next to it.
:/ the original price is in USD, we need a reference in case the price changes. Or the Aussie dollar drops more overnight, $211AUD becomes $222 aud, then everyone complains to be OP for wrong price
is it good for NAS? compare to WD RED..
Well… IMHO 7200rpm isn't the best choice for NAS. Others will disagree but the fact is 99% of home users only need 5400rpm which will run cooler, use less power etc and I can easily saturate my 113MB/s gigabit link on all my devices.
Quality-wise should be good though, I imported a bunch of Hitachi Coolspins last year (5400rpm) due to the awesome quality of Hitachi. Since Toshiba are using Hitachi tech it should (in theory) be similar to their 7200rpm drives.
Personally though I think 4/5TB drives are LONG overdue for a price drop if you can wait. Having said that, our AUD is potentially due to for a price drop too :(
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/01/hard-d…
Sadly in this case your opinion is misaligned with the proper data. (read: something with a sample size greater than 2)
No, you're not, though FWIW, I'm not one of those thumbing you down.
There's good reason not to accept Backblaze's reports (on which the Ars story is based) as gospel, but much worse is the way people routinely take their anecdotal experiences with HDDs as a basis for claiming one brand is more or less reliable than another.
Heh… I don't know :/
Click_It said that TOshiba harddrives are reliable, and based on my experience, they weren't… so that's all I said. I'm just one man… Also I felt personally attacked by DracZ, "(read: something with a sample size greater than 2)"
Personally I won't be going for Toshibas (Hitachis), but that's just me…
Edit: I've just looked at that report. Yep people shouldn't listen to me, TOshibas are usually the reliable ones. I've just got the worst of the crop, twice in a row.
Thanks for that "no you're not entitled to your opinion" piece (serious) - Horribly written, but quite enlightening.
Actually I didn't say Toshiba are reliable, I said in theory they should be. I don't own (actually never have) a Toshiba drive so I can't vouch one way or another.
I do own several Hitachi CoolSpins that I went to great trouble importing, they've been on 24/7 for 1 year (8800 hours) and SMART data is immaculate still, touch wood it stays that way for the next few years! Running a lot of redundancy if things were to suddenly go pear shaped.
FWIW I didn't neg anyone either. Opinions are always welcomed including those that may contradict mine, at least that's my view on it.
@inose:
Actually, it's very well written. I do agree that it's not easy to read, especially in this new mobile phone lazy speak era.FWIW I've had every brand of HDD fail over the last 25 years. Not sure what I can buy ;)
Toshiba are some of the leaders in enterprise drives, so please don't talk nonsense. They were once the biggest laptop makers in the world.
They have recently invented a 16TB SSD.I meant like it's got a very good message, but it's hard to read with sentences ending with "are", sentences beginning with "because" etc. Grammatical issues.
Just my two cents, my Toshiba laptop with two 160GB hard drives both died after little over four years of moderate use, not much downloading.
A desktop seagate is still running after 4 years of heavy downloads
Had two hard drives 500gb from seagate die after just two years in my NAS
So quality varies even with the same brand. So do you feel lucky?
Cheap as hard drives.
Cheap as Chips
Computer chips. Bam!
How reliable are these?
Ive got 3 here currently, they work well enough, they are pretty fast (average around 135MB/s) toshiba are simply rebranded Hitachi drives (which are very well known for reliability)
I bought one of these from Amazon a couple of months ago for a Netgear NAS and it's not really doing it for me . Its plenty fast enough but I can't seem to get it to spin down when idle for a set time . I trialled a couple of old dying green seagates while I was deciding what to populate the NAS with and they worked well enough . They would spin down when not in use and take a few seconds to spin up when called upon . If you were in the same room you could hear them spinning up and not much other noise . The Toshiba on the other hand is quite clunky for some reason , even when not in use as they steadfastly refuse to spin down . I'm sure there is a fix somewhere in the world of google I just haven't looked hard enough . FYI I'm running the latest firmware on the NAS and everything seems to work well including torrenting app etc .
Excessive spinning down is a huge problem these days in desktop class drives. The spindown is really aggressive in many drives and cannot be permanently turned off anymore.
These drives can literally wear themselves out in short periods with hundreds of thousanda of cycles. New Seagates are a shocker at this.
OK maybe in a NAS things are slightly different but be careful what you wish for.
Does your drives also spin up one at a time? Every time I need to wait for my NAS to spin up the six drives and takes a good 15-20 seconds!
Nicer for your power supply in the long run.
:/ sudden influx wouldn't be other 80% of the 300W power supply in the readynas
Fair point
Just purchased four for my NAS. Thanks OP.
Nice! Just needed some :D
Got it for $203~ by opting to pay in USD via card, DON'T USE AMAZON'S CURRENCY CONVERSION, Mastercard/Visa's is quite a bit better (assuming your bank doesn't charge too much). Amazon seems to be scamming on the conversion like PayPal does.
HSBC more scam lol, conversion is okay, they they also charge a service fee PLUS an overseas purchase fee.
I always have to choose Amazon, works out to be like 0.5% less or something
Only 5tb…
I am toying with the idea of building a NAS for home
anyone recommend some drives and a enclosure
I will probably go the 2 drive route
Im waiting for another hp microserver gen8 from SE.
You can built your own. Just google it. It's much cheaper (same performance pre-built sells for 1500), and offers better performance, and install softwares you want. And most importantly, you can chose whatever cpu, ram, mb, pc case (better cooling support), cooler and fans you want, NOT those ugly pre-built nas.
I built one last year with small case + i3 4150 + 4GB + ITX mb with 6xSATA3, 2xRJ-45 + 4x 4TB RAID 10 … No problems what so ever.
What OS did you put on it?
Not him but I put server 2012 r2 standard edition on my NAS. Got it free from Dreamspark when I was a student.
linux based, win-serv (others suggested), oracl, free or not … all good, just matter of your needs and choices.
i'm using the freenas 9.x (cant remember the exact no, just go and download newest version). installed onto the 32G usb (thats you boot drive). a little bit tweakings in the bios, os, and router… it's not hard.
Seagate deal from officework still better… 150 each… i should bought 10 of them…
Only USD$10 cheaper since i bought it back in April. It's always around that range anyway. http://imgur.com/gVVVzuG
To use this as a normal external HDD, would a dock like this be fine? http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Lay-Flat-Docking-Station-Supp…
You could, but you'd be better off getting a caddy from MSY / Umart probably as the shipping and conversion most likely kills the Amazon one…
True, just get an enclosure, this way you can movie it around. I have a NexStar hot plug dock, and hardly ever use it :/
How do these compare the Toshiba?
http://www.upgradebay.com//Products/ProductInfo.aspx?rid=35&…
http://www.upgradebay.com//Products/ProductInfo.aspx?rid=35&…
Can I use them for my recently purchased HP Gen 8 Microserver from shopping express? Can I use two of these now and add couple of WD Reds later when they are on sale? Thanks!
Yes u can
went up in price $5 annoyingly
That's weird, I just looked and it has gone DOWN in price by $5 for me.
did you include shipping?
Yeah, and I checked again last night and I was offered a much more expensive shipping option as the lowest possible choice, so it was even more expensive than what you were suggesting ($5 extra) - it seems the shipping cost is fluctuating for me…
Looks at the camelCamelCamel link above.
Date Price
Aug 09, 2015 11:41 PM $144.99
Jul 26, 2015 09:31 AM $139.99
I dont really see any incentive to using amazon or newegg if it is always catered towards american or canadian customers.
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How are you managing to get the disk for $211 AUD? Mine is showing as $219.15
Items: AUD 205.32
Shipping & handling: AUD 13.83
Total before tax: AUD 219.15
Estimated tax to be collected: AUD 0.00
Order total: AUD 219.15Change the shipping, that and the price of the drive has increased 5 dollars since i posted this deal.
DO NOT BUY THE TOSHIBA 7200RPM DRIVES, ESPECIALLY THE 5TB SERIES
Ugh ugh ugh ughUGH
Hot
Noisy
Big failure rate
Did I mention noisy? Jesu christo.
HOTNope.
My NAS LOATHES these disks, why oh why do they have to be cheap, why did I cheap out. 5400's should be cheaper than 7200's :/
AVOID
man it always bugs me when I glance over the title and see the US price first instead of the AUS price.