Hyundai, Holden or Honda

Lcoolc on 16/05/2015 - 10:32

Well Guys

im looking to buy a new car and with my budjet this is i ve found. ( Base models )

Mitsubishi mirage – 16000
Hyundai accent – 18500
Mitsubishi Lancer – 20000
Nissan Pulsar - 20500
Holden cruze – 21000
Holden Barina – 22000
Suzuki s cross – 22000
Ford eko sport – 22000
Hyundai elantra – 22500
Honda city - 22000
Toyota Yaris - 23500

after scratching my head for while i decided to reduce the list and

Hyundai accent – 18500
Holden cruze – 21000
Hyundai elantra – 22500
Honda city - 22000

any experience with this cars ?

Hyundai has 0% interest + 5 years unlimited km warranty + capped price services
Holden 3 years or 100K + Capped price
Honda 5 years or 140K + 5 years capped price ?

any suggestions ?

Automotive

Comments

  • trex on 16/05/2015 - 10:36
    +8

    Whooa.. 0% interest? In terms of brand and quality, I trust Honda the most but Hyundai is looking good with its promo.

    • shamid202 on 17/05/2015 - 18:20
      +3

      Go for Mazda 3, every review shows it has the best driving/handling experience + features are really comparable.
      Fuel Efficiency is another thing with Mazda

    • QuickToThePointless on 18/05/2015 - 00:09
      +5

      Remember to check under the bonut things

  • Vieira4 on 16/05/2015 - 10:56
    +8

    Don't go near a cruze.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kal73P25zAE

    • [Deactivated] on 16/05/2015 - 16:32
      +3

      I recall Top Gear listed the Chevy Cruze in their list of "The Worst Cars You Can Buy, Right Now". Along with the Mitz. Mirage which I can't agree more.
      Pretty bad acceptance of the Cruze in Europe they said. Basic and crude.

      I really like Hyundai's. Their cheaply made, but tough and not much goes wrong with them I've found.

    • beesa888 on 19/05/2015 - 01:41

      my mate had a new SRI V cruz which had catastrophic engine failure which happened just out of warranty period. Holden wanted him to fork out $12,000 to replace it…

  • CyberMurning on 16/05/2015 - 11:11
    -2

    Kia… Longest warranty
    Holden Ford will bankrupt soon

    • spackbace on 16/05/2015 - 12:23
      +7

      Bankrupt? No and laughable

      Just not locally made, will be import only like any of the other brands on the list.

    • edgar28 on 16/05/2015 - 23:29
      -2

      Kia? do more research

      best car would be Honda Hyundai (elantra) then holden
      But u paying entry level vs "better" level for elantra

      but in terms of service , hyundai Honda Holden
      Honda can be very expensive to service

      • kryptoz on 18/05/2015 - 01:02

        I dispute what you say about the Honda — any aftermarket options are stupidly expensive if you buy them through the dealer/service network, but the servicing is no worse than Toyota or Mazda. Mind you, you can always find a better servicing deal by shopping around outside that, as long as your log book is up to date, your warranty is fine, despite what the dealerships suggest.

        My Honda has had a few electrical problems over ~5 years, but overall it's been reliable and economical enough, my main complaint is that whilst the interior finish is first class, Honda designers have not a single clue when it comes to layout and usability of the car, countless oddly placed gaps, uselessly tiny compartments and features like child anchor points that block other seats from being used.

        I haven't owned a Hyundai, but it will be very high on the list for my next car, if it has all the right bits in all the right places (unlike Hondas).

        • Jackson on 19/05/2015 - 21:34

          Mate I agree with you. Honda's are reliable but the emphasis is on style over utility and the parts are crazy, but especially larger parts from the manufacturer.

          I have a Hyundai and have put 200000kms on it without it skipping a beat. Parts are abundant and relatively cheap because there are countless aftermarket parts available and they are not exotic at all, he and if you are really on a budget hit the wreckers. As reliable as any Toyota I know anyone has owned (including my toyota)

          I have had a Holden, and I can't recommend them to anyone except a weekend driver who's a petrol head who likes to do his own work. Every part in that thing is made to wear out, and the parts are cheap but the labour will get you. If it's the car you are taking to work each day roadside assist is a must. Just count how many of these you see broken down, and ask any nrma mechanic and they will tell you. I had a commo but I would trust anything they make, the commo engine is American anyway and the crap they are brining in from their Darwin acquisition is overpriced

  • Bonsaichop on 16/05/2015 - 11:47
    +6

    Would have thought a true Ozbargainer would not buy a new car, at least a demo.

    The moment you drive your new car off the lot you've already lost thousands in depreciation, probably more than the interest you would end up paying! They're a liability not an asset, as such you need to see your money spent on them the same way. Get a factory demo, or low km used with factory warranty still on there and save your money.

    • Cheeper on 16/05/2015 - 12:35
      +1

      A hard core ozbargainer gets new cars at very special prices.. :-) He also gets 12mths rego/ctp, new tyres, brakes, battery, etc.. and full factory warranty… Price also includes drive away… no used car transfer fee to add the the cost. Usually gets a higher trade in with new too.
      Look at the whole picture, not just the headline..

      • hahaboy on 17/05/2015 - 11:04
        +3

        A hard core ozbargainer buys a second hand car.

        • Cheeper on 17/05/2015 - 12:03
          +3

          Rubbish…

        • TheOneWhoKnocks on 17/05/2015 - 16:04
          +5

          A hard core OzBargainer doesn't buy cars at all and relies on cheap Woolworths Opal deals.

    • edgar28 on 16/05/2015 - 23:31
      +2

      a demo is no longer a demo in many cases, it's abused to a second hand level.
      I still remember olden days a demo must not go over 3000 km

      now the demo is so bad (10k km)

      just bargain the new car price into demo price (can be done)

      • spackbace on 17/05/2015 - 00:18

        Demo is still 3000km at many dealerships. Some are advertised as 'factory demo' when in fact they're press test cars etc and will have up to 10k on the clock. These are advertised as used cars, and don't have any of the benefits of buying genuine demo cars or brand new

      • Cheeper on 17/05/2015 - 12:05

        Demos are not thrashed test drive vehicles always.
        Dealers are allowed a quota of demo regd vehicles per year and the dealers take advantage of this to sell much cheaper.

    • Ughhh on 17/05/2015 - 18:47
      +2

      Basically anything (physical) you buy depreciates (except for property), like phones, clothes, furniture, computer and the 4k TV you own. Once you walk out of the store, your phone, your TV etc is no longer worth what you paid (unless you got it super cheap). So instead of losing thousands of dollars on new phones, new clothes and such, buy everything secondhand?

      If you got a good price on a brand new car, you can afford it (don't need a load) and unless you plan on changing cars every few years, I don't see what the problem is with a new car. Who in the world thinks a car appreciates? A driving experience is more than just getting you from A to B and price.

    • Gorodemon on 18/05/2015 - 11:35

      A true OZBargainer would drive a Falcodore on Gas and pay the gas usage with ING Paywave to get 2% rebate.

    • Faulty on 10/08/2015 - 00:16

      A true OzBargainer does not buy cars, new or used. Rather he/she buys eneloops from Dick Smith deals!

      • spackbace on 10/08/2015 - 10:19
        +1

        Wow a comment 3 months after the original comment was made!

  • coolc on 16/05/2015 - 11:50
    +3

    Understand the depreciation. The thing is I never owned a brand new car so really love to own one.

    • Bonsaichop on 16/05/2015 - 12:00
      +5

      But the question you need to ask yourself is having the status of 'new', is it really worth it? Eventually you'll drive it, passed what is new, and the moment you get a ding from some other careless driver in a carpark the love affair will be over.

      The novelty of 'new' is finite, and a near new car will still bring you the same euphoria with extra $$ in your pocket.

  • ShamelessBargains on 16/05/2015 - 12:19
    +8

    Save a bit more money and consider a Mazda 3 or a Toyota Corolla.

    There's nothing wrong with the cars you have listed, its just that the above two are a lot better and there's a reason they are top 2 in the small car category.

    Better driving experience, comfort level, resale value for the Mazda 3 and Corolla.

    You should consider a demonstrator or a car that is less than 2 years old.

    No point buying brand new when you lose a few thousand driving it off the showroom floor.

    • spackbace on 16/05/2015 - 12:25
      +2

      Better driving experience, comfort level, resale value for the Mazda 3 and Corolla.

      Have you driven either of them? Pretty much what you've said is in the same league as people saying the new Hilux is unbreakable because of memories of 10yo ones. The thought that the Mazda or the Toyota are the best driving experience is definitely a placebo effect. For the price they offer nothing more than the competition, and the Mazda 3 has a terrible problem with road noise - totally ruining the 'driving experience'.

      • ShamelessBargains on 16/05/2015 - 17:35

        Mazda 3 is pretty gutless too and the Corolla has a funny tiptronic transmission as well. No car is perfect. i30 isn't a bad choice either

    • Cheeper on 17/05/2015 - 12:29
      -5

      "No point buying brand new when you lose a few thousand driving it off the showroom floor."

      Some facts for you to consider when you are old enough to buy your first car…

      That 2 y/o used car you buy from your friendly dealer will depreciate from it's highly inflated maximum retail price to "wholesale" value as you drive it away.
      You will then go and pay the transfer fee as well. With that you will have worn tyres, most likely not 12 mths rego, and many other items that are on their way out.
      You will also discover at a later date why the car was ontraded … accident damage, unfixable quirks.. etc..

      Most people buy cars on impulse and they usually find out later on that their bargain used car was that close to new price they dont want to know about it. They have no idea that they have been royaly screwed over… :-(

      The games played with top loading trade ins suck in many also. That heap you are driving is not worth $5000 to anyone but the dealer gave you that. Ever wondered why? Must be because he really liked you… lolll.

      Used cars can be a bargain, I have scored many times with buying used and selling a few years later at the same price or more but very few people have the skill to do that or even know where to do it.

      Car salesmen treat the people who walk through their doors like total dropkicks because 9 out of 10 are just that. They are usually "sold" a car and they think they bought it.
      Get someone to explain that part …

      • ShamelessBargains on 17/05/2015 - 13:28
        +1

        Buying a car isn't an investment either mate. It's a depreciating asset; the longer you have it, the less it will be worth unless it becomes a collectors item.

        Always good to do your research before buying a new/used car to make sure you aren't getting screwed over.

      • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 18/05/2015 - 07:00
        +1

        A hard core ozbargainer gets 2-3 year old used cars at very special prices.. :-) He also gets 12mths rego/ctp, near new/new tyres, brakes, battery, etc.. and remainder of factory warranty and mandatory dealer warranty… Price also includes drive away… no used car transfer fee to add the the cost. Usually the majority of the depreciation has occurred to the first owner and you buy it a lot cheaper than new!
        Look at the whole picture, not just the headline..

  • spackbace on 16/05/2015 - 12:29
    +16

    Op, you've narrowed it down to 4… Drive them and then work it out! Not until you drive a vehicle will you know what you like/dont like.

    Drive them all on the 1 day, head to head.

    Then ask yourself stupid things like:

    • Does the bluetooth pair in easily, if at all
    • do i like the gearbox (some people don't like CVT compared to standard
    • Is the seat comfortable for me? Is there enough legroom
    • Can I use the stereo, is it user friendly?
    • Does any model have more features than the rest?

    I'm a salesman for 1 of them, but I'm not gonna sit here and preach. There is no way of shortlisting a car without driving it first. Well done on narrowing it down to the 4 (you have no idea how many people drive 10+ cars). Now give them a good drive and see what you think. Then look at the money side of things, but given they're all within each other, it should come down to how you feel when you drive it!

    • coolc on 16/05/2015 - 15:29

      Thanx for the advice. Drove Accent and Elantra today. Well design wise i like Elantra. extra 4k for the look + few extras… hard to choose.

      Cruze is not an option as it has many bad reviews all over the net.

      • spackbace on 16/05/2015 - 15:44

        It does have bad reviews yes, but so do your other options and many across the Hyundai brand in particular.

        The problem with reviews on the Cruze are based on earlier models, whereas newer models have had a lot more local fine tuning, and haven't just been imported then sold.

        Tell you what, I challenge you to sit in a Cruze, in a noisy area, and tell me that's not the quietest car you've sat in out of the choices! Better yet, drive it and you'll see :)

        Just don't base things off some bad reviews from earlier models, when you're not searching bad reviews of the other cars you're looking at

        • coolc on 16/05/2015 - 15:47

          As a salesperson in auto field what is your say about Hyundai late models…

          I ll drive a cruze and city before make a decision but im more biased towards hyundai…

        • spackbace on 16/05/2015 - 16:27

          @coolc:

          Honestly I haven't driven either, only the i20/i30 so can't comment

        • Satoria on 28/05/2015 - 16:04

          You can easily get a top of the line automatic Cruze SRI-V 2014 or 2015 model for less than $25,000, and in some cases less than $22,000. These are often dealer used and have a few thousand km on them. Look on carsales.com.au. They're absolute bargains. http://www.carsales.com.au/cars/results?cpw=1&sortby=TopDeal…

          Compare the features of a 2014/2015 Cruze SRI-V with those of any other models you're looking at. They're well ahead of the competition in almost every way.

      • antzz on 17/05/2015 - 01:31

        Own yaris, city and have cruze provided for company pool car before. City has lots of feature and very stylish. Cruze is very quite and comfortable. I was driving the diesel version so lots of power. The cruze we are provided is 2013 version and never had a maintenance problem. Yaris is the bottom of the three with plastic look and low power. If I have to choose with the money I would buy city purely because better resale value. If resale value is the same I think I will choose cruze.

        • [Deactivated] on 17/05/2015 - 09:06
          +2

          I got an Aussie assembled Cruze 2 years ago and in that time I haven't had any problems or complaints, it's been a good car to drive.

  • 2jzzzz on 16/05/2015 - 12:33
    +2

    I got my brand new Yaris on the road, drive away for $16000 and it isn't the base. Is a 4 door. manual with metallic paint, floor mats and 3 free services.

    • coolc on 16/05/2015 - 15:27

      That is a good deal. Where did you buy that ?

      • 2jzzzz on 16/05/2015 - 15:55

        That was from Frankston Toyota.

        • coolc on 16/05/2015 - 15:55

          2014 or 2015

      • elektron on 18/05/2015 - 10:31

        Where on earth did you get the quote of 23.5K for a base Yaris?? This is an absolutely ridiculous price, especially when you can currently buy a 2015 Corolla Ascent Sport Hatch with these features (over an already well equipped base Corolla) for under $24k:

        • 6.1" LCD touch screen display audio
        • Reverse camera with fixed guide lines
        • 16" Alloy Wheels
        • Premium 3-spoke Steering Wheel
        • Chrome accented grille & fog lamps
  • Cheeper on 16/05/2015 - 12:37
    +2

    Did see new mitsubishi lancers (new or low k demo) for $16-$17k +orc … A lot of car for the $.
    Kia Cerato would be the only other one I would consider in a small car.

    • This Guy on 17/05/2015 - 01:37
      +1

      Drive a Lancer and you'll see why.

      Cerato's cut costs in some areas that you won't notice until later down the track. Don't get a manual…

  • [Deactivated] on 16/05/2015 - 12:48
    +2

    Honda Jazz hands down, especially over the Toyota Yaris.

    • This Guy on 17/05/2015 - 01:39

      Extremely versatile cabin. Very short noise so great for zipping around in the city.

  • Inshinshishimop on 16/05/2015 - 15:09
    +2

    If I would benefit from the 0% interest then I would go for the Hyundai, if not then Honda

  • sjp1808 on 16/05/2015 - 16:08
    +1

    Don't necessarily be hooked by the low interest rates. Some dealerships charge excessive fees within the loan in order to compensate.

    • Cheeper on 17/05/2015 - 12:32

      and higher purchase price and lower trade in. They find ways to milk the cow..

  • coolc on 16/05/2015 - 16:19

    $399 establishment fee
    $ 5 per month

    0 %

    1% comparison they advertise. Not bad for my knowledge

    • MondaySleeper on 17/05/2015 - 08:32

      Just wondering where you got this 0 % from? I couldnt find it on their website? Would you mind sharing the details please?

      • coolc on 17/05/2015 - 23:53

        1% comparison. It is in their website

  • gomertose on 16/05/2015 - 16:30
    +22

    "H" is your favourite letter?

  • Magpye on 16/05/2015 - 17:02
    +2

    FWIW, have had two (older) Hyundais Elantras, and not a word of complaint. Mechanically as sound as any of the Toyotas I've had, and have tended towards the lower fuel consumption, which is always a bonus.

  • Islund on 16/05/2015 - 18:11
    -1

    The Lancer is the answer

    • gimli on 16/05/2015 - 18:26

      Panzer

  • MUMMY85 on 16/05/2015 - 21:01
    -2

    Honda

  • djones145 on 16/05/2015 - 21:12

    I have a honda city around 3 years old. Can't complain, nice car, lots of features of a more expensive Honda, like Bluetooth built in, think new one has a 7 inch screen. For the city it's fine, driving highways not as good, lack a bit of power, but for 20k and mainly a city/ station car it's good

  • [Deactivated] on 16/05/2015 - 21:35

    My friend has a really old Accent (2001), manual… Has never had a problem with it.

  • geebee on 16/05/2015 - 21:36
    +2

    Since this is ozbargain what about the i20 the 3 door is only $12.990 drive away, lower power than the accent but better rear visability and fuel consumption.

    The most unreliable brand of cars I have owned is Honda.

    • spackbace on 16/05/2015 - 22:17

      If it was i20 size I would've said Suzuki Swift without question, but it's kinda obvious that OP wants a sedan…

  • [Deactivated] on 16/05/2015 - 21:55
    +4

    Dude check out Mazda 3.. I bought it last year.. very happy with it..
    only requires servicing once a year.. low maintenance and good fuel average..

  • AMLagonda on 16/05/2015 - 22:43
    -1

    Does it really make a difference, on paper, in what car he wants?

    Really it comes down to a feeling and personal attraction because cars are really all the same nowadays.

    No point in saying X is better than Y, that's just a personal preference.

    • AMLagonda on 18/05/2015 - 11:56

      The Neggers always want their say but dont say it funny!

  • This Guy on 17/05/2015 - 02:43

    Barina's are on sale at the moment.

    Holden Barina CD Hatch is $15k drive away at the moment.
    Well equpt and 3.5k to 7.5k cheaper than your other options.

    Holden Barina Sparks are $14k drive away (A shorter Barina with a smaller motor).
    Similar size to the Mirage.

    Barina X's are around $16.5 drive away, with sat nav touch screen, alloy's, a sun roof and fog lights and a nicer motor.

    While there are plenty of nice cars out there, but if I wanted to buy this weekend I'd buy a Barina X. Next week there should be different deals so my advice would be different. You would still need to add the cost of your insurance on top.

    All cars in this price range should be very well equipped (blue tooth, cruise control, USB/MP3). Many will have a touch screen. When you test drive I suggest you play around with these features and see if you are happy with how they work.

    New generation tiny motors can be surprisingly fun. Certain Mirages, Peugeot 208's/308's and Fiat 500's love to rev to red line. Many of these cars are 950-1100kg, making them fun around corners too.

    Don't forget on-road costs. You’re looking at around $600 just in stamp duty. You still need rego and comprehensive insurance.

    Most base models go on sale at least once a year. Many will be "drive away no more to pay", meaning that on top of the discount you save another grand on rego and stamp duty. But this advice is useless if you can't wait.

    tl;dr: if you like a particular model, check which month they went on sale last year and wait if you can.

  • porsche26c on 17/05/2015 - 06:59

    go the elantra - my bro got one and they are excellent - everything included for 22k.
    however this price point may also get you a vw golf polo.

  • snajper on 17/05/2015 - 07:09
    +3

    Dude looking at the price range and type of the car there are few to be considered.

    I30 for around $20k drive away.. great quality car with excellent warranty. There is a special now on.
    Mazda 3 best of the bunch for about $23k. Start stop..good performance, fuel and resale value

    Corolla for around $22-23k.. reliable good looking and awesome resale value… as with every Toyota good quality but not very exiting car.
    Elantra is also ok and nowoffers free leather interior etc….

    Best deal ATM moment worth considering is Nissan Altima… large family car with good equipment levels and 2.5l engine can be purchased for $24 save $6-7k. 2013-14 platted…but brand new

    Having just sold my Honda I would not be carried away with "Honda quality" as Honda has lost the plot 10 years ago..
    Mitsubishi and Nissan have also gone weird in the last 10 years…

    Test drive each one and see what you like……buying the cheapest car now may be the most expensive option in the long run.

    For example $23k Mazda will be worth $16k in 3 years time costing you 7k.
    $16k mirage might be worth only $6-7k in 3 years time… costing you 10k..

  • anonymous01 on 17/05/2015 - 07:18
    -7

    Stay away from Hyundai. If you want a reliable car without forking out $$ for European brands, I would go with Toyota, Honda, Mazda or Subaru.

    • ChrisLevo on 17/05/2015 - 08:16
      +5

      What do you base that on?

      Reliability surveys world-wide put Hyundai at the top, or very close to it.

      • anonymous01 on 17/05/2015 - 21:44
        -3

        Hi ChrisLevo, I will not go into the nature of my work but I am not just saying it without any reason.. While it may be true that some of the high end models might be much better for Hyundai, Mitsubishi (i.e. EVO), Nissan (GTR's) etc, an average car is not as reliable as those I mentioned.

    • [Deactivated] on 17/05/2015 - 10:57
      +1

      I disagree having bought Hyundai for my last two cars, and having a lot of car restoration experience.
      Hyundai have, I think, cut a lot of corners, used cheap plastic a lot etc, but they have been very smart with designing cheaply, but maintained solid systems throughout. I'd prefer a Toyota honestly but hyundais like Excel and Getz were reliable, cheap and very cheap to run. Previous car was a Subaru Outback, dumbest buy I ever made. In my opinion, they (subaru) design like irresponsible children too often, costing me dearly.
      I will probably go Hyundai next car as well.

  • dennisc on 17/05/2015 - 07:50

    According to my local Hyundai dealer, Kia and Hyundai are identical. Kia has 7 year warranty and the dealer will extend it by a further 2 years. That means you can plan your motoring expenditure for 9 years! Quality may not be up to Mazda or Corolla, but there are swings and roundabouts.

    • [Deactivated] on 17/05/2015 - 11:18

      A car salesman told me Hyundai took over/bought Kia, so since maybe 2007'ish Kia quality has been controlled by Hyundai. Dont know if that is hard fact, but was noticed by him seeing cars everyday.

      • bobz79 on 17/05/2015 - 13:43

        during the Asian financial crisis, Kia declared bankruptcy in 1997; and in 1998, Hyundai Motor Company acquired 51% of the company

        • [Deactivated] on 17/05/2015 - 14:59

          Thanks bobz, Was only 10 years off, and I guess 51% gave Hyundai controlling share.
          I'm about to buy a 1977 toyota coaster bus tommorow to travel in, so my judgement on vehicles is a bit of a worry at the moment.

  • deepdag on 17/05/2015 - 08:41
    +1

    I've both Honda & Hyundai in my family. I need to use Getz for work & Mrs uses Honda. After 8.5 years of Honda Civic & 6 years of Getz, my Civic is any day preferable with respect to reliability, drive, quality & comfort. With my Getz, Stereo broke just after my 5 years warranty & to replace it would cost more than $350 from Hyundai. Mind you, we have 135k km on Honda & just 70k km on Hyundai but Honda is still going good.

    • [Deactivated] on 17/05/2015 - 11:10
      +3

      Honda v's Hyundai
      You might add the original cost of these two cars for comparison, as that's the primary reason we don't all drive Veyrons.
      That and the fact that only 450 Bugatti Veyrons were made over the decade.

  • rickxs on 17/05/2015 - 09:49
    +1

    Holden LMAO —-Kia cerato 7 yr warranty CPS 6 spd auto or sister Elantra

    • spackbace on 17/05/2015 - 10:51
      -2

      Lol don't buy a car because of a warranty

      • muncan on 17/05/2015 - 10:52

        Lol don't buy a car, take the bus

  • peterw1 on 17/05/2015 - 11:10
    -1

    I would suggest if you need finance to get your car, better off sticking with public transport or a pushy. Once you have saved enough buy your car. If you really want new use http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/search?q=(Price=range[..20000])%26(SiloType=[Brand%20new%20cars%20available])%26AdsWith=[Special%20Offers] as a starting point for costs. Else consider buying a used ex government vehicle via you state ie. http://www.manheim.com.au/passenger-vehicles/auction-catalog….

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