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8TB External Seagate Backup Desktop Hard Drive $249US + $13.96US Postage @ Amazon

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I set up a 3Camel alert for this baby, so its $50US off I pulled the pin to back up my NAS.
Massive capacity to help protect your files
Easily back up your computer and content from mobile devices with free Mobile Backup App
Automatic Backup software
Transfers files quickly with USB 3.0 connectivity
Use between PC and Mac computers without reformatting

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  • [Deactivated] on 15/06/2015 - 12:29
    +1

    Shipping in title - $13.96USD

  • Jack D Price on 15/06/2015 - 12:31
    +5

    I back up my NAS with another NAS…. though I spose this would work too now :)

    • scrimshaw on 15/06/2015 - 12:38
      +10

      yo dawg, so I herd you like data redundancy….

      • ATangk on 15/06/2015 - 13:42
        +1

        You can never be too careful with technology. Whilst working at a PC repair store, one client had two simultaneous backups on a raid 1 config (mirroring) in a NAS system. Both of these hard drives died at the same time. AFAIK some people also use backups as the only storage for archived files.

        • Lukian on 15/06/2015 - 13:52

          Were the hard drives the same model/batch? :)

        • Maverick-au on 15/06/2015 - 13:58
          +2

          Whilst working at a PC repair store, one client had two simultaneous backups on a raid 1 config (mirroring) in a NAS system.

          RAID is NOT a backup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • ATangk on 15/06/2015 - 14:02
          +1

          @Maverick-au:
          It was a backup of the original files on the PC. poorly worded

  • monarocv8 on 15/06/2015 - 12:36

    Good price, but I've had 3 people come to me this year with faulty external drives, and all of them are Seagates. Maybe just unlucky (or bad drives), but seems strange I haven't seen similar issues with non Seagate external drives…

    • [Deactivated] on 15/06/2015 - 13:23

      Agreed; I've had THREE of those 3T Seagate Goflex devices fail within months of purchase. On one I couldn't prove purchase, so lost out. The other one was replace twice over 18 months.

      But 8T with USB3 sounds just the thing for backing up my NAS.

  • richox on 15/06/2015 - 12:37

    das cheep. barracuda drive inside, 5900rpm?

    • Jabba the Hutt on 15/06/2015 - 12:48

      The reviews I've just been reading suggest it's a Seagate Archive 8TB inside.

      • richox on 15/06/2015 - 12:50

        yes just saw that myself. SMR tech, reviews indicate excellent random read and sequential write are excellent, but random write speeds are bad. perfect usage for backup or for NAS where you are dropping on directly from the internet so the net speed is a major bottleneck anyway. seriously considering grabbing them for my NAS at this price.

        wonder if this new case design is able to handle drive removal in case of warranty returns

        • samfisher5986 on 15/06/2015 - 13:09
          +3

          The question for everyone is, what are you storing on your 8TB drive that needs better performance then this?

          The only thing I can think of is that RAID rebuilds would be slower, but these should only be happening once every 3-5 years anyway.

        • Sike O on 15/06/2015 - 13:25

          Might not be a good idea:

          http://www.storagereview.com/seagate_archive_hdd_review_8tb

          "With the attractively low price per TB that the Seagate Archive 8TB HDD has, it can be difficult to not consider purchasing a set for NAS storage. StorageReview strongly recommends against such usage, as at this time SMR drives are not designed to cope with sustained write behavior. Many contend that NAS shares tend to be very read-focused during normal operation. While that's true, the exception is when a drive fails and a RAID rebuild has to occur. In this case the results clearly show that this implementation of SMR is not a good fit for RAID."

          "At this time Seagate recommends single drive deployments, be it consumer or enterprise."

        • justtoreply on 15/06/2015 - 13:26

          @samfisher5986:

          Well, I'm of the understanding that sequential writes tank to phenominally low speeds quite quickly.

          Due to that but more importantly unproven reliability on technology that involves heating/cooling the platter, I have to say a firm no thankyou to SMR.

        • richox on 15/06/2015 - 13:35

          @justtoreply:

          seems there is still some conjecture around storagereview's testing after real world benchmarking. as an example, my NAS uses software raid (really JBOD w/ parity) and it appears to be very effective in these applications. refer this link for anyone interested.

          http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=39526.0

          so rebuilds of parity or data drives showed good performance - in fact superior to the same operations i've performed on my existing WDReds and seagate consumer NAS drives.

          if these suit, price per TB is unbeatable, especially so if USD/AUD become closer.

        • lplau on 15/06/2015 - 14:20

          @justtoreply: SMR is new tech, but there is nothing wrong with using it.
          Just make sure you get them from different batches so it decreases the chance of multiple failures at the same time.

          RAID provides that flexibility, yes they recommended not to be used but many on the web suggested that recommendation was based on slow rebuild of the raid during failure which isn't ideal.

          People adopted SSD's quite quickly when the drive failure was so high for the 1st gens, don't see why this would be different.

        • Smigit on 15/06/2015 - 14:20

          @Sike O: assuming your NAS is using raid, which I wouldn't say is a given.

        • justtoreply on 15/06/2015 - 14:29

          @richox:

          Perhaps. Requires too much research, and I'm not interested enough to look into it TBH.

          SMR is still a big risk when looking at data security IMHO. I'm not going anywhere near it for a long long time. With how slow seagate is to update bad designs, I doubt even 5 years is long enough to wait before buying into this kind of tech. Which is sad. Because I'd love an 8tb drive.

          @Iplau:

          My opinion is that different batches won't help with this one. I fear a fundamental issue with the concept, not with manufacturing techniques. Yes, there's raid. Personally I no longer use raid, I keep a 1:1 backup on a different drive because I've had it with raid controllers dying, etc. Raid is not all it cracked up to be IMHO.

          On the topic of SSDs, I was an earlyish adopter. But I was very careful with which manufacturers I went with and waited for some reliability data first. And I avoided sandforce controllers like the plague that they were.

        • adante on 15/06/2015 - 14:56

          @samfisher5986:

          edit: just realised I overgeneralised there. I use my nas as a htpc/pvr as well. I guess most people don't (for me it's quite hard to justify the power and equipment draw of multiple machines).

          one legit (but addmittedly rare) use case is digital tv recordings - it is not uncommon for HD recordings can be in the order of 10 gig/hour, and for TV this is sustained write. Factor in multi-channel recording and you might be in for a world of hurt.

          Suitability for RAID probably depends on your specific operational requirements (ie if you can afford to take the array offline for a large period of time or not).

        • samfisher5986 on 15/06/2015 - 16:28

          @adante:

          I copied 8TB of data to my 8TB Archive drive without issues, does that help?

          If you are thinking you will wear out the drive, I don't believe that can happen.

        • adante on 20/06/2015 - 13:47

          @samfisher5986:

          Nah I was more referring to the storagereview article that seemed to suggest for sustained writes, the speed could sometimes drop to near zero for prolonged periods.

          Obviously this is no good for PVR systems which where you are writing continuously (albeit slowly) for potentially hours on end.

          But that said, the other article seems to call into question how accurate this is, so who knows.

      • samlor on 15/06/2015 - 12:52

        Yep, an SMR drive which could be had cheaper on its own in previous/recent deals so you'd be paying roughly $20-$30 for the USB 3 enclosure after currency conversion.

  • outlander on 15/06/2015 - 13:12

    AU$322.59 + AU$18.09 = AU$340.68
    AU$42.60 per GB

    • imahapyboy on 15/06/2015 - 13:18
      +3

      TB or GB?

      • Jack D Price on 15/06/2015 - 13:21
        +6

        What is this? 2001?

        • [Deactivated] on 15/06/2015 - 13:24
          +1

          8GB? More like 1995

      • outlander on 15/06/2015 - 13:29

        TB sorry. Still think in gigabytes for everything.
        rates are from google just to give an indication. US prices make things confusing

    • sween64 on 15/06/2015 - 13:18
      -2

      Based on who's conversion? MasterCard's when using a 28 Degrees CC would be the cheapest.

  • frostman on 15/06/2015 - 13:30

    Is this considered a NAS drive?

    • 32768 on 15/06/2015 - 16:17

      no, it doesn't connect directly/inpedendantly to the network

  • AssociatedKaboda @ Amazon US on 15/06/2015 - 13:47
    +1

    If your after the hard disk itself any not so much the case it's AUD $350 at UMART

    http://www.umart.com.au/umart1/pro/Products-details.phtml?id…

    • msmhw on 15/06/2015 - 14:04

      its still cheaper to buy from amazon and get free encolure!. most of all not dealing with UMART crap. what ever UMART service is I am sure Amazon much better.
      amazon US $265 = ~AU $343.32

      • AssociatedKaboda @ Amazon US on 15/06/2015 - 14:06

        Sure warranty won't suffice if you crack the case open. Probably not worth the $7.78 savings.

        I've had good experiences dealing with UMART myself.

    • lplau on 15/06/2015 - 14:20

      Able to do a deal for them? lol.

  • silent1 on 15/06/2015 - 14:17

    Cheaper at ShoppingExpress for the internal drive. $339 free shipping or $289 with ENJOYIT for eligble customers.

    http://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/seagate-archive-8tb-sa…

    • AssociatedKaboda @ Amazon US on 15/06/2015 - 14:28

      Pretty sure its not free shipping, I've just tried.

      • silent1 on 15/06/2015 - 14:30

        It's free or should be.

        https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/assets/marketing/5211.jpg

        edit: Just tested and it isn't yet. Might need to give them a buzz.

        • AssociatedKaboda @ Amazon US on 15/06/2015 - 14:39

          I've just emailed them.

          Thanks

        • mnta on 15/06/2015 - 14:48

          T&C in the picture said "Exclude Internal Hard drives"… maybe that's why? I wish they do free shipping for internal drives as well, want a 8TB to sort out storage issue.

        • silent1 on 15/06/2015 - 14:49

          @mnta:

          Ah, didn't check carefully enough.

        • AssociatedKaboda @ Amazon US on 15/06/2015 - 15:16

          @mnta:

          Bought this when they had a promotion maybe 3 weeks back at $309 was free shipping then. Yeah o well they'll probably just email me pointing out the T&C

  • liuzhen on 15/06/2015 - 14:47

    Are these drives suitable for copying my entire NAS to and storing in an alternate location?
    How long would it take to write 6tb?

    I bought my NAS in Feb 2013 (with 5x3tb WD reds in it) and currently only have one of those 3tb drives as an Unraid parity drive. The other 4 are data drives.
    Am worried one or many of my drive(s) will fail soon.

    • bleugh on 15/06/2015 - 15:04
      +1

      Go For it.
      Just connect, leave it on for a couple of nights and you're good to go

      at USB 2.0 speeds (20 Meg / S) you're looking at 3.5 days

      at USB 3.0 speeds you'd be maybe 24 hours or so

      • sonicentropy on 15/06/2015 - 16:52
        +1

        That's what I figured It will take around 4 days to get a copy
        1.5 days if use a PC and ROBOCOPY

  • congo on 15/06/2015 - 15:36

    Get this or wait for 10TB to go on sale…?

    • clubhonda on 17/06/2015 - 19:49

      10 tbs now available?

  • Storm on 15/06/2015 - 17:35

    I was thinking of a 6 or 8TB recently, but bought a 3tb Seagate from JB Hi-Fi for $127 (normally $150 but the sales guy was very helpful).

    I figure a couple of 3tb drives may be as costly as one 8tb drive, but there is more redundancy/safety. Hopefully :)

  • ElectroFoX on 15/06/2015 - 18:39

    Any suggestions for ebay seller from USA to have it alongside the 20% ebay's discount?

  • clubhonda on 17/06/2015 - 19:49

    Finally! Thanks!! Pulled the trigger and very happy with the purchase :) :)

  • Quotationz on 05/07/2015 - 14:19

    Also see the 5TB version. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J0O5R2I/ref=ox_sc_act_ti… $134.99 USD + $13 delivery

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